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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- How did the random documentary on aliens and communication connect with the story? |
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| Wow, too much information that don't make any sense... I'd like to know what aliens have to do with the story too. This is becoming more and more confuse. |
Anime ga daaaai suki!!! Computer Engineering. Japan is awesome!!! |
| My brain hurts right now. Only thing that was crystal clear to me was the boy and how her room "became it is now". |
| Starcorea, thanks, that was an interesting read. The whole deleting the past analogy to 1984 is quite clever, I didn't really think about it like that. I must admit the whole Roswell thing also confused me bit at first.. actually it still does. Is it going to be a part of the main plot, or a symbol as Starcorea said. Oh, and LOL and the gum swapping scene :D |
| The brain has 10 in 10-20 power neuron. And there are 6 milliards people on Earth. So number of people is very smaller than number of neurons in one brain. Society will not be a large webbrain. Too small. |
| waaa..!! So many random stuffs..!! |
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| I think this episode is partially explaining the reason the Wired was created and how the concept works (?). The wired enables people to connect without computers etc etc etc. This is all just a guess though. |
| I sure did like the cute little holiday sweater that alien was wearing. |
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| So much random high-brow crap. I don't see the Roswell story having any connection with what's going on. They're only trying to make it look deep and interesting. |
Earth gets angry after a kick in the face. |
| Lol at the comments. We were just given some insight of how the wired works and how it will be able to take over reality. Starcorea's great comment pretty much nailed it, and it managed to somehow explain the alien part that I wasn't getting at first. |
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teanut said: So much random high-brow crap. I don't see the Roswell story having any connection with what's going on. They're only trying to make it look deep and interesting. You should try reading what Starcorea posted it, just because you don't get it doesn't mean it has no connection. |
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Nayah said: My brain hurts right now. |
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~ |
| The whole narrator thing was just weird. |
| Starcorea pretty much nailed it. Another addition to that is that the alien can also be considered part of the 'rewritten' history, they start to exist because they have been rewritten to exist. |
| My head hurts. I like it. |
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| The majestic 12 is as we know conspiracy theory, and probably something that could be discussed a lot on the wired and get a lot of attention there, probably there's a lot of believers as well. Couldn't that explain why Lain (and some other people also mentioning the kid with the sweater standing by their bedroom staring at them in earlier episodes) "saw" these aliens? That the border between the real and the wired is getting blurred, thus connecting people's consciousness more and more, which makes ideas and beliefs from different people manifest in other people's consciousness and so on? Maybe a longshot I dunno, just trying to make sense out of all this. |
| I was feeling like this anime is somewhat alike NGE, but now all that connect-humanity-into-one-being ideas made the border between these two animes even thinner =\ |
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| Brain Implosion! |
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| It's all a conspiracy! |
| Man, I really liked those mini 'history' parts. The music on those was really cool. Things are getting hard to follow, though. |
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A decent episode, a lot of information. Looking forward to next episode. |
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| Documentary was interesting, I'll have to read something about these fact elswhere. Random alien on the other hand, for me was just pointless. |
| That Alien gave me a heart attack and she just shrugs it off... |
| Interesting insight starcorea. Wish you would take more part in the forums. Now we know where the world is finally heading in that it will eventually become a whole connected network thanks to the guy who implemented the Shuman Resonance into protocol 7. I believe his name is Eiri Masami and that is him who appears before Lain in the very end. Not really sure what the tape and the face paint mean. Guess we'll find out next episode. I about crapped my pants when I saw that alien since I have a fear of those things. As with its appearance, I believe that the alien wasn't as symbolic as starcorea says it is even though I like that thought. I am thinking the alien came by to see Lain off to what probably is the connecting of the world. I mean, he appears to have been living on the earth due to his human clothes. He probably knew this was going to happen one day and has been waiting for it. Guess we'll find out in the future episodes. The part with the crash probably has to do with the discovery of new technology that led to the creation of the wired and the discovery of the neural network. Of course, this is all just what I got out of what I saw. Lain is having identity issues from both sides now. The wild Lain doesn't understand that there are two of her either. At least, I am assuming that was the wild lain talking to random people on the wired. I feel real bad for both Lain's now even though the wild one was a real douche last episode. Again, the more we learn the more we don't know. |
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| So much information and so much happened, and lol that kiss sure was sudden... Really weird all this O_O |
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| Yay an unexpected kiss scene. |
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| That chip she got from the DJ was a code for erasing human memory made by the Knights, huh? I'm guessing that going to be really important for when we meet them (which was maybe the guy at the end of the episode?) I thought the history bits were really cool, actually. I love shows that jump off of actual events. |
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| I lol'd hard when Taro's gum ended up in Lain's mouth. Otherwise, pretty much what starcorea said. |
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| Thing are becoming much more clearer than before. And that kid was funny. |
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| i loled at the alien scene |
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| That alien scared the shit out of me. XD At first, I thought it was the chibi version of Freddy Krueger. Poignant commentary about losing one's sense of reality. I can't stop watching this shit. >_< |
 "And if, there were so many people in the world, there had to be someone living an interesting life that wasn't ordinary. I was sure of it. Why wasn't that person me?" - The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Part V [/center] |
| After reading Starcorea's post, all of my jumbled thoughts on this episode are finally making sense :p thank you so much for that! The documentary bits were very interesting, showing how the wired began to take form and for what purpose. In a way, it reminds me of the "truth" documentary pieces from the Assassin's Creed games. |
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| The kiss was cute ^^ |
| A wonderful episode. We’ve got a lot of explanations this time around. I think that a lot of the documentaries, at least the early ones, are there just as analogies/symbolisms. They talk about altering history, by which pretty much controlling the world -which is what the Knights are trying to do, if I understand it correctly. Of course, it is also an analogy of what is going on now at the same time--you can just as easily find false "facts" on the internet as the true ones. As Wired = Internet (more or less), it shows how the world, or humanity, can be controlled with information alone. The alien ’visiting’ Lain shows that she loses a grip on reality, that the real world and the Wired are getting mixed up for her - we’ve been getting a lot of that recently. Well, that’s how I understand it, anyway. The documents in the later part of the episode become completely relevant to the story, talking about what the protocol 7 will try to accomplish. Connecting everyone’s consciousness... am I the only one getting reminded of Evangelion here? c: In any case, this (I think?) didn’t happen yet, but it might be underway. Could explain a lo of the weirdness in the past eps. And the way Lain’s "parents" were acting led me to believe that the part at the end was true. Just what in the world is Lain, then? Does she really exist primarily in the Wired? Uooh, even though I probably misunderstand most of this with my horrible logic, I still can’t help it but love this anime. |
| That bastard stealing a kiss from my future wife, I ought to... |
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| This episode. I just... First off, i've just got to say that that alien SCARED THE CRAP OUT OF ME. FUCK. And what starcorea said really did help, I mean, when the whole Shuman resonance thing came up, i was like "HOLY SH*T, IT MAKES SENSE, FLIPPING MAKES SENSE!!!" But then I realised, that wasnt' karl and co wroking at the tachibana general place? Does that mean, they are the 'evil' guys? What about knights then?? About the family... The mother and father seemed to have known all along what was happening. It seems as though they all 'restart'. Everything restarts, and that they wanted to savour the time they had left!? Baldark said: I am thinking the alien came by to see Lain off to what probably is the connecting of the world. I mean, he appears to have been living on the earth due to his human clothes. He probably knew this was going to happen one day and has been waiting for it. Guess we'll find out in the future episodes. for some reason, thought the alien was Lain's 'father' waving goodbye before he goes back to alien-land. Really enjoyed the documentary in this episode, the whole thing about humanity becoming connected, and eventually becoming one really did have me surprised. LOVING THIS SO FAR. |
| And I thought this anime couldn't get any weirder xD |
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| nothing to say aside from: Weird :| (why can't i remember more aside from the last minute..?) |
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| This is probably the most confusing episode, BUT if you understand it, this is the best explanation to be placed in JUST an episode. SatanicBeaver said: This. I believe that this, and by extension, the concepts of individuality and privacy, are likely to be very central to the show. The Knights are trying to achieve this, basically, to combine both worlds together to achieve omnipotence. By referencing to how Schumann's Response can greatly affect the human's mind when a certain population is reached, each and every human can be linked together in a similar fashion to the wired world, and that's is what the Knights are trying to achieve. Bush's MEMEX and Project Xanadu basically links up with the creation of the "wired" world, similar to how they tried to create and omnipotent world where each and every human could link together with references to the Schumann's Response. Remember Accela, the drug which so called "links" an individual's consciousness with the wired world? Basically, Lilly's psychedelic drugs and isolation tanks are in a similar fashion to this, bringing the human consciousness to a higher level which reminds me of another topic: the 8 circuit model of human consciousness. Correct me if you think that this explanation is incorrect, as I've seen to only this episode. |
| "If you reject me, I'll blast a hole in you!" Kanzaki H. Aria Just kidding.  |
| We start the episode and we are already high in the creepy bar. We take a look to the little guy with the red/green stripped shirt that was mentioned before and while we see how lain goes to Cyberia to retrieve a chip from the knights and go on a date with taro, we heard about random fact trough the human history July 4, 1947: Crashed unknown craft in new Mexico. 1984: Release of a video about the MJ-12 Document, with information about Vannevar Bush and how these people concluded a secret treaty with extraterrestrials. 1945: The MEMEX memory expansion concept unveiled by Vannevar Bush 1954: John C. Lilly experiments with the isolation tank to prove human unconscious. 1960: Project Xanadu created by Ted nelson, basically a giant HDD in the space witch access from earth. Also the concept of hypertext . ???: Douglas Rushkoff propose that the Earth itself could become a neural network explaining it trough the Schumann resonances. Finally the conclusion of this whole history, we learn about how Eiri Masami (Chief Researcher at Tachibana General Labs) developed the hypothesis of a worldwide neural network, he embedded his own consciousness in the project and was fired when Tashibana Labs heard about this, he was also found dead after that, and yeah that was probably the scene we see in the first episode when lain is in the train and she sees blood in the wires outside, later on she sees how a girl?! with long hair is killed by the train... well is probably related with this story. So Masami is probably the kamisama (god) of the wired who is trying to control lain, we don't know who is lain yet though, but if you pay attention you can see lain's father in this pic, what makes you think that lain is some kind of experiment and her father is the one responsible of her physical body, that also would explain the scene where she's received at home by her family and the name of the fucking show. We also learn about taro, he's kinda of a pawn from the knights, he doesn't know much about it, he talks about how the knights want to make the real true the only true?. |
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