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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- This classic is opened and closed by two of the most funniest scenes I've ever seen in anime. A bunch of girls being kidnapped by pirates, and two pilots dogfighting then boxing each other infront of a crazy crowd. Just genius. "Better a pig than a fascist." - Porco Rosso Anime Quote of 1992? |
KinetaSep 9, 2012 7:54 PM
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
| This is easily one of the top anime movies. It's one of my favorites. |
| I like his other films better. |
| Utopianwizard hits it straight on. This is easily one of the most mature things that Miyazaki has made. It plays homage to the old style perfectly, which is a very admirable thing. |
| Of course itmost mature Miyazaki's film. And about qoutes, there is one more that I love: "Pig, that does not fly is only ordinary pig" ^^ |
utopianwizard said: WALL OF TEXT CRITS YOU FOR OVER 9000! (3 posts above this one) The best post i've read on MAL yet! ...Thanks! Makes me glad to see that intellectual people do exist on a site like this! Oh and the movie will fit right into my "classic section" in my dvd collection .. i'd rate it 11/10 if it would be possible, to bad I cant do that |
| At first I was like: Well, it's Miyazaki so it should be pretty good at least. By the end I was like: FUCK YES, YOU ARE THE MANLIEST MIYAZAKI FILM EVER! Seriously, this was on par with Nausicaa and Laputa, which is saying something considering those are definitely among the best animated films I've ever seen. The last twenty minutes were simply brilliant, the spoofing of older films was excellently done, and Porco and Fio easily rank among my favorite Miyazaki characters. Why does virtually no one talk about this film? |
| Porco is such a pig... I love him! As for the movie... Great story, superb characters and amazing visuals as expected from Miyazaki. The movie has a lot of funny moments and interesting scenes, specially the quotes from Porco. It's a simple, funny, intelligent and romantic movie that I would recommend to anyone. A Pig's gotta fly! |
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| Easily one of the most memorable opening scenes ever. Those 15 little girls and the gang of bumbling pirates were hilarious. And that really was just the beginning of a thoroughly entertaining, well paced, action adventure stories with a number of characters - topped by Fio and Porco - you can't help but love. One of Miyazaki's better films, which says a ton about Porco Rosso. |
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| I read that Miyazaki is working on a sequel to this. I'm very intrigued! |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
Beatnik said: If this is true, this would be the best anime news i've ever heard.I read that Miyazaki is working on a sequel to this. I'm very intrigued! |
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| Well, this is my first Miyazaki film and I must say that I am thoroughly impressed. One of the reviews on the front page says that this movie really is all about the execution, and I feel that hits the nail square on the head. Miyazaki takes a fairly straightforward, simple plot--a bounty hunting pig on a quest to regain his honour--adds a huge load of style, lovable characters, wonderful animation (it's freakin 1992!) and music, and churns out a work of art. The characters are all great--from Porco as the weathered and jaded old man, to Fio as the adorable and energetic kid, and even Curtis the womanizing sleaze, Miyazaki portrays them all in a very likable manner. Especially Porco and Fio. All their moments were pure gold. Being my first Miyazaki movie, this is also my first proper instance of hearing Joe Hisaishi, and I can definitely see why he receives so much praise. The score is just so well integrated into the movie, evoking precisely the right moods at the right times. Initially I thought that the final confrontation between the two pilots could've had heavier and more combat-like music, but ultimately the whole fight proved rather comical. Lots of nice themes being thrown around by Miyazaki too, none of which I felt was overwrought. The pig metaphor was done to just the right degree, and likewise Fio's role in completely shattering the damsel in distress archetype was executed nicely. Overall, the great amount of thematic development adds A LOT to a very simple story, and as such I can see why this film would appeal to both an adult and youth audience. Definitely reminds of Pixar and older Disney works. In the end, there really isn't much to criticize. Perhaps the climax could've been built up more, maybe have a few of the slower parts sped up a bit, and also in a few instances the English VA's could've been more expressive. But all in all these complaints are very minor, and overall the movie was simply a pleasure to watch. I am certainly looking forwards to seeing more Miyazaki films. |
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| Glad someone appreciates this masterpiece. Its unusual for someone to start Miyazaki with porco rosso, since its among his more overlooked projects. MisterSaito said: Beatnik said: If this is true, this would be the best anime news i've ever heard.I read that Miyazaki is working on a sequel to this. I'm very intrigued! according to dsthyk, thts false news. Although IMBD already made a page about porco rosso, I think its more likely that its just a rumor. |
eyerokFeb 1, 2011 4:12 AM
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| The song Gina sang at the beginning of the movie seriously reminded me of Edith Piaf, the voice was incredibly reminiscent of hers. I really enjoyed Porco Rosso. 'I'd rather be a pig than a fascist.' Bullseye. |
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MaedhrostheTall said: I felt this movie went too fast. That usually happens with dubs for me. i hate it. I felt like the whole pig thing didnt really get elaborated on enough. like.. why IS he a pig? I'm still wondering the same thing, but other than that, this was unique like always, I love Miyazaki's films (: |
| Wonderful film. Very subtle in its criticism of war and populism. I wish the ending would have been a bit less rushed. Other than that, perfect. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
Mon_Diamond said: MaedhrostheTall said: I felt this movie went too fast. That usually happens with dubs for me. i hate it. I felt like the whole pig thing didnt really get elaborated on enough. like.. why IS he a pig? I'm still wondering the same thing, but other than that, this was unique like always, I love Miyazaki's films (: The reason he is a pig is cuz he felt like one when he was the only one of his squad to survive; he blamed himself for not saving them or surviving when his friends didn't and felt ashamed for that. I think the main theme here is you become what you believe you are. In the end he redeems himself and gains back his confidence. |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| I liked it, only it didn't feel like a Miyazaki film. 7/10 |
NateXsama said: I liked it, only it didn't feel like a Miyazaki film. 7/10 All that flying didn't tip you off? ^_^ |
Hakuromatsu said: NateXsama said: I liked it, only it didn't feel like a Miyazaki film. 7/10 All that flying didn't tip you off? ^_^ Flying aside, still didn't feel like a Miyazaki film, which was a let down. |
NateXsama said: I liked it, only it didn't feel like a Miyazaki film. 7/10 Well, interestingly, it is probably the movie Miyazaki regards as the most personal of his work. In the details it's 100% Miyazaki. There is magical realism, there are flying machines, there is a pig... and in the story and characterization of the main character the political thoughts of the author are pretty fully shown. I think this is as close to be typical Miyazaki as, say, Spirited Away, the only thing that changes is the intended audience. |
| Simply G R E A T !!! I've just rewatched it, touching and very funny, what else??? |
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| Although the ending was somewhat lackluster, that final post-credits shot of Porco flying toward the horizon with the film bidding us "The End" is enough for this viewer to shed a single manly tear in tribute. Porco Rosso is definitely one of the great characters of anime; a pig of his own mind who, like Cyrano de Bergerac, may be physically repellent, but demonstrates great sensitivity and honor in his actions; a free spirit who lives his passions and takes to the skies in pursuit of his dreams. It was refreshing to see a character in a Mizayaki film - whose work often encourages communal living and self-sacrifice - who embodies the spirit of individualism and recognizes the senselessness of blindly following authority at the cost of ones freedom. "Better a pig than a fascist." You said it, Porco! Beautiful film. |
SymphoniusJun 10, 2012 2:32 PM
| "Truth can always be found deep in the dungeon." ~ Balmung of the Azure Sky |
utopianwizard said: This anime looks back at films like Casablanca with the famous line in the Moroccan nightclub, "Of all the gin joints in all of the towns in all of the world, she walks into mine." Humphrey Bogart's character says of his lost and one and only love in the world. This classic World War Two film about espionage and war and petty corrupt politics in battle against the anti heroes of the local smugglers, thieves and crooks who had their own piratical code of ethics, is clearly the source of this film's spirit. Bogart, a world class actor, was not a pretty man. He was a man's man with harsh features and more like the common man of the day, struggling to survive by his wits. The main character, in this film, Porco Rossi, by his dialogue and by his mannerisms emulates Bogart's character in Casablanca so beautifully. So we are looking at an anime film which is showing respect for the great films of yesteryear. With its emphasis on stereotypical characterizations, Porco Rossi is spoofing the old films of the thirties and forties. All the adventure takes place in a world where there was still a vast area of 'unknown territory' in the world from the perspective of Western civilization, the Europeans and Americans. The foreign countries to the East where pirates are still active, etc, where like a magnet to the film makers of that era, and it was a rich field to draw from storywise. Porco Rossi is rich in the techniques of that era from the characterizations to the dialogue to the themes --- all of what constitutes great literature. It is a delightful eyeful physically and spiritually. Just wonderful insights. Thank you. |
| Wow! This is just one of those movies I am kicking myself for not seeing sooner. Probably one of my favorite ghibli films. |
| It's going to be extremely hard to choose wether this or princess mononoke becomes my favourite Ghibli film. Truly an amazing movie! |
| Porco and Fio are amazing characters. |
Veethorn said: Funny thing is, if you were watching the same subs as me and talking about that same scene, that's not what he really said. He said if I'm not flying then I'm just a pig or something like that.A Pig's gotta fly! OT: It was an ok movie. Maybe partly because it was my first time, but I didn't think it was a great movie. It was pretty good and I liked most of it but like a lot of other Miyazaki films, I feel like nothing really happened and a lot of things were left without explanation. |
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| A pig who can't fly is just a ordinary pig! 10/10 |
| EL PSY KONGROO!!! |
| Probably the least favorite of mine from all of Miyazaki's works. Still was a great film though. Porco was getting all the bitches, I didnt like him that much though, Miyazaki doesnt seem to know how to portray a strong male lead, Fio was definitely the most intriguing character. 8/10 Does anyone know if that sequel rumor is true? Seems like Miyazaki has been "working" on it for a few years. I also read that Miyazaki announced he might write it now that hes retired from directing. |
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| Maybe the Miyazaki I like the most. The story is simple, original and somehow romantic, the characters have a lot of dept, the set up during the Roaring Twenties gives this "good ol'time" feeling to the story, the musical theme is poetic and gorgeous, the french dub with the voice of Jean Reno as Porco is perfect ... I love it. 8.03 ... lol I guess you need more explosions everywhere to get a good rank on MAL T_T |
short_reviewFeb 6, 2014 11:53 AM
Raitei said: aghh, the ending was too sudden.. I really wanted to know more about Porco :/ Look closely and you'll see a certain "red plane" next to the dock of Gina's hotel just before the end of the movie ;) The ending was designed to be open for most people, but in fact for people who use their eyes there is only one ending. That's why I love Miyazaki, he is always playing with the viewer. |
| Very good movie,it was funny and enjoyable 8/10 from me. |
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| Well, it was a fine movie, not the best from Ghibli thou. ( In my opinion ofc! ) Wanted to know more about why Porco turned into pig. 8.5/10 |
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| I think Porco Rosso is quite underrated or maybe most people like other things. I believe that when people are looking for a Ghibli movie they're looking for something more fantasylike and they get disappointed when they finish Kurenai no Buta. This has not a flying castle, or a moving one in that case, nor a cat bus. There was just a flying pig... okay, that didn't sound good, but it was more of a symbolic appereance. All right, a pig pilot, not flying pig. The thing is they were just normal people in a normal world: some making a living, others searching for fame, others trying to live peacefully by their ideals, others yearning for a love... the struggle after World War I, the interwar period. I liked the characters, the music, the animation is great as expected of Ghibli, I liked the pirates; they were funny. I aslo liked the scenarios: Porco's hideout, the bar, the full of women aircraft workshop, the vast blue sky, and of course, the Adriatic Sea. And the ending, well that's a secret between us who watched it. Right, Fio? ;D |
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| Hmm, that was interesting! I definitely found it funny with loads of action ... and man, the music was AMAZING! The only thing I'm kind of sad about is how we didn't get to see any of the backstory ... like how he turned into a pig (the "curse") and such :( Plus I didn't think the romance with Fio was really necessary ... thought he would've gone back to Gina who ended up marrying his best friend earlier. Well, I guess that could've happened, it's a secret after all right? :P Great cast of characters though, seeing Fio lay it on to the pirates was pretty funny XD In the end, pretty good to watch, subtitles were a little distracting at times (though the songs that were sung were pretty legit) and the animation was obviously good, considering how old this is ... I guess yeah, I'm only still sad we didn't get to see more of his story :( Still, good to watch, as it came highly recommended from one of my friends. 8/10 |
| This is the second best Ghibli film after Spirited Away imo! |
| I enjoyed this one a fair bit but it doesn't quite stand up there with the Ghibli greats. There were some great one liners from Porco Rosso (the best of which has been mentioned already here "I'd rather be a pig than a fascist") and I enjoyed the fact that this Ghibli film was obviously set in the real world in a recognisable point in history. |
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