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Feb 2, 2009 2:41 PM
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Jul 27, 2009 12:48 PM
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cantius said:
A good episode, just like the previous one.

Corrected.

Seriously, I don't find this series nearly as good as I was told. It's not bad, yes, but nothing special either.
So far, I've seen nothing impressive so this episode and the previous one stood out for me as being 'above average'. The others before were mediocre, at best. And I haven't been convinced yet as to why Shiro is the Commander. Given his age, his character and his not-so-amazing piloting skills, it makes no sense!

Three episodes to go. Awaiting a good finale or I'll be cranky.
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Mar 2, 2010 2:16 PM
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cantius said:
A great episode, just like the rest.
I agree with this, but this episode was simply superb! Loved the part where Amada finally decided he was going to fight to protect his friends:
"Are you going to shoot?!"
"YEAH!"

It seems Ginias is willing to do anything to finish the Apsalus project.

Arcanus said:
And I haven't been convinced yet as to why Shiro is the Commander. Given his age, his character and his not-so-amazing piloting skills, it makes no sense.
Shiro is 24 years old and he seems more than capable of being a commander. You don't have to be an ace pilot to be a commander. 08th MS Team isn't about some newtype pilot who is better than everyone else, Shiro is supposed to be "average".
Aug 14, 2010 4:32 PM
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that them bastard Gin !!!
Aug 20, 2010 7:26 PM
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superchan said:
that them bastard Gin !!!


What does that mean...?
Feb 1, 2011 9:12 AM
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Yeah, honestly this series hasn't been much more than just above average.

Plot is so skewered and patchy it just doesnt have any flow
Jun 17, 2011 8:38 PM
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I'm surprised how little I cared that those Zeon guys were betrayed and killed. Or that silver-haired dude survived his fight with Shiro. Or even that the members of 08th team lived through their ordeals.

Bad plot, the worst Gundam cast I've seen yet, and very rushed pacing. I like the animation and music just fine, but this is a little disappointing.

ZZ was better. second half of zz anyway
Aug 13, 2011 7:44 AM
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With so many alluring pitfalls, I'm kinda impressed they ignored the "one of my friends betrayed me?!" and "wat am I fighting foaaar" bullshit.

I don't want to rush and sing praises for this series so soon, but the worst Gundam cast? Are you frakking kidding? I wasn't particularly excited with the beginning, but these last episode were MUCH better than any part of 0079 or Zeta I can think of. Maybe not 0080, ...ok I better drop this comparision game, at least until I finish it.
Jun 22, 2012 11:55 PM
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Arcanus said:
And I haven't been convinced yet as to why Shiro is the Commander. Given his age, his character and his not-so-amazing piloting skills, it makes no sense!

Shiro is an officer, that is how it works in the military. The best example can be found in the United States Army Aviation branch. Warrant Officers will spend their lives flying a helicopter and become amazing pilots but they will still be under brand new officers who have just graduated flight school and are young enough to be their child. An officer is a leader first and a pilot second, though it does take some time to get the hang of being a leader which can clearly be seen with Shiro.
Jan 29, 2013 7:53 AM

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Great Episode! This series is improving.

The blonge guy has shown his true intentions, and I think now thing will start to became serious, with all this Aplasus project.

Well, I hope Shiro stops this bullshit of don't killing anyone, because he'll become f*cked up if that happens.
Dec 11, 2013 12:29 PM

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I agree with some of you this isn't as great as I heard so far, I have not seen anything spectacular yet.
Its still pretty good.
Feb 15, 2014 6:06 AM

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It was ok I guess, the scene with Eledore and karen and the Acguy was pretty cool,

But what was with the new gundam Shiro had, There wasn't even a explanation how he got it, it was just suddenly there. Maybe it was explained in that Millers report movie.
Apr 5, 2014 6:48 PM

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I guess someone had to be the crazy villain. Anyways, Michel screaming his head off while racing across the lake is one of his best scenes.

atomusku said:
I don't want to rush and sing praises for this series so soon, but the worst Gundam cast? Are you frakking kidding? I wasn't particularly excited with the beginning, but these last episode were MUCH better than any part of 0079 or Zeta I can think of. Maybe not 0080, ...ok I better drop this comparision game, at least until I finish it.


While I agree in terms of Zeta, MSG had a much better cast than 08th team. I would put 08th team's cast second so far as it, at least, has two or three likeable characters compared to Zeta's...
Apr 13, 2014 2:17 PM

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Why are you people complaining so much¿ The series is pretty good. Shiro is definitely not the best Gundam protagonist but he's a cool guy.
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Sakarii said:
atomusku said:
I don't want to rush and sing praises for this series so soon, but the worst Gundam cast? Are you frakking kidding? I wasn't particularly excited with the beginning, but these last episode were MUCH better than any part of 0079 or Zeta I can think of. Maybe not 0080, ...ok I better drop this comparision game, at least until I finish it.


While I agree in terms of Zeta, MSG had a much better cast than 08th team. I would put 08th team's cast second so far as it, at least, has two or three likeable characters compared to Zeta's...


Agreed. I don't know about Zeta since I haven't watched it yet, but I wouldn't even dare compare 0079's cast and this one (even though I'm very fond of Karen and Eledore).

Anyway glad to see another fine episode.
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May 26, 2014 7:05 PM

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Im very excited to see what the final episodes have in store.

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Dec 23, 2014 12:13 AM

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A decent episode. The most commendable aspect would be the face off between Shiro and the Zeon guys, and I am really glad his resolve did not waver him anymore. "I will not fight for the Federation, I will fight for my friends!" Although it is kind of sad to see them being victims to Ginias' and his ulterior motives. War being war. 5/5

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But what was with the new gundam Shiro had, There wasn't even a explanation how he got it, it was just suddenly there. Maybe it was explained in that Millers report movie.
Well, Shiro's gundam got half-destroyed in episode 7 right? I guess they just give him a new mobile suit for convenience sake, instead of reparing a beyond-repair mech. And it is also likely that this was given to him to have observation purposes on him, given the fact that he is suspected as a Zeon spy.
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Jun 5, 2015 5:28 PM

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Good episode.

It seems Shiro is still not sure if he's willing to kill Zeon just for the mission, but at least he knows he still has to do it just for the survival of he and his friends.

Damn Ginias is one bastard commander. Leaving his comrades, drugging them to finish Apsalus, as well as backstabbing and killing Yuri.

Anyways lots of pump up action. Can't wait for the next episode!
Mar 26, 2016 12:44 PM

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They are really taking the road of the mad scientist / psychopathic commandant... I know Gihren was never depicted as good but he had qualities while this driven freak has absolutely nothing for him (not even some grim ideology). He even killed the fake Ramba himself. I know I should have felt something but it was near uneffective, Ral's death was a lot more meaningful to me and to the story.
Glad the relationship between Eleodore and Karen did not take as much place as the preview was telling. Shiro had a nice moment, but there is simply not enough time left for me to like him as much as Amuro (yes, I like the weeny brat). The others members of the 8th are also good but even with more spotlight on them, I can't begin to like them either, while I naturally grew fond of the White Base crew (and others secondary characters) without even noticing it. I can't understand why people say 0079 was bad character-wise.
A little letdown was the disappearance of Kiki who was becoming promising thanks to the previous OAV, She was in every other episode before even when it was useless and she was removed after getting a needed evolution, good way to spoil something.

3/5

edit: thanks to @JGChaves ( https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=65740&show=0#msg47605245)
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Apr 13, 2016 6:05 AM

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A very good episode... the ending was intense.
Jun 30, 2016 2:57 PM

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Another solid episode. Not the best one but still good. Cant wait to see these last 3!
Jul 25, 2016 10:45 AM

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Another great episode, let's see what the last 3 episodes will have to offer!
Sep 2, 2016 4:23 PM

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edit: why did Shiro receive a new unique Gundam to replace his broken "mildly" mass-produced custom Gundam for a suicidal mission after an accusation of intelligence on behalf the ennemy?! Isn't this a potential bigger loss than to give him a regular model or one of their many G.M.? Totally illogical.


It's not exactly a "new" Gundam. His Gundam Ez8 is a reconstruction of his old Gundam Ground Type. You see, those Gundam Ground Type were built out of spare parts from Project V(the Project that created the original Gundam), so replacements parts were very limited. Since the engineers didn't have enough replacements parts, they used whatever they could find to repair Shiro's Gundam. The resulting amalgam was so different from it's original form that it needed a new name.
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@JGChaves Thank you, it makes far more sense. What I mistook for an "upgraded" model or new prototype is in fact a thing made of scrapped materials. Shame on me, I didn't notice the information.
Sep 23, 2016 5:35 AM
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The best episode of the series, for the moment!!! The enemy no is the army rival, the enemy stay in the same house....
Jun 8, 2017 6:32 AM

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The brother is a pure psycho....nowhere near the caliber of Char.
Mar 26, 2018 9:37 PM

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Compared to the last episode this does not even compare. It was still a good Gundam episode. The combat scenes in this series steal the show.
Sep 13, 2019 9:42 AM

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That tense moment after Karen had shot the Zaku and we are left waiting to hear a response from Eledore.. Another great episode!
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cantius said:
A great episode, just like the rest.
I agree with this, but this episode was simply superb! Loved the part where Amada finally decided he was going to fight to protect his friends:
"Are you going to shoot?!"
"YEAH!"

It seems Ginias is willing to do anything to finish the Apsalus project.

Arcanus said:
And I haven't been convinced yet as to why Shiro is the Commander. Given his age, his character and his not-so-amazing piloting skills, it makes no sense.
Shiro is 24 years old and he seems more than capable of being a commander. You don't have to be an ace pilot to be a commander. 08th MS Team isn't about some newtype pilot who is better than everyone else, Shiro is supposed to be "average".

True, this is just a small unit assigned to a specific point on Earth, not the entire Federation. For that, he is doing well enough.
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I did get quite worried about Eledore and Karen there, I was even thinking someone could get killed.
Also it'd be good if Aina did something at last, and I kind of want Kiki to return, she got a nice episode and some presence earlier, the guerillas won't just be dropped, will they?

Ginias is just a psychotic scientist obsessed with his project, oh well. Nothing exciting about him aside from his fancy looks. By the way, where did the second Apsalus come from? The first one was pretty much shown to be self-destructed by Aina in ep.7, was there another prototype?
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been getting into the UC side stories. so far i find 08th ms team more interesting than war in the pocket. that guy is so hellbent on getting obelisk completed, he's been consumed by it. that ending was brutal, rip
Sep 23, 2020 4:55 PM
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I wish the Zeon guys got more development. Since this anime focuses heavily on the "good on both sides," that could have done a lot to make their deaths hit harder. The pacing in this show is definitely too fast, which is a shame because the characters are pretty lively and convincing.

I care as much about some of these guys right now as I did about some of the main characters in 0079 and the end of the series.
Apr 3, 2021 4:39 PM

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"I don't kill anyone!"
"MUH NAKAMA!"
Shiro this isn't WSJ...what could go wrong?

Jul 16, 2021 12:02 PM

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Ginias truly is evil.

Can he be stopped?

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Looks like Aina's oniii-san is the main antagonist now. Kellarny was killed too early if you ask me.
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Death of the original creator really impacted this series could have so much better
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really great epsiode
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Well this guy's sick exploding that tunnel.

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