| I definitely agree... there was a lot of build-up, only for that abrupt ending. :/ |
| I thought the ending was sweet, a bit cheezy but I liked it nonetheless. |
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| Was sort of abrupt, would love it more if it was not as rushed. Although I do like him throwing the line "Will you marry me?" i thought it was sort of too far-fetched, i mean they barely know each other that well that long yet... (although yes i know that their feelings are mutual, still...) I do think that's a sweet scene though... Aww :') |
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| From Nausicaa.net Q: Wasn't Seiji's proposal a bit too sudden? Many thought so. In the manga, Seiji merely says "I love you", but Miyazaki changed it to "Will you marry me?" Miyazaki defended his position by saying, "I wanted to make a conclusion, a definite sense of ending. Too many young people now are afraid of commitment, and stay on moratorium forever. I wanted these two to just commit to something, not just 'well, we'll see what will happen'." I admit I have mixed feelings towards this ending. I even like more the idea that this is a spontaneous and sudden phrase given by an irreflective Seiji than the interpretation that Miyazaki puts on it, which makes it look like a forced attempt of giving depth and significance to something that in the end doesn't have. The amount of hate that this ending gets is absurd in terms of what it really offers, though. It's a little weak moment but it is so meaningless in the overall work that I can't understand how people take it so seriously. |
jal90 said: From Nausicaa.net The amount of hate that this ending gets is absurd in terms of what it really offers, though. It's a little weak moment but it is so meaningless in the overall work that I can't understand how people take it so seriously. See, the problem is that a bad ending can completely ruin the immersion at a critical time. That wonderful, heartwarming, almost sad feeling I get when a good movie ends and the credits start rolling... well... I didn't have that with this movie. It's sad, because the rest of the movie was very well done. Initially after finishing the movie, I gave it a score of a 6. However, since I've been reflecting on it, I think it deserves a higher score because the overall movie was quite well done. You're right- most of the hate aimed at this movie is absurd. But it's hard to look past it; that "little weak moment" isn't so insignificant. The ending of a movie leaves a lasting impression on people. |
| Eh, I thought it wrapped up nicely. The only thing that seemed a little abrupt to me was Seiji's return. The marriage thing did make me go, "Marriage??!" but they're young. I didn't take it ti nean it was something definite; they still have 3 years of high school and who knows where they'll be at by the end. Their feelings for each other were obvious before Seiji left, and he liked her for even longer... so I just think of it as released excitement and exuberance after finally reuniting. |
| I watched it subbed, knowing full well of the controversial marriage part. Though in my opinion, I reckoned the part where Seiji claimed that he'll meet Shizuku around these parts and behold, they met, is even cheesier. Sure, he got the general location narrowed down thanks to his gramps but that's still pushing it. Then there's the fact that its never hinted that day is the day Seiji's supposed to return (albeit he took an earlier plane); it simply occurred randomly and we're expected to just accept it. Either it's due to fail subs or the ending's really rushed. Oh, and I tried to rewatch the confession part in English dubs; the awkwardness level just multiplied by folds. ಠ_ಠ |
| My reaction was just the opposite, actually. The marriage thing seemed to jibe well with the rest of the 'seriousness' that was exuded by both of those characters. It was the "I love you" that felt tacked on to me. |
| I like it because it gives them a closure. I mean, they're 15, even if it were more realistic to end with an "I love you", the thing is Seiji is going away for many years and if it was realistic their relationship would just slowly fall apart because of their distance. A commitment gives, to the person who is watching, hope it will all work out. |
EdenBagginsAug 13, 2013 5:16 PM
jal90 said: I even like more the idea that this is a spontaneous and sudden phrase given by an irreflective Seiji than the interpretation that Miyazaki puts on it, which makes it look like a forced attempt of giving depth and significance to something that in the end doesn't have. This is precisely my opinion on the matter. Kids be kids yo. It doesn't really mean they'll be married in X years as much as it is indicative of their innocent feelings toward each other. |
| It's a little cliched yes, to have the kids be like 'oh I will certainly marry you in the future' because let's face it, even in Nisekoi this isn't fulfilled. But perhaps what the film captures is that little sparkle of hope: the romanticized, naive perspective of love that we as children must've had. This is one of the weaker part of film, but that's not to say that it didn't properly convey the key theme of the movie. To chase your goal relentlessly and heedlessly, a theme which seemed to have gone well with the ending. |
StellioJan 18, 2014 1:32 PM
CVArk said: My reaction was just the opposite, actually. The marriage thing seemed to jibe well with the rest of the 'seriousness' that was exuded by both of those characters. It was the "I love you" that felt tacked on to me. I agree with you.It represent their determine to overcome the hurdle of the distance to their love,no matter successful or fail,just like the baron and seiji's grandpa. |
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EdenBaggins said: I like it because it gives them a closure. I mean, they're 15, even if it were more realistic to end with an "I love you", the thing is Seiji is going away for many years and if it was realistic their relationship would just slowly fall apart because of their distance. A commitment gives, to the person who is watching, hope it will all work out. Exactly, it's like they wanted something that is a little more concrete than that. Something that would stop them for giving up on their love in the future, since they've have already made that kind of promise, that kind of commitment. I think the ending is perfect, really. If only we we saw a little more of the boy who liked her. |
| Go big or go home bro. I actually didn't mind the marriage part. However, I watched it first dubbed and the dialogue is a bit different. In it Seiji says something along the lines of "Can't you see us getting married in the future...etc" and seems more like a engagement promise than a sudden proposal. They probably changed this for US audiences but I like this version a bit better. However, if I were to choose a marriage line or no marriage line at all, I'd go with him popping the question. |
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