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May 24, 2010 6:32 PM
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Great episode.

Glad to see Kira come back out of retirement.

Looking forward to what happens from here.
Oct 30, 2011 4:37 PM
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good. kiras still got balls. if they were seriously going to break up cagalli and athrun i was going ot drop this
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Nov 22, 2011 1:58 AM
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Andrew and ramius???? After mwu? well, i like andrew too! kyahaha.

Freedom is BACK!!!! finally!
Feb 10, 2012 4:26 PM
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Finally! good ol' group returned to spot light. good to see they managed to fix eh.. well rebuild Freedom.
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Oct 9, 2012 7:39 AM
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Wasn't Orb's policy to let both naturals and coordinators live together? So what's the problem with marrying Athrun? The question is - was Orb's decision to turn down Earth's Alliance demands in the first season wrong, or was it right? And if there was the possibility to return to that time and rethink their choice - would it be the same, or no? If the decision was right at that time - this situation is no different, so is she going to destroy Orb again - YES, if she has to! It's not her fault, but it's the only decision! The nation isn't her toy - that's why Cagalli has to take responsibility, be firm and do not let another politics to take the wrong way, betraying ideals of the nation. Where's her anger she's shown before? Her problem is - she's too immature and she can't make difficult decision. And it's after all the hardships she has gone through...
It's making so annoyed, I just can't stand this pile of bullshit anymore.
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May 9, 2013 9:52 PM
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good. kiras still got iron balls. if they were seriously going to break up cagalli and athrun i was going ot drop this

Fixed.
Jun 21, 2013 12:25 PM
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Wasn't Orb's policy to let both naturals and coordinators live together? So what's the problem with marrying Athrun?

Yeah right? But I guess it's because Orb is in the alliance now and are fighting coordinators, so Cagalli marrying a coordinator wouldn't be the best idea (not that they were planning to get married so soon anyways...) damn that Yuna, his voice makes me cringe, and he's so forceful. Why can't Cagalli just firmly tell him that she doesn't want to get married? Marriage can't be done without consent, obviously. So if Cagalli says no, then Yuna hypothetically can't do much about it unless he wants to threaten her.

I never cared that much about Kira in the first season, but this episode was great. He went into seed mode right away after being in Freedom (how nostalgic). It was really sad to see the coordinators commit suicide despite Kira trying to keep them alive.

And also, I forgot how much I love the peaceful moments in Gundam Seed, like when Murrue was talking to Andrew...so nice and calm.
Feb 14, 2014 7:56 AM
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I like this episode, it was a nice change of pace to see the lives of the archangel crew. I really dislike Yuna though, Cagalli should just say No. That's what I'd do in her situation.

I also liked the scene with Kira on the beach. Aww, the two birdies are so cute <3
May 8, 2014 3:35 PM
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Oh my gosh, I've lost all respect for Cagalli (based on the preview for next ep). If she actually goes through with the marriage---I mean jeez, can't Arthrun leave his woman alone for a week without having to worry about her MARRYING a different guy!!!

What is wrong with her?! Pretty soon I'm going to have to discontinue my support for the Arthrun x Cagalli ship if she doesn't start acting like she has some sense

Aug 9, 2014 8:03 AM

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This episode answered my question about Andrew's missing arm reappearing. They clearly showed twice in this episode that it's a fake prosthetic. Although it's odd that Andrew is able to use a prosthetic so well to grip his staff or coffee cup. I feel like they retconned his arm story because they forgot he's supposed to have one arm.
Sep 13, 2014 12:05 AM

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Kira, you haven't lost a damn step. And THEY REBUILT THE FREEDOM and ARCHANGEL!!!

And Cagalli you're going through with the wedding and letting them have their way with you?!?! I've officially lost all hope for you. Stop whining and doing nothing and step it up!!!

Also it looks like Durandal is a bad guy after all...I was hoping otherwise.
May 24, 2015 2:34 PM

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(rewatching)

Quite the entrance for Kira and the Freedom.
May 26, 2015 1:09 PM

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It is just like the legend, Kira just launched and disabled everything within a minute. Was pretty funny when they committed sudoku one after another.

The manor action scenes were kinda funny, you have a bunch of Coordinators that are perfect at shooting, and then Ramius owns their ass despite being Natural. Still a better action scene than all of Black Lagoon, at least Ramius dodged the bullets (which was the funniest part, looked pretty bad).

"Your sight, my delight. Will you marry me?"
Aug 16, 2015 5:14 PM
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This was probably my favorite ep so far. Was good to see Kira still kicks ass when he wants too.
I'm digging the prosthetic arm/gun thing too.
Apr 8, 2016 9:58 PM

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Kira is back bitches, too bad him going the pacifist route didn't really matter.
Jul 31, 2017 11:34 AM

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Kira should be the one piloting the Saviour, because that's literally what he's become now. Disabling every mobile in a few seconds without breaking a sweat and shit. I wonder how far the show will push his glorification before I get tired of it.

Meanwhile, Cagalli keeps being pushed around by everyone and their mom, though mainly Yuna and his dad. Losing more faith in her every passing episode. Also,no one else is bothered by the fact that Yuna claimed that Cagalli was a Natural when she clearly went into SEED mode near the end of the first season? They didn't retcon it in the remaster either which means she definitely is a Coordinator, so what gives?
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GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
Jul 31, 2017 11:54 AM

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@Sapewloth You know I never watched SEED this far but here is what I have read once:
Gundam Seed Book said:
Those who possess the SEED factor have the ability to advance to the next stage of human evolution - an ability unrelated to whether the carrier is a Natural or a Coordinator

So, kind of... a proto-Newtype? (but I guess she is the only example appearing on the screen)
Jul 31, 2017 12:07 PM

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@Sapewloth You know I never watched SEED this far but here is what I have read once:
Gundam Seed Book said:
Those who possess the SEED factor have the ability to advance to the next stage of human evolution - an ability unrelated to whether the carrier is a Natural or a Coordinator

So, kind of... a proto-Newtype? (but I guess she is the only example appearing on the screen)
Oh that makes sense then, even though I think the show could've expanded upon the concept of the SEED factor a lot more in its first season.
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Kellhus said:
GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
Sep 1, 2017 2:03 PM
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Kira: Freedom Gundam! Launch!!!!! I'm back, baby!!!!!
Sep 1, 2017 2:25 PM
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Kira: Hyper SEED Mode! Activate!!!!
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FINALLY MOST EPIC EPISODE to come out of Destiny. After 12 episodes, KIRA BACK IN ACTION!
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Aug 10, 2019 3:29 PM

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Good to see Kira kicking ass again, even if he is unhappy about it.
Jun 19, 2023 5:07 AM

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man, going after kids, wth. also they don't seem to be top rate assassins, more like slightly better storm troopers.
Dec 22, 2023 6:18 AM

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Kira, i missed you.
''Touch the darkness inside me''
May 6, 8:15 PM

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Clone of Lacus and now assassins from that terrorist part of Zaft wanted to kill real Lacus, now it's pretty clear who's behind all that stuff.
May 30, 11:23 PM

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We pretty much know who can order such a thing as to kill the original Lacus Clyne.
That was just... sad.
What's more sadder is how Lacus tried to stop Kira from fighting again.
But the saddest of all is that even if Kira didn't kill their assassinators, they themselves killed themselves.
A tragedy indeed.

P.S. for the preview: Cagalli really needs to step up her game, as she will be NTR'd at this rate.
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and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it,
is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service.
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Murrue kicking ass... and Freedom is back too

Great episode

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