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Nov 5, 2022 7:58 AM
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I wonder what other historical secrets are hidden in this series, especially those relevant to the plot. This episode also had Shouxue do her usual thing and uncover mystery with her talent.

Impressive work tbh.
Nov 5, 2022 9:24 AM
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I don't know man, but when that explanation arc started, with the whole winter/summer king thing that happened ... My brain just completely went off. I guess it explains the origin of our heroine's position, but still, i find it a bit convoluded.
Nov 5, 2022 9:39 AM
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A jade pendant belonging to a young princess who died escaping from the clutches of the Luan Dynasty due to her beauty, and the plot thickens when the ghosts of past are seen according to Shouxue. In this case, it's Princess Mingzhu who died beneath the willow tree, and since this also affects Gaojun in one way or another, his only option is to go to Xue Xuyong to discern more about who Shouxue really is, not just the Raven Consort by name and position.

Baiyan, Niao Lian, it's clear that what Xuyong is trying to tell Gaojun is of the real origin of the Raven Consort's past, and when confronted with Shouxue herself, as adamant as she is with him trying to understand what's going on, it's the story between the Winter and Summer King. In essence, Ancient China having multiple kings (in this case is 2) to form the basis for the Raven Consort of generations past of a bitter spat between kings (Summer King vs. Winter King for the affection of their emperors, that the one unforunate lady become the Raven Consort to shut her away), and Shouxue, simply had no choice but to follow the tradition, as Niao Lian became Yeyoushen, and that her life depends on not stepping one step outside of the Ye Ming Palace.

Jiu-Jiu being possessed by Luan Bingyue, what a cliffhanger.
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Nov 5, 2022 9:50 AM
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Omg easily the best episode so far, if this doesn’t make anitrendz top 10.. smh

Not a lot of action, but the drama and tension was so palpable today. Loved when Shoxue snapped on the emperor for “pitying her” thought she would slap him too. We don’t often see Shoxue get violent but given all she’s been through and the origin of the raven consort it makes so much sense now why the emperor coming around annoys her sm.

Personally loved the lore bits. Ancient china having two kings and needing them to coexist is a really interesting way to explain all the wars lol. The Luan emperor and the first raven consorts story was really tragic :/

Nooo not jiu jiu, I swear if that evil Luan sorcerer hurts my baby we will riot.
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Nov 5, 2022 10:09 AM
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Last episode mystery was overshadowed by the Winter King story.

Shouxue keeping that anti-social but chill, and the Emperor ended pushing too much, story was told, and the atmosphere got really heavy. Thankfully, for the better or worse, Bingyue appeared to break the ice.
Nov 5, 2022 10:12 AM
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OK, so a 3 parter it seems.

I'm not gonna lie, the montage looked both cool and corny. They have to cram so much in this episode, but they manage it. Barely. I am willing to give this a 5 if next episode delivers well. After all Anime is different than Light Novel. All of previous changes made sense, this one slightly less, but it's for visual effect. After all people would get tired of 10 minute exposition if there was no movement. I don't know how I would have made it different.

Still very enjoyable episode if you were never spoiled by Light Novel. And only differences are I guess nitpicks and less information. I'd probably prefer if this was 18 or 24 episode long Season. Having to cram such long chapters into episodes is almost impossible without a loss of fidelity. Yet somehow they are very close and the story is very enjoyable and will drive more people towards the fandom. I hope so at least.
Nov 5, 2022 10:22 AM
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The lore was great and all, but it feels like too much done in too short of a time. It just doesn't feel as meaningful or significant as it should be. The pacing of the show is what holds it back a little, as it really would benefit from the characters and backstories being fleshed out a bit more.
Nov 5, 2022 10:41 AM
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ngl, that goddess looks scarier and more terrifying than worshipful.
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Nov 5, 2022 10:41 AM
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Our gril is trapped as the raven consort by the goddess
Nov 5, 2022 10:42 AM
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Could a Ln reader tell me where the adaptation is at the end of this episode, and if these 13 episodes will be a complete adaptation or simply a season 1 (given the rhythm) ?
Thank you in advance !
Nov 5, 2022 11:36 AM

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So the Yeyoushen is like the "be home before the streetlights come on" thing. Interesting.
It's sad how Ni Luan (who played the role as the Yeyoushen that night) chose her to be the Raven Consort.

The origin story has cleared many things up. The whole winter king and summer king gives off a yin yang kind of balance.
But for Shouxue to bear all of that while being secluded must've been painful.

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Could a Ln reader tell me where the adaptation is at the end of this episode, and if these 13 episodes will be a complete adaptation or simply a season 1 (given the rhythm) ?
Thank you in advance !


The light novels in Japanese are completed with 7 volumes. They may or may not adapt it all in this anime. Or they'll skip minor details and finish it.
Seven Seas will start an official English translation of the novels next year so I'm not sure many will know.

Unless there is a fan translation.
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Nov 5, 2022 12:16 PM
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It was nice to see more explanations about the origins of the Raven Consort, and the explanation of why she can't go out from the inner palace. Love between the protagonists is developed well, but I also wanna see more mysteries
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Nov 5, 2022 12:19 PM

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No episode last week was a bummer, but I felt this week's return really made up for it when shit just got real. It got exciting with revealing the true history behind the first white-haired summer king and first Raven Consort. To think the Raven Consort was not a priestess of the monstrous human-faced bird goddess, but a "king" in her own right. I guess that's why they named the ending theme song "Summer Snow".

It took me by surprise when Jiu-Jiu got possessed and taken hostage by the ghost of the sorcerer dude. Damn you cliffhanger!
Nov 5, 2022 12:32 PM

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A whole bunch of lore dropped on us in this episode so there was a lot to take in, but it was nice to learn the history of the Raven Consort. I feel like this info should have been spaced out a little more though.
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Nov 5, 2022 1:11 PM

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What an interesting and heartbreaking story about the raven consort
And those last few seconds gave me chills
Nov 5, 2022 1:15 PM

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That night that little girl was saved, but her life was taken away. That's sad.
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Nov 5, 2022 1:51 PM
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I don't know man, but when that explanation arc started, with the whole winter/summer king thing that happened ... My brain just completely went off. I guess it explains the origin of our heroine's position, but still, i find it a bit convoluded.

I had to rewatch 3 timesvto get it
Nov 5, 2022 4:27 PM
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Idk what people thought was confusing about this episode? I understood it pretty easily, I thought it made sense considering that we have a Raven Consort in the palace with no explanation for it until now, so now we know why Jusetsu is there, and we also know how she got her powers and ended up in the position she's in, it also gives us some extra context to the bird goddess creature in the OP. Tbh this episode answered a lot of questions for me, granted it was a bit of a lore dump but I don't see what people found confusing about it.
Nov 5, 2022 6:40 PM

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Explanation arc rofl. A great episode with a lot of interesting lore and background info presented to us, even if it was told in a huge exposition dump.
Nov 5, 2022 7:21 PM

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Wow! That was a lot to squeeze into one episode! Is the Raven Consort going to hook up with the Emperor? There sure is some young-love-energy between them. Is that where we are headed? A proper romance to unite the summer and winter kingdoms?
Nov 5, 2022 10:25 PM

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holy shit what an episode but boi the info dump. felt like my brain stopped working. will have to rewatch this episode.

ok i rewatched the episode and it is much much clearer now. the whole lore of how raven consorts came to exist, the story of the goddess, why shouxue can't leave, winter king, summer king, everything is clearer now.

they didn't pursue that willow princess matter though. i thought shouxue would do something to make her reach paradise.

the cliffhanger though. the notorious sorcerrer is at it again. i wonder what he wants.

the matter of emperor's mum and ding's ghost appearing is an issue unresolved too.

i pretty damn great episode overall. enjoyed a lot. took a rewatch but it's fine. probably the best one story wise.

5/5.
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Nov 5, 2022 10:27 PM
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It'd be real cool if they stopped ending episodes in the middle of a scene
Nov 5, 2022 11:27 PM

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Yessss finally the lore dump I've been waiting for. So exciting to get so many of my questions answered, as well as hiking up the tension to like 100. Also damn that cliff hanger...
Nov 6, 2022 12:14 AM

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It was quiet common in the old times for tribes to have two kings, one is responsible for the sacred and the other for leading the army and dealing with daily matters. Just think about the roman pontifex maximus whose original role was to maintain the pax deorum or "peace of the gods." An other example is the hungarian tribes' nominal or sacred leader who was styled kende, while their military commander bore the title gyula. The background story was a typical parable about the old king who, because of wanting more power or in the blindness of passion, leaves the old ways, defiles the sacred, and in consequence the whole kingdom gets punished. Then comes an outsider, who rises to be the new king and who finds a solution to circumvent the tradition while maintaining its observances in a way that pleases the Gods. Then rises a new dynasty to power that herites a tradition but because its meaning and role has been forgotten by men only the institutional facade remains. Everything is set for a disaster to happen.
The Summer king is choosen by man either through heritage or by war, while the Winter King is choosen by the Godess herself so she couldn't be put down by man only by the will of the Godess herself. It makes sense now why she has had the courage all the time to defy the emperor himself, because she is on the same level than him.
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Nov 6, 2022 1:01 AM

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So basically Shouxue is the winter king and the emperor is the summer king but she doesn't have much power as far as leading the people and being able to leave the area, unlike the emperor. I think the current emperor will offer to declare her winter king or maybe propose to her but something/someone will probably try to prevent that. This definitely got more interesting.
Nov 6, 2022 2:55 AM

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They still haven't explained anything about the ghost of the mother and teacher that are haunting the emperor D:

And what's wrong with the sorceror Bingxue dude.
Please don't hurt Jiujiu and stop harassing poor Shouxue :/
Nov 6, 2022 3:44 AM
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The storytelling of the Raven Consort is so interesting and yet we get an evil spirit taking over Jiujiu!
Nov 6, 2022 4:22 AM

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Aagghhhh...!! Please release the novel quickly Seven-Seas..!! This is the type of work that will thrive for me as a book.
Nov 6, 2022 5:08 AM
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YosepRA said:
Aagghhhh...!! Please release the novel quickly Seven-Seas..!! This is the type of work that will thrive for me as a book.


Novel is great but also anime is so good
Not bad at all
Nov 6, 2022 5:09 AM
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Anime of the season for me
Nov 6, 2022 9:42 AM

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I knew this anime would be good o/
Trying my best with english d-_-b
Nov 6, 2022 1:44 PM

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Seems like this one is much more of an info dump than the other episodes.
Was still alright, with finding out the lore, but presented not in the most interesting of ways.
Nov 6, 2022 2:48 PM
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tendi foi nada kkkkkkkk, mas mesmo assim achei a historia da consorte corvo muito linda, e outra cois, QUE ENDING MEUS AMIGOS.
Nov 6, 2022 3:22 PM

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So that's the truth of the raven consort... Pretty sad

Nov 6, 2022 5:43 PM

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hai_X_is said:
So the Yeyoushen is like the "be home before the streetlights come on" thing. Interesting.
It's sad how Ni Luan (who played the role as the Yeyoushen that night) chose her to be the Raven Consort.

The origin story has cleared many things up. The whole winter king and summer king gives off a yin yang kind of balance.
But for Shouxue to bear all of that while being secluded must've been painful.

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JaysonNnN said:
Could a Ln reader tell me where the adaptation is at the end of this episode, and if these 13 episodes will be a complete adaptation or simply a season 1 (given the rhythm) ?
Thank you in advance !


The light novels in Japanese are completd with 7 volumes. They may or may not adapt it all in this anime. Or they'll skip minor details and finish it.
Seven Seas will start an official English translation of the novels next year so I'm not sure many will know.
Unless there is a fan translatio.

Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button.


But in the novel, which volume is until now episode 6
Nov 6, 2022 6:10 PM

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Oh oh! Jusetsu snapped!

Jusetsu revealed the origin of Raven Consort — Winter King. She is tied to the responsibility, can’t desire anything, can’t get too close to anyone and die with secrets.

Hope Ka Koushun would help her out of this predicament, and give her a normal life.
Nov 6, 2022 11:49 PM

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Damn cliffhanger got me good. Definitely the best episode for me so far, that was some great spicy lore dump. It was really interesting to see how every information we had so far tied up to the Raven Consort story. It's going to be great to see how The Emperor and Shouxue will change things.

Bingyue better not hurt Jiu-jiu though or he catching these hands.
Nov 7, 2022 4:33 AM
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Origins of the Raven Consort, it definitely fits the show, it's nice how we're progressively getting more and more elements without feeling too burdening
Nov 7, 2022 7:33 PM
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Ahhhh it appeared, it finally appeared! :notlikeduck: No wonder its used to haunt children, that killer bee-bird god thing is downright frightening.

In all seriousness, I'd be curious to know if Niao Lian is modelled off of a figure in real mythology. I can't help but feel the design just does not fit the aesthetics of the rest of the show, so I'm wondering if it's meant to refer to something else. If you have any insights, please let me know~
Nov 8, 2022 6:33 AM

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That Raven Consort selection thing felt a lot too personal.
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Nov 8, 2022 9:49 AM

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A good story has officially started to be unraveled. I was not expecting the story to become this deep so fast. The pacing is phenomenal, it explains the Ravens Court so well; while explaining why they are so quiet.

This is the best episode that's been produced so far, it'll be interesting to see this story continue.

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Nov 9, 2022 2:47 AM
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i understand why the emperor pities Shouxue. i pity her too. poor Shouxue. i hope they'll find a way to free her. it looks like the emperor fancies her

Nov 9, 2022 6:09 PM
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I think this episode took a good show and moved it up to a great ahow. So many questions about the "world" were answered. With an immediate twist to a cliffhanger ending.
Nov 10, 2022 7:19 PM
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The Emperor is just like a Predator.
50 No's & 1 Yes means YES, leave her alone.
The explanation lost me a bit, maybe it will make sense later.
Nov 12, 2022 3:06 AM

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Finally they reveal the secret of Raven Consort XD
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With the whole "the summer king needs the winter king to mantain peace" and her being captive, his role as emperor has clearly been challenged by himself and there is his romantic interest in her, things are clearly getting more interesting.

The "I pity you" moment was so good, he might mean well but now knowing about the truth behind the role of the Raven Consort it highlights why she's so averse to him, he reminds her of her lack of agency.

The original Raven Consort's story was sad, poor girl.
Nov 14, 2022 10:06 AM

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i swear the plot story is awesomely good !!
Nov 15, 2022 6:21 AM
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That night that little girl was saved, but her life was taken away. That's sad.


This. awww poor girl.
Nov 19, 2022 4:24 PM
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Heavy history of dual kings, conflict, and winter king secluded & imprisoned to keep their country safe. Interesting essentially separation of church & state, but the winter side having serious issues for Shouxue.
Curious how other pieces, Mingzhu, emperor's ghosts connect to this arc. oh hey Bingyue's back possessing Jiujiu.
Nov 20, 2022 4:05 AM

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The truth finally revealed and that was quite shocking. Wonder what course of action they'll take from here on.
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