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Sep 10, 2009 6:50 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Eren left without letting Reiji know, she said he should fight Cal.

Mio said Cal should know that Reiji is hurt, too. Cal is angry and shot her.
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Sep 10, 2009 11:39 PM
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That is mega-misleading. Cal shot at her, but intentionally missed. She was trying to scare Mio, who is unharmed.
Sep 11, 2009 9:20 AM
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Sorry for the misleading info.
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Sep 11, 2009 10:59 AM
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Well, just watched the RAW.



What was changed from VN
Sep 11, 2009 3:43 PM
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Good ep. I don't like the look of Reiji's face when he's on the phone in the preview, though :(

A friend of mine translated the summary that's posted on the official site for episode 25. There is a hint about what is most likely going to happen.

SEE POST FOR EPISODE 25 INFORMATION
LadyOrihimeSep 14, 2009 11:32 AM
Sep 11, 2009 6:03 PM
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LadyOrihime said:
Good ep. I don't like the look of Reiji's face when he's on the phone in the preview, though :(

A friend of mine translated the summary that's posted on the official site for episode 25. If anyone wants it, let me know...there is a big hint about what is most likely going to happen.

And a picture on the Phantom blog:

So what your telling me is that Reiji killed... Cal?
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Sep 11, 2009 6:40 PM
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I have a very heavy feeling that one of the two is going to die. I'll smack myself if Ein dies and throw a party if Cals die. If they both live, I'll do nothing.
Sep 12, 2009 2:15 PM
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I have a very heavy feeling that one of the two is going to die. I'll smack myself if Ein dies and throw a party if Cals die. If they both live, I'll do nothing.


ME TOO. Man, me too.
Sep 12, 2009 4:13 PM
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Xizel said:
I have a very heavy feeling that one of the two is going to die. I'll smack myself if Ein dies and throw a party if Cals die. If they both live, I'll do nothing.

Hey i agree with you.
If cal dies I WILL celebrate!x3
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Sep 13, 2009 1:11 PM

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Xizel said:
I have a very heavy feeling that one of the two is going to die. I'll smack myself if Ein dies and throw a party if Cals die. If they both live, I'll do nothing.


If Elen dies then i will personally go to japan and shoot the living hell out of the creators.



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KingDeadKira said:
Xizel said:
I have a very heavy feeling that one of the two is going to die. I'll smack myself if Ein dies and throw a party if Cals die. If they both live, I'll do nothing.


If Elen dies then i will personally go to japan and shoot the living hell out of the creators.


Dont worry, your "sweet" Elen got that plot shield and the "MC" status going for her so she wont die even if you pierce her with some bullets or strike her with a toilet bowl <_<

It's Cal who got a high chance of dying, of course, since she was merely a "side character", GDODAMN prejudice... Still hope those producers at least have some common sense and make her die in some wonderful way befitting of a magnificent character such as her even if she was a "side character" <_<



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Sep 13, 2009 2:36 PM

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Well, think about it. Three new assassins are rolling out. My prediction is that Reiji will calm Cal down and then they team up to destroy those new assassins. After all, Cal is a main character, a hated and unwanted one at that.

P.S. Goodness gracious, when the hell is this episode getting subbed.
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Xizel said:
P.S. Goodness gracious, when the hell is this episode getting subbed.


yah.. inferno is taking some time.. i wonder why.. were they distracted by the rape scene?

and nekomimi is still behind by an episode (or two once this is released).. though i'm archiving theirs.. 810p..
Sep 14, 2009 11:26 AM

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damn, last two weeks they subbed it so it was available on Saturday, usually subs are out on Sunday, but this time its already 4 days....ehhhh...i hate waiting
Sep 14, 2009 11:26 AM

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^ Lets just hope it doesn't take as long as it did to get episode 20 >.<

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I don't know if we are allowed to create a spoiler thread for the next episode(s), so I just created a page with all the information and pictures I've gathered from the official site, the official blog, the episode preview, and ANN about EPISODE 25:

EPISODE 25 INFORMATION
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^

I wished I never clicked the last link. If 25 is going to be like that, I'm wondering about 26.
Sep 14, 2009 2:31 PM

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I can tell you the title of episode 26 if you want...it's also a big clue as to how episode 25 will turn out.
Sep 14, 2009 4:51 PM

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Well, 26 is obvious. Either Reiji dies for Ein, or he kills the new sex slaves and get a deal up with Inferno. Maybe he'll kill Scythe. Just my three cents.
Sep 14, 2009 7:37 PM

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Not im not Happy :( she doesn't deserve to die they cut too much stuff to get her reactions and pain don't forget he was violated by her father at the age of 5
The corpse is obvious :(
not fair they could let her alive
noo Cherry Blossom
neither Dusty Desert
im done with the piccs suspense and hopes are gone away
was Reiji the real Phantom soo for who the Requiem is O_O Bummer Beetrain T_T
episode 26 not spoilers because its easy to find is Elen here
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Airitoizzy said:
Not im not Happy :( she doesn't deserve to die they cut too much stuff to get her reactions and pain don't forget he was violated by her father at the age of 5
The corpse is obvious :(
not fair they could let her alive
noo Cherry Blossom
neither Dusty Desert
im done with the piccs suspense and hopes are gone away
was Reiji the real Phantom soo for who the Requiem is O_O Bummer Beetrain T_T
episode 26 not spoilers because its easy to find is Elen here


Glad having a comrade to mourn over Cal with =D



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Sep 16, 2009 2:05 AM

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Clothing-destruction incident still happens, but is totally than the VN. Gotta hand it to TV Tokyo censorship..
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Sep 16, 2009 4:41 AM

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Subs are out!

But I probably didn't need to tell you guys XD
Sep 16, 2009 7:09 AM
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Build-up episode and we finally get to see Cal's gentler side (and twisted side as well)
bla bla bla
The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
Sep 16, 2009 7:35 AM

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Not a bad episode, but it probably would be impossible to drag this out any longer
Sep 16, 2009 11:05 AM

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I hope that's not all the flashback that we get from Cal, since it didn't do anything but underscore what she's been saying for a month now. I don't get the sudden turn from her, crying in front her hostage like that. All it says to me is that she clearly lost her mind.

Overall, not a bad episode, but not a good one either. I still think things are chugging along, and considering it's the end, it's just very weird.
Sep 16, 2009 11:12 AM

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Good Episode.
I don't really want Drei or Elen to die but if one has to, well I'd rather see Drei die.
Ya know I miss Cal a lot and, seeing her in the flashback in this episode made me want to go rewatch all her episodes. I really, REALLY, love Cal but evil, psycho, Drei not so much...

Close the world,
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Sep 16, 2009 12:40 PM

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well the next episode is the clash...
Sep 16, 2009 12:54 PM

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finally watch this epd, good build-up

i hope elen doesn't get killed.
Sep 16, 2009 2:01 PM

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For some reason this episode made me notice that the Mio in this anime "somewhat but not a lot" reminds me of the Mio from K-ON!
Sep 16, 2009 2:42 PM

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ZZZZ...ZZZZ...ZZZZ.... Oh, everyone, could you tell me what happened? The only thing that kept my eyes open hollowly and all my brain could record was Cal so yeah... No idea what just happened in this ep other than stuffs about Cal <_<

Poor Cal, if only I can lend her my bosom when she was crying... ;(

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For some reason this episode made me notice that the Mio in this anime "somewhat but not a lot" reminds me of the Mio from K-ON!


Duh, no Shimapan =/= Mio <_<



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Sep 16, 2009 3:08 PM

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This was the first episode where I was tempted to skip a minute or two. I hope the last two episodes will be worth it. This was the first series to have me watch every second and minute.
Sep 16, 2009 3:12 PM

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I liked the music during the scene with Scythe Master. You could feel his joy at the successful completion of his masterpiece. It was one of those "Hell yeah, science has triumphed!" scenes.
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Sep 16, 2009 3:31 PM

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About Scythe, I wonder when he'll get dumped by his work. It has to happen some time.
Sep 16, 2009 4:33 PM

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LadyOrihime said:
Good ep. I don't like the look of Reiji's face when he's on the phone in the preview, though :(

A friend of mine translated the summary that's posted on the official site for episode 25. If anyone wants it, let me know...there is a big hint about what is most likely going to happen.

And a picture on the Phantom blog:



Hey wow, put spoilers around your post if you're gonna talk about another spoiler. I did it for you just now (so as to not ruin it for other people looking at this post). But yeah, thanks a lot, I didn't want to know what the pic was about but now I do. :/

Anyway, good episode, hope things pick up for the finale.
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Well, think about it. Three new assassins are rolling out. My prediction is that Reiji will calm Cal down and then they team up to destroy those new assassins. After all, Cal is a main character, a hated and unwanted one at that.

P.S. Goodness gracious, when the hell is this episode getting subbed.


Basically what I mentioned last episode and the episode before. It feels to much like SM's women will show up at the right time and divert Ein, Cal, and Reiji's attention away from killing each other. I really hope they don't rush the ending.
Sep 16, 2009 6:54 PM

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HOW I really want this anime to end is reiiji finding a way to convince cal to forgive him and then they join forces to kill the scythe master and kill the hinderswarchen or something...and then they live happily ever after...of course reiji will have to choose between 3 girls...
Sep 16, 2009 7:32 PM

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Cal is like a sadist xD haha ...

so violent ... although i dont think she enjoy it ... but its kinda sad


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It feels like nothing happened in this episode.

I was excited at first but now I just want it to end D:
Sep 16, 2009 8:17 PM

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This series has been a constant roller coaster. last three episodes were so-so, but this one was great and it looks like it will be an exciting (albeit predictable) conclusion.

The only thing I don't understand is how they will be able to cram the Reiji, Eren, Cal fight with the new assassin fight.... Could prove to be a pacing issue.
Sep 16, 2009 9:32 PM

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Im kinda starting to sympathize cal a bit more.
But. eren is still my favourite. It was a very emotion episode. Nearly cried, but held it in=]
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Sep 17, 2009 6:51 AM

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ok episode, watching the Cal flashback and seeing her crying reiji name was heartbreaking to say the least, though the lead-up to it was a little underwhelming. Doesn't look good for Cal if you listen to the next episode preview :/ plus the last shot of her looked quite tragic, 'Redemption for Cal.. even in her dreams..' Fingers Crossed that Cal has a happy ending. Seen the 'preview' pictures but I'll wait to watch the episode since it could be misleading.
Sep 17, 2009 8:39 AM
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The direction is getting weaker with every passing episode. Nothing much to add, it was another semi-filler, but I guess the climax will happen out of nowhere in the next two episodes.

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Sep 17, 2009 12:59 PM

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It felt like is was dragging a little bit in the middle but the later in the second half it got better. Poor Mio having to go through all of that. Hopefully there will be a satisfying ending...(my ideal ending is sycthe master dying...almost doesn't even matter what else happens).
Sep 17, 2009 3:28 PM

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Nice episode, but it was a bit slow.

Reiji did nothing at all. :-|

I like Mio more than Cal, because, as it has already been said, Cal's reason for hating Reiji is just stupid. And why the hell treating Mio like that? She did nothing. Cal's just a sad envious bitch.
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I have a very heavy feeling that one of the two is going to die. I'll smack myself if Ein dies and throw a party if Cals die. If they both live, I'll do nothing.
Same here, lol.
I just hope Reiji, Elen, and Mio don't die, and Scythe goes to hell.

watching, waiting, commiserating
Sep 17, 2009 6:28 PM

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I was a little late watching this one but i liked it.
The last scene put the fear on my heart than only Reiji would stay alive. Both Cal and Ein seemed to say there goodbye words. The other phantoms appearing might help the situation though.

Scythe Master doing his creepy creme thing in young nude female bodies. He looked so happy now that he has his own harem. By the way they put some black censoring, i wonder if that will be removed in the blu-ray version.

Did Cal do anything to Mio after she torned her clothes? They didn't show us anything but she said she's gone make her feel how it is to suffer and Mio was quite scared when she woke up. She fainted just from getting her shirt torned?

Well it looks to me like Cal wants to die. She can't admit that she still loves Reiji and ask him to go with him and she lives on a fake hate that she knows she doesn't really have, so she probably feels empty right now. Maybe that's why at least fighting Ein makes her feel good.
On the other hand Ein really has grown up from the puppet she used to be. She is very matured now. A real woman, while Cal is more like a confused child or teenager. But i guess that's her age despite how she looks.
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As someone else said, this was a build-up episode; therefore, its worth will be heavily dependent on what the next episode or two will be like, with the climax and all (Speaking of climax, the strange orgasm BGM got thrown in there again very randomly, right when Cal tore Mio's shirt >.> I had to LOL.)

For now, though, I thought it was a decent episode, being what it was - I'm not hating it but I'm not jumping with excitement, either. I did like Ein's lead-out, which is notable for me since she's always been a rather "flat" character in my mind. I'm interested to see how well SM's new creations fare in battle, but since there's only two episodes left, I'm doubtful that they'll manage to have a huge impact on the main plot.
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Nice episode, but it was a bit slow.

Reiji did nothing at all. :-|

I like Mio more than Cal, because, as it has already been said, Cal's reason for hating Reiji is just stupid. And why the hell treating Mio like that? She did nothing. Cal's just a sad envious bitch.


Kanye West: "I will let you finish but Cal has one of the best reason of all time!!!"



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Sep 17, 2009 11:53 PM

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^ Had to laugh at that one there, BitchMaster
Sep 18, 2009 11:30 AM

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i only started watching phantom yesterday and im already up to date, its an amazing anime. Really lookin forward to next ep. 2 things im rather confused about: 1) Why the hell did cal suddenly turn so mature? she looks 20ish even tho shes like the youngest character. 2) ever since reiji stopped being phantom, he degraded, its kinda disappointing to see someone else stronger than him + i liked his old hairstyle, shudnt hav changed it T-T.

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Things would've been MUCH MUCH easier if Reiji said something like "I thought you were dead!!!" when he saw Cal all grown up for the 1st time. Cal's a jerk but she has her reasons due to Scythe's mind-bending...

No sympathy for Lizzie? Oh c'mon, she was one of the most reliable non-psychotic people in here.

Only people I really wanna see dead is Scythe Master. I mean really... >.>
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