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Oct 26, 2019 11:17 PM
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I could very well be wrong about this but the similarities are just too uncanny.

Look like Disney has another future lawsuit on their hands.....
Oct 26, 2019 11:39 PM
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I could very well be wrong about this but the similarities are just too uncanny.

Look like Disney has another future lawsuit on their hands.....

Kind of yes. I recall something like BAKI saying herself that Beastars wouldn't have existed without Zootopia.

You don't have to be a dick about it.
Oct 26, 2019 11:45 PM
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Need_for_Steed said:
-Lamp- said:
I could very well be wrong about this but the similarities are just too uncanny.

Look like Disney has another future lawsuit on their hands.....

Kind of yes. I recall something like BAKI saying herself that Beastars wouldn't have existed without Zootopia.

You don't have to be a dick about it.


I'm not. I just thought nobody noticed it until now. I thought it was kind of obvious by now given how popular Zootopia was. I dont actually want a lawsuit I just think its bound to happen at some point.
Oct 26, 2019 11:47 PM
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-Lamp- said:
Need_for_Steed said:

Kind of yes. I recall something like BAKI saying herself that Beastars wouldn't have existed without Zootopia.

You don't have to be a dick about it.


I'm not. I just thought nobody noticed it until now. I thought it was kind of obvious by now given how popular Zootopia was. I dont actually want a lawsuit I just think its bound to happen at some point.


im sure it is plenty obvious to see the similarity in the concept of this "division" between herbivores and carnivores but the application, setting, and content is different.

both have meaningful messages, but from the first 3 episodes of beastars i'll tell you right now that no one is going "wow what a ripoff, police bunny from zootopia did that exact same thing in minute 28:32"

so other than the whole animal thing, and the distinction between herbivores and carnivores, i personally disagree with your statement as i believe that is where the similarities stop.
Oct 26, 2019 11:50 PM
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aisakafuyumi said:
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I'm not. I just thought nobody noticed it until now. I thought it was kind of obvious by now given how popular Zootopia was. I dont actually want a lawsuit I just think its bound to happen at some point.


im sure it is plenty obvious to see the similarity in the concept of this "division" between herbivores and carnivores but the application, setting, and content is different.

both have meaningful messages, but from the first 3 episodes of beastars i'll tell you right now that no one is going "wow what a ripoff, police bunny from zootopia did that exact same thing in minute 28:32"

so other than the whole animal thing, and the distinction between herbivores and carnivores, i personally disagree with your statement as i believe that is where the similarities stop.


I suppose the term ripoff is a bit much since it takes place in a school setting. huh.
Oct 27, 2019 12:39 AM
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Between the stop motion opening and animal instincts being a key component of the story it seems like there's more inspiration coming from Fantastic Mr. Fox than Zootopia.
Oct 27, 2019 12:44 AM
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lmao this anime is pretty dark so no.
Oct 27, 2019 3:43 AM
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Having anthro animals as your main thing in a series/movie ain't that original.
Disney got nothing on this and people should stop thinking that they own everything.
What are they?China?LOL
Oct 27, 2019 3:48 AM
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Yes since Zootopia came first, well even hero academia is a riff off of MCU AND DCU
Oct 27, 2019 4:44 AM

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WraithFury said:
well even hero academia is a riff off of MCU AND DCU

lol, at least say DC and marvel comics not the films, since hero academia has nothing from the films other than the recent(can you call 10 years recent?) craze for superheroes.

IMO beastars handles it's setting way better than zootopia, so like someone else said this is more of a clone of fantastic mr fox and heck even zootopia is a mr fox ripoff since both the book and film came out way before zootopia was even thought of.
Oct 27, 2019 7:10 AM
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So i'm someone who reads the manga so i know more about Beastars then whats shown so far in the first 3 episodes.

Inspired by Zootopia? Maybe.
They obviously share a similar aspect of carnivores and herbivores living together but thats about it.

Beastars has more character depth then cute bunny wants to be a cop and fox guy is misunderstood, also doing a much better job at showing the intricacies of a carnivore/herbivore society.

Zootopia feels more of a romanticization of a herbivore/carnivore society and Beastars approaches it in a more "realistic" way.

All in all a ripoff would mean that its just a copy paste of Zootopia wich is not the case.

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Oct 27, 2019 11:49 AM

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I just thought nobody noticed it until now.

Kind of surreal to read this since the first reaction of literally everyone who didn't read the source material has been 'lmao Japanese Zootopia!!1!11' like it's the funniest and most creative comment you can possibly make about it
Oct 27, 2019 12:06 PM

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That's like calling a lemon a rip off of an orange just because they are both citrus.
Oct 27, 2019 12:08 PM

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implying disney hasn't ripped off other's ideas lmao
Oct 27, 2019 12:21 PM

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implying disney hasn't ripped off other's ideas lmao


Exactly Kimba...
I mean Simba...
Oct 28, 2019 6:59 AM
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It's likely got some inspiration from Zootopia but I wouldn't say they are at all a 1:1 rip off of each other.

Beastars is closer to being more PG-13 over Zootopia which is a PG.

There are similarities so far in how the characters are trying to prove they go against their own instincts or perceived prejudices.

Zootopia is playing it up way more from a race angle where are Beastars is looking more into that inner animistic instinct and how it has influenced the characters as a more introspective look.

Both are solid, I want to see where Beastars ends up but it might end up in the same caliber I put Zootopia which is one of Disney's best movies in the past decade.

Not a rip off, just inspired.
Oct 28, 2019 9:36 AM
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I'm not. I just thought nobody noticed it until now.


Man, you're really living under a rock if you think no one thought it looked like Zootopia.
Oct 28, 2019 11:46 AM

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How oblivious do you have to be to think no one else noticed this? It's so ironic. Just looking on the forum for the first episode, Zootopia is mentioned over a dozen times. And besides having anthropomorphic animals & the obvious carnivores & herbivore sub-theme, there's literally no other significant similarities. Least of all enough for a lawsuit that Disney could feasibly win.
Oct 29, 2019 4:43 AM
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So i'm someone who reads the manga so i know more about Beastars then whats shown so far in the first 3 episodes.

Inspired by Zootopia? Maybe.
They obviously share a similar aspect of carnivores and herbivores living together but thats about it.

Beastars has more character depth then cute bunny wants to be a cop and fox guy is misunderstood, also doing a much better job at showing the intricacies of a carnivore/herbivore society.

Zootopia feels more of a romanticization of a herbivore/carnivore society and Beastars approaches it in a more "realistic" way.

All in all a ripoff would mean that its just a copy paste of Zootopia wich is not the case.



Same thing happened with Land of lustorus
And Steven universe .

Its clear LOTL is completely different to SU . Just becouse it has gems init doesn't make it a rip-off
Oct 29, 2019 12:14 PM

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Not a rip-off, but heavily inspired, yes. Just the setting, not the themes though.
You all need to watch Nami.

Oct 29, 2019 12:29 PM

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Inspired ?

Definitely, but since Paru managed to explore other thematics and characterization from a realistic lense that are completely different from it's "counterpart".

Let's say at this point, this kind of thought is more of an introductory catch to get into the show than anything else.

Anyway, if I remember right wasn't Beast Complex (the pilot to Beastars) released before Zootopia did ?
It's more likely that both projects were developed in almost total indifference of each other but ended up with some similarities anyway.
Oct 29, 2019 1:53 PM
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There is virtually nothing in the manga nor in this adaptaption that even remotely resembles Zootopia. Even then it wouldn't matter. Copyright does not protect "ideas" or "themes" or "Genres", only tangible representations, and even then, very limitedly.
But I'll bite deeper and argue as if it was a valid comparision.
Zootopia is a buddy comedy crime noir about race/crime/policing, almost a direct lift (in terms of themes and "ideas") from BlackSad(anthro crime noir centered on race using animals as psuedo-metaphors) and chinatown(the plot of a missing person's case turning into a exposure of evil machinations of society, albiet with a happy end).
It has infuences of Animal myths and gleefully regurgitates animal stereotypes that are not even remotely accurate. It overdesigned the world(in a very disney fashion) and ultimately loses it's racial metaphor under the weight of all the shit they cut from the 9 drafts of the script.
It's a good movie, for disney.

Beastars is a coming of age/murdermystery/social drama/Romance that uses a literal representation of species as the conflict. It is closer to "My love Story" mixed with tokyo ghoul, than a lazy crime drama with a token bunny cop and a racy fox conman.
It is considerably more violent and sexual than Zootopia, and is a character focused drama with the overarcing drama concerning Legosi solving a murder then getting involved with the stigma of being a "carnivore offender". It shares almost nothing with zootopia in either it's characters, worldbuilding, and design. The animals are more truely Anthro, in that they are like perfect man-animal hybrids, rather than merely upright walking animals(zootopia).

TLDR; No. Nothing about this Story about a wolf/komodo-dragon hybrid ultimately wanting to sex the rabbit and get married to her, has anything remotely to do with Zootopia.
Unless the fact it uses anthropomorphic animals, in which case disney would have to suffer lawsuits from Furries who made entire graphic novels about worlds with "anthros" decades before disney.
You'd be better off asking if Zootopia is not a rippoff of BlackSad, or Fritz the Cat, than beastars.
Just my Opinion.
I Just wish people had better discernment of Stories than "Is X ripping off Disney?"
Considering how much Disney blantantly steals from others it should give people pause before asking these kind of questions.
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Oct 29, 2019 1:59 PM
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It's likely got some inspiration from Zootopia but I wouldn't say they are at all a 1:1 rip off of each other.

Beastars is closer to being more PG-13 over Zootopia which is a PG.

There are similarities so far in how the characters are trying to prove they go against their own instincts or perceived prejudices.

Zootopia is playing it up way more from a race angle where are Beastars is looking more into that inner animistic instinct and how it has influenced the characters as a more introspective look.

Both are solid, I want to see where Beastars ends up but it might end up in the same caliber I put Zootopia which is one of Disney's best movies in the past decade.

Not a rip off, just inspired.


I would consider Beastars to be more TV-MA than PG-13. They deal with ripping a dudes fingers off and eating it in front of him, and "I must see your Penis" "Show me your Penis" later on.
I am not exaggerating.
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crankyfoxinabox said:
Red_Ryu12345 said:
It's likely got some inspiration from Zootopia but I wouldn't say they are at all a 1:1 rip off of each other.

Beastars is closer to being more PG-13 over Zootopia which is a PG.

There are similarities so far in how the characters are trying to prove they go against their own instincts or perceived prejudices.

Zootopia is playing it up way more from a race angle where are Beastars is looking more into that inner animistic instinct and how it has influenced the characters as a more introspective look.

Both are solid, I want to see where Beastars ends up but it might end up in the same caliber I put Zootopia which is one of Disney's best movies in the past decade.

Not a rip off, just inspired.


I would consider Beastars to be more TV-MA than PG-13. They deal with ripping a dudes fingers off and eating it in front of him, and "I must see your Penis" "Show me your Penis" later on.
I am not exaggerating.


Welp never mind then lol
Oct 30, 2019 11:38 AM

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If Disney sues this anime, then Japan should sue Disney for shamelessly ripping off Kimba the White Lion with their "first original" animated feature film The Lion King.
Oct 30, 2019 2:08 PM
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There's similar aspects to Zootopia, particularly the division part between the carnivores and herbivores and slight bit of discrimination.

However both of these don't have much in common aside from some basis of the characters being anthros and certain similar aspects between the two. It seems like Beastars is trying to be it's own thing despite the similarities.
Oct 31, 2019 8:10 AM
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Red_Ryu12345 said:
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I would consider Beastars to be more TV-MA than PG-13. They deal with ripping a dudes fingers off and eating it in front of him, and "I must see your Penis" "Show me your Penis" later on.
I am not exaggerating.


Welp never mind then lol


It's still good though. My comparison to My Love Story! mixed with Tokyo Ghoul is pretty accurate in terms of the themes/feels the manga, and (thusfar) the anime adaptation has had.
The Anime is excellent. Some of the best animation, staging, and directing I've seen. The CGI is excellent and they avoided that typical japanese CGI animation, with a lot more fluidity and movement.
There is a scene where a bird dude is telling Legosi to go get flowers and they bobbed and tilted the birds head to his cadence of speaking. It was alien but familiar, with the body language and cadence of japanese conversations but animalized because the bird's anatomy was so different.
Anime animation nerds should take notes from orange on how to do "3d Anime".
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crankyfoxinabox said:
There is a scene where a bird dude is telling Legosi to go get flowers and they bobbed and tilted the birds head to his cadence of speaking. It was alien but familiar, with the body language and cadence of japanese conversations but animalized because the bird's anatomy was so different.

Yeah, the body language is so nice in this show. I don't like 3D stuff in general but I appreciate every little thing Orange is doing for the BEASTARS anime. It's very well directed (the only thing I hate is those immersion-breaking, cheesy-ass sequences every time Legosi almost goes feral) and the seiyuu cast is great. I'm actually really enjoying it even though it still breaks my heart that I'll never see Itagaki's manga get the Doukyuusei-like treatment it always deserved.
I love your comments in this thread btw
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I'm not. I just thought nobody noticed it until now.


Man, you're really living under a rock if you think no one thought it looked like Zootopia.


My thoughts exactly. Does OP really think no one made this comparison like over a hundred times by now?
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Going by that logic Aesop should sue Disney.
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raccoon-child said:
crankyfoxinabox said:
There is a scene where a bird dude is telling Legosi to go get flowers and they bobbed and tilted the birds head to his cadence of speaking. It was alien but familiar, with the body language and cadence of japanese conversations but animalized because the bird's anatomy was so different.

Yeah, the body language is so nice in this show. I don't like 3D stuff in general but I appreciate every little thing Orange is doing for the BEASTARS anime. It's very well directed (the only thing I hate is those immersion-breaking, cheesy-ass sequences every time Legosi almost goes feral) and the seiyuu cast is great. I'm actually really enjoying it even though it still breaks my heart that I'll never see Itagaki's manga get the Doukyuusei-like treatment it always deserved.
I love your comments in this thread btw


Yeah that "RAGE FILLS MY BLOOD" silliness is probably the wrong visual metaphor for them to use. It's not that it's "innaccurate" it's that it feels overdone and cliche. It's a small pet peeve to me, though. I will say that as someone who's gone through the manga several times now, It is extremely faithful. It almost is a 1:1 but the staging and some of the clumsy dialog from the manga was cleaned up to be more impactful.
I also appreciated that they took advantage of the capabilities CGI can have and made it so Fluid. Most of the time I think people hate CGI replacement's because it looks lazy when it is used for "Static Scenes" (I.e Scenes that would have played better with a few handdrawn frames) Which I think they do for the more "Exaggerated" reaction shots.
It's all about a balance. Most people really don't understand just how powerful CGI can be if used correctly, and how much time and money it saves.
Thanks for the compliment BTW!
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If Disney sues this anime, then Japan should sue Disney for shamelessly ripping off Kimba the White Lion with their "first original" animated feature film The Lion King.

Why do people keep thinking The lion King is a rip-off of Simba? it's as stupid as saying this is a rip-off of Zootopia. All of the complains stop making sense when you notice that the story of Simba is it's own thing while The Lion King is based on Hamlet without all the metal at the end. Oh, and Simba never knew his father that was just his skin and the main villain are people while there's no one on The Lion King.
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No Beastars is like a more darker and mature version of Zootopia.
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lmao this anime is pretty dark so no.
>implying Zootopia isn't dark
It isn't. Kids can watch that and not get scarred.

If a kid watches Beastars.. What the fuck lol. There's literally an almost-sex scene in the first few episodes.
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as far as im concerned beastars and zootopia where in production at around the same time, and they both also first aired in similar times (the beastars manga has been ongoing since 2016). its just talented furries having similar ideas. its not uncommon for two different pieces of media to explore the same concept in different ways.

and i see comments pointing the similarities between the two literally everywhere, so its not like no one had noticed them lmao

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Why do people constantly conflate inspiration to be “ripping off?”
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Para Itagaki, Creator of Beastars, said she was inspired by Disney and it helped her create the series! (Though Zootopia and Beastars might have been released too close to each other for Zootopia to be a direct influence).
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Yes and it’s nowhere near as good. Most of the things are hamfisted with none of the nuances Zootopia has.
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The Zootopia hentai to be more precise.
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Yes you are very wrong about it
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Kinda an old thread but I have one the to say, Zootopia 2: electric boogaloo
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LampxTenor said:
I could very well be wrong about this but the similarities are just too uncanny.

Look like Disney has another future lawsuit on their hands.....


By that logic, MHA is a ripoff of Sky High. What you on mate?
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It is definitely a rip-off Zootopia, the plot not only gives it away but the characters resemble Zootopia characters in many ways.
Mar 26, 2021 2:34 PM

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No. But like c'mon just because it's about animals acting like humans and stuff doesn't mean it's Zootopia ripoff. The stories are completely different.

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