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Jul 19, 2019 10:35 AM
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I wonder if Mangetsu even realizes what she's getting herself into now. This Anna girl is going to be a tough one to deal with tbh. She has a much more tougher personality than the others.

It seems the episode is setting up for bigger events in the future. Honestly, I really wonder how they can keep this story flowing.
Jul 19, 2019 1:43 PM
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we get to see what the other girls are fighting for, Anna basically is out for pure revenge against Shingetsu cause she betrayed? her family or something. They also were childhood friends it seems but that surely wasn't all yet.

There is also white haired girl who wants to lift a curse from her sister and chinese girl which simply wants to prove that she is an adult through Granbelm, there was also something with her mother at the end tho, didn't get it.

Anyway it was a good episode, Shingetsu and Mangetsu are just too cute together <3
Jul 19, 2019 1:51 PM
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Hmmm, I'm now wondering what happened between Shingetsu and Anne's family, maybe Shingetsu messed up with their memories or something?

Good world building on this episode, specially about the mage lineage inheritance that required families to bond between themselves in order to keep it up.

Sfx and Soundtrack on point!
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Jul 19, 2019 2:01 PM
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Mangetsu decided to participate in the fighting.

The Anna girl sure has an aggressive personality. She has a history with Shingetsu.

Jul 19, 2019 3:32 PM
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Pretty cool how Mangetsu is taught to operate the mech through her own memories. Another really great episode, the character focus is much different than I thought it would be, but it's really nice to see. Visuals are still strong too and I just love the aesthetic and use of color.
Jul 19, 2019 6:23 PM
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I hope that Shingetus makes up with Anne I wonder why Anne's family does not care about how Anne feels and I do think that Shingetus does look down on Anne even thought she thinks that she does't I hope they do not kill one éther
Jul 19, 2019 6:26 PM
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well Anna is definitely ax crazy on that battlefield.

looks like that not-really a middle schooler girl is planning unleash some kind of massive laser!

The new mech, with the shoulder shape, colors, fan weapons, and the SD proportiions, reminds me of the Sangokuden Qubeley.

Overall a solid ep, can't wait to see what happens next in this battle!
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Jul 19, 2019 7:38 PM
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I haven't tried Tonkatsu yet, but it can't be much better than a good Schnitzel :P

Pretty gripping episode again. We learned more about the characters and their motivation. Also got some dope action. And boy, Anna is a savage.

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Jul 19, 2019 7:46 PM
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I doubt Shingetsu did anything sinister with intention to Anna's family, maybe it's one of those misunderstandings. No, I know it's a misunderstanding because she's too cute for any sinister shit. Mangetsu should just trust that face that's all.
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Jul 20, 2019 12:06 AM

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For the minor who are watching this, I'd assume pretty much of the story is laid down towards character development.

So apparently Anna and Shingetsu have some history between them, and I assume the rest of the girls too. Their connections however, is still a big fat question mark, other than their call and motivation, and clearing misunderstandings.

Well I'd guess that Mangetsu has to learn to wield her mech sooner or later. Even after Her laid-back and quirkish personality still doesn't reek the seriousness of Granbelm until she realizes its true meaning. That's my major concern if there's anything to go by.

The mech fights are good, but more so, extremely on-point. Seems that there are others who also want the ultimate power to save their loved ones, case on-point, Ji Guan Long and Nene.

Did not expect this series to take a turn so soon. While being a solid episode, holding no expectations for now, really hoping for the dark-yet-bright future to come.
Jul 20, 2019 12:18 AM
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Hmm a demon huh a curious accusation. Still Shingetsu's method of dealing with Anna's rage was impressive. Given both the power and scarcity of magic the magic families allying with each other is to be expected. I kinda expected that Anna's family was affected somehow by taking in of Shingetsu but it seems that she merely effected Anna's standing within the family. Seems imagination is the key for piloting the doll in combat. So the terrain of the magical world changes according to the memories of those that fight in it huh. Anna's jealousy and her desire for revenge really knows no bounds here. Looks like the battle is starting to heat up with the new arrivals. A solid ep that did well to expand upon both Anna's character and the origin of her vengeance while also expanding upon both the world and the types of motivations that fuel those that fight in it.
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Jul 20, 2019 1:05 AM

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Most of the people, laughs about this anime...

But every episode i see.. more curious im about it...

This could be another hidden gem of the season...



PS: the ED reminds me Shoujo Kageki Revue Starlight
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Jul 20, 2019 1:25 AM

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got a question, mangetsu is full moon, shingetsu is half moon, then Does zangetsu means growing moon? and what name is the declining or waning moon?
Jul 20, 2019 3:43 AM

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The chinese fried rice cooked by Nene looks delicious!!
Well, more food to feed her loli friend. :p

Now about Nene's mech, it's one of the seriously weak ones. Ji Guan Long is specialized in ranged attacks, but it takes a severely long time to get off even one shot.. and it can't one-hit kill an armanox even if the shot connects with the target. Ernesta's mech only lost an arm after a hit. Nene has better chances if she befriend Mangetsu and Shingetsu. Then when they win, ask them to use the magic to help her mom before erase all magic.
Jul 20, 2019 5:57 AM
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so far it just seems like Anne is jealous that ernesta is getting more attention then she is a guess
Jul 20, 2019 6:16 AM

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@Mattinator95

Ernesta was shown to be in Anne's house at an early age. Seeing Anne and Ernesta talking friendly with each other when they were younger.. shows that Anne was not really hostile at the start. Something must have happened as they grew up together.
Jul 20, 2019 6:20 AM
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@Mattinator95

Ernesta was shown to be in Anne's house at an early age. Seeing Anne and Ernesta talking friendly with each other when they were younger.. shows that Anne was not really hostile at the start. Something must have happened as they grew up together.


im assuming its the whole adoption thing . like anna is defensive or something like she has got this mindset that ernesta is trying to take her family away from her or something.

inst that a usual thing that happens in anime ?
Jul 20, 2019 6:40 AM

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Hm, seeing Nene's sisters both in the past and the present and how she keeps complaining she's an adult makes me wonder if the magic stoped her growth since both her sisters look like they're in high school while they looked younger than her in the flashbacks or they're triplets at the very least.
Jul 20, 2019 6:51 AM

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Mattinator95 said:
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@Mattinator95

Ernesta was shown to be in Anne's house at an early age. Seeing Anne and Ernesta talking friendly with each other when they were younger.. shows that Anne was not really hostile at the start. Something must have happened as they grew up together.


im assuming its the whole adoption thing . like anna is defensive or something like she has got this mindset that ernesta is trying to take her family away from her or something.

inst that a usual thing that happens in anime ?


that's also a possible route. Although until we're shown more of the past, we're just both speculating things here. During the battle this episode, Anne said something about Ernesta making a fool out of her or something like that, and that possibly caused all this hostility to happen.
Jul 20, 2019 6:52 AM

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Hm, seeing Nene's sisters both in the past and the present and how she keeps complaining she's an adult makes me wonder if the magic stoped her growth since both her sisters look like they're in high school while they looked younger than her in the flashbacks or they're triplets at the very least.


yeah, she's the only one who stayed in middle-school looks while both her sisters matured and are now taller than her. xD
Jul 20, 2019 7:37 AM

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Despite having mecha this anime is not action but about the interaction between the characters and their backgrounds as now with the crazy-faced girl. this episode like the previous one, makes a section between everyday life and the magical part where they fight in mechas, it reminds me a bit of black rock shooter, but without being as bad as that show.
I think it's decent and interesting, I do not think it deserves to have a lower score than the type isekai and his mother who is just another ecchi without dignity.
Jul 20, 2019 11:13 AM

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The anime is getting more interesting. This new girl seems to be strong.
Jul 20, 2019 8:00 PM

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I'm actually starting to like this one. It's got a nice slice-of-life feel to it mixed with action. I feel like this has the potential to turn into a yuri...Mangetsu and Fukami seem like they could be love interests for one another...just a thought.
Jul 20, 2019 9:19 PM
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I don't know what I'm watching
Jul 20, 2019 9:37 PM

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I'm guessing Anna is just Shinji from Fate and she's angry her family intended to adopt Ernesta.

Ernesta probably has more magical power and Anna figured her family would support her in the Granblem contest over Anna. Which would essentially make Ernesta Sakura, except Anna's family genuinely seems to love Ernesta. Of course she also wants to win to stop the cycle, making her Shiro as well.

I'm also wondering if the sleeping older sister of the white haired girl lost a previous Granblem and was put in that state.

At the same time I find it strange that Mangetsu hasn't asked more questions of Ernesta. Mangetsu doesn't seem like the type to harm others just to find meaning in her own life, so you would think she would ask Ernestsa what dangers there are in fighting in Granblem.
Jul 20, 2019 10:13 PM

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I'm completely lost.
Jul 20, 2019 11:08 PM

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I'm also wondering if the sleeping older sister of the white haired girl lost a previous Granblem and was put in that state.


it's already mentioned that Granbelm happens every few decades. The two sisters would need to be much older, if the cursed girl in bed lost in a previous contest. Unless of course, their aging process is delayed because of magic.
Jul 21, 2019 6:49 AM

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We didn't see much Mangetsu action this ep. Wonder why Anne is so angry at Sangetsu
Jul 21, 2019 9:08 AM
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I don't know what I'm watching

Mormegil said:
I'm completely lost.


These guys

I understand nothing but it's very atmospheric so I interested in continuation
Jul 21, 2019 9:38 AM

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Liddo-kun said:
HOOfan_1 said:

I'm also wondering if the sleeping older sister of the white haired girl lost a previous Granblem and was put in that state.


it's already mentioned that Granbelm happens every few decades. The two sisters would need to be much older, if the cursed girl in bed lost in a previous contest. Unless of course, their aging process is delayed because of magic.


Or like the Fifth Holy Grail War war premature, the Granblem is too.
Jul 21, 2019 12:39 PM

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I think Shingetsu's talk about misunderstandings must be true between her and Anna. Anna's younger sister and mother treated her very kindly, but Anna just wants to see Shingetsu suffer, whether it be within the Granbelm mechs or back in the real world. Either way, I do hope to see more of the past between them so us viewers can find out the true reason why Anna despises Shingetsu so much.

As with episode 1, the animation for the mech fights are great, as is the soundtracks and sound effects.

Mangetsu is holding her own decently well, but with the new girl arriving like a Beyblade and with Nene's long-ranged attack focused mech charging up a powerful attack. it'll be interesting to see what happens next time. =)
Jul 21, 2019 6:11 PM

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WOW! I'm hysterically confused!
hmmm why is that [GJM] subs has sound effects very loud volume while voice volume is quite low...!?
4/5.


Jul 21, 2019 10:00 PM
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Well things start to take shape in this episode, we knew the reason for some of the girls to participate in the Granbelm and the truth is that things are loaded with different feelings, positive and negative.

I love those moments between Shingetsu and Mangetsu, the little pink hair tries to be a friend of Shingetsu, but our cold girl is a little distant with poor Mangetsu, but at least she was kind enough to train Mangetsu to handle her Armanox.

At last we understand a little the hatred that Anna has towards Shingetsu, who treats her like a demon and accuses her of crumbling her family. Anna's mother and sister seem to know Shingetsu and also have great affection for the girl, to the point of wanting to adopt her, but Shingetsu fled from this family, I assume that because of Anna and another unknown reason.

Another character we met is Nene, who is a classmate of Mangetsu's younger sister, apparently her reason for participating in the Granbelm has somwthing to do with her mother and sisters.
I really liked Nene's rude and lonely personality, the lonely wolf that can not separate from the pink hair loli.

The white-haired girl is the one who left me with more curiosity, she still does not introduce herself, but she goes to the same school as Nene and Mangetsu's little sister. It seems someone very sensitive to sounds and apparently has an older sister with some kind of curse, but her Armanox is beautiful, I really liked the way this girl made her Armanox materialize.

The day of the full moon arrives and all the girls enter the battlefield, Anna does not delay in violently attacking Shingetsu and Mangetsu, Anna's companion, Suishou gives me a bad feeling, that cynical smile and that carefree attitude are just a facade, I bet she's rotten inside.
I look forward to what will happen in the next episode, hopefully Shingetsu and Mangetsu survive.

This episode stood out a lot in the area of ​​sound and soundtrack, the sound effects fascinated me and the soundtrack that we could hear was according to the situation and was to my liking.
Jul 24, 2019 2:25 AM

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Shingetsus behavior is very confusing. Her main goal seems to be Kiritsugus, but she is also incredible friendly to Mangetsu, which makes little sense if her plan is to win, because she probably just teaches a competitor. Unless she wants her as an ally, but for that she still holds back a lot of information.
In general she seems to send out very mixed messages.
Anna seems to be in a similar boat, she is obviously super pissed at Shingetsu for something that happened in their past, but also an entitled brat and gets kind of ignored by her own family?

I can get that people don't like the designs, the animation is barely passable and the story seems pretty standard, but there is some mystery in that clusterfudge of characters that all have their own motivation but no clear cases between each other.

COOKIECAT360 said:
I'm actually starting to like this one. It's got a nice slice-of-life feel to it mixed with action. I feel like this has the potential to turn into a yuri...Mangetsu and Fukami seem like they could be love interests for one another...just a thought.

It feels a little bit forced to be honest, because I don't get much of the chemistry between those two. I think there is more chemistry in that direction between the chinese girl and Mangetsus sister (but there is a quite large age difference, on the other hand the sister seems pretty mature).
Jul 26, 2019 5:27 AM

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I don't know why, but this show is confusing to me. For some reason I have a really hard time telling all the girls apart, except for the one who looks like Emilia and her rival.
Jul 26, 2019 7:58 AM

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Anime,, Last time i told you,, No males or over the top violence ,,You brutally attacked my precious lesbian angel multiple times ,,,,You said very disturbing things, and you talk about boyfriends ,,,,,,,, You had 5/10 , After this you have 1/10



Jul 26, 2019 7:00 PM

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The writing in this show is absolutely horrendous. I appreciate the attempt to not just plainly spell everything out like so many anime do, but they are doing so at the cost of their own narrative style and actually making cohesive sense. It's just really poorly done.
Jul 27, 2019 12:56 PM

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The writing in this show is absolutely horrendous. I appreciate the attempt to not just plainly spell everything out like so many anime do, but they are doing so at the cost of their own narrative style and actually making cohesive sense. It's just really poorly done.


Glad to hear it's not just me confused af by this series
Jul 27, 2019 8:40 PM

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Hylianticipated said:
The writing in this show is absolutely horrendous. I appreciate the attempt to not just plainly spell everything out like so many anime do, but they are doing so at the cost of their own narrative style and actually making cohesive sense. It's just really poorly done.


Glad to hear it's not just me confused af by this series


The thing is, it's not hard to understand what is happening in a general sense, but they way they introduce new information is so poorly done. In a book or show that is well written the viewer is supposed to feel a sense of wonder and excitement from the mystery, making them try to piece it together themselves with the clues given; and when it is revealed it's supposed to feel either surprising or like a reward. This show just introduces poorly devised concepts with no exposition whatsoever leaving the viewer baffled, and when it's finally explained all that is felt is "well why didn't you just say so?" It's so poorly written that what could have been an intriguing premise (almost like a mecha/magical girl version of the Fate series) is just coming off as a rough draft by some high schooler who hasn't fleshed out the details yet.
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Hylianticipated said:
The thing is, it's not hard to understand what is happening in a general sense, but they way they introduce new information is so poorly done. In a book or show that is well written the viewer is supposed to feel a sense of wonder and excitement from the mystery, making them try to piece it together themselves with the clues given; and when it is revealed it's supposed to feel either surprising or like a reward. This show just introduces poorly devised concepts with no exposition whatsoever leaving the viewer baffled, and when it's finally explained all that is felt is "well why didn't you just say so?" It's so poorly written that what could have been an intriguing premise (almost like a mecha/magical girl version of the Fate series) is just coming off as a rough draft by some high schooler who hasn't fleshed out the details yet.


Have you got any actual examples of the issues you speak of? Not trying to argue, just wish to understand your criticism better as I haven't experienced anything like you have with this. Nothing has appeared overly complicated to me yet. In fact I find the show's been exceedingly simple in everything plot and character related so far. And certainly nothing has made me think "well why didn't you just say so?" towards the writing, or that it's "poorly devised" and lacking exposition. Everything seems coherent enough to me. (Though I did binge these first three episodes--maybe that played a role??).
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Jul 29, 2019 6:24 AM
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Much more interesting than ep1, almost too fast with how much detail is stuffed in.

Mages merge bloodlines to keep magic family strong (dads where?).

Anna: pissed off Shingetsu stole her family's love. It shows the most with sis Clare wearing the Shingetsu hairpin.

Shingetsu: Anna's family adopted (supposedly) her early on, so they were childhood friends turned sour. On their 2nd meetup, she purposefully let Anna slap her to show their family Anna's jealousy, and a major reason why she rejects the adoption.

Blue girl: she might be the real devil tearing that family apart. She doesn't help Anna fight, and in the car alerted Clare to spotting Shingetsu to stir the shitstorm.

Hong Kong: Right before the flashback/shitstorm, their teacher talked about Treaty of Nanking (very sensitive time to mention HK politics btw). Nearly drawing parallels, maybe Britain as Shingetsu, China as Anna, & HK as her family.

Nene: adult in kid body hermit with 2 sisters, all from HK again, helping their sniper mech? Pretty weird setting, but this HK historical reference seems important.

Mangetsu's imouto: yuri fried rice... oh wait. She knows Mangetsu tries to play nice with everyone, but still ends up alone & forgotten (ep2). Nene's the complete opposite (cold aloof type), and that's what imouto loves about Nene. She's brutally honest, but it's unclear if she hates or pities her oneesan.

Kuon: weird sound/smell silver girl. Man the backgrounds & color shades are goregeous, even to the isekai world. They hint each world's drawn from someone's mind, likely Kuon's. She's trying to win the grail to cure her oneesan of some blindness/curse.
Something particular about the humming scene & fried rice scene that's quite disconcerting or unique. Turns out Jukki Hanada did Euphonium, lots of kyoani shows, Bochi & more shows with depressing character shades.

Shingetsu: she dreams of becoming Kiritsugu Emiya. Pink girl understands but is hiding something. Seems Anna cheated somehow to overpower her (that glowing questionmark looks suspicious lol).

Emilia's musical mech looks more traditional with proper limbs. Nene's mech is charging up. So far unclear they any will join forces yet.

So far a lot is vaguely hinted of each character. It could become a mess but hopefully the threads could resolve later on.
Jul 29, 2019 10:54 AM

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so... more EMO in this episode...

Seems like this entire series runs on EMO...
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Aug 1, 2019 9:42 AM

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The more I watch this show the more I like the character designs. Shingetsu has some sort of deep grudge against magic itself although it's kind of still a mystery as to why, but it seems to possibly relate to Anna who she has a rivalry with? Well, it seems like they're enemies than rivals actually. This episode was a little too fastly paced.「待っててね、お母さん」
Aug 4, 2019 11:46 AM
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A new battle begins, new mages are introduced and the past between Shingetsu and Anna comes to light. I'm starting to like Anna, she serves as a fine antagonist for Shingetsu and this episodes gives them both a fair amount of character depth. Still, even when Anna accuses Shingetsu of ruining her family, all Shingetsu does is deflect the issue and say that Anna is misremembering things. While the show begins to pick up steam, the story's pacing was a bit slow in this episode. Hopefully, the next episode will improve things, now that the battle is in full swing and new fighters stand revealed.
Sep 26, 2019 12:41 PM

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Another good episode

The characters are very entertaining
Oct 10, 2019 3:50 AM
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The battles are confusing af, truth be told I can't discern the robots if I don't see the girls inside that pilot them.

Also what's up with the Chinese names?
I thought I was watching a Japanese anime.
Mar 16, 2020 12:56 PM

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I have no idea what the hell is going on.
Mar 21, 2020 12:19 PM

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3 eps in and i am liking it but overall i just wanna see angry girl get beat cause she is really annoying
"one step at a time"
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I know this show is trying to do something. I know it is, but I can't help but see it as nothing else but a Madoka Magica knock-off with mechas. One that isn't even that good. Every girl fighting for deep personal reasons just confirmed it to me. Stuff like that can sometimes be very good, but here in my opinion, it is a failure.
And the characters... They also tried to do something with them but the issue is still the same, they reunite every single character trait of the archetype they're inspired by, and I can already tell that they're all weaker characters than the ones they remind me of.
Mangetsu is like an action-girl version of Madoka (she even sounds like her sometimes), but I really don't see anything that makes her stand out, I don't see why I should care, even if she has self-esteem issues. She has to be unique in some way.
Shingetsu's not really better, her personality is so generic she ends up being bland, I don't even want to root for her because I don't have any interest in her, even though I can tell they tried to make her interesting. It just falls flat.
Anna might be the only character that prevents me for dropping. She isn't that original either, but at least she is interesting. I generally love characters like her as they are very interesting most of the time and while I don't expect to love her at the end, I'd like to see more of her.
Nene... Another archetype, and one I don't appreciate that much. I'm still curious about her backstory though.
Aoi Yuki's character whose name I forgot is pretty entertaining, that's all I can say for now. She's quite a fun character though I hope she'll develop a bit.
The one who wants to save her sister is a mix between a few different archetypes but the result isn't promising to be honest. I'll still give her a chance to develop in further episodes.
Mamgetsu's sister is Mangetsu's sister. A mini version of her. Yay.
The one who lost her powers apparently disappeared now, okay, so she didn't serve any purpose, great. Too bad, she was pretty interesting.
So truly not a promising cast, the only one I have some real interest in being Anna. I hope this'll change.
Honestly everything is going way too fast and there are way too many characters, I don't even manage to fully understand what's going on during the fight scenes.
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We’re starting to lay down some interesting threads; I hope this show will be able to take its time and properly flesh out all the combatants.

It doesn’t really seem like there’s some dark twist ahead yet, which surprises me. I still expect something dark and/or some consequence of Granbelm to come, especially since the story seems relatively straightforward in terms of future direction,
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