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Oct 20, 2014 1:54 PM

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kokusho36 said:
I'm surprised that I am the only one so far that didn't like this episode at all. I don't think a serious tone fits this series.
Honestly, whenever they try to introduce parts of the lore or flesh out someone's backstory, it feels unnecessary and out of place. I just hoped for more great action and silly sketches with the characters.

I'm kind of let down, but the new zombie girl teaming up with Kaisar gives me hope for the next episodes.


I'm not sure why you thought this series didn't have a serious tone when the opening scene shows Bahamut laying waste to an entire nation, before being stopped by Gods and Demons.

Sure, there are lighthearted moments to break the tension, but this SnB isn't a comedy or something.
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i wonder how much involved NBC Universal is in this anime
Judging by how great this Anime is im guessing they had a big part of it but im just guessing
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Oct 20, 2014 2:05 PM
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Pretty abrupt ending, but forgiven for the after-credits scene. Rita a cutie.
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Definitely one of if not the best this season.
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So how did the dead girl avoided becoming a zombie? Can anyone clear that for me?


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Can we establish this as a better animated show with even better character designs than F/SN?


It undoubtedly is. F/SN can't even put eyebrows behind the hair.
Oct 20, 2014 2:08 PM

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Monad said:
So how did the dead girl avoided becoming a zombie? Can anyone clear that for me?


T3hSource said:
Can we establish this as a better animated show with even better character designs than F/SN?


It undoubtedly is. F/SN can't even put eyebrows behind the hair.


Made my day :D
Oct 20, 2014 2:13 PM

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Gr33ncar said:
dont compare the undead with the dead
P.S. this is better then SNK


Not much of a comparison.
Oct 20, 2014 2:27 PM

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This show has won my heart. A Zombie Loli Necromancer as a Main Character. Come on, there is nothing that can top that. Nothing.

This is getting better and better. Another fantastic episode.
I absolutely love the contrast between Favaro and Kaisar, and it also seems like my dream comes true, Kaisar gets his own story.
Rita is such a cutie <3


Oct 20, 2014 2:28 PM

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Art/Animation:
Brilliant as usual, no complaints, very fluid.

Music:
Great as usual, no complaints.

Story+Characters:
Pacing slowed down and they didn't throw so much at me to process, thank you show.

I like that we got some backdrop on Kaiser and I love how the show acknowledges how cliche he is. Lmao

Can't help but feel the show is a parody but of what I am not sure... This show was always a comedy first, action/adventure second, it knows full well that you can't take any of what is going on seriously. Though it did slow down when Amira was talking about when she lost her wing so the show knows when it wants you to take it seriously... even if the entire time watching it I was expecting some sort of joke... lol

I am interested in Rita's character... I thought her dying was a bit weird because I saw potential in her... then she turns out to be alive sooo... Ya... We got to know that she is a necromancer and that she plays family with the dead but I'd like to know her actual past... Even if she's an undead Loli now... lol
Oct 20, 2014 2:35 PM

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Monad said:
So how did the dead girl avoided becoming a zombie? Can anyone clear that for me?


The fact that she was already dead-ish for 200 years probably had something to do with it.
Oct 20, 2014 2:41 PM

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I wonder if having sexual intercourse with a zombie can considered necrophilia
Oct 20, 2014 2:49 PM

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Digitalcommunist said:
kokusho36 said:
I'm surprised that I am the only one so far that didn't like this episode at all. I don't think a serious tone fits this series.
Honestly, whenever they try to introduce parts of the lore or flesh out someone's backstory, it feels unnecessary and out of place. I just hoped for more great action and silly sketches with the characters.

I'm kind of let down, but the new zombie girl teaming up with Kaisar gives me hope for the next episodes.


I'm not sure why you thought this series didn't have a serious tone when the opening scene shows Bahamut laying waste to an entire nation, before being stopped by Gods and Demons.

Sure, there are lighthearted moments to break the tension, but this SnB isn't a comedy or something.


That is why I also said that when they try to introduce the lore it feels out of place and unnecessary. I would have been happier without those "epic" scenes at the start of episodes 1 and 2.
Before this episode, there was way more silliness and comedy than drama.

I just hope the show doesn't start taking itself too seriously, because then it would become a run-of-the-mill generic fantasy adventure with mandatory sad pasts and god vs devil bullshit that I'm not interested in anymore (not to mention that this is just 13 episodes, so I won't expect a lot of depth or development).

Up until episode 2 it felt a bit like a parody of itself and, in my opinion, it should continue to be that way.
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R- said:
I wonder if having sexual intercourse with a zombie can considered necrophilia

Dude wtf lol
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R- said:
I wonder if having sexual intercourse with a zombie can considered necrophilia
sex is sex.
Oct 20, 2014 2:53 PM

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kokusho36 said:
Digitalcommunist said:


I'm not sure why you thought this series didn't have a serious tone when the opening scene shows Bahamut laying waste to an entire nation, before being stopped by Gods and Demons.

Sure, there are lighthearted moments to break the tension, but this SnB isn't a comedy or something.


That is why I also said that when they try to introduce the lore it feels out of place and unnecessary. I would have been happier without those "epic" scenes at the start of episodes 1 and 2.
Before this episode, there was way more silliness and comedy than drama.

I just hope the show doesn't start taking itself too seriously, because then it would become a run-of-the-mill generic fantasy adventure with mandatory sad pasts and god vs devil bullshit that I'm not interested in anymore (not to mention that this is just 13 episodes, so I won't expect a lot of depth or development).

Up until episode 2 it felt a bit like a parody of itself and, in my opinion, it should continue to be that way.


Now that we've seen a little more of SnB I'm struck by how similar it is to the Fellowship of the Ring movie.

Both start off with an epic battle set thousands of years in the past, both have main characters who were living idyllic lives and carrying out shenanigans, and both have a mysterious stranger (Gandalf, Amira) who send the heroes on a quest to take an object of huge importance (One Ring, God Key/Amira) to a place (Mount Doom, Helheim).

I don't see the problem honestly, I'm pretty sure it will continue to get darker and more serious as it progresses, with occasional funny bits to break the tension.
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R- said:
I wonder if having sexual intercourse with a zombie can considered necrophilia


Well I wouldn't class a zombie as dead. It's an undead. So strictly speaking it isn't dead (especially since it's moving) but kind of alive so you wouldn't have sex with a corpse but with a "normal" body. So it shouldn't be necrophilia but "normal" sex.
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Digitalcommunist said:
Now that we've seen a little more of SnB I'm struck by how similar it is to the Fellowship of the Ring movie.

Both start off with an epic battle set thousands of years in the past, both have main characters who were living idyllic lives and carrying out shenanigans, and both have a mysterious stranger (Gandalf, Amira) who send the heroes on a quest to take an object of huge importance (One Ring, God Key/Amira) to a place (Mount Doom, Helheim).

I don't see the problem honestly, I'm pretty sure it will continue to get darker and more serious as it progresses, with occasional funny bits to break the tension.


The problem is that, after the epic battle set thousand of years in the past, we got people riding horses on rooftops and running on giant wheels while destroying half the city.
Then we got a moe girl that can turn into an half-naked demon, who 5 minutes later gets drunk and starts dancing.
Then a horse suddenly decides to save said moe girl from the evil... "tingling" of Jeanne d' Arc's army.

I'm sorry that I wasn't taking the story seriously.
Oct 20, 2014 3:09 PM

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This episode was pretty intense, especially with the revelation about Kaiser being tricked and all. I like that character where she seems so innocent but sadly isn't.

Liked the background Amira showed us and all that scuffle. Cerberus tho~ <3

4/5. Pretty average.
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I really like Favaro's over all attitude in this episode. I liked him before for sure, one of my favorites this season, but he could get a little bit annoying.

I'm glad they calmed him down a bit and showed how resourceful, intelligent, and surprisingly cool headed he can be. I know its wrong, but i like how he didn't really care about the girl at the end. Its a interesting change to see a protagonist in this genre be barely heroic.

For Amira it looks like she has gone back to being a little more serious like in the first episode, while still having that cute obliviousness. In episode 2 I thought her personality changed out of nowhere, but I understand her a bit better now as a character.

I love how they shoot scenes. I read on a article somewhere that they use a lot of western, hollywood cinematic techniques in comparison to eastern. I can definitely see it this episode.

a lot of cool looking scenes. The fight with the zombies, the opening shots of the forest kaiser falls in, the dust and win with jeeane and the knights, it just looks visually interesting and unique
Oct 20, 2014 3:12 PM
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Kaisar got tricked by Rita.

I really like Amira's backstory.

Rita is staying as an undead.
Oct 20, 2014 3:12 PM
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I was never into Necromancer Stuff, but somehow Rita got me =). Still dont Like Favaro at all, Kaisar and Amira are nice =) 3/4 so far. Iam expecting quite something from this Anime. Not a mindblow after finishing it but it can manage it into my fav animes this year =) if it keeps up this pace =)
Oct 20, 2014 3:13 PM
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FroG1986 said:
I was never into Necromancer Stuff, but somehow Rita got me =). Still dont Like Favaro at all, Kaisar and Amira are nice =) 3/4 so far. Iam expecting quite something from this Anime. Not a mindblow after finishing it but it can manage it into my fav animes this year =) if it keeps up this pace =)
Dang I liked him a lot this episode, Favaro I mean.
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Keten said:
Art/Animation:
Brilliant as usual, no complaints, very fluid.

Music:
Great as usual, no complaints.

Story+Characters:
Pacing slowed down and they didn't throw so much at me to process, thank you show.

I like that we got some backdrop on Kaiser and I love how the show acknowledges how cliche he is. Lmao

Can't help but feel the show is a parody but of what I am not sure... This show was always a comedy first, action/adventure second, it knows full well that you can't take any of what is going on seriously. Though it did slow down when Amira was talking about when she lost her wing so the show knows when it wants you to take it seriously... even if the entire time watching it I was expecting some sort of joke... lol

I am interested in Rita's character... I thought her dying was a bit weird because I saw potential in her... then she turns out to be alive sooo... Ya... We got to know that she is a necromancer and that she plays family with the dead but I'd like to know her actual past... Even if she's an undead Loli now... lol


I'd say it was a fantasy adventure first and a comedy second, especially the first and third episode.
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This show is a lot better than F/SN right now.
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kokusho36 said:


The problem is that, after the epic battle set thousand of years in the past, we got people riding horses on rooftops and running on giant wheels while destroying half the city.
Then we got a moe girl that can turn into an half-naked demon, who 5 minutes later gets drunk and starts dancing.
Then a horse suddenly decides to save said moe girl from the evil... "tingling" of Jeanne d' Arc's army.

I'm sorry that I wasn't taking the story seriously.


Sounds more like you can't separate things for what is supposed to be serious and what isn't based on context. The bold were comedic at all regardless of how outlandish it might. Favaro and Kaisar were seriously trying kill each other, what around them doesn't mean damn. Story doesn't need to be 90% depressing to be taken seriously. If you understand that than you going have a hard time enjoying this series.
Oct 20, 2014 3:27 PM

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Amira is really nice, and the ED is, too.

Also: Even if Amira is half angel/demon..there is usually a dinstinction between angel and god. They even showed the obvious difference in power between those random "vanguard" goons and a full-fledged and named god.

Either they have enough gods that one can simply sneak off (e.g., the roma/greek and norse pantheons among others), or the distiction isn't as bad, as in, simply being of celestial origin is enough.

Which makes me wonder what lazy security system the gods use with a half-angel being able to simply deactivate it. If the thought that someone random will simply deactivate it i wonder why they used something like that in the first place - i assume one does not walk (or fly?) simply into heaven (or the underworld) there.

Amira is also quite capable of taking care of herself without resorting to her demon form. Why does she have a demon form in the first place, though, and not a angel/god form? Unless ofc she does...
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Jagd84 said:
kokusho36 said:


The problem is that, after the epic battle set thousand of years in the past, we got people riding horses on rooftops and running on giant wheels while destroying half the city.
Then we got a moe girl that can turn into an half-naked demon, who 5 minutes later gets drunk and starts dancing.
Then a horse suddenly decides to save said moe girl from the evil... "tingling" of Jeanne d' Arc's army.

I'm sorry that I wasn't taking the story seriously.


Sounds more like you can't separate things for what is supposed to be serious and what isn't based on context. The bold were comedic at all regardless of how outlandish it might. Favaro and Kaisar were seriously trying kill each other, what around them doesn't mean damn. Story doesn't need to be 90% depressing to be taken seriously. If you understand that than you going have a hard time enjoying this series.


There's a difference between a upbeat yet serious story and being ridiculous one moment and serious the next. I never looked at this show seriously at all, it's ridiculously over the top. It does slow down when it needs to but for the most part it makes fun of itself. Not to say it's impossible to take seriously but it definitely isn't anything "mature" or "deep". It's not trying to be either so it's fine.

This show is testosterone filled, rule of cool in a medieval/fantasy setting that makes fun of itself and nothing more really. Heck, Kaiser sat down and had a quiet serious talk about his past with Rita and she just complains about how cliche and boring his story was. lol
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A perfect episode through and through!
Oct 20, 2014 3:52 PM

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Keten said:
There's a difference between a upbeat yet serious story and being ridiculous one moment and serious the next. I never looked at this show seriously at all, it's ridiculously over the top. It does slow down when it needs to but for the most part it makes fun of itself. Not to say it's impossible to take seriously but it definitely isn't anything "mature" or "deep". It's not trying to be either so it's fine.

This show is testosterone filled, rule of cool in a medieval/fantasy setting that makes fun of itself and nothing more really. Heck, Kaiser sat down and had a quiet serious talk about his past with Rita and she just complains about how cliche and boring his story was. lol


Oh, I definitely was not trying to say this is some kind of Magnum Opus work, just that I saw parallels to Fellowship in the way the plot is progressing; and that the tone is getting darker as the series progresses.

Bolded the part I agree with the most.
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Keten said:

There's a difference between a upbeat yet serious story and being ridiculous one moment and serious the next. I never looked at this show seriously at all, it's ridiculously over the top. It does slow down when it needs to but for the most part it makes fun of itself. Not to say it's impossible to take seriously but it definitely isn't anything "mature" or "deep". It's not trying to be either so it's fine.l


A fantasy story about gods and demons being over the top? Who knew?!

This show is testosterone filled, rule of cool in a medieval/fantasy setting that makes fun of itself and nothing more really. Heck, Kaiser sat down and had a quiet serious talk about his past with Rita and she just complains about how cliche and boring his story was. lol


You see this what you and the other guy don't seem to get. Rita found it boring because she does. She not interested in Kaisar's past (at least that point) that's it. Whether you found that moment funny or not does change that it is within her nature to say such things. Furthermore you can be amused and still feel for something at the time. It was done to lighten the heavy tone of in the first place.

Fact of the matter is that this show has been balancing light comedy and serious so far. It's been gradually becoming more and more darker as series goes on naturally, as factions begin their move. It's been obvious from day one that was going to happen.
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Decent episode, but probably the weakest so far.
The sound effects kept bugging me or more precisely their absence.
5 main aspects I base my ratings on:
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2. Is it better than Breaking Bad?
3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it?
4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL?
5. Is it actually good?

Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant...
Oct 20, 2014 4:05 PM

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Third episode in... still disliking the douche main character and his stupid hair.

Really wanted to like Kaiser this episode but he still seems like your typical noble brat (even with his backstory), instead of a actual knight (his hair also...).

Well, atleast the now undead necromancer Rita is interesting, unlike the nothing-character that the demon girl is.
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Jagd84 said:

You see this what you and the other guy don't seem to get. Rita found it boring because she does. She not interested in Kaisar's past (at least that point) that's it. Whether you found that moment funny or not does change that it is within her nature to say such things. Furthermore you can be amused and still feel for something at the time. It was done to lighten the heavy tone of in the first place.

Fact of the matter is that this show has been balancing light comedy and serious so far. It's been gradually becoming more and more darker as series goes on naturally, as factions begin their move. It's been obvious from day one that was going to happen.


The 2nd episode was funnier and more ridiculous than the first 1 though... So it isn't really "gradually" becoming more darker as it goes on. If the 2nd episode was funnier and more joke heavy than the first and there are only 3 episodes out so far, that kind of destroys your speculation doesn't it...? Not saying you are wrong obviously, maybe it will get darker as it goes on from here and if it does that would be fine. I won't deny that this episode was a lot quieter and slower and took itself more seriously yes but it still had the humor and still had the action.

If it kept the pace and tone of this episode throughout the rest of the series I would actually enjoy it a lot but continuously getting darker? I doubt that but we shall see.
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Keten said:
Jagd84 said:

You see this what you and the other guy don't seem to get. Rita found it boring because she does. She not interested in Kaisar's past (at least that point) that's it. Whether you found that moment funny or not does change that it is within her nature to say such things. Furthermore you can be amused and still feel for something at the time. It was done to lighten the heavy tone of in the first place.

Fact of the matter is that this show has been balancing light comedy and serious so far. It's been gradually becoming more and more darker as series goes on naturally, as factions begin their move. It's been obvious from day one that was going to happen.


The 2nd episode was funnier and more ridiculous than the first 1 though... So it isn't really "gradually" becoming more darker as it goes on. If the 2nd episode was funnier and more joke heavy than the first and there are only 3 episodes out so far, that kind of destroys your speculation doesn't it...? Not saying you are wrong obviously, maybe it will get darker as it goes on from here and if it does that would be fine. I won't deny that this episode was a lot quieter and slower and took itself more seriously yes but it still had the humor and still had the action.

If it kept the pace and tone of this episode throughout the rest of the series I would actually enjoy it a lot but continuously getting darker? I doubt that but we shall see.


Um no? To began with your exaggerating how comedic the 2nd episode was. Yes it had moments where you see Favaro making funny faces and Amira getting drunk, but it also had ruined mansion full of corpses, Favaro selling her out, and Knights trying to kill her. In otherwords it's been a mixture both light and serious parts. Nothing wrong with that as a lot of stories have played our similarly. As one other poster mentioned LOTR is good example.
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Jagd84 said:

Um no? To began with your exaggerating how comedic the 2nd episode was. Yes it had moments where you see Favaro making funny faces and Amira getting, but had ruined mansion full of corpses, Favaro selling her out, and Knights trying to kill her. In otherwords it's been a mixture both light and serious parts. Nothing wrong with that as a lot of stories have played our similar. As one other poster mentioned LOTR is good example.


Those things are not serious... I think you might be confused as to what people mean when they say they don't take the series seriously.

Corpses and betrayal are not serious by themselves, it depends on execution if they are serious or not. For example, if a person died because they were stabbed, fell over and there was a real quiet moment with lots of tension and catharsis that lead to growth in the characters then it's serious but if a person died by getting their arms cut off and screamed like a mad man and fell over over-dramatically, that is ridiculous. The corpses were not played up to be scary or serious, they were just there to build the setting and set up for whatever was about to go down. The betrayal had to do with the characters and it didn't lead to any serious character drama or anything, in fact, they did it in a rather goofy way, especially since all it built up to was the horse rushing to save Amira, beating the crap out of the knights and Amira going, "It tingled 8D". When she was about to get stabbed as well, all that built up to was Kaiser showing up and them having a slapstick comedic fight followed by Kaisers wonderfully over the top, "FAVAROOOOO!!!".

Most things(Not all but most) are over the top or humorously done in shingeki no bahamut and I think you may be the only one arguing against that but hey, I am not here to ruin your enjoyment, it's a good show, I like it a lot so far. We haven't had any significant death scenes, realistically mature imagery, mature character building moments or themes brought up and explored in a mature way yet so no, there are no serious things in the anime yet really. Many times it could have been serious but then it interrupts it with silly jokes or ridiculously over the top action scenes that come out of no where.

Again though, not dissing the anime, I am just watching it for different reasons than you are.
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I definitely don't see this as lighthearted and non-serious (is that even a word?) as some of you. I can take this series seriously, and definitely don't think it's a parody in any shape or form. It's a high fantasy type adventure with some comedic moments, honestly. I'm not even sure the comedy is prevalent enough to warrant a comedy tag (which is currently doesn't have).
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I definitely don't see this as lighthearted and non-serious (is that even a word?) as some of you. I can take this series seriously, and definitely don't think it's a parody in any shape or form. It's a high fantasy type adventure with some comedic moments, honestly. I'm not even sure the comedy is prevalent enough to warrant a comedy tag (which is currently doesn't have).


That's cool man, I think the series is hilarious and exciting rather than anything serious or brutal. They gloss over anything that could be considered brutal and replace it with silly faces and over the top action. Regardless, if a person can take it seriously I don't see there being anything wrong with that, I don't really see anything inherently wrong with the show... besides maybe some pacing issues now and then but that's just me I guess.
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Keten said:
ex_necross said:
I definitely don't see this as lighthearted and non-serious (is that even a word?) as some of you. I can take this series seriously, and definitely don't think it's a parody in any shape or form. It's a high fantasy type adventure with some comedic moments, honestly. I'm not even sure the comedy is prevalent enough to warrant a comedy tag (which is currently doesn't have).


That's cool man, I think the series is hilarious and exciting rather than anything serious or brutal. They gloss over anything that could be considered brutal and replace it with silly faces and over the top action. Regardless, if a person can take it seriously I don't see there being anything wrong with that, I don't really see anything inherently wrong with the show... besides maybe some pacing issues now and then but that's just me I guess.


I don't think it's serious and brutal as in Berserk or anything, but I don't think its like Fumoffu silliness either.

It feels like a Gantz or Black Lagoon level of seriousness... that is to say.. eh.. 70% seriousness.
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ex_necross said:


I don't think it's serious and brutal as in Berserk or anything, but I don't think its like Fumoffu silliness either.


Well obviously it's not THAT silly. It does restrain itself but I wouldn't go as far to say it takes itself all that seriously either. The first episode had them surfing on a giant watermill. Plus... it did have that scene where the demon is stuck in the ground and a dog just randomly walks up to it, licks it and walks away. It's pretty silly sometimes. lol

This episode was a bit different though, it took itself more seriously and was more self contained than usual and I gotta say, it did a good job. I kind of hope the rest of the episodes are like this one.
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Keten said:
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I don't think it's serious and brutal as in Berserk or anything, but I don't think its like Fumoffu silliness either.


Well obviously it's not THAT silly. It does restrain itself but I wouldn't go as far to say it takes itself all that seriously either. The first episode had them surfing on a giant watermill. Plus... it did have that scene where the demon is stuck in the ground and a dog just randomly walks up to it, licks it and walks away. It's pretty silly sometimes. lol

This episode was a bit different though, it took itself more seriously and was more self contained than usual and I gotta say, it did a good job. I kind of hope the rest of the episodes are like this one.


I feel like the plot is serious, the setting is serious, and the MC is a fucking goofball half the time. At least the action scenes stay serious, no dumb interruptions with some lame ass joke. Once the fight is over though, then comes a joke from Favaro lol.

I don't know. It's a bit of both. But it's not like self aware silly.
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ex_necross said:
Keten said:


Well obviously it's not THAT silly. It does restrain itself but I wouldn't go as far to say it takes itself all that seriously either. The first episode had them surfing on a giant watermill. Plus... it did have that scene where the demon is stuck in the ground and a dog just randomly walks up to it, licks it and walks away. It's pretty silly sometimes. lol

This episode was a bit different though, it took itself more seriously and was more self contained than usual and I gotta say, it did a good job. I kind of hope the rest of the episodes are like this one.


I feel like the plot is serious, the setting is serious, and the MC is a fucking goofball half the time. At least the action scenes stay serious, no dumb interruptions with some lame ass joke. Once the fight is over though, then comes a joke from Favaro lol.

I don't know. It's a bit of both. But it's not like self aware silly.


Well... Ya... I don't think it's immensely self aware in the way something like Jojo is. I do think it's a bit self aware just in the way the characters react to each other. Regardless ya, I like that once the action starts there is usually no interruptions with the exception of the water mill fight obviously. It knows when to do humor and when not to do humor. I guess it's because the action is over the top and the jokes are hilarious to me that those are the things I remember the most about the episode so I label it as an over the top comedy rather than an action/adventure.

All I can say though is that I like the show a lot so far and as long as they flesh out the characters more and maybe develop them(though in 13 episodes that is difficult to do when they put in so much action) then this will definitely be one of the highlights of the season for me. This season is so kickass so far.
Oct 20, 2014 5:53 PM

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Keten said:

All I can say though is that I like the show a lot so far and as long as they flesh out the characters more and maybe develop them(though in 13 episodes that is difficult to do when they put in so much action) then this will definitely be one of the highlights of the season for me. This season is so kickass so far.


Yeah. It's a fucking awesome show and definitely my AOTS, which I would have never expected. If it stays this good throughout, I would have a hard time justifying anything lower than a 9, and I don't give out 9's very often.
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FAVAROOOOOOOO.

I loved the foggy town scenes. Man, that setting was beautiful. It reminds me of Resident Evil 4.

A solid episode. Pretty good so far.
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Solid episode. I continue to love how straight they're playing these high fantasy tropes: we've got angels, we've got demons, we've got holy knights, scoundrels, fallen nobles and now necromancers! I don't think I've even heard the word 'necromancer' in an anime before and lemme' just say, it tickles my inner DND nerd just so.

This is adventure at its finest right here folks, and today's episode is further proof that this show will continue to be good ol' fashioned fun.

One more thing, I love how zombie Rita just suddenly has the perfect getup for an undead loli-mage -- complete with skull umbrella!
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holy crap, the world they live in is messed up! I genuinely felt bad for that girl who "played family" for 200 years. but i didn't expect her to be able to control herself as a zombie
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Great episode yet again. Nice side story.
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Solid episode, sure, but nothing too far above average other than the art and art direction (both of which are 9's for me right now).
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favoro and amira continue to have some of the best on screen chemistry of the season, this episode made me like kaiser alot more as he'd barely gotten much attention given to him up until this point. Great episode and showed a more serious side to the series which i was fully expecting eventually given the creator's previous outing tiger and bunny which excelled at balancing the comedy and drama as it went along even though the drama did eventually overtake the comedy in the end i see this one probably being more on the comedy side

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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so the loli girl survived afterall lol
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Awesome again, this is just consistently bringing it. That action was nuts, that's how you animate a zombie eradication. I think we're getting closer to bringing the plot full circle with the talk about the God Key disturbing the balance. We just need to know more about Amira and where her motives lie. But the whole "I wonder who she'll give the Key to" line is a bit more interesting now, and could imply something really good(for Favaro) or something really bad(for Amira).

I loved the focus on Kaisar, he needed it after the last episode giving the other two most of the screentime and characterization. I liked how they tied in Rita's "issues'' with her parents to segue into his backstory and past issues with his parents, it was the best way to explain his dramatic, stubborn yet passionate character.

I wonder if Favaro was involved with the bandits that stole the tribute that got Kaisar's father hanged.




Keten said:

There's a difference between a upbeat yet serious story and being ridiculous one moment and serious the next. I never looked at this show seriously at all, it's ridiculously over the top. It does slow down when it needs to but for the most part it makes fun of itself. Not to say it's impossible to take seriously but it definitely isn't anything "mature" or "deep". It's not trying to be either so it's fine.

This show is testosterone filled, rule of cool in a medieval/fantasy setting that makes fun of itself and nothing more really. Heck, Kaiser sat down and had a quiet serious talk about his past with Rita and she just complains about how cliche and boring his story was. lol
Pretty much this. The show doesn't take itself seriously, but it seems to take its characters seriously, so there's always room for serious development. It's a really nice formula that could pull off something great if it develops its characters while still maintaining the same style and atmosphere. I think whether it does that or not and how it goes about developing the characters in a way that's relevant to the story will tell us if is mature and deep. I think it has the tools to do so and has done a great job of getting the ball rolling with its characters. The plot's just so up in the air it's hard to gauge right now.
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