| Was Eureka Seven AO a bad anime series ? If you ask all the fans they all say "yes", "It ruined the original", "It's Crap" and bull shit like that. But Why is it so bad? Is it bad because you wanted something more similar to the original? However the thing that most fans can not accept that it's a good anime. You're all probably going to rage at me but let me say first it's a bad sequel but a good anime. As a Sequel it falls short of answering questions of the previous series and yes i will admit that's disappointing. But just as a general anime it's great, sure they needed more time to flesh out the characters (Original being 50 and AO being 24) but the action, music, plot (well that depends) and generally the feel is great and it stands to reckon as a Shonen archetype. It doesn't try to be what's its not and because of that it succeeds as anime. So ask yourself what was so bad about Eureka 7 AO ? And post it if you can prove cos i disagree with it being a crap anime. |
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| You can't judge a series by not watching. First you need to experience it all. I wouldn't really describe it more action orientated. The best way too look at is in Eureka 7 they focuses on more of how things happened in AO it's more of what and why they happen. It's a different and refreshing take. The romance is there but it's left rather ambiguous. But the drama arises from different aspects that aren't same the to original mainly being the conflict between characters due to culture groups and other factors. I went into AO expecting something bad but i was surprised when it actually turned out good. I recommend you watch it before judging. If so i could do the same thing and say "I've heard that all Arabic people are bad and terrorists so i hate them . . ." |
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necrojesta said: Most of the issues raised in reviews stand true regardless of the previous series. If you account for these issues and don't regard it as a 'bad sequel' you're still left with a mediocre anime worth about 7-7.5. .....7-7.5 is a good score. Mediocre is 5. |
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Z-flame said: ^ The show wasn't even mediocre Yep it was fine, had flaws and stupid moments but was above average so I gave it a 6/10. The original Eureka Seven was better but still had a lot of flaws. I gave it a 7/10. |
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| The posts I've written about why it is bad are far too long for copy over here, so here are links: - Why Eureka Seven AO is Bad #01 – When Shallow Characters Dominate - Why Eureka Seven AO is Bad #02 – A Story That Never Really Matters, Identity Crisis and Other Things - Why Eureka Seven AO is Bad #03 (End) – It Goes Against Everything Eureka Seven Stood For They are divided into different parts, so anyone can read them (except the third post). To make it short, Eureka Seven AO is bad a series itself. It doesn't really do anything with its world or characters. And the second half completely relies on the original series to create anything with substance. The fact that it fails as a sequel is nothing that affects my score (2/10), but it is a big shame in itself. Simply put: it goes against everything the original stood for. |
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| well it was an OK-good anime but it completely sucked as a sequel. I mean we have nnangle said: Haven't seen it, personally [because of all the bad reviews and because i loved the original], but in my opinion what made Eureka Seven was the romance and the drama, the action was secondary. If this series dropped those aspects then i see it as crap. That's just me, though. that's also a problem. those that have seen AO can't deny that the romance to which you had grown accustomed in Eureka Seven was missing although there were quite a few possibilities Well that was enough getting angry about anime for today. Feel free to answer me if you share my opinion or have a different viewpoint. I'm going to watch this thread so I'll probably reply ;) |
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| Yes, kill it with fire. I hate this show more than anything, and words cannot even begin to describe how much I loathe this "show". You have... -A completely incoherent plot with NO COHESION -A plot that is really, really poorly paced -Characters with ZERO development, only good thing was a few had good personalities, otherwise they're all shit -So many plot holes that outnumber the number of holes on a strainer And I could keep going. Total fail of a show. |
BigOnAnimeFeb 21, 2013 6:04 PM
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| Terrible. I'm a fan of the Original, but holy shit... |
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| Personally I thought it was pretty good. I fell in love with Eureka Seven and was a little disappointed with AO. However, I dont think it was a bad anime. All I have seen are comments like "good job bones" or "you killed Eureka Seven" They are almost completely different! I must say, I wanted to see more of Eureka, Renton, and Ao together but that is no reason to hate the anime. Here's what I liked: - the action scenes were excellent - I thought the plot was Ok - Just like Eureka Seven the music was fantastic - The OVA was awesome and very Nostalgic Here's what I disliked: - Poor Character building, it seemed like after building a character the Quartz gun would just wipe them of the script - Very confusing with time travel - A lack of love <3 - The ending seemed thrown together but was still quite good - Only 24 Episodes (Felt Very Rushed) - Ao essentially erased everything that happened in the anime As you can see my con list is quite longer than the pro but none the less I still thought Eureka Seven AO was great. I really want to see a true sequel to Eureka Seven :D |
| No. And yes, but generally no. The series definitely didn't need something like that following it up, but it did. Since it did, it still wasn't a very solid show in the end. Everything fell apart and the story was a tad mundane to start with. The fact that half the show was ignored at the conclusion pretty much infuriated everyone past the brink of no return. As a stand alone it's less then average, as a sequel it's maddening. If your a fan of the original you're better off pretending this doesn't exist. |
| It's to see more people replying, i'm not trying to start a flame war but a debate. However i feel that the main factor that held it down was the fact it only had 24 episodes opposed to the 50+ episodes which Eureka 7 had. With more episodes they could've fleshed out there character much more, i understand that they wanted Ao to feel deep about what he does/did but Sunrise gets no points for an almost. Eureka Ao is less of a sequel and more of a homage to the original and from a marketing point of view this was quite successful as it was aimed Pre teens to teens as well as trying to incorporate the original fan base. I also felt that it had a similar feeling to Gundam in some aspects as the politics was quite deep and intriguing. Note though by good i mean it rages in the 7 - 8, Mediocre is 5 - 6 and great is 9. The ending was rather disappointing but the one thing it does do is closure. By that i mean that we understand that Eurka and renton return their own universe whilst own universe returns to normal and everyone "leads a normal life." As much as i dislike the ending it did give closure to the characters of the series (being Ao). I felt the quatz gun could have been used to greater affect with Ao trying to struggle against his guilty conscious because he used it. They tried to convey this but alas only one episode is not enough. This is one anime that is a typical shonnen anime and doesn't try to be anything more. Alas the general consensus is that it was ok ranging from a 6 - 7 in rating with people saying it could be more. This has changed my perception of what people think of AO now. |
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BHancock said: Marow over there wasted effort over nostalgia. All the detractors saying it was bad and that it deserved 2/10 just wanted to see E7 once again and not E7 AO. I loved the original too, but you were just raging because you: - Didn't understand the plot. Well too bad, I did and some others. Your loss for having middle-school brains that claim you love complex plots but can't delve deeper than typical shounen and poorly executed twists. - Nostalgia'd. As far as BONES was concerned Renton and Eureka's story was done. There was nothing to be added to their story anymore. Who wants to watch their married life anyway? If you're telling me they could have expounded on the Scab x Human relationship, did everyone know Eureka was Scab? No they didn't, so that premise is worthless. - Wanted more romance. Guess what, we had lots of that, except they were all either one-sided (Fleur, Naru) or tragic (Renton, Eureka, Ao). - Wanted a happy ending. You're not gonna get everything you want, so suck it up and move on. I rated this series a 7 for decent, but all you detractors who keep adding fan fiction scenarios to an already completed plot (and say that they can do a better job than BONES) can all go suck a lollipop. I'm really tempted to rate this a 10 just because of you. The only thing I wanted was more episodes, and it seems like it should have gone that way. The series intertwining plots could have been more fleshed out. +1 |
| To be honest it was better than Eureka 7 . |
| if you like science fiction that focuses on time travel or parallel universes story then you will enjoy Eureka 7 AO and its more plot driven story, but if you prefer character driven story like the first Eureka 7 anime has then you will say Eureka 7 AO sucks |
| I'm at episode 11, the story is a mess |
| It was bloody awful. Even standing it on it's own merits without looking at past E7s it's bad. Jumbled up plot, horrid characters, and moot points. It. Was. Awful. Dropped it at episode 10/24 |
| I wrote in another post about it I'll just copy here and edit and add some I have trouble expressing how I feel and it is the best I have.Warning minor spoilers and I don't know how to work the spoiler tag, when to use or much of anything else cause I'm a complete noob to everything internet and slowly learning. As a sequel its horrible but as a stand alone series it is just plain bad it copies off popular series.the first half is Evangelion,Diebuster and Infinite Stratos put together, the second half is Diebuster and Steins; Gate and remove names of characters, groups and the events of most episodes 4 and after are similar to RahXephon especially when the when the Christophe and the commander of Terra die. And the ending of the show is just plain horrible. Renton and Eureka don't get a happy ending any kids they have will die do to trapar being deadly to Hybrids. After watching Ao I thought it reminded me of Rahxephon and rewatched it to verify and boy was I right, a lot of key plot points are similar to almost identical. The eva influence and has been stated before. Diebuster mainly because of the secrets there more like the monsters in here than the angels in eva, also the lead senior pilot an idol and the other girl I don't remember so much being a crazy singer. Finally I picked Infinite Stratos mainly because of mech series with harem and standard generic male protagonist, Steins; Gate is the clear and has been said before. And then that thing with the daughter was the final nail in the coffin for me. Trapar does not do that the only 2 times it was dangerous was to Sakuya who you could say is no longer a Coralian I think she even says she would be gone if Norb had not have called her name and probably grabbed that compac like thing in her chest. And than the other time was said by Holland and Mischa in the mine about if they had been there when they [the diggers] were digging they [Gekkostate] would have gone insane, I too it like Mako in final fantasy 7. And I hard the 2 kids on the final DVD cover with the surf boards and the 1 with the wings were really their children.Fan at a con asked hard this a while ago so not so clear. Really they could not be happy and have kids that don't die horribly. Watching Ao made me feel ill, sick to my stomach and just plain mad. Feeling I have not felt since a very bad time in my life which watching the original helped get me through. So was it that bad? Yes one of the worst things I have watch in a very long time. My disappointment in this series is worst than how I felt at the end of Gundam Seed Destiny. |
Aqua_ElevenApr 30, 2013 10:19 PM
| My opinion on the show was that it'd be an alright anime if it didn't follow a Classic like Eureka Seven. I generally love most of the work I've seen from BONES, but this was a disappointment from BONES and Eureka Seven.I love the idea of Renton fighting back against what the world had decided from Him and Eureka. This sequel should have had more thought put into it. Eureka Seven was a love story that used drama to deepen it and action to support it. Eureka Seven AO just used the terminology and then cropped in whatever they want. I think that the sequel needs to be scrapped and/or turned into a side story. It has no place being Eureka Seven's sequel. |
| I don't know, I've only seen 14 episodes so far, but I'm liking it, but I guess that just shows how bad my tastes are, as I was one of the few who actually liked Pocket ga Niji de Ippai a lot. |
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Ascius said: I don't know, I've only seen 14 episodes so far, but I'm liking it, but I guess that just shows how bad my tastes are, as I was one of the few who actually liked Pocket ga Niji de Ippai a lot. I just want to tell you that it the movie was either a side story or before the Eureka Seven Series, so you can like it anyway. I do think it was a nice love story, but I would have liked to see different characters ( atleast it would have added to it). |
| Eureka 7: AO was pointless and unwarnted. They were better off just making a new anime, and not dragging down the orignal. |
| I was saying Ao was an "OK" anime of it was a sequel to Eureka Seven and just a side story or alternate setting story. But what the actual hell. I just found out that apparently Renton stopped caring about if his relationship with Eureka would get ruined as long as he could kill the sub coral that he swore to protect, because of his first daughter dying( apparently it damaged his mental state). AND also he didn't care fully that Ao would hate him. Renton IS NOT and NEVER would be someone like that. Wasn't the fifty episodes we watched proof of that? The count in the over bearing amount of inconsistencies ? It honestly begs the question, if they watched the original before making this, and for what purpose did they make this. If none of the characters were from Eureka Seven, didn't say Eureka Seven in the title, and it didn't use any of the terminology, maybe just maybe it could have been a decent anime. I just think they wanted to use our love for this show and the terminology and the characters to tell some crappy story that they didn't even fully develop. I could actually write something way better than this as a sequel given the proper team. |
| Thought it was okay, the ending... was rushed. What happened with Fluer after the 3rd engine suddenly activated, is my biggest question. I also personally think the idea that a human/corallian hybrid dying from trapar is the dumbest part of the whole show! Trapar radiation is the thoughts of the scubs, humans survive with no problem (with the exception of "desperation sickness", which just appears to be them in a trance) AO is half scub, so why would he die from trapar if both races have NO BIOLOGICAL ISSUES WITH IT! It's the biggest plot hole to me, and pisses me off to no end. |
| The ending was terrible. |
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littlebigbrick said: Here's what I disliked: - Poor Character building, it seemed like after building a character the Quartz gun would just wipe them of the script - Very confusing with time travel - A lack of love <3 - The ending seemed thrown together but was still quite good - Only 24 Episodes (Felt Very Rushed) - Ao essentially erased everything that happened in the anime I srsly agree with u on these points , 24 episodes is not enough [felt very rushed] the time travelling shit is damn confusing and so is the ending of the anime , actually i had to read so many other articles to understand the ending xD xD And when Ao fired the last shot of the quartz gun it just f*****g erased the story of the past 23 episodes[WTF ?]........and Eureka Seven also had that love hint to it....and i srsly thought Ao and Fleur would make something happen between them.....but no attention was paid to it at all !? And also how can character building take place when the quartz gun changes everything every time it is fired ?? I think it's a way the author came up to cancel out a character if he wanted so xD |
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dragonedge1 said: However is a sequel to AO was to be made (and this time done properly; in its own time) and that sequel did not take the viewers through a sad and lonely tale of Ao meeting people he knew and nobody remembering him; or him discovering new friends AO was not that bad. Still; I actually wouldn't mind a sequel where people had forgotten him (maybe not Fleur) but there was a way he could rewrite the books and get them to remember their experiences of him in Astral Ocean; now that could be interesting; especially if his ultimate goal was to get Fleur to remember him; I could watch a long anime of that. I too thought that something was going to happen between Fleur and Ao but the author didn't even move things forward between them not even a bit.......but the manga's over anyway so i think there can be no sequel to Ao even though i think i wanted one......it will be interesting to see if Fleur remembers Ao[if there is a sequel] |
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