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Aug 22, 2023 10:21 AM
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Azudora is kind of like an anomaly and hard to exactly trust. On the other hand, he's an important character for this arc and I believe he makes a difference in this battle.

Feels like they really made the latest episode more tense. Azudora is worth keeping an eye on tbh.


Aug 22, 2023 12:07 PM
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So, not only do these humans possess powers at the level of heroes, but they can also regenerate? That's seriously OP. Reminds me of King Baldwin from Kingdom of Heaven, though it doesn't raise any suspicion, right?

It's amusing how during the emergency meeting, Helck is considered the fifth biggest threat. This human king, functioning as a different kind of "hero," adds an intriguing twist. He's not just a feeble human – the guy wields enough magic to make use of this overpowering resurrection spell.

Azudra's close call while sending a care package to Vermilio is quite the scene, and our comical bird companion nonchalantly devours the orange, leaving the rest to become kindling. Well, that plan went up in smoke!


Aug 22, 2023 12:31 PM
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Another awesome Helck episode, not as much action as the last couple weeks but some really important worldbuilding and background info on the awakened humans and their king.

I wonder if the king is actually someone from the past? I feel like Azudra’s story about the hero and king he fought before wasn’t just there for the heck of it. Either way, he’s not gonna be easy to take down.

Speaking of Azudra, the fact he’s considered the “weakest” of the generals is insane. The demons definitely have the advantage in overall power, but how do you beat an enemy that can just throw wave after wave at you endlessly. Eventually one side will crack. Not to mention the humans get a zenkai boost every time they fight and die.

This isn’t a problem you can just throw strength at to fix. Using Helck to bridge the gap between humans and demons or taking out the king are the best two options.

Azudra wasted all that energy on that portal only for the stuff they sent thru to get used as fire fodder lmao. I guess it’s still getting put to good use.

Good ep as usual.
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Aug 22, 2023 12:38 PM
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Some good info this episode, but seriously lacking in comedy. The ending was less funny and more just frustrating. they've spent too much time on that darn island it's wearing thin.
Aug 22, 2023 12:38 PM
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Piwi Noooo

Wonder how they will get off the island I’m guessing it has something to do with the witch they are waiting to see.
Aug 22, 2023 12:42 PM
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LoL that ending. All that effort and fruit got eaten by the birdie and letter got burned. LOL
Aug 22, 2023 12:52 PM
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Every episode so far has covered 3 chapters. I wonder if there's ever going to be a third cours, since at this rate we will have just 72 chapters out of 106.
Aug 22, 2023 1:14 PM
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Great episode, this is.
Aug 22, 2023 1:28 PM
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i keep enjoying this show

it was an interesting episode, we learned some few things...
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Aug 22, 2023 1:36 PM

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Nah, I can't laugh at the fact that Piwi used the paper as firewood. Oh man, postponing their return even longer...
Aug 22, 2023 2:13 PM

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xdiesp said:
Every episode so far has covered 3 chapters. I wonder if there's ever going to be a third cours, since at this rate we will have just 72 chapters out of 106.
Keep in mind that some chapters are two-parters, like 52, 53, 63, or 69. There's also the fact that some chapters are a bit shorter than the ones that have been covered so far. My guess is that it will probably end up covering up to a couple chapters before 72. I actually think the end of chapter 69 would make the perfect place to end on.
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Aug 22, 2023 2:32 PM
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Again with the villain characters explaining stuff for absolutely no reason ...
(Also, too much game mechanics for plot)
Aug 22, 2023 2:52 PM
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Kind of a boring episode tbh.
Aug 22, 2023 3:46 PM

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Since the human heroes regenerate and get stronger each time they're resurrected I figured they could capture and imprison them although Azudora's plan to get to the king would be the best but capture could temporarily work too.

Too bad we didn't get much Vermilio screen time and that Azudora's letter, compass thingie, and orange got eaten and burned but it looks like Vermilio and Helck will use the witch's assistance to know which way to go on the raft that Helck built.
Aug 22, 2023 3:49 PM

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Azudora with such a great group of items to help Vamirio but it physically hurt me when her and Piwi used them to cook...
Aug 22, 2023 4:46 PM
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that bird continues to be the best f*cking character out of any anime


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Aug 22, 2023 5:06 PM
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I want to laugh but that ending just hurt a little too much
Aug 22, 2023 5:06 PM
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The Human King is terryfiying, I love it so much. I'm calling it now, he is somehow Helck's brother who he supposedly killed.

That dang chicken ate the fruit and burned the tools that Helck and Vermillion could've used to get back !! It's so frustrating, I really hope they find a way back to the Empire soon !!

Aug 22, 2023 5:21 PM

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That damn bird just wasted Azudra's effort.
Aug 22, 2023 5:31 PM

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Rococo sure can draw some cute little illustrations.
Aug 22, 2023 6:08 PM
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The fight against the winked knights has currently stopped but in anticipation of their next attack the demons are all doing their best to save themselves.
Aug 22, 2023 7:23 PM

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Yet another trash episode with lazy infodumping and bare minimum animation.

How convenient for Azudra to be so old that he objectively knew how the awakened humans have their achiles heel with their king resurrecting them.
Aug 22, 2023 8:13 PM

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Lots of stuff happened!

  • Azudora has all the angels cornered, but the other angels shoot the captured ones, and some even commit suicide because they are have unlimited lives, respawning at their King's room
  • The Demon spy sees this
  • Infinite lives = cheat code, Azudora reasons the only way to win is to take out the spell caster (from his past experience)
  • New plan, KILL the Human King!
  • Azudora almost loses his life sending a message to Vamirio
  • But the green cute chicken Piwi uses the message as FUEL!


Piwi, you numbskull, you're fired! # Facepalm

Aug 22, 2023 9:15 PM

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one word from this ep: idiot bird's 🙄😤
Aug 22, 2023 10:20 PM
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One second thought...yea the birdie is stupid.
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Aug 22, 2023 10:21 PM
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azudra put in so much care and effort to make a portal and send a care package to vermilio just for that bird to turn it into kindling. kind of irks me that it didn't even bother looking at the paper tbh.
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Aug 22, 2023 10:29 PM
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So these humans are reincarnated as heroes and they always respawn and are always stronger everytime they come back. They're like Apocalypse, from DC. How wonder how they're meeting with the human king will go. Can't wait to see what he is.

I guess where at those episodes where it's just info about the world.
Aug 22, 2023 11:16 PM

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At Castle Urum, Azudra easily trounces the thousand-strong army of the winged knights with the trees, and he's easily one of the strongest Elite Lords, contrary to him proclaiming that he's the weakest. But there's another army of bowmen targeting the winged knights, which prompted Azudra to question what is going on, which to the humans, this is just the first test run of many since they can be awakened and resurrected over and over. And Asta, stumbling upon the stronghold of the Human King's quarters, while she has got a good deal of intel, she has to be careful of them as well. Even at this time, everyone was able to have a rest with coffee. though Asta comes in with her juicy report that confirms that the humans can be resurrected. The strategy meeting outside Castle Urum with Roroco being the illustrator, they assimilate the humans' ranking against the demons, which while the Average Joe has no threat, the resurrection would increase the threat level, even against New-World Lifeforms. And at worse, the Empire would be gone, with the humans taking its place, and a new world reborn. It's clear that they need an effective strategy, and stopping that resurrection is the key, which lies with the Human King.

Azudra has experience fighting someone similar to that effect, though that magic is more powerful than his Deep Green Contract. and its spellcaster must be someone magically inclined in order for the spell to be effective. But they have a lot of work to do amping their defenses, starting with Castle Thor, then working their way up to the Human King. The utmost emergency for the demon realm, though for the catgirl twins of Ista and Asta, Hyura had a hand training them both, which explains their closeness. Azudra going to the Gate to resummon it as small as possible to send items to Vermilio, it took a lot of his magic, but the deed is a success, and he hopes that she can see the items.

Unforunately, Piwi picked up the items, especially the mandarin orange and ate Vermilio's favorite food, plus the Deep Green Paper letter and the short wood into the fire for fodder. YELP...

DAMN BIRD! Wasted Azudra's effort, all for the comedy...
Aug 22, 2023 11:48 PM

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We got an episode with a pretty serious tone this week, very little comedy and our two main characters not showing up until the very end.
It was okay I guess, but I've really missed Helck/Vermilio silly interactions for sure :)
Aug 23, 2023 4:13 AM
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Heavy infodump episode this week, wich makes sense considering the source material was the same, could have been improved a little with a better presentation though. So far the adaptation is simply decent and nothing more, I want to complain a little, but considering that stuff like Biscuit Hammer's anime happened, I will consider Helck's situation good enough for now (really hoping they put the effort on the crucial moments later on)

Voice casting and music have been great on the other hand, although I am not really feeling Sugita as the Human King, in the manga I always imagined a more creepy voice. Dunno who could have voiced him instead, but as of now he is the only character whose voice's choice I haven't liked.
Aug 23, 2023 5:21 AM
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lol. Everything happened in this episode is funny
Aug 23, 2023 7:31 AM

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Seeing this week's episode makes it absolutely clear.... Judging from this, it is certain that their positions have completely changed. The humans became demons and the demons became humans in this anime story.

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Aug 23, 2023 8:08 AM

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fk that duolingo bird
Aug 23, 2023 10:53 AM
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LOL that bird is funny as hell
Aug 23, 2023 12:24 PM
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There's no way Piwi just did that ☠️

Stormy_77 said:
Lots of stuff happened!

  • Azudora has all the angels cornered, but the other angels shoot the captured ones, and some even commit suicide because they are have unlimited lives, respawning at their King's room
  • The Demon spy sees this
  • Infinite lives = cheat code, Azudora reasons the only way to win is to take out the spell caster (from his past experience)
  • New plan, KILL the Human King!
  • Azudora almost loses his life sending a message to Vamirio
  • But the green cute chicken Piwi uses the message as FUEL!


Piwi, you numbskull, you're fired! # Facepalm


It's interesting that the Humans also didn't want to be killed by the demons. They said in this episode that they didn't want to get caught, but does something happen if a demon kills one of them 🤔

Frosteek said:
xdiesp said:
Every episode so far has covered 3 chapters. I wonder if there's ever going to be a third cours, since at this rate we will have just 72 chapters out of 106.
Keep in mind that some chapters are two-parters, like 52, 53, 63, or 69. There's also the fact that some chapters are a bit shorter than the ones that have been covered so far. My guess is that it will probably end up covering up to a couple chapters before 72. I actually think the end of chapter 69 would make the perfect place to end on.


I heard that the later chapters have longer page lengths too? If we look at the volume numbers and this ends at volume 7/8, then it looks like the rest of the chapters can perfectly fit in a 12 ep season 2

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It seems that every show of this type has to have annoyingly unfunny mascots that mess things up.

Fuck the Duolingo bird.
Aug 23, 2023 2:13 PM
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Ohh. so that's what the witch looks like. didn't expect her to look young and not your stereotypical old granny.

Luffy4719 said:
Stormy_77 said:
Lots of stuff happened!

  • Azudora has all the angels cornered, but the other angels shoot the captured ones, and some even commit suicide because they are have unlimited lives, respawning at their King's room
  • The Demon spy sees this
  • Infinite lives = cheat code, Azudora reasons the only way to win is to take out the spell caster (from his past experience)
  • New plan, KILL the Human King!
  • Azudora almost loses his life sending a message to Vamirio
  • But the green cute chicken Piwi uses the message as FUEL!


Piwi, you numbskull, you're fired! # Facepalm


It's interesting that the Humans also didn't want to be killed by the demons. They said in this episode that they didn't want to get caught, but does something happen if a demon kills one of them 🤔
Did they say that? i only heard being captured, not being killed. the humans don't want to be captured alive by the demons to leak out information.

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killerwave2015 said:
Luffy4719 said:


It's interesting that the Humans also didn't want to be killed by the demons. They said in this episode that they didn't want to get caught, but does something happen if a demon kills one of them 🤔
Did they say that? i only heard being captured, not being killed. the humans don't want to be captured alive by the demons to leak out information.
killerwave2015 said:
Luffy4719 said:


It's interesting that the Humans also didn't want to be killed by the demons. They said in this episode that they didn't want to get caught, but does something happen if a demon kills one of them 🤔
Did they say that? i only heard being captured, not being killed. the humans don't want to be captured alive by the demons to leak out information.
killerwave2015 said:
Did they say that? i only heard being captured, not being killed. the humans don't want to be captured alive by the demons to leak out information.
I don't think they actually said that. I'm talking about the first awakened hero they fought that got killed by the human reinforcements a few eps ago. But tbh, I think I was remembering wrong as Helck told the others not to kill him

killerwave2015 said:
Ohh. so that's what the witch looks like. didn't expect her to look young and not your stereotypical old granny.
Did they show the witch's appearance. I don't recall seeing her

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This episode almost feels like an in between episode since it picked up from previous and and started leading into another. At least they gave more info on what is going on, that seems like a big issue that the awakened humans get to respawn endlessly as is.


Stupid little bird thing burning all that stuff without investigating it lol
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fk that duolingo bird
you can fk all you want but he still fluffy
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Luffy4719 said:
killerwave2015 said:
Did they say that? i only heard being captured, not being killed. the humans don't want to be captured alive by the demons to leak out information.
killerwave2015 said:
Did they say that? i only heard being captured, not being killed. the humans don't want to be captured alive by the demons to leak out information.
I don't think they actually said that. I'm talking about the first awakened hero they fought that got killed by the human reinforcements a few eps ago. But tbh, I think I was remembering wrong as Helck told the others not to kill him
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killerwave2015 said:
Ohh. so that's what the witch looks like. didn't expect her to look young and not your stereotypical old granny.
Did they show the witch's appearance. I don't recall seeing her
oh okay. perhaps helck knew even back then that killing the winged knight heroes would only resurrect them even stronger. also they showed the witch in the next ep preview. just her back. didn't get to see her face/front
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Oh great, another role with Sugita, that feels completely off. Gintoki absolutely ruined him for me.
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Luffy4719 said:
Stormy_77 said:
Lots of stuff happened!

  • Azudora has all the angels cornered, but the other angels shoot the captured ones, and some even commit suicide because they are have unlimited lives, respawning at their King's room
  • The Demon spy sees this
  • Infinite lives = cheat code, Azudora reasons the only way to win is to take out the spell caster (from his past experience)
  • New plan, KILL the Human King!
  • Azudora almost loses his life sending a message to Vamirio
  • But the green cute chicken Piwi uses the message as FUEL!


Piwi, you numbskull, you're fired! # Facepalm


It's interesting that the Humans also didn't want to be killed by the demons. They said in this episode that they didn't want to get caught, but does something happen if a demon kills one of them 🤔

Oooh I never thought of that! I just assumed they all get reincarnated no matter who kills them? But now that you mention it ... a lot died from "friendly" fire, and there was that one who hara-kiri'd himself by cutting his onw throat with his own sword (balls of steel move). There like ... no way none of them got killed by demons? At least some of them maybe? Perhaps that means they don't reincarnate? Hmm. Food for thought. We'll have to watch more to find out.

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Oooh I never thought of that! I just assumed they all get reincarnated no matter who kills them? But now that you mention it ... a lot died from "friendly" fire, and there was that one who hara-kiri'd himself by cutting his onw throat with his own sword (balls of steel move). There like ... no way none of them got killed by demons? At least some of them maybe? Perhaps that means they don't reincarnate? Hmm. Food for thought. We'll have to watch more to find out.
No, pretty sure you were right and they get reincarnated no matter who kills them. One of them says: "Well, you're too much of a softie to actually kill us. So it's a good thing we made sure to have insurance." In other words, the insurance was to be killed by friendly fire in case they can't kill the demons and the demons capture them but refuse to kill them. On top of that, Azudora's plan to kill the king wouldn't make any sense if the demons could simply kill the humans.
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Stormy_77 said:
Lots of stuff happened!

  • Azudora has all the angels cornered, but the other angels shoot the captured ones, and some even commit suicide because they are have unlimited lives, respawning at their King's room
  • The Demon spy sees this
  • Infinite lives = cheat code, Azudora reasons the only way to win is to take out the spell caster (from his past experience)
  • New plan, KILL the Human King!
  • Azudora almost loses his life sending a message to Vamirio
  • But the green cute chicken Piwi uses the message as FUEL!


Piwi, you numbskull, you're fired! # Facepalm


The respawn concept isn't new. Just look back at old RPG games. You die and respawn back at the church. Now every NPCs have the respawn option like the actual players but near the King.

Kinda felt the log horigon vibe in this ep.
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Stormy_77 said:
Oooh I never thought of that! I just assumed they all get reincarnated no matter who kills them? But now that you mention it ... a lot died from "friendly" fire, and there was that one who hara-kiri'd himself by cutting his onw throat with his own sword (balls of steel move). There like ... no way none of them got killed by demons? At least some of them maybe? Perhaps that means they don't reincarnate? Hmm. Food for thought. We'll have to watch more to find out.
No, pretty sure you were right and they get reincarnated no matter who kills them. One of them says: "Well, you're too much of a softie to actually kill us. So it's a good thing we made sure to have insurance." In other words, the insurance was to be killed by friendly fire in case they can't kill the demons and the demons capture them but refuse to kill them. On top of that, Azudora's plan to kill the king wouldn't make any sense if the demons could simply kill the humans.
 The insurance concept makes sense. If the demons just refuse to kill them and imprison them, then they can't attack further, and the number of "yuusha" Hero infinite respawn troops will get fewer and fewer until they don't have sufficient forces to mount any further attacks. So the insurance of friendly fire self-killing troops ensures the humans will always have a sufficient force of cannon fodders to field for their invasion. Very sneaky. I like this scenario.

Azudora plan is more like if the initial "reincarnate / respawn" guy is gone, then so is the reincarnate ability. Which we can only hope it works this way, because who knows if the reincarnation is really tied to hte person who made that contract? Azudora is going off one incident which may be an exception to the rule, who even knows what kind of loopholes that power has?

xkazutox said:
The respawn concept isn't new. Just look back at old RPG games. You die and respawn back at the church. Now every NPCs have the respawn option like the actual players but near the King.

Kinda felt the log horigon vibe in this ep.

Yes there's definitely a RPG respawn aspect that seems tied to the human king. Does it seem like all the hero angel troops are NPCs? There's at least 2 or 3 that maybe graduate to side character. It still feels horribly unfair for one side to have this power.

Haven't seen Log Horizon so ... can't comment on that :(

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Good episode glad we got more lore on the humans reviving.
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traed said:
This episode almost feels like an in between episode since it picked up from previous and and started leading into another. At least they gave more info on what is going on, that seems like a big issue that the awakened humans get to respawn endlessly as is.


Stupid little bird thing burning all that stuff without investigating it lol
The author be pulling a one punch man by delaying the arrival of the hero until the last minute. wonder if piwi is considered a main role because he contributes a major part of the story by stalling helck
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Stupid bird-brain!
And the plot thickens; layout of the world, summaries of the enemy threats.
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The winged knights reincarnate instantly That bird is a problem for Vermikins
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