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Nov 5, 2021 10:26 AM
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Damn, this episode was depressing and it looks like Yuuki is going to need some time to recover physically from her latest injuries.

On the other hand, seeing Nogi in action was an almost sight. Koori's mental state doesn't look too good though...
Nov 5, 2021 12:37 PM
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Very sad episode.

Yuna is lucky to be alive. Hopefully she will recover from those injuries ASAP.

That empty look on Koori's face. She snapped pretty badly. After being treated like a shit, I understand why she's angry and frustrated.



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Nov 5, 2021 12:42 PM
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This episode is pretty sad and devastating. It is really funny how humanity really is. They see one good group of people, and the moment someone dies or something worse happens. They freaking smack talk them. Gun-chan was not taking it very well. It literally caused her mentality to be degraded. Even her family was total garbage. Wow.
Nov 5, 2021 1:57 PM
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I'm getting kinda confused about the timeline of everything. Are there 3 worlds? There are 2 Yunas, no?
Nov 5, 2021 2:11 PM
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ok this episode was very good! Depressing and tragic, but it "feels good" from time to time because I got a little bored of the power of friendship in this anime. We approach another side of the function of hero, the one to be hated by all as soon as something goes wrong. Here, Chitose goes as far as hating her friend who is still loved by the public out of jealousy. Her story is very touching and I think she is my favorite character of the show (after Yuna?)
Nov 5, 2021 2:16 PM
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Better than last episode I guess? But still a mess... anyways, it seems they won't add Chikage family and school bullying backstory to the anime huh?
Fine, I will do it myself by quoting the LN texts directly.

Also, because this is a bunch of backstory they SKIP, this is not a spoiler anyway... so let's goo!!!

Vol 1 Chapter 4:
"Chikage covered her ears, feeling pain from the spot that was previously cut by her classmates." (yes, physical injury.)

"Why did it become this way?
When her parents were a loving couple.
Their families apparently protested, but they rented a small house and started living there.
Soon after Chikage was born, both parents rejoiced at the birth of their child.
A third member added to their small family, and their days of happiness continued."

"But, that's not how it went.
Chikage's father was a child turned adult, being both an irresponsible father and husband.
He prioritized his own freedom and refused to help out with housework.
One night, Chikage's mother collapsed from a high fever. Chikage being too young to know what to do called her father asking for help. {Give her some medicine and put her to sleep}, he said and hung up the phone. He finally returned at around 2 am, drunk.
Chikage spent all that time crying alone."

"They couldn't come to an understanding on who would take custody of Chikage. If it weren't for her, they would have long left the past behind and started a new life.
They both cursed her existence."

"Family in-fight happened regularly.
And one day, the mother's affair come to light.
Being in a small village, the news spread quickly and the couple's relations with the other residents became the worst they could be.
Chikage was not spared either, she was bullied and hated at school."

"Her classmates used to call her {Daughter of the bitch} and {Slut}. Most likely not even knowing the meaning of the words.
Even the teachers mocked her, saying a child born of those parents could never amount to anything.
Her belongings were stolen almost on a daily basis.
The girls would surround her, rip off her clothes and toss them in the incinerator.
At times they would cut her hair with scissors, hurting her ears in the process more often than not.
They would even push her down the stairs and mask it as playing."

I didn't quote all of it, but you can understand most of the rest right?
Nov 5, 2021 2:25 PM
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Yuvensius said:
Better than last episode I guess? But still a mess... anyways, it seems they won't add Chikage family and school bullying backstory to the anime huh?
Fine, I will do it myself by quoting the LN texts directly.

Also, because this is a bunch of backstory they SKIP, this is not a spoiler anyway... so let's goo!!!

Vol 1 Chapter 4:
"Chikage covered her ears, feeling pain from the spot that was previously cut by her classmates." (yes, physical injury.)

"Why did it become this way?
When her parents were a loving couple.
Their families apparently protested, but they rented a small house and started living there.
Soon after Chikage was born, both parents rejoiced at the birth of their child.
A third member added to their small family, and their days of happiness continued."

"But, that's not how it went.
Chikage's father was a child turned adult, being both an irresponsible father and husband.
He prioritized his own freedom and refused to help out with housework.
One night, Chikage's mother collapsed from a high fever. Chikage being too young to know what to do called her father asking for help. {Give her some medicine and put her to sleep}, he said and hung up the phone. He finally returned at around 2 am, drunk.
Chikage spent all that time crying alone."

"They couldn't come to an understanding on who would take custody of Chikage. If it weren't for her, they would have long left the past behind and started a new life.
They both cursed her existence."

"Family in-fight happened regularly.
And one day, the mother's affair come to light.
Being in a small village, the news spread quickly and the couple's relations with the other residents became the worst they could be.
Chikage was not spared either, she was bullied and hated at school."

"Her classmates used to call her {Daughter of the bitch} and {Slut}. Most likely not even knowing the meaning of the words.
Even the teachers mocked her, saying a child born of those parents could never amount to anything.
Her belongings were stolen almost on a daily basis.
The girls would surround her, rip off her clothes and toss them in the incinerator.
At times they would cut her hair with scissors, hurting her ears in the process more often than not.
They would even push her down the stairs and mask it as playing."

I didn't quote all of it, but you can understand most of the rest right?
Never read the source material, but this is way better and explains her hatred of the general public much better. The version were getting makes her seem more like a psychopath. Though these extra lines don't seem to fix her betrayal of Nogi. Both the betrayal and her obsession with Yuna just kinda seems to come out of nowhere.

This is honestly shaping up to be the most disappointing anime I've ever watched and is sitting comfortably at a 3 right now. Hoping it can be brought together by the end, but I doubt it considering YuYuYu's track record.
Nov 5, 2021 3:18 PM
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Rakshal said:
Yuvensius said:
Better than last episode I guess? But still a mess... anyways, it seems they won't add Chikage family and school bullying backstory to the anime huh?
Fine, I will do it myself by quoting the LN texts directly.

Also, because this is a bunch of backstory they SKIP, this is not a spoiler anyway... so let's goo!!!

Vol 1 Chapter 4:
"Chikage covered her ears, feeling pain from the spot that was previously cut by her classmates." (yes, physical injury.)

"Why did it become this way?
When her parents were a loving couple.
Their families apparently protested, but they rented a small house and started living there.
Soon after Chikage was born, both parents rejoiced at the birth of their child.
A third member added to their small family, and their days of happiness continued."

"But, that's not how it went.
Chikage's father was a child turned adult, being both an irresponsible father and husband.
He prioritized his own freedom and refused to help out with housework.
One night, Chikage's mother collapsed from a high fever. Chikage being too young to know what to do called her father asking for help. {Give her some medicine and put her to sleep}, he said and hung up the phone. He finally returned at around 2 am, drunk.
Chikage spent all that time crying alone."

"They couldn't come to an understanding on who would take custody of Chikage. If it weren't for her, they would have long left the past behind and started a new life.
They both cursed her existence."

"Family in-fight happened regularly.
And one day, the mother's affair come to light.
Being in a small village, the news spread quickly and the couple's relations with the other residents became the worst they could be.
Chikage was not spared either, she was bullied and hated at school."

"Her classmates used to call her {Daughter of the bitch} and {Slut}. Most likely not even knowing the meaning of the words.
Even the teachers mocked her, saying a child born of those parents could never amount to anything.
Her belongings were stolen almost on a daily basis.
The girls would surround her, rip off her clothes and toss them in the incinerator.
At times they would cut her hair with scissors, hurting her ears in the process more often than not.
They would even push her down the stairs and mask it as playing."

I didn't quote all of it, but you can understand most of the rest right?
Never read the source material, but this is way better and explains her hatred of the general public much better. The version were getting makes her seem more like a psychopath. Though these extra lines don't seem to fix her betrayal of Nogi. Both the betrayal and her obsession with Yuna just kinda seems to come out of nowhere.

This is honestly shaping up to be the most disappointing anime I've ever watched and is sitting comfortably at a 3 right now. Hoping it can be brought together by the end, but I doubt it considering YuYuYu's track record.


For me Dai Mankai no Shou is the first YuYuYu season to disappoint me pacing/adaption wise.
Nov 5, 2021 3:22 PM
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Humanity is disgusting and hypocritical. That’s pretty much a major theme in this episode. Not like it helps much, sadly.

I read the source material a short while back and found it very weak but at least it had some substantiality in terms of giving details. Here, with the writing already inherently as weak as it is, they tried too hard to sell the viewers on Chikage’s mental deterioration. It ends up to me as something I call “overly edgy” (I really feel bad having to retort this term, tbh) and ends up more frustrating and annoying than depressing as it originally intended.

When you consider similar mental breakdowns in other series like Subaru in ReZero and Homura from Madoka Magica, this immensely pales in comparison.

Even without any expectations from a series I’m not quite fond of, this is one of the most disappointing series this season, even far more so than Takt Op Destiny. Then again, I don’t blame anyone liking this moment if they really liked the YuYuYu franchise to begin with.
RyuseishunNov 5, 2021 4:04 PM
Nov 5, 2021 3:35 PM

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Yuvensius said:
Better than last episode I guess? But still a mess... anyways, it seems they won't add Chikage family and school bullying backstory to the anime huh?
Fine, I will do it myself by quoting the LN texts directly.

Also, because this is a bunch of backstory they SKIP, this is not a spoiler anyway... so let's goo!!!

Vol 1 Chapter 4:
"Chikage covered her ears, feeling pain from the spot that was previously cut by her classmates." (yes, physical injury.)

"Why did it become this way?
When her parents were a loving couple.
Their families apparently protested, but they rented a small house and started living there.
Soon after Chikage was born, both parents rejoiced at the birth of their child.
A third member added to their small family, and their days of happiness continued."

"But, that's not how it went.
Chikage's father was a child turned adult, being both an irresponsible father and husband.
He prioritized his own freedom and refused to help out with housework.
One night, Chikage's mother collapsed from a high fever. Chikage being too young to know what to do called her father asking for help. {Give her some medicine and put her to sleep}, he said and hung up the phone. He finally returned at around 2 am, drunk.
Chikage spent all that time crying alone."

"They couldn't come to an understanding on who would take custody of Chikage. If it weren't for her, they would have long left the past behind and started a new life.
They both cursed her existence."

"Family in-fight happened regularly.
And one day, the mother's affair come to light.
Being in a small village, the news spread quickly and the couple's relations with the other residents became the worst they could be.
Chikage was not spared either, she was bullied and hated at school."

"Her classmates used to call her {Daughter of the bitch} and {Slut}. Most likely not even knowing the meaning of the words.
Even the teachers mocked her, saying a child born of those parents could never amount to anything.
Her belongings were stolen almost on a daily basis.
The girls would surround her, rip off her clothes and toss them in the incinerator.
At times they would cut her hair with scissors, hurting her ears in the process more often than not.
They would even push her down the stairs and mask it as playing."

I didn't quote all of it, but you can understand most of the rest right?




after watching this episode and not feeling any emotion or even caring about the characters i came here looking for your comment after having read what you said in previous episodes, thanks for the summary, by the way it will be just another mass production anime only to fill space on my list, I'm disappointed and considering reading the novel after this mess, the problem is that the anime has already spoiled...
Nov 5, 2021 4:04 PM

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Rakshal said:
Never read the source material, but this is way better and explains her hatred of the general public much better. The version were getting makes her seem more like a psychopath. Though these extra lines don't seem to fix her betrayal of Nogi. Both the betrayal and her obsession with Yuna just kinda seems to come out of nowhere.

This is honestly shaping up to be the most disappointing anime I've ever watched and is sitting comfortably at a 3 right now. Hoping it can be brought together by the end, but I doubt it considering YuYuYu's track record.

It is not shown properly here, but Chikage use that 180 seconds super mode a lot off-screen. That 180 seconds super mode can make any person healthy person get mental illness. For someone that already have childhood bullying trauma, this side effect make it worse.
As for Yuuna, she is basically Chikage main mental support lol. Being away from her for a long time make the mental illness get worse. With Wakaba being there when she can finally visit her mental support after a long time, well you can guess the rest.
Nov 5, 2021 4:14 PM

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Good story, but boy they are doing this at a speed of light. I guess they really wanted both KuMeYu and NoWaYu done in 3 episodes each.
Nov 5, 2021 4:16 PM

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Being a hero is suffering and clearly not a dream job. I don't know what are requirement for becoming one, but candidates need better mental fortitude, because just like Chikage, they can turn into a ticking time bomb

Wavepush said:
I'm getting kinda confused about the timeline of everything. Are there 3 worlds? There are 2 Yunas, no?


Main girls are reading the diary from the past and Yuna from the past is Main Girl's ancestor or something like that. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Nov 5, 2021 4:38 PM

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Humanity is disgusting and hypocritical. That’s pretty much a major theme in this episode. Not like it helps much, sadly.

I read the source material a short while back and found it very weak but at least it had some substantiality in terms of giving details. Here, with the writing already inherently as weak as it is, they tried too hard to sell the viewers on Chikage’s mental deterioration. It ends up to me as something I call “overly edgy” (I really feel bad having to retort this term, tbh) and ends up more frustrating and annoying than depressing as it originally intended.

Even without any expectations from a series I’m not quite fond of, this is one of the most disappointing series this season, even far more so than Takt Op Destiny. Then again, I don’t blame anyone liking this moment if they really liked the YuYuYu franchise to begin with.

Huh? Fancy seeing you here man, thank you for the enjoyable 86 live reaction. I can't wait for tomorrow (or tonight?) 86 episode 17.

That aside, I won't put NoWaYu LN writing at weak category, maybe on decent zone.

As for Takt Op Destiny, can you please tell me how bad is it? I only watching 86, Muv-Luv, that isekai assassin, that space vampire, and this rushed adaptation so far. I rarely follow most hype train just because some big studio are behind it lol, I only start watching those kind of shows after the show itself ended. So if you can give me some summary (spoiler is ok), that would be great.
Nov 5, 2021 4:45 PM

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Yuvensius said:
Ryuseishun said:
Humanity is disgusting and hypocritical. That’s pretty much a major theme in this episode. Not like it helps much, sadly.

I read the source material a short while back and found it very weak but at least it had some substantiality in terms of giving details. Here, with the writing already inherently as weak as it is, they tried too hard to sell the viewers on Chikage’s mental deterioration. It ends up to me as something I call “overly edgy” (I really feel bad having to retort this term, tbh) and ends up more frustrating and annoying than depressing as it originally intended.

Even without any expectations from a series I’m not quite fond of, this is one of the most disappointing series this season, even far more so than Takt Op Destiny. Then again, I don’t blame anyone liking this moment if they really liked the YuYuYu franchise to begin with.

Huh? Fancy seeing you here man, thank you for the enjoyable 86 live reaction. I can't wait for tomorrow (or tonight?) 86 episode 17.

That aside, I won't put NoWaYu LN writing at weak category, maybe on decent zone.

As for Takt Op Destiny, can you please tell me how bad is it? I only watching 86, Muv-Luv, that isekai assassin, that space vampire, and this rushed adaptation so far. I rarely follow most hype train just because some big studio are behind it lol, I only start watching those kind of shows after the show itself ended. So if you can give me some summary (spoiler is ok), that would be great.


Oh wow, thanks. Did not expect someone here to recognize me from YouTube in such timely fashion lmao.

Yea I don’t think NoWaYu’s writing was inherently bad, but it’s standard level and I just personally don’t have much likings for the franchise in general, tbf.

Takt Op Destiny started out with quite a flair and some interesting ideas, but for now it doesn’t seem to know how to handle them enough to at least keep people hooked until the plot DOES get something going more. The most controversial part about it is the production health considering the state of Mappa. Seems like it was sacrificed after all as a collab side project with Madhouse for the sake of JJK 0 and AoT s4 Part 2.
Takt Op isn’t god awful at least but i guess extremely clumsy is the best way to describe it.
Nov 5, 2021 5:12 PM

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gnomeu said:

After watching this episode and not feeling any emotion or even caring about the characters i came here looking for your comment after having read what you said in previous episodes, thanks for the summary, by the way it will be just another mass production anime only to fill space on my list, I'm disappointed and considering reading the novel after this mess, the problem is that the anime has already spoiled...

If you compare it to most LN, this only have 2 volumes (pretty short) with ~10 chapters each volume (~20 pages per chapter including illustration). Also, considering they skipped 90% of chapter 1-14 and go straight for characters death, you can read the LN if what you want are those girls daily slice of life and bonding before their death. Not to mention, Wakaba personality in anime is different with Wakaba personality in LN because of 1 important incident and conclusion that they completely skip as if that never happened (which is why anime Wakaba is more annoying and obsessed with revenge lol).

You can also think of it as a war story or war documentary of a dead soldier daily life before his death lol. A lot of people know Erwin Rommel die before the war end, but what kind of legendary achievement did he do before his death? Interesting right?
Nov 5, 2021 5:26 PM

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Ryuseishun said:
Yuvensius said:

Huh? Fancy seeing you here man, thank you for the enjoyable 86 live reaction. I can't wait for tomorrow (or tonight?) 86 episode 17.

That aside, I won't put NoWaYu LN writing at weak category, maybe on decent zone.

As for Takt Op Destiny, can you please tell me how bad is it? I only watching 86, Muv-Luv, that isekai assassin, that space vampire, and this rushed adaptation so far. I rarely follow most hype train just because some big studio are behind it lol, I only start watching those kind of shows after the show itself ended. So if you can give me some summary (spoiler is ok), that would be great.


Oh wow, thanks. Did not expect someone here to recognize me from YouTube in such timely fashion lmao.

Yea I don’t think NoWaYu’s writing was inherently bad, but it’s standard level and I just personally don’t have much likings for the franchise in general, tbf.

Takt Op Destiny started out with quite a flair and some interesting ideas, but for now it doesn’t seem to know how to handle them enough to at least keep people hooked until the plot DOES get something going more. The most controversial part about it is the production health considering the state of Mappa. Seems like it was sacrificed after all as a collab side project with Madhouse for the sake of JJK 0 and AoT s4 Part 2.
Takt Op isn’t god awful at least but i guess extremely clumsy is the best way to describe it.

If you see anyone with the name of 'Yuvensius Lie' in your live chat of 86 part 1 and sometimes part 2, that's me lol. I can hardly watch you part 2 reaction live because of the different time zone + different episode airing time compared to part 1.

As for Takt Op, maybe I will avoid it for now to avoid another Darling in the Franxx famous alien plot twist. For JJK 0 I will surely watch it, even if I haven't read the manga or watch the anime. I always watch the prequel story first, the same applied to WaSuYu, and Fate/Kaleid: Oath Under Snow.
Nov 5, 2021 5:32 PM

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Piromysl said:
Being a hero is suffering and clearly not a dream job. I don't know what are requirement for becoming one, but candidates need better mental fortitude, because just like Chikage, they can turn into a ticking time bomb

Wavepush said:
I'm getting kinda confused about the timeline of everything. Are there 3 worlds? There are 2 Yunas, no?


Main girls are reading the diary from the past and Yuna from the past is Main Girl's ancestor or something like that. Correct me if I'm wrong.

In Indonesian FB fanclub for YuYuYu franchise, we joked that Shinju (tree god) are lolicon lol.

As for Yuuna T, she didn't have blood or family connections with Yuuna Y. Think of them as saber face of YuYuYu franchise.
Nov 5, 2021 5:37 PM

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Am I allowed to be sad for seeing how dirty they did NoWaYu? Where's all the build up? There is so much missing...

But as someone who read the LN, at least I appreciate the emotion they put into voice acting and animation.

This season still greatly disappoints me. Especially as a YuYuYu fan and a big fan of NoWaYu. Might just reread the LN and re-experience the truly tragic ride and not just this rushed version... Why are they even rushing it in the first place?

Still a better adaptation than *cough*Muv Luv Alternative*cough*. This season chose to just ruin some of my favourite stories.
Nov 5, 2021 6:20 PM

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Wanting to be accepted to fill the void your parents have left. Plus feeling like a pariah in your own small town. This truly s The Melancholy of Gun-chan.

It's a shame to see how these girls have to become pillars for their society. Heck being a pillar at all is terrible thing to begin with. I wonder why they didn't revoke her powers for a while until she was mentally stable. Is that even possible? They go through a lot crap so the least they can do is look after their mental health?

Another good idea would've been to probably take internet access from her. I mean they don't have that many people to take over the hero role back then, did they. Then again this is the Taisha we're talking about ¬_¬.

Wish this got the movie treatment like Washio's story. Probably should read the LNs.
Notice: I read most manga in Japanese now so I'm not sure where you can read in English. Sorry in advance.
Nov 5, 2021 6:41 PM

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Absolute garbage of an episode in regards to the pacing and what it adapts from the NoWaYu LN

Yes, let's just fast forward everything that happened prior to Chikage's depression + Yuuna's fate so the viewers will only see her tantrum and almost see nothing of her troubled past life both at home and school. Not to mention the fake (albeit short-lived) celebrity status she got when she first became a hero because it's definitely a good idea to skip that chapter

Let's just get NoWaYu over with and get back to the main group's story and how they proceeded to the events of the Hero chapter
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looks like Gun-chan favorite video game is Yandere Simulator. just kidding. lol
a crazy girl with powers is very very scary.

when Nogi told the people the difficulty in the situation. They understand and start cheering for her again.

looking forward to next week! :)
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Yuvensius said:
Piromysl said:
Being a hero is suffering and clearly not a dream job. I don't know what are requirement for becoming one, but candidates need better mental fortitude, because just like Chikage, they can turn into a ticking time bomb



Main girls are reading the diary from the past and Yuna from the past is Main Girl's ancestor or something like that. Correct me if I'm wrong.

In Indonesian FB fanclub for YuYuYu franchise, we joked that Shinju (tree god) are lolicon lol.

As for Yuuna T, she didn't have blood or family connections with Yuuna Y. Think of them as saber face of YuYuYu franchise.


Does that mean, that a boy could become a Hero and it wouldn't cause any major plot inconsistency other than possibly making yuri fandom upset?
I don't recall any disclosure that a girl MUST be a hero.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Honkai Impact is already doing that and it works.

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The school shooter vibes ๐Ÿคฃ
Nov 6, 2021 9:59 AM

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Wow they really layed it on thick this episode. Like damn that was almost comical everything Gun-chan did this week. Like girl get some therapy. Or at least get off social media if you can't handle dumb assholes.
Nov 6, 2021 6:33 PM
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Damn, Yuuki is going to need some time to recover physically from her latest injuries.

Serafos said:

Yuuki is lucky to be alive. Hopefully she will recover from those injuries ASAP.

That's not Yuuki Yuuna, it's Takashima Yuuna. They're not one and the same character.
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I'm having a great time just watching the show but part of me wishes this season wasn't so contentious just so we could talk about other things besides how accurate or not it is to it's source material. Having that said I'm fully sympathetic. We all have that show, movie, franchise, whatever that went off the rails and it feels like an opportunity has been lost forever. I'm excited to see where this show will go because I want to find out why they chose to make the creative choices they did. Clearly, whatever they sacrificed must be worth what they sacrificed it for.
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damnn .. dont be foolish by cover this anime !!

this back story is so much sadness and despair !!
Nov 7, 2021 9:47 AM
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Yuvensius said:
Better than last episode I guess? But still a mess... anyways, it seems they won't add Chikage family and school bullying backstory to the anime huh?


thank you for the context
Even if, as it is a part of a backstory, they could tell it at any moment

After, imho, if we remove the scene where she uses the scythe
her behavior is understandable even without those extra lines
It is not explain like in the LN ( which I did not read) but with the backstory (the tags on the walls for me it's bullying)
before the scythe scene I understand that she is hateful. (but maybe I am a psychopath myself)


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The OST is just impressive, immersive and powerfully emotional!
oh man! hard to deal with a mentally unstable yuusha gun-chan!
5/5.


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I'm having a great time just watching the show but part of me wishes this season wasn't so contentious just so we could talk about other things besides how accurate or not it is to it's source material. Having that said I'm fully sympathetic. We all have that show, movie, franchise, whatever that went off the rails and it feels like an opportunity has been lost forever. I'm excited to see where this show will go because I want to find out why they chose to make the creative choices they did. Clearly, whatever they sacrificed must be worth what they sacrificed it for.


I am also enjoying the show. I haven't read the LNs, but by doing my best to fill in the blanks I could still sympathize with Chikage; She's a highschool girl from a bad background coping with the deaths of her friends while simultaneously having to hear her friends being disrespected. Her parents definitely didn't seem like good role models, so she probably wasn't taught any healthy coping techniques.

It really is hard to squeeze a lot of content into such short timeframes, as you implied. I am also awaiting to see if there is a big payoff for skipping so much backstory.
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Yuvensius said:
Better than last episode I guess? But still a mess... anyways, it seems they won't add Chikage family and school bullying backstory to the anime huh?


thank you for the context
Even if, as it is a part of a backstory, they could tell it at any moment

After, imho, if we remove the scene where she uses the scythe
her behavior is understandable even without those extra lines
It is not explain like in the LN ( which I did not read) but with the backstory (the tags on the walls for me it's bullying)
before the scythe scene I understand that she is hateful. (but maybe I am a psychopath myself)

Some people who watch the series in the future might ask, what kind of bullying did Chikage got up to the point that she attack them physically and cause physical injury?
You need to know that there are 2 kind of bullying:
- Physical bullying.
- Mental (non-physical) bullying.

If people assume Chikage only receive mental bullying because of the 0 flashback to show the physical bullying, they will think that Chikage is the aggressor by physically attacking her old classmates. This potential misunderstanding can be avoided in the first place by adding simple 30 seconds or 1 minute flashback to show that physical bullying.
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Yuvensius said:


If people assume Chikage only receive mental bullying because of the 0 flashback to show the physical bullying, they will think that Chikage is the aggressor by physically attacking her old classmates. This potential misunderstanding can be avoided in the first place by adding simple 30 seconds or 1 minute flashback to show that physical bullying.

Sure, it would have been better
but even without that, her agression is not free, it is a response of the mental bullying
This type of scene (somebody insults someone) and the other person hits him/her in response happens in real life too.

But effectivly, the effort to show physical bullying was so low that they should have done it.
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Better than last episode I guess? But still a mess... anyways, it seems they won't add Chikage family and school bullying backstory to the anime huh?
Fine, I will do it myself by quoting the LN texts directly.

Also, because this is a bunch of backstory they SKIP, this is not a spoiler anyway... so let's goo!!!

Vol 1 Chapter 4:
"Chikage covered her ears, feeling pain from the spot that was previously cut by her classmates." (yes, physical injury.)


We can actually spot her cut when she attacks her classmates, which is one of the only nice things I've found about this episode.

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Yuvensius said:
Better than last episode I guess? But still a mess... anyways, it seems they won't add Chikage family and school bullying backstory to the anime huh?
Fine, I will do it myself by quoting the LN texts directly.

Also, because this is a bunch of backstory they SKIP, this is not a spoiler anyway... so let's goo!!!

Vol 1 Chapter 4:
"Chikage covered her ears, feeling pain from the spot that was previously cut by her classmates." (yes, physical injury.)


We can actually spot her cut when she attacks her classmates, which is one of the only nice things I've found about this episode.


Kinda wish they make it more noticeable though. Well, anyways...

"Pardon my french."
Hmm, French huh? Can I ask you something?
If I add a pun to "pardon my XXX" by change 'pardon' to 'verdun' like "Verdun my XXX", would that make French people angry?
I just want to make sure this pun is save to use considering this is a direct pun reference to battle of Verdun during World War 1.
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Seems like almost everyone in this thread read the source material, wowie...
as someone who has not, I'm loving this season so far. Although I wasn't that into the arc with the other group of girls, this one is great. Such raw emotion and I really feel for Chikage. Though the realistic portrayal of emotions is what has always made this series great imo. Really excited to see how this arc resolves itself.
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Kahirama said:
Am I allowed to be sad for seeing how dirty they did NoWaYu? Where's all the build up? There is so much missing...

But as someone who read the LN, at least I appreciate the emotion they put into voice acting and animation.

This season still greatly disappoints me. Especially as a YuYuYu fan and a big fan of NoWaYu. Might just reread the LN and re-experience the truly tragic ride and not just this rushed version... Why are they even rushing it in the first place?

Still a better adaptation than *cough*Muv Luv Alternative*cough*. This season chose to just ruin some of my favourite stories.


I'm pretty disappointed too. Gonna have to re-read the novels again (KuMeYu too) after this season is over...
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It's yandere time.

Wavepush said:
I'm getting kinda confused about the timeline of everything. Are there 3 worlds? There are 2 Yunas, no?

YuYuYu universe: "This isn't even my final Yuuna."
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"Pardon my french."
Hmm, French huh? Can I ask you something?
If I add a pun to "pardon my XXX" by change 'pardon' to 'verdun' like "Verdun my XXX", would that make French people angry?
I just want to make sure this pun is save to use considering this is a direct pun reference to battle of Verdun during World War 1.


Lol, I wasn't expecting that ! As far as I'm concerned, I find it pretty funny ! I'm sure most French people won't care. Some will be triggered, though.
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Chokko said:
Yuvensius said:


"Pardon my french."
Hmm, French huh? Can I ask you something?
If I add a pun to "pardon my XXX" by change 'pardon' to 'verdun' like "Verdun my XXX", would that make French people angry?
I just want to make sure this pun is save to use considering this is a direct pun reference to battle of Verdun during World War 1.


Lol, I wasn't expecting that ! As far as I'm concerned, I find it pretty funny ! I'm sure most French people won't care. Some will be triggered, though.

That's fine, as long as the triggered opinions are on the minority side, that should be ok.
Also, considering French army won that battle, maybe it's not a bad thing (more dead and wounded soldiers than German side though).
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yes Waka-sama, I now root for her, I'm a changed man, she's the best HERO, I love you!!!
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Oh yeah, i remember that lame attempt of attributing Chikage's loss of sanity to a side effect of using Hero transformation back from reading LN. She had more than enough reasons to go capital G Gamer mode without this half-assed explanation.
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Tfw no yandere gf.. this episode was very similar to Sayaka in Madoka snapping. Also reminded me of the green goblin and Spider-Man’s conversation from spiderman 1 about how quick people are to turn on you after you help them.

Honestly can’t blame her for going crazy. Shitty upbringing, alcoholic father, being bullied, classic school shooter vibes
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I gotta say, I'm liking the OG heroes' mankai form... it looks much better than the current heroes.

Unless Nogi somehow tops this shiromuku look she's got, Chikage has the best mankai form.
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Dat tornado.
Dem comments.
Dat face.
Dat flashback.
Dem signs.
Oh shit! Chikage slicing them up!
7/30.
Dat room destruction. Hey! Hero or not, you don't pay rent. Stop destroying the room.
Toki yo tomare!
Dat Vertex.
Dat betrayal.
Dat ending.

What an episode. New OP version. I knew Anzu had the biggest oppai of the group just by looking at her, but I did not expect seeing Hinata having the bigger oppai. Also, Hinata's design reminds me of Yuuki from SAO. Just that Hinata is on the thick side. Damn. the OP song is so good.
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gnomeu said:

After watching this episode and not feeling any emotion or even caring about the characters i came here looking for your comment after having read what you said in previous episodes, thanks for the summary, by the way it will be just another mass production anime only to fill space on my list, I'm disappointed and considering reading the novel after this mess, the problem is that the anime has already spoiled...

If you compare it to most LN, this only have 2 volumes (pretty short) with ~10 chapters each volume (~20 pages per chapter including illustration). Also, considering they skipped 90% of chapter 1-14 and go straight for characters death, you can read the LN if what you want are those girls daily slice of life and bonding before their death. Not to mention, Wakaba personality in anime is different with Wakaba personality in LN because of 1 important incident and conclusion that they completely skip as if that never happened (which is why anime Wakaba is more annoying and obsessed with revenge lol).

You can also think of it as a war story or war documentary of a dead soldier daily life before his death lol. A lot of people know Erwin Rommel die before the war end, but what kind of legendary achievement did he do before his death? Interesting right?
@Yuvensius Hold on, didn't NoWaYu have 20 volumes? I remember checking before how many volumes it has and saw 20 whooping volumes, being the longest in the entire franchise.
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Absolute garbage of an episode in regards to the pacing and what it adapts from the NoWaYu LN

Yes, let's just fast forward everything that happened prior to Chikage's depression + Yuuna's fate so the viewers will only see her tantrum and almost see nothing of her troubled past life both at home and school. Not to mention the fake (albeit short-lived) celebrity status she got when she first became a hero because it's definitely a good idea to skip that chapter

Let's just get NoWaYu over with and get back to the main group's story and how they proceeded to the events of the Hero chapter
@FragmantLemon The one to blame here is the Director, he fcked up so hard it's like he doesn't know how to adapt an anime. The season overall was very messy they should've just sticked with YuYuYu and KuMeYu stories and excluded Wakaba's chapter entirely and just make that a separate anime instead of including them in this mess.
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Piromysl said:
Being a hero is suffering and clearly not a dream job. I don't know what are requirement for becoming one, but candidates need better mental fortitude, because just like Chikage, they can turn into a ticking time bomb



Main girls are reading the diary from the past and Yuna from the past is Main Girl's ancestor or something like that. Correct me if I'm wrong.

In Indonesian FB fanclub for YuYuYu franchise, we joked that Shinju (tree god) are lolicon lol.

As for Yuuna T, she didn't have blood or family connections with Yuuna Y. Think of them as saber face of YuYuYu franchise.


Does that mean, that a boy could become a Hero and it wouldn't cause any major plot inconsistency other than possibly making yuri fandom upset?
I don't recall any disclosure that a girl MUST be a hero.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Honkai Impact is already doing that and it works.
@Piromysl I doubt that, even adults can't become a hero so i don't think boys can becomes heroes...One thing i remember mentioned is that only young girls are able to wield Shinju's power.
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I'm getting kinda confused about the timeline of everything. Are there 3 worlds? There are 2 Yunas, no?
@Wavepush Yuuna Takashima belongs to the 1st generation of heroes, the anime skipped the part after she died...Her body was absorbed by Shinju (the tree god) and became one with it, and every generation of heroes will have a Yuuna due to reincarnation or something. I forgot the exact details but the babies of each generation will be named Yuuna and will have the same characteristics as Takashima such as the pink hair.

Yuuna Yuuki is the final reincarnation and also has the highest aptitude of all the Yuuna that came along.
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