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Very interesting analysis! I’d tend to agree with you on every point you made about the OG Eva. It’s an extremely raw, emotional roller coaster that Anno brings the viewer on (one that reflects his own inner emotional state at the time). Aside from its aesthetic beauty and heady conceptual ideas, I think it’s so beloved because so many people just straight up relate to the themes of solipsism and nihilism presented in the movie (at least at some point in their lives). I was definitely an angsty teenager so I was definitely seeing myself in many of the characters at times. To this day I still do, in different ways. What makes the whole story a complete gem to me is that it’s used as a sort of blueprint to overcome those negative tendencies and emotions that we all have.

While this is beautiful in theory, I’d agree that it can get super chaotic and sometimes downright unintelligible (especially after only 1 or 2 watch-throughs). Evangelion (in all its iterations) I would say is definitely more Style over Substance in many ways, in the fact that while it does present a ton of substance and nuance, the style can be unbelievably jarring and overpowering where it would cause many to miss the message. For example, the last episodes of the OG serious where we are just in shinjis mind, or in End of Eva, when it shows live action footage and the people in the theatre. It’s mind-blowing (dare I say groundbreaking?) stuff if you really dive into it, but it really asks a lot of investment and work from the viewer to actually dive into it and understand all the symbolisms and meanings buried in all that “style”.

I definitely had to watch a few YouTube explanations myself lol!


When it comes to the rebuild movies, perhaps my mindset going into it is what soured the experience for me. I felt a closure after End of Eva, and wasn’t that interested in the rebuilds tbh. I’ve only seen them once or twice, so forgive me if my memory is a bit foggy on them!

I would probably (and I think I already have) rank the rebuilds the opposite of how you have them, in terms of order. I felt like the movies became even more unintelligible the deeper into the story we got. I realize that it’s its own story, and the whole point was to diverge it from the original series, but I couldn’t help but make many comparisons between the two, where the rebuilds were just inferior to me.

For example (from what I remember): the rebuilds go a lot farther into techno-babble, where they over explain the mechanics of what exactly is going on, especially in battle scenes. The battles after the 1st movie were very confusing to me, and at most points I felt straight up bored and checked out. Many weird or plot convenience type things would happen that would take me out of the scenes because I just could not understand what was happening. Like, Asuka became a dog or something, and Kaoru took of shinjis bomb necklace and instead of throwing it away-puts it on himself-killing himself in the end. In the final movie the ending arc with gendo becoming a god, I had no idea what was happening at all and the whole scene pretty much flew over my head. The fact that asuka didn’t age at all also threw me. And the fact that we had to watch Rei have the exact same arc for the third time when they brought her clone to life, only to kill her in the 4th movie.

Also it seemed to me like the overall story didn’t take place in the real world at any point after the first 2 movies. We get scenes at sets that feel so out of place and apart from logic or the real world that I was just so lost. We go from the real world - to the 3rd impact - to a hellicarrier (was it an angel hellicarrier they were living in) with Misato in the future time skip - to the apocalyptic world - to an underground hidden bunker with kaoru with rooms and staircases strewn about, some not covered at all - to the farmland with the old high school characters - to our world (forgive me that’s all I can remember, it’s been a long time). I couldn’t mentally or logically fit all these different environments/settings together in the same world at the same time. That also had a big impact on the cohesion of all the movies for me. Things would drastically change at the drop of a hat.

To me I felt like the last 3 rebuilds were even more chaotic than the end of the OG series and End of Eva. While I would call myself an attentive viewer, I was unable to focus, concentrate, and ultimately appreciate the rebuilds in almost any way. While the OG series was a character study on each of the main cast, with a spotlight on shinji, the rebuilds felt like they tried to make up for the lack of world building in the OG series (even though I see that as a positive). The stronger focus on explanations and world building took much needed focus away from the characters and character interactions which is Eva’s bread and butter.

Hopefully I didn’t ramble too much and made some sense. I don’t see the rebuilds as a complete waste or anything, and I do think they had some good moments, and the overall message was positive. I did enjoy at least the idea that Anno used the movies as a way to shout out his wife, because of course love is important. I’m sure there’s a lot that I missed in the rebuilds, but to me the story was a bit redundant. While anno’s themes and messages are ones that I do resonate with, I didn’t enjoy the way it was presented in the rebuilds.

I think for me it’s just more of a preference.

Woah!! I’m curious to know your reasoning for enjoying the Evangelion rebuilds more! In my head that’s a spicy take my guy LOL. & ya evangelion is one of my favourite pieces of media tbh it’s unreal.

Honestly I didn’t find the rebuilds that engaging at all. In fact I see them as kinda derivative or redundant, but that’s just me! I know a lot of ppl especially younger viewers (I’m 24) seem to enjoy the rebuilds more. I wonder if that’s moreso just recency bias, or the fact that it’s prettier. But honestly I don’t spend much time in the anime community anymore so I don’t know what people are really thinking or saying I could just be imagining things lmao.

To me original Eva deals with a lot more personal and relatable themes and situations, and you can see clear growth throughout the story. Not to mention the amazing characters who feel soo real and true to life of how real people are and act. There’s lots that I love about it haha. But I’d love to hear your take on the rebuilds, as I’ve seen them all and did not find much to love about them tbh.

Appreciate the response! I’m enjoying hearing ur take for sure!

Apologies, I don’t know anything about JJK🤣, and it’s been a hot minute since I consumed any Haikyuu lol! but I see what ur saying it makes sense.

In terms of plot and character development, I would say that in my opinion we get exactly the amount of backstory and development necessary. I ultimately see Slam Dunk as a love letter to the sport of basketball. While I completely agree with you that if we got beautifully written backstories and character arcs of every character, it would definitely enhance the manga, ultimately it’s not the point of the overall story. For example, we see rukawas desire to go to America turn into him remaining in Japan, with shohoku, and even playing for the Japanese national team. As for Anzai, we see that the reason he became a more relaxed happy coach was because of his previous pupil, who’s story mirrored rukawa’s. I’m not so sure we need any more info than that for either of those particular arcs. At least, I don’t personally see a way where it could be done that I would appreciate more than what we get. I kinda respect more how the author doesn’t need to flesh everything out so much and keeps things more direct, essential info only I guess.


Same goes for the ending. I’m not exactly sure how Haikyuu did theirs, so I won’t compare. It is sort of a bittersweet ending, as they just have those mini stories after, if I’m remembering correctly. So not every thread gets “proper” closure. Again, I would love to read another 30+ chapters of slam dunk to close out the manga if it was well done lol! But, like I said, in my head the story is more about the basketball, in a way? Idk haha. It is abrupt, and i can definitely see why you feel like it was cut short or not done as well, totally understand. Maybe I just love the story so much I’ve got rose tinted goggles on! I’m also just relieved that there are no glaring issues with the ending lol, other than the fact that it could’ve been longer.

In terms of the beginning portion. (My head cannon incoming) I think that we don’t get so much basketball for a while because Sakuragi is a newcomer to the sport. Since we are reading and experiencing the whole story through his eyes, we learn about and develop love for the sport alongside Sakuragi, as the story plays out. Which, if true, would be a beautiful way to tell the story.

I would’ve loved to see more basketball of course, because it’s so well done haha. If Haikyuu does all these things better however, totally understandable!

Anyway, I’d love to hear ur thoughts on that! Not too often to have a thoughtful discussion like this so I appreciate your take.

Also, that scene with Hanamichi and his dad gets me every time. Getting more would be nice, but again it’s not really the point of the story, and just the little glimpse we get of his backstory is enough to get us even more fully invested in him as a character and the story as a whole.

S;G series is my most favourite anime of all time. Even aot couldnt take the no1 place in my heart even though i think that AOT is the greatest anime of all time. One piece is my second favourite.

Hello fellow Steins;Gate fan. You also got haikyuu and kaguya sama and Horimiya on your fav list. Indeed a man of great taste

Thanks for accepting my friend request! :D

Yeah it is, I'm really enjoying it so far... it's funny and the story is good

The part I'm at right now is when they are on the way to Alabasta with Vivi. They recently came to Little Garden island with the two giants. So based off what you said, I'm hoping it picks up a bit more for me. <3

Yeah, I had a bunch of anime that wasn't seasonal that I finally finished. Most of my CW is seasonal now so that's good.

Are the 'watched days' based on the total length of the episodes/seasons?

OP as in One Piece? I only recently started watching it. I'm in the 70's currently. I don't dislike the series, but I'm not sure if I actually like it yet. I know it's slower paced and more world building than super strong plot but I'm trying to give it a chance and see why it's so popular.

I'm doing pretty well, how about you?

My CW list was a lot longer but the past week I've managed to lower it. I usually have 10-20 anime going at a time. Now that I got it down to 6, I can start watching new ones and bump it back up lol.

I think I'm addicted to increasing my Completed number... I only started watching anime this year!

What is your forum picture? I like the artwork.

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AA, siento que la mayoria me encuentra por los foros xd

De hecho, es dificil encontrar hispanohablantes no porque no hayan sino porque al hablar por los foros en inglés, no te das cuenta, tienes que entrar en su perfil para poder verlo jsjsj

Ah, y si quieres te paso el capítulo 232 de Kaguya ;D

Ohhhh, nice hahah
No suelo coincidir con muchos hispanohablantes, mucho menos del Salvador c:

Que tal, todo bien? Por cierto cómo encontraste mi perfil? Me da curiosidad :p