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| well if anything, we sure did get a good explanation on the the croce di pietro works. and lmao, Style thinking about loli teacher...haha, that was priceless. And we even got some windex....and kuroko staring at the breasts of misaka's mother...priceless :3 and the next episode....Touma finally gets to punch a girl!  |
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| :Yaaaawwwwnnnn: Felt like the episode never wanted to end, and Toumas "half-assed speech" at the end really was just too much. God talk about a boring pointless waste of time. Not the kind of show you want to watch with a pressing hangover... |
| Touma's speech at the end felt rather flat compared to original. But i'm too pleased with animated Oriana(or her boobs) to mind it atm. |
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Wasabi said: alexcampos said: So, apparently the Cross is supposed to have some sort of power and Ms. BIG TITS is going to use it for evil deeds...that's it, I guess. I wouldn't necessarily call what they're trying to accomplish "evil." Just a very warped sense of justification. Oriana and Lidvia even felt remorse for getting Himegami injured. And seriously, wtf Touma? Is he really that simple minded and stupid? I was expecting some self righteous dribble coming out of his ass but really? It was even worse than that. LOLOLZ I WONT LET YOU RUINZ THE FESTIVAAALLLL. Really? REALLY? Apparently Touma is too dumb to see any big picture other than what he sees in front of him. I was thinking the same. When he just mentioned the festival i was like: "Eh? is this guy serious? That's the best he could come up with? ". Sucrose said: If only this were live action, How enticing would Oriana be aye? Has it ever cross your mind that she is able to be so enticing because she isn't live action? kevin_video said: I do feel bad for Index though. What with Touma having to keep her out of the loop. Well you may feel bad for Index but that makes me feel good for the sake of my mental health since i will avoid seeing her annoying presence. |
| Got to say the conversations of Orsola/Tsuchimikado/Touma and Komoe/Touma's parents were great! OST was amazing once again especially during Orsola/Tsuchimikado/Touma, Fukiyose/Komoe and the battle of Magnus/Touma against Oriana. The background information was particularly good too in this one. Having Tsuchimikado shining through out so far makes my day as in first season he was given shit all but the good stuff of this season. Got to admit some of sceneries blew me off like the library during Orsola's part. It also was good comedy during Misaka's mom intro to Kuroko, particularly her reaction. It was quite funny. Magnus's face getting face kicked in the spoiler  I want to see her like that and soon during this season! She was made so much more evil and better than first season. Make ehr come as a bad guy and bring it on Touma! Quite the good episode in the end with that fight. |
Yumekichi11Dec 26, 2010 9:30 PM
| >_> the pace is good and not good u_u Only good thing that happened here was the bit of fighting in the end...AND i hope Touma would STFU~ And i don't really understand what exactly is happening T>T... I am getting pretty annoyed by Index lately, she isn't need at all in this arc i guess... And Kuroko is one crazy ass Lesbian o.o well can't say she has bad taste XD Next week moooooore Oriana <3333 |
DenjaX said: I think in regards to all this that Japs should not write shit that will have people angry at them and yeah I am Catholic too but entertainment always makes fun of things and this is exactly what this is. So it can't be really help other than a watch it or don't watch it. @ Wasabi, Touma answered his concern for the festival because of what happened to Himegami and he had that in the head. That was obvious more than anything else. It was also a attempt to show him like that because of that trauma, he did mention Fukiyose and Himegami, which are both in the festival. |
| It looks as if Touma gets dumber with each and every episode. Animation's also gone down the drain since the first arc... Hopefully Touma punches the hell outta Oriana soon and we move on to a better arc. Preferably with more Biribiri, because as it stands both Railgun and the first season of Index are both quite a lot better than the mediocre mess I'm watching now. |
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DenjaX said: When your making a story about religion it's hard not to offend someone especially if that story is directed at a large group of people.Xardie said: I'm starting to feel bad for poor Catholics. Sure they've done lots of wacky shit through the history but this season's amount of crazy Catholics planning world dominance has gone through the roof. Japs shouldn't write about stuff they don't know anything about (I'm not Catholic btw). Bit about St. Peter choosing the day he died was pretty hilarious too. Well, I'm a Catholic and I was kinda pissed when they made Catholic church bad since the nun arc though I'm impressed about making a good storyline with biblical stuffs involved especially the Latin language (lol im contradicting myself xDD) I really can't tell if Peter really died on June 29 since that's his feast day... The upside-down cross was portrayed as well even though it's a sword o.o Religion is just a touchy subject. The reason why the Catholics where picket as one of the religions this story is about is probably because it's one of the larger religions in the world but a rather small one in Japan itself. About the sword. At the start of this arc they where calling it the Stab sword with which supposedly Jesus was killed. But if i recall it right Jesus wasn't killed by a sword but by a spear, yet i didn't read any comments about that. And latter it turned into Saint Peters cross. And like you mentioned it should indeed be upside down as Saint Peter was Crucified upside down at his own request. And i agree with you that his cross would make a strange sword. it would be upside down when used tho. And even then it would take a very strong person to hold it. |
Yumekichi11 said: @ Wasabi, Touma answered his concern for the festival because of what happened to Himegami and he had that in the head. That was obvious more than anything else. It was also a attempt to show him like that because of that trauma, he did mention Fukiyose and Himegami, which are both in the festival. Uhhh what? If he was more worried about Fukiyose and Himegami, then he'd be talking about them, not "Y U TRYING 2 RUIN PPLS ENJOYMENT OF DA FESTIVAL." His lines (according to Ayako subs) were "I'm going to stop you here. I won't let you use Croce de Pietro. You're going to destroy the Academy City and mess up the Daihaseisai, right?" Followed by "What bothers me the most is that you're going to use the Croce de Pietro to put an end to the Daihaseisai! Do you know how many people treasure the Daihaseisai? Regardless of what great religion you use as your excuse, you have no right to rob people of their enjoyment." I'm not sure if that was what was generally said in the LN as well, but if it is then it is some poorly written dialogue. Hell, Touma is a poorly written main character. He's naive and dumb. His self righteous half ass'd speeches are just terrible. His priorities are all out of whack. Even with everyone telling him everything he wants to know, he still can't see the bigger picture than what is involved in his normal life, which is plagued by nothing more than a bunch of lolis and a generic tsundere. |
WasabiDec 27, 2010 5:13 PM
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Wasabi said: Yumekichi11 said: @ Wasabi, Touma answered his concern for the festival because of what happened to Himegami and he had that in the head. That was obvious more than anything else. It was also a attempt to show him like that because of that trauma, he did mention Fukiyose and Himegami, which are both in the festival. Wasabi said: That's what was said but it has to include the fact about the 2 traumas Touma suffered, that of Fukiyose and Himegami. Of course it's not revealed nor hinted but the viewer's assumption of what Touma's suffering is should be of those 2 girl's suffering. He does not give a rat's ass about Academy City, only his concerns are his friends. Uhhh what? If he was more worried about Fukiyose and Himegami, then he'd be talking about them, not "Y U TRYING 2 RUIN PPLS ENJOYMENT OF DA FESTIVAL." His lines (according to Ayako subs) were "I'm going to stop you here. I won't let you use Croce de Pietro. You're going to destroy the Academy City and mess up the Daihaseisai, right?" Wasabi said: Of course that is not what the LN had in store. The speeches in general are far more serious in the LN and many details omitted from the LN, ruin that serious scenario. I read parts of it and I know.Followed by "What bothers me the most is that you're going to use the Croce de Pietro to put an end to the Daihaseisai! Do you know how many people treasure the Daihaseisai? Regardless of what great religion you use as your excuse, you have no right to rob people of their enjoyment." I'm not sure if that was what was generally said in the LN as well, but if it is then it is some poorly written dialogue. Wasabi said: As much as I agree with you opinion you forgot to add that Touma does have some good points about him but it's up to the person to enjoy those points, I for one like his bravery, power and the situations he's involved in. Without his personality (as bad as you describe it) none of them would be enjoyable if it were not his character when he's around those situations.Hell, Touma is a poorly written main character. He's naive and dumb. His self righteous half ass'd speeches are just terrible. His priorities are all out of whack. Even with everyone telling him everything he wants to know, he still can't see the bigger picture than what is involved in his normal life, which is plagued by nothing more than a bunch of lolis and a generic tsundere. |
| This is the speach in the LN Yes, it was primarily about ruining the festival, but the LN's spent a lot of time building the festival up as a representation of people's hopes and dreams, the bonding of families, etc. It was a little bit stupid, but also in character, as Touma cares not for the balance of power in the world and such large issues. A festival being ruined and two girls being hurt are the only parts of this that are significant to him. He's not a "Big Picture" kind of guy and I think we all knew that by now. Take even the first arc in this season. There was a book capable of destroying half the planet and he was only focused on saving the chick. It's just how he thinks. Just for the heck of it here's where they explained the Apostle's Cross, as it seems to be a point of confusion for some people. I personally found that the little bit about the pagan temple made the premise make a lot more sense. @Aversa. The Stab sword wasn't the sword that killed Jesus. It was a distillation of the essence of Stabbing, which was involved in the Nails on the cross, and then again with the spear. Anyway on to my take on this episode. I barely managed to make myself read this arc, and it's no better animated. I was hoping we'd wrap it up, but looks like that happens next week. There's a really cool speech in the epilogue and I pray to god they keep all the good points of it, because that, and the character development for Tsuchimikado were about the only two redeeming features of this. At least we can look forward to the next arc, which was pretty awesome in several ways, and also quite suited for animation. |
Gangler said: Exactly what I though Gangler, his focus in regards to the festival was from the pain those 2 girls suffered not to mention a lot of people's efforts with making the festival that Touma was affected by. Very nice LN speech! I loved it much more as details enriched its content. Anybody who reads that will agree with me anytime!This is the speach in the LN Yes, it was primarily about ruining the festival, but the LN's spent a lot of time building the festival up as a representation of people's hopes and dreams, the bonding of families, etc. It was a little bit stupid, but also in character, as Touma cares not for the balance of power in the world and such large issues. A festival being ruined and two girls being hurt are the only parts of this that are significant to him. He's not a "Big Picture" kind of guy and I think we all knew that by now. Take even the first arc in this season. There was a book capable of destroying half the planet and he was only focused on saving the chick. It's just how he thinks. Gangler said: Rather interesting experience of reading when more details are presented to you.I for one learned a great deal with this cross and its illusionary aspects VS the reality of its effects. I thank you for those 2 LN references and I am sure anyone who reads it will be much more enriched at what time and money failed to integrate in this series so far, information! Now I know better and recommend people to read those LN reference, it does enlighten one.Just for the heck of it here's where they explained the Apostle's Cross, as it seems to be a point of confusion for some people. I personally found that the little bit about the pagan temple made the premise make a lot more sense. @Aversa. The Stab sword wasn't the sword that killed Jesus. It was a distillation of the essence of Stabbing, which was involved in the Nails on the cross, and then again with the spear. Anyway on to my take on this episode. I barely managed to make myself read this arc, and it's no better animated. I was hoping we'd wrap it up, but looks like that happens next week. There's a really cool speech in the epilogue and I pray to god they keep all the good points of it, because that, and the character development for Tsuchimikado were about the only two redeeming features of this. At least we can look forward to the next arc, which was pretty awesome in several ways, and also quite suited for animation. |
| @Yumekichi11. Glad I could help. I don't know about you, personally I love it when Touma says things like "To me, the balance of the science and magic side, as well as the domination of the world, those are just trivial things." It's what makes him fun. If I wanted a "Big picture" kind of guy, then I could watch Lelouch, or Light Yagami (both of which are very fun main characters, don't want to be seen as putting them down). Touma's got a narrower sight, but that's part of his charm. He sees what's in front of him, and not much more. That's fine, because he's not the tactician, or the scout, or the information gatherer or any such thing. Others take care of that, and then they come to him with a problem, and he fixes it. @Xyco. Yeah, it's a shame some of the stuff that doesn't get done properly, but the show's already pretty heavy on exposition and dialogue. If they actually properly adapted what is often 130 pages of buildup, 10 pages of combat, and then a good twenty pages of revealing epilogue, I don't know if we'd even be able to retain the action tag:p If you're interested in more though I'd recommend this passage. It's maybe half a page. Himegami's end of the accident. Well worth the read. |
Gangler said: Exactly one way I was leaning on and also I see Touma rather a cool unique character that no anime ever made to have such a character a power used in that way, although sometimes he reminds me of Captain Falcon for "falcon punch" in this episode his anger was particularly nice.@Yumekichi11. Glad I could help. I don't know about you, personally I love it when Touma says things like "To me, the balance of the science and magic side, as well as the domination of the world, those are just trivial things." It's what makes him fun. If I wanted a "Big picture" kind of guy, then I could watch Lelouch, or Light Yagami (both of which are very fun main characters, don't want to be seen as putting them down). Touma's got a narrower sight, but that's part of his charm. He sees what's in front of him, and not much more. That's fine, because he's not the tactician, or the scout, or the information gatherer or any such thing. Others take care of that, and then they come to him with a problem, and he fixes it. |
| I am bored of this arc. It has been dragging for too long now. |
| geez this episode sucks too much. Go Touma! talk her to death with your righteous speech! |
| If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete themselves upon execution. - Robert Sewell |
| I just watch the first season and finally caught up. And lately, Touma has been getting pretty annoying, the Misaka moments were awesome but Touma got to stop being a worry wart and get his job done, instead of crying about every single little injury. And wow, has this arc been long, he should just do one of his one hit KO punches and then move on. |
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| Instantly when hearing Last Order talking about herself, I was like "Yaaaay, Accelerator! : D", but then, when I realized that there wouldn't be any Accelerator, I was disappoint. D: Oh and the art was better again. Not at all like the horrible previous episode. And at least this is better than that abomination called Railgun. |
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| I know its not canon, but did Touma threaten to beat Oriana to death in the intro? Dude needs help o_o |
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| Kuroko made this episode watchable. And Ms. Boobs of course. The rest's just terrible. I mean, seriously? "I WON'T LET YOU DESTROY THE FESTIVAL!!!11 D: D: D:" Jesus Christ. I can't believe I liked the first season. Or maybe the first season really was good, and this is just... different. And absolutely stupid. |
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| the anime makes the LN look bad. |
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| Wait, Touma's parents know of his special power? And still waiting for that falcon punch. |
billng said: Wait, Touma's parents know of his special power? And still waiting for that falcon punch. Where are you getting that from? |
Gangler said: billng said: Wait, Touma's parents know of his special power? And still waiting for that falcon punch. Where are you getting that from? His parents asked if it was his own will, then it must be important. His dad was a part of the sky fall incident afterall |
| So they came to the conclusion that Touma is old enough to decide for himself whether or not to participate in a festival. How does this tie into the imagine breaker? Touya was mostly oblivious throughout angels fall, and what little he did see didn't indicate anything about Touma having powers. Basically he just got to have touma run with him to the safety of the hotel, where they both got beaten unconscious by an acquittance of Touma's. It seems a bit of a leap to say that he's learned Touma's power by this. |
| That was an unbearably long, slow, and boring episode. I'm sorry, but if you spend more than half of an episode explaining something that it shown in less than 5 scenes, it's pointless and a waist of time. I expected better the second time around of To Aru Majustsu no Index, and thought they would progress in a better attitude. Hopefully, next episode we can start to pick things up. Looking forward to the next! |
| haha the loli teacher is now a fan of Stiyl. Can't wait for Oriana to get her ass kicked. |
darkerealm said: haha the loli teacher is now a fan of Stiyl. OTP? |
| so much dialouge i don even know what the hell is going on! |
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| Aah, what a cliffhanger. I really though this one would be the finale! Ever since the beginning of the "Stab Sword" arc I found it pretty frustrating stupid that people like Index and Misaka didn't know anything about what was going on. -_- His parents sure are understanding though, believing in Touma doing something more important than the competition. Really now? The reason Touma uses to confront Oriana is the fact she'll ruin the Daihaseisai, snf not the fact she's going to change the world as they know it? O_O "...then I'll have to crush that ridiculous illusion of yours!". Well go get her Touma, we know you want to punch her in the face again. Well next up's the real finale of this arc. And it doesn't look pretty. Don't think the others like Index and Misaka will even know what has been going on either. >_< |
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| "Im not so sensitive that I can be satisfied with just one hand" Hahahahaha....Oriana's suggestive lines always make me chuckle! I only just found out that Stiyl is supposed to be 14! wtf? The scene with loli-sensei hugging him was warped when I think that she's an adult and he's just a teen! Their hights are the wrong way round! hahahaha |
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| another episode of confusing explanation. i've watched it 2 times and still dont get it all LOL just looking forward to the fight hehe |
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helur said: "You think you can convience me with a half-assed speech?" ^ QFT. His speech as as bad as the one he gave to Index to get her to go away; which i still can't believe she took easily. So much trolling, they like to get my hopes up expecting accelerator or biribiri to show up. (Good 7/10) i was thinking they would use last order to find out where oranda is, definitly seemed like a good idea. |
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| So Touma's main issue with the Cross being used is that it's going to ruin a sporting event? Come on, that's weak. I was hoping to actually see Last Order, but noo... |
| So nothing fucking happens... They just run around looking for where they're going to plunge that stupid fucking cross. We don't even know what the purpose of Oriana and the mysterious sister really is. This is the worst fucking arc. Please tell me it gets better, because I'm about the drop this series. We hear Misaki Misaki's voice but she never shows up! I wished they focused more on character and humor instead of trying hard create this failed drama, tension, and meaningless violence. Well, at lease Oriana kind of feels bad for going over the top on Himegami. Though I still haven't forgiven her. |
| Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t understand at all what is happening with this spell thing, what exactly they are trying to do, and all the confusing details they’ve been talking about don’t make any sense to me. I had to go on Wikipedia just to make sense what is happening, because I seriously don’t understand all their random details that they are spewing around. Anybody else feel that way with this episode? I’m about half-way into episode and I’m just waiting until the action starts or until something I understand comes by my way… Okay, that’s BS. Toma and Stiyl jumped a barbed wired fence like it was no big deal when they ran towards Oriana. Geez, how many spell does that women have? No matter how many pages she tears out, it doesn’t look like the book is getting any smaller. And not to mention she is a damn good fighter on top of being an awesome magic user. |
| Never go full retard |
| for once i actually agree that theres too heavy dialoge that's not very interesting or easy to understand. I don't really know what's going on, but I decided not to put too much weight on the details. All I can make out is that they're going to desrroy Academy City with the cross for whatever reason (*shrugs) and Toma gonna stop them. Main problem is the arc is dragging too long T_T. The climatic build is only good for the first fight between Touma and the woman. No need for that many episodes to revolve around catching this woman. Other than the Misaka and Index scenes, I don't really like this arc that much. |
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| This is fucking terrible. I can't believe the words that came out of Touma's mouth. Well, I should have expected it I guess. But, really? Give me some Accelerator please... |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Touma's speech to Oriana was probably one of the stupidest things I have heard. I mean, really, out of all the reasons he could have stated for wanting to stop their plan he chose "because it would ruin everyone's fun at this sports festival"? Ridiculous. |
| Oh boy! The final battle has started! Lets see how it goes was quite a nice buildup episode this one and quite funny as well! |
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| I hope Touma's last move will not be a punch... XD |
| I feel like I haven't seen a girl get punched in a while..... |
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| Never mess with students' sports festival! |
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| "Oh my, what's happening in this city?" Fuyokose You don't even want to know just how dark this world is. Ignorance is bliss they say. Touma's fight next episode!!! Mikoto's mother is a cool mother haha. Kuroko's expression at the sight of her breasts was priceless; Touma's parents sounded just like Yuukiteru's parents from Mirai nikki =D. |
| ahhh, im loving these little teasers of last order and accelerator! I hope they get involved more in the 2nd half of the series. Also, kuroko is looking a bit overwhelmed. too much misaka XD |
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| Hey St-Pierre died on the same day of my birthday! :D I don't if I should be happy about it... Anyway, nothing much happened in that episode, except that Touma plan to break those illusions from Oriana. Those damn evil plotting nuns. Is Tsuchimikado getting owned by a random trap becomming a running gag. The poor lad can't catch a break xD And damn Stiyl, still being useless. Or maybe it's just Oriana who is too strong. Or just more talented. |
| «Time is passing so quickly. Right now, I feel like complaining to Einstein. Whether time is slow or fast depends on perception. Relativity theory is so romantic. And so sad.» - Kurisu Makise a.k.a. The Zombie |
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