Digimon Adventure: Episode 30 Discussion

KANLen09 said:
I'd swear that Lopmon has a role up its sleeve, it can't be there for just appearances, right?

Sakarii said:
This, imho, highlights everything wrong with this reboot. And the responses above exactly why we can't have actual good anime.

1) Human on Digimon Problem: Sora and Taichi should literally not be alive after being burned or electrocuted. It's never addressed or even hinted at why they are able to shrug off attacks despite a bullshit explanation right there in their hands constantly. How hard is it for the kids to talk and conclude their digivices protect them?

2) Koushiro's "There's big trouble in our world!": Pretty much his entire character shtick. Almost every scene with him is basically a version of that line to the point it's gotten ridiculous. And I'm so sick of this show trying to artificially inject a sense of tension; it doesn't work. At all. It and "separate the kids" have become too overused and we're only just halfway through.

3) Digimon Can't Talk: We have an old character that talked just fine back in the day despite being a minor villain: Veggimon. Yet all it does here is squeak with personality. Villains barely being able to talk is seriously getting on my nerves because it's soooo cheap of them to not hear seiyuus or even have staff do simple lines.

4) Crests: Another bit that's simply never explained yet the audience is supposed to understand. Not only that, but it also tries to make them super important when they're literally just symbols that don't mean/represent anything, not to the audience nor to the characters.

5) Evolutions: It may seem like the evos are based on the Crests (whatever those are supposed to represent) but they're not, not really. And trying to import OG Adventure knowledge is a fool's errand because the entire buildup to WarGreymon wasn't Courage. It's Determination. Taichi has not ever been scared beyond that one scene with Hikari and the Crest certainly didn't light up when he continued on. WarGreymon wasn't earned! What made WarGreymon feel earned in OG (even those it took angel arrows) is that Taichi, once again, stands up in the face of being afraid and puts his trust in potentially dying to save everyone. (And no, this isn't replicated here because, as stated above, he's not afraid nor does he face death via digimon attack.)

That entire montage is meant to be emotional, but what emotions am I supposed to feel? Awed that some kid I know next to nothing about likes to fight monsters? Impressed? Excited? Why?

What weight do pretty visuals have when there's nothing worthwhile behind it to back it up?

Something isn't and shouldn't be hype just because it's pretty.

5) The fight: So when the plot wants it (Metal)Greymon can defeat enemies above its pay grade and can go toe-to-toe with its own level, but somehow Parrotmon can easily destroy MetalGreymon. Beyond being outright stupid, why even do this? It's obvious Parrotmon is meant to be nostalgia bait, but it feels more insulting than pandering. Then it evolves and acts very familiar in its rekting of MetalGreymon but is then easily rekt by WarGreymon? The power scale has always been BS, but this goes above and beyond.


Digimon Adventure: is the literal opposite of how Digimon Adventure was written.

This isn't a story, it's a toy showcase, through and through.




It's literally in the preview.

Sakarii said:


1) Human on Digimon Problem: Sora and Taichi should literally not be alive after being burned or electrocuted. It's never addressed or even hinted at why they are able to shrug off attacks despite a bullshit explanation right there in their hands constantly. How hard is it for the kids to talk and conclude their digivices protect them?

2) Koushiro's "There's big trouble in our world!": Pretty much his entire character shtick. Almost every scene with him is basically a version of that line to the point it's gotten ridiculous. And I'm so sick of this show trying to artificially inject a sense of tension; it doesn't work. At all. It and "separate the kids" have become too overused and we're only just halfway through.

3) Digimon Can't Talk: We have an old character that talked just fine back in the day despite being a minor villain: Veggimon. Yet all it does here is squeak with personality. Villains barely being able to talk is seriously getting on my nerves because it's soooo cheap of them to not hear seiyuus or even have staff do simple lines.

4) Crests: Another bit that's simply never explained yet the audience is supposed to understand. Not only that, but it also tries to make them super important when they're literally just symbols that don't mean/represent anything, not to the audience nor to the characters.

5) Evolutions: It may seem like the evos are based on the Crests (whatever those are supposed to represent) but they're not, not really. And trying to import OG Adventure knowledge is a fool's errand because the entire buildup to WarGreymon wasn't Courage. It's Determination. Taichi has not ever been scared beyond that one scene with Hikari and the Crest certainly didn't light up when he continued on. WarGreymon wasn't earned! What made WarGreymon feel earned in OG (even those it took angel arrows) is that Taichi, once again, stands up in the face of being afraid and puts his trust in potentially dying to save everyone. (And no, this isn't replicated here because, as stated above, he's not afraid nor does he face death via digimon attack.)

That entire montage is meant to be emotional, but what emotions am I supposed to feel? Awed that some kid I know next to nothing about likes to fight monsters? Impressed? Excited? Why?

What weight do pretty visuals have when there's nothing worthwhile behind it to back it up?

Something isn't and shouldn't be hype just because it's pretty.

5) The fight: So when the plot wants it (Metal)Greymon can defeat enemies above its pay grade and can go toe-to-toe with its own level, but somehow Parrotmon can easily destroy MetalGreymon. Beyond being outright stupid, why even do this? It's obvious Parrotmon is meant to be nostalgia bait, but it feels more insulting than pandering. Then it evolves and acts very familiar in its rekting of MetalGreymon but is then easily rekt by WarGreymon? The power scale has always been BS, but this goes above and beyond.


Digimon Adventure: is the literal opposite of how Digimon Adventure was written.

This isn't a story, it's a toy showcase, through and through.




It's literally in the preview.

Skyguardian said:
Dear Nostalgia-Adventure watchers.

Just drop it if you don't like it. Go away, you are kinda annoying us with your constant bitching.

Bye.

EcchiGodMamster said:
LMAO as a late 80s kid who grew up with the original Digimon, which was my favorite anime back then, i can say i completely understand, however the "WTF are they even going for?" factor of this alternate version actually i find intriguing

one of my friends told me they're going for a Tai more like in the original manga, who was a bit of a lone warrior and figured shit out on his own, which is obviously far different than the "power of friendship" stuff from the original anime

Sakarii said:


Bye! See you next week, hunny!



tbqh, I have the same question. It's what keeps me watching; I gotta see where everything goes. As for the V-Tamer-like (I think?) Taichi, it'd be totally plausible if not Omegamon in the beginning and the show giving Yamato almost equal treatment. It does make me curious if we're gonna get extra Yamato eps to make up the balance or not.

I'd actually be okay with that kind of Taichi since I heard he's a bit of a badass.

Sakarii said:
This, imho, highlights everything wrong with this reboot. And the responses above exactly why we can't have actual good anime.

1) Human on Digimon Problem: Sora and Taichi should literally not be alive after being burned or electrocuted. It's never addressed or even hinted at why they are able to shrug off attacks despite a bullshit explanation right there in their hands constantly. How hard is it for the kids to talk and conclude their digivices protect them?

2) Koushiro's "There's big trouble in our world!": Pretty much his entire character shtick. Almost every scene with him is basically a version of that line to the point it's gotten ridiculous. And I'm so sick of this show trying to artificially inject a sense of tension; it doesn't work. At all. It and "separate the kids" have become too overused and we're only just halfway through.

3) Digimon Can't Talk: We have an old character that talked just fine back in the day despite being a minor villain: Veggimon. Yet all it does here is squeak with personality. Villains barely being able to talk is seriously getting on my nerves because it's soooo cheap of them to not hear seiyuus or even have staff do simple lines.

4) Crests: Another bit that's simply never explained yet the audience is supposed to understand. Not only that, but it also tries to make them super important when they're literally just symbols that don't mean/represent anything, not to the audience nor to the characters.

5) Evolutions: It may seem like the evos are based on the Crests (whatever those are supposed to represent) but they're not, not really. And trying to import OG Adventure knowledge is a fool's errand because the entire buildup to WarGreymon wasn't Courage. It's Determination. Taichi has not ever been scared beyond that one scene with Hikari and the Crest certainly didn't light up when he continued on. WarGreymon wasn't earned! What made WarGreymon feel earned in OG (even those it took angel arrows) is that Taichi, once again, stands up in the face of being afraid and puts his trust in potentially dying to save everyone. (And no, this isn't replicated here because, as stated above, he's not afraid nor does he face death via digimon attack.)

That entire montage is meant to be emotional, but what emotions am I supposed to feel? Awed that some kid I know next to nothing about likes to fight monsters? Impressed? Excited? Why?

What weight do pretty visuals have when there's nothing worthwhile behind it to back it up?

Something isn't and shouldn't be hype just because it's pretty.

5) The fight: So when the plot wants it (Metal)Greymon can defeat enemies above its pay grade and can go toe-to-toe with its own level, but somehow Parrotmon can easily destroy MetalGreymon. Beyond being outright stupid, why even do this? It's obvious Parrotmon is meant to be nostalgia bait, but it feels more insulting than pandering. Then it evolves and acts very familiar in its rekting of MetalGreymon but is then easily rekt by WarGreymon? The power scale has always been BS, but this goes above and beyond.


Digimon Adventure: is the literal opposite of how Digimon Adventure was written.

This isn't a story, it's a toy showcase, through and through.

Sakarii said:
I'd actually be okay with that kind of Taichi since I heard he's a bit of a badass.

BliuTiger said:
I have never once felt the main characters were in any sort of danger during the entirety of this series. How could I?
Just random meaningless bullshit powerup after powerup.
Incompetent enemies with no personality.
Kids don't take virtually any damage from direct hits with lightning bolts and fire.
Power scaling is literally up to the writers' whim at any given moment.

This is trash. Am I supposed to care because WarGreymon looks pretty? Things were never this easy in the original. It wasn't perfect but there was still at least meaning behind evolutions beyond Adult level, or at least a semblance of an honest attempt behind certain ones.

SailorVeki said:
Anyone knows why there was no episode on January 3rd?

SailorVeki said:
Anyone knows why there was no episode on January 3rd?

MahiaErebeaNegi said:
Because of new year holidays.