| I've read 49/142 chapters and its pretty boring to read. That talk about "the art surpassing any other samurai manga" is pretty much bullshit. With 8.70 mean score it sure doesn't seem underrated but I definitely agree it being unknown. Imo, Vagabond is better than Lone Wolf and Cub in every way. Random page from Vagabond, |
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Enjolras1830 said: Karhu said: I've read 49/142 chapters and its pretty boring to read. That talk about "the art surpassing any other samurai manga" is pretty much bullshit. With 8.70 mean score it sure doesn't seem underrated but I definitely agree it being unknown. Imo, Vagabond is better than Lone Wolf and Cub in every way. Random page from Vagabond, you have not wtached/ read / herd emonught Samurai Stories to see how high this ranks if it was pulrly on manga this ould be betten by Shuri Yuki Hime[ Lady snowblood] bit in Mvoie form as a story i bets snowboold all end up amnga is story and art so this wins Maybe Lone Wolf and Cub is amazing for samurai story but as far as I know most samurai stories are pretty terrible to begin with. I'm comparing it to Vagabond and saying Vagabond is superior. Manga isn't just story and art. If you think Lone Wolf and Cub has better art and/or story then that's nothing but your opinion. There is no winner. Imo, Vagabond is better executed, it has better story, art, characters, it's more enjoyable to read and has higher value. I care to say that most people would agree with me about the art being better in Vagabond. Have you even read it? It doesn't seem to be on your list. You just can't say Lone Wolf wins if you don't even know what Vagabond is. |
| I definitely have superpowers. I can feel it in my balls. |
| I've only read 3 chapters, plan to read more. I have this little feeling that it's going to be one epic read, because of Archaeon's review. |
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| I decided to read this because of said review and it does not disappoint. It does take some time to get used to the pacing and art at first because it is very episodic at the start. But as the story slowly unfolds more and we learn about the feud between Yagyu and Itto, it becomes much more than what you'd think going in initially. On that note, old man Yagyu is probably the best antagonist I've ever come across. The ending should also blow you away. The best ending i've read of any manga to date. One thing Lone Wolf and Club excels at is being able to convey a great story to the reader which each passing chapter. Albeit some chapters are dull, but for the most part you won't be unsatisfied. I've read Vagabond and it is good but one thing it lacks in my opinion is a solid plot. All I get from Vagabond is Mushashi killing stronger and stronger opponents until he reaches Kojiro for the final battle. Lone Wolf and Cub is my second favorite manga for being able to expand on character's and make you really care as to what happens to them (First being Hoshi no Samidare, check it out). You will never meet a more badass 3 year old than Daigoro. Of the 3 samurai manga I've read that most alike, I'd have to rate them like so: Lone Wolf and Cub > Blade of the Immortal > Vagabond. |
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| I don't think it's underrated. I just know it's almost 40 years old. Even the greatest masterpieces at some point fade leaving a legacy behind. |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
| Archaeon gave it a 10 so i really feel that i need to read this now |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| It depends on preference and taste very much on this one. I think it's quite interesting and intriguing, but I can understand people thinking it's really boring at some points. It's a very serious take on that age so yea... |
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| Samurai seems ... so unknown to me, I don't really like and never tried to love it, so I'm assuing its the same for everyone, I don't know. |
| Score: 8.731 (scored by 1060 users) Ranked: #362 Popularity: #660 How is this underrated or unknown? It's one of the rare few I knew about long before I started reading manga. Mostly thanks to the hilariously bad Usian version (Robert Houston) that butchered the first three movies into one. |
| The setting, art, and overall conccept are good, but they problem with this is that it's an episodic story running 28 volumes, and at the very least thus far there are very few highlights amongst them... as a result, it drags like a motherfucker. |
Lindle said: drags like a motherfucker. I agree cause it is like one of the longest marathons I have but Lone Wolf is still epic |
| Yeah, it´s very episodic, especially in the beginning. I can understand why some people would drop this. It took a while before I really liked it. The last couple of volumes are beyond amazing though. Best manga ending ever! |
| There Is A Light That Never Goes Out |
| For those of you that are currently reading it: THE ENDING IS FUCKING AWESOME. And by that I mean like, the greatest ending of anything I've seen or read. |
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| Cause it's old. Most people are more into stuff that is still on-going and despite it's impact and critical acclaim that doesn't get you many readers except those who are really into Samurai manga. |
Nidstang said: For those of you that are currently reading it: THE ENDING IS FUCKING AWESOME. And by that I mean like, the greatest ending of anything I've seen or read. Yup definitely agree to that. I was taken by surprise and was completely overwhelmed by that ending I'm planning on buying the manga if it will become available in our area. Besides each volume is episodic but still contributes to the overall story |
| You can't expect every anime you like to be popular. |
| I'm pretty happy with the rating. While Lone wolf and Cub is great. The plot does drag and not all the stories are interesting. Still when it's strong it's superb. And like said before the ending is one of the best in manga history, and that certainly counts for something. |
| Ashita no Joe is more underrated outside of Japan. |
| added the fourth most popular anime onto this site |
| It is underrated in the following aspects: a) It's a classic of the medium written and drawn by two legends of the industry, but modern manga readers rarely talk about it. This would be akin to movie fans rarely talking about The Godfather or something. This issue is not relegated to Lone Wolf though, western anime/manga fans generally have no respect for history, unlike fans of movies, music and literature. There are many anime fans today who can't even bring themselves to watch something 10 years old because it's 'too dated', whatever the hell that means. b) It never got an anime adaptation, which is really surprising to me. c) The phrase 'Lone Wolf and Cub' is actually well known by movie fans, and you often see it mentioned for works like 'The Mandalorian' or 'Road to Perdition'. So it's ironic most manga readers today have never even heard of this iconic story. It's an incredible manga that is both a romantic view of samurai, while also being a merciless deconstruction of them too, showing all the ugliness of the era, and giving us viewpoints of all sorts of people who lived back then. Ogami Itto's episodic travels up and down Japan impacting the lives of random people like yakuza, prostitutes and peasants is utterly compelling. |
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It is underrated in the following aspects:
a) It's a classic of the medium written and drawn by two legends of the industry, but modern manga readers rarely talk about it. This would be akin to movie fans rarely talking about The Godfather or something. This issue is not relegated to Lone Wolf though, western anime/manga fans generally have no respect for history, unlike fans of movies, music and literature. There are many anime fans today who can't even bring themselves to watch something 10 years old because it's 'too dated', whatever the hell that means.
b) It never got an anime adaptation, which is really surprising to me.
c) The phrase 'Lone Wolf and Cub' is actually well known by movie fans, and you often see it mentioned for works like 'The Mandalorian' or 'Road to Perdition'. So it's ironic most manga readers today have never even heard of this iconic story.
It's an incredible manga that is both a romantic view of samurai, while also being a merciless deconstruction of them too, showing all the ugliness of the era, and giving us viewpoints of all sorts of people who lived back then. Ogami Itto's episodic travels up and down Japan impacting the lives of random people like yakuza, prostitutes and peasants is utterly compelling.
a) It's a classic of the medium written and drawn by two legends of the industry, but modern manga readers rarely talk about it. This would be akin to movie fans rarely talking about The Godfather or something. This issue is not relegated to Lone Wolf though, western anime/manga fans generally have no respect for history, unlike fans of movies, music and literature. There are many anime fans today who can't even bring themselves to watch something 10 years old because it's 'too dated', whatever the hell that means.
b) It never got an anime adaptation, which is really surprising to me.
c) The phrase 'Lone Wolf and Cub' is actually well known by movie fans, and you often see it mentioned for works like 'The Mandalorian' or 'Road to Perdition'. So it's ironic most manga readers today have never even heard of this iconic story.
It's an incredible manga that is both a romantic view of samurai, while also being a merciless deconstruction of them too, showing all the ugliness of the era, and giving us viewpoints of all sorts of people who lived back then. Ogami Itto's episodic travels up and down Japan impacting the lives of random people like yakuza, prostitutes and peasants is utterly compelling.
Beatnik said: b) It never got an anime adaptation, which is really surprising to me. It would be pretty hard to adapt such an artstyle to manga, plus the length is too big. Most of such old gekiga works never got anime adaptations, or did in some terrible OVA form that nobody remembers. Incidentally, it's fascinating (and sad) that despite its cult status the whole series was technically never translated (there're 2 sequels drawn by Hideki Mori) |
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