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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Man, I find it hard to trust the government in their society. At least the Kirihara and Kuroki siblings have allies on their side. Feels like there's no even safe place to hide for them. There's quite a bit of gun battle and violence too this episode, showing the dangerous environment of their world. Too much crazy shit going on this episode. |
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| What looks like the usual trance of Night Head Genesis, 2041 is turning out to be a similar-yet-different case in and of itself. Rebels who believe spiritual powers exist vs. the government who denies everything to control power with their propaganda, the world is neither safe where they all go. All that the Kirihara brothers Naoya and Naoki knows that this fact has been propagated from their memories, even if that much time has passed. The SWE is moving right along with the Kuroki brohers Takuya and Yuya, but decimating their targets. The kid Masayuki with literate mind control over some SWE agents to save his mom out of the SWE's HQ hellhole, but the Kuroki brothers, now fused with psychic powers, begin to feel the same way as Naoya of headaches linked to these psychics. What an action-packed episode though. With the world as distraught such as this, it's gonna take a lot of effort to recuperate and serve their roles in one way or another. |
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| Beginning of the episode thoughts. Im felling old for remembering Anemone when Emily appeared. The prison dsiplay part is horrible to see, but would be funny to see on the transgression part, just "Weeb". So they kept a highly dangerous psychic without anesthetics, sound like a plan. The only dubious part was kidnap the mother. For whatever reason. |
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| Imagine being a kid, and all of a sudden the cops come breaking through your door because you drew a man with a pointed hat |
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| A nicely done episode! The fight scenes were wonderful in sound and flash. It was good to see Junior Doom round up some bodies and go on a rampage. Meanwhile the bad guys are awakening some more psychic soldiers to go forth and smash things. Our younger MC only said "Brother" about half a dozen times so that is a plus also. Slut Puppy just wandered around in shorts and a V neck being mysteriously evil. And she did manage to make the last solder awaken his psychic ability so he can get himself killed later on (hopefully). Good stuff! |
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| w0w! the last part of this episode was very good huh...looks like almost all of them powers are slowly awakening already!? damn! Kimie's erotic walking turns me on! - by the way/come to think about it, if Kimie would be blonde, she would exactly look like adult Hana Midorikawa from Prison School! lolz 5/5. |
matias067Aug 5, 2021 2:21 PM
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| "Usoda!!" : very strong word in anime industry. --- Although I don't want to be a friend of her, Kimie is the most impressive character for now. |
| man shit's really fucked up here. even a KID is being put on a "wrongin" display for drawing something from her imagination |
| Is this anime is supposed to be some sort of social commentary where is like society heading or something? Also, unhinged kid is casually murdering 20+ agents and everyone be like "don't shoot the kid". I wonder when they draw the line, and start realising, that someone is too far gone and deserves a bullet. That's some bullshit right there. |
PiromyslAug 5, 2021 5:31 PM
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| The last episode was slightly bad, but this one was more fun. I think I like it more when this anime is not trying to follow the original story at all. I like the way this anime increased Masayuki's powers. Hope he gets more screen time. He's interesting! Takuya loses consciousness, and two different characters grow the same powers as him. Are those related? Does that mean those powers will disappear when Takuya awakens? (lol Probably no.) Shouko here is Masayuki's mother's friend. That is very interesting! The timeline is a mess, and I want to know what is going on. Kirihara brothers are with the resistance. I wonder if the members will gain powers too. I hope this anime expands more on how people get their powers since there are a lot more power users here. I am wondering if this government organisation is actually ARC. BTW, it was funny when the protagonists just took the mum away. haha |
| So, them rebels only ended up rescuing the kid's mom. |
| The first couple eps were at least interesting, but any sense of mystery/intrigue has been bludgeoned with heavy-handed, self-aware commentary on its own techno-dystopia, something better executed and imagined in other works imo. From the miracle man to this kid, the instances of anime logic are quickly accumulating lol and it's getting to be a mess. The girl is the only character that interests me right now.. |
FreezePeach said: cedwino said: This series is interesting. The story and animation quality are fine. But for a reason I really dislike the kid. I was unable to sympathize with that character even if it could be characterized as a victim of the circumstances. The kid killed 3 or 4 people in the previous episode and did his best to kill a few more unrelated bystanders to avenge a dog. Then he went berserk and killed like 30 more because his mommy wasn't in the same room. I'd say the guy is unlikable. And the most amusing moment was the younger brother's "he is just like us, he just wants to be with his mommy, let's help him" as if psychics were some one happy family and psychic naturally is free to just kill "normal" people like bugs. The boy is a freaking criminal first, his initial crime was completely unjustified by any misdeeds of the government. If he kills 30 people to see his mother what can he do if he is hungry or bored? This is just weird. They tried to make the boy a victim but he is not. He was actively and intentionally using his ability to brutally murder defenseless and mostly innocent people. I wouldn't say any of the people he killed were innocent except the few high school kids, excluding the ringleader of the black magic plan who personally killed the dog. The adult agents can all very reasonably be argued to be armed collaborationist enforcers of a dystopic dictatorship and totalitarian police state and absolutely deserving of merciless armed resistance from irate citizenry and any general insurgent faction in response to their own actions over the country they govern. Rebels/insurgents/militants/terrorists killing government soldiers/police/security forces isn't really a murder of innocent people. It's civil unrest or a full-blown civil conflict/civil war at that point (depending on scale). |
FreezePeach said: "any of the people he killed were innocent except the few high school kids" - oh, it's ok then, just a few innocent kids, the one who didn't kill a few kids for no reason in their childhood should throw the first stone. This is like someone accusing a random person of killing 1,000 people, someone fact-checking the assertion and pointing out that no, they in fact killed seven people rather than 1,000, and then the first person responding indignantly with a degree of feigned outrage saying "Oh, so it's alright to kill seven people?!" That's not the point. The point is that the initial charge and statement is inaccurate. A person doing one thing you consider bad doesn't mean they should be accused of everything else under the sun just to paint them as a more nefarious actor, because concern for the facts and details of the matter should somehow go out the window. Also, even pertaining to the actually innocent kids in question, he quite obviously didn't kill them for "no reason" as the reason was clearly laid out in the plot of the episode - their association with the black magic circle plan of the thug who killed his dog. It was revenge and they were labeled guilty by association. FreezePeach said: And indeed the one who killed the dog had it coming, totally justified murder, no issue whatsoever. Like anything else, whether said person "had it coming" or not in that instance is a matter of a point of view. I would say they did and would certainly feel zero sympathy or remorse if a person who intentionally attacked and hurt/killed someone or something I cared about received a forceful retribution. If I was the girl's mother, I would feel angered and distraught. If I were the kid with the killed pet, I would seek vengeance as well. All a matter of which perspective and which person's situation or side you'd find yourself in. And for the third party, the state authority, I would want the law enforced to prevent murder (and there should also be laws in place against needless animal cruelty), but from the few episodes seen so far, it's easy to glean that this state is more interested in forcing their brainwashing narrative down the throats of its citizens at gunpoint than any impartial concern for some concept of justice. FreezePeach said: See, if you add "except" like that your "wouldn't say any of the people he killed were innocent" becomes completely pointless. No, it absolutely does not, because getting the details of any individual case or situation correct and straight absolutely still matter. I can say that I hold murder to be a crime which should be punishable by law, while not wanting the murderer who killed two people to be charged with the deaths of a million "just because" or not wanting someone who committed murder to also be charged with kidnapping, rape, torture, arson, and grand theft auto just to tack on baseless charges. Both positions are not contradictory and can be held simultaneously. FreezePeach said: "The adult agents can all very reasonably be argued to be armed collaborationist enforcers" - at this point the kid was already a criminal who murdered multiple innocent kids (yes, including the notorious dog killer). He presents clear danger for ordinary people and any functioning society, democratic or not, would want armed law enforcers to deal with him. He wasn't fighting tyranny, he was murdering people because mommy wasn't there. (And what the genius MC brothers did in this situation - they grabbed the mommy and run away. How much dumber they could possibly be?) "It's civil unrest or a full-blown civil conflict/civil war at that point (depending on scale)" - it is not, this is completely ridiculous. The kid doesn't have any ideals, he doesn't fight oppression and not participates in civil war, he just plain murders people because he can. The dog killer girl obviously isn't one of the "innocent kids" as should be self-evident. Any such designation of innocence is removed by virtue of her own actions. My point is that this situation cannot obtusely be looked at as if it exists in a vacuum. The kid's motivations don't change the fact that all the armed security forces of a dystopian totalitarian dictatorship he killed are far from innocent people. They're the armed enforcers of the state monopoly of violence over its citizenry. For this reason, even terrorist attacks targeting soldiers or police/general security forces need to be viewed differently, as they often are in the real world, than those targeting actually genuinely innocent civilians. A government agent or officer with a firearm is a combatant, not an unarmed civilian shopping for cereal. I point out and highlight the nature of the government, but ultimately it doesn't actually matter if it's a liberal-capitalist "democratic" government or a Marxian socialist one or a fascist or monarchial or theocratic one, or the kind of vague technocratic and militant atheistic one we see portrayed in this series. A person resisting the actions of armed enforcers of any state/governmental authority is a different phenomenon than killing random civilians for money or pleasure. |
WatchTillTandavaAug 12, 2021 7:52 PM
FreezePeach said: "This is like someone accusing a random person of killing 1,000 people, someone fact-checking the assertion" - no it is not. It is like someone claiming "I wouldn't say any of the people he killed were innocent except", someone else pointing out how f***ed up and ridiculous this claim is and then the first person writing a wall of text trying to defend his obviously ridiculous original statement. Yes, and I stand by that statement 100%. I find it humorous that in the same post in a message intended for another user you write "Plenty of people don't share your opinion, it seems to be rather simple idea to comprehend." Well, heed your own advice to others. I obviously don't share your opinion or view on this subject at all and have stated why clearly and explicitly. That my answer is just derided as a "wall of text" - a few paragraphs which required minutes to type up, means you're not seriously interested in countering in any way any point of view which contradicts your own or answering anything; only hurling insults and personal attacks, like the one you finish your response to me off with. FreezePeach said: "The dog killer girl obviously isn't one of the "innocent kids" as should be self-evident" - you are arguing in favor of murdering the kid No, I am saying, and reiterate and stand by, "The dog killer girl obviously isn't one of the innocent kids as should be self-evident." Nothing more, nothing less. Saying someone isn't innocent doesn't mean I advocate or am in favor of them being killed. I don't speak in hints or riddles and coded language. I say precisely what I mean. She factually wasn't innocent and that's all there is to it. Now, on the matter of her being killed, I already spoke to that specifically. As a neutral, impartial observer I couldn't care less either way. If I were to place myself in the shoes of the people closest to the situation, I would be distraught and furious if I were her mother and distraught and furious if I were the boy with a killed dog and would similarly seek to exact some form of vengeance for that reason. So it's quite an easy to understand matter, logically and emotionally, why someone affected by her actions would kill her in retaliation and those who would be opposed to and grieve her death. Nothing and neither side is so out of the realm of comprehension in this scenario for me at all. FreezePeach said: who, being stupid kid, killed an animal. This is obviously ridiculous. Dog killer needs a shrink, not executioner. Even adult in this case would at most get a modest fine. No one sane would argue for capital punishment. You do though. Capital punishment can only be enacted by a state authority. She was killed in an extrajudicial act of vigilante justice or "street" justice by an irate person affected by her actions. It's more like, if the person affected (the boy) didn't kill or harm her in any way and instead chose a peaceful route of mourning and crying to himself, I could understand. And if he chose to seek violent retribution, I could also easily understand. I'm not arguing "for" it because I don't really support or oppose her death. I'm pretty neutral on it and it's just easy to see why all the characters involved would act and react the way they did. If something similar happened in the physical world (our world), my stance would be pretty much identical. I wouldn't call for her death nor lament it. I simply wouldn't care either way and that's an honest, realistic take. There are such stories of violent feuds and revenge every day in the media locally in scale as well as regionally, nationally, and internationally. It's usually quite easy to understand both or the multiple sides' perspectives involved, and also not to really care who is the victor in their self-inflicted squabble. FreezePeach said: "The kid's motivations don't change the fact that" - kid's motivation changes everything, he intentionally and unreasonably murders people who do not present any threat to him and can't defend themselves. It makes him unlikable as the original poster mentioned. You can try arguing about semantics of word "innocent" all you want, it doesn't change the trivial basic facts shown in anime. I've already explained why it doesn't change anything. The practical effects and outcome are the same. Also, the people - specifically the armed government agents - he killed, are not remotely innocent bystanders in any sense of the word. That's not semantics anymore than pointing out someone calling an elephant a grasshopper is wrong is semantics. It's just calling out a factually untrue statement for what it is - Untrue. False. It's fine to disagree. But that's my stance and position, I stand by it, and I've already stated why in crystal clear detail. It makes him "unlikable" to you. And to other users who feel similarly. Certainly not everyone does. I don't, obviously. It didn't make him unlikable to me in the least. Although I would say I'm essentially neutral and ambivalent toward everyone in the series so far, including the kid, including the SWE agents, including the brothers and resistance movement. I haven't seen anyone come off as ridiculously unlikable; the kid included. And if his actions even indirectly lead to taking out several trained enforcers of a police state which hasn't been shown to be of any benefit to the country it presides over, then it might even be a net gain for the society. This government could be so destructive in the way it patrols civil society for thoughtcrimes and eradicates free speech with no alternative superior vision for the nation at all that its destabilization in any form it comes could be a welcome sight. I say "might" and "could be", because we don't know enough yet in what has been presented to see and fully be able to assess what this fictional state's aims are yet. FreezePeach said: Well, arguing with you makes about as much sense as arguing with a cat. You have problems dude, get help. You can dispense with the needless personal attacks. They never lead anywhere but to degrade and implode a conversation the moment they appear, but I won't play into that. Even if you have no intention of answering seriously or even accepting a respectful stance of disagreement and would instead prefer to insult like this, I'll still answer in the way I have because I rather correct assertions I see based on misinformation and factual errors about the series. Even if only for the benefit of myself and any third party passerby reading. |
WatchTillTandavaAug 13, 2021 1:11 AM
| That kid don't deserve getting saved... he mass killed so many people |
Sylverthas said: This is some Elfen Lied type stuff, which makes it very hard to take the actions of the characters seriously. Similar to Elfen Lied just in the sense that it contains a character you find it difficult to sympathize with? |
| The locked up people put on display like a human zoo is just sad and messed up, although its also kinda sad those government soldiers died due to Masayuki going mad. Naoto's mass hypnosis suggestion certainly would explain nobody remembering the war. |
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