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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Reinhard already laid out his plans to Kircheis before Annerose told Kircheis to keep him in check. But Kircheis will likely be completely loyal even with this bold plan in mind. It wasn't sunshine and roses with the previous Dynasty as it was shown here with the kids adapting the mindset that commoners shouldn't even be here and how normal people are used as horses (oppression). |
| We got to see Reinhard and Kircheis childhood and a background of Reinhard's objective. He just want to rule the universe... he should be a little more ambitious. Oberstein made his first appearance. Very good adaptation of his character in my opinion. Next episode we are back to Yang. |
| Great episode. Once again, Congratulations to Reinhard and Kircheis for their promotions. I really enjoyed the flashback, they did a really good job at showcasing how both Reinhard and Kircheis became friends and grew up, eventually reaching the place they are today. It was tough watching Reinhard cry over his sister being taken away. :( I loved the scene where Kircheis comment on how no one at even the highest positions in the empire can taint Reinhard and Annerose. Speaking of which, Annerose is gorgeous. The mentality among the Imperial nobles is deplorable. I'm pretty invested in both Reinhard and Kircheis now, though I wonder if what Reinhard wants revolution to make the empire better or if he just wants to usurp power and become a ruler himself. Based off the what I saw this episode, it looks to be the latter. |
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| Suwabe sounded so good, in his first few lines I almost thought it was Shiozawa. The slight differences are working well, and the adaptation is doing a great job of making the nobles seem awful, but needs to do a bit more convincing that Reinhard doesn't just want to rule but wants to establish change. Looking forward to the next episode, the Truniht conference is a really great scene. |
| Other than that shitty looking design for Oberstein, this was an excellent episode. I loved the backstory in the original and except a few details, they covered the general outline of it really well. This reboot has so far been surprisingly really good (by not rushing itself or completely changing itself for the episodes length). Excited for more Yang next week. |
| They are not rushing it as much as I feared and are preserving the introductory information dumps. And they introduced some of the background we saw in some of the Gaiden. Not bad. Not bad at all. I'm not sold on some of the character designs though. Oberstein...heck even Ovlesser looks mildly handsome. The man is supposed to a monster in deed and appearance. At least Annerose looks as bishoujo as she's supposed to. |
FarabeufApr 17, 2018 8:08 AM
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| We got a bit of the backstory during Galactic Federation era and the separation of the FPA from the Galactic Empire that Lohengramm forcibly established. Now I want to see the documentary episodes in this adaptation so bad lol Oberstain's debut was pretty well done. Suwabe fits perfectly with him. We got the backstory about how Siegfried and Rienhard met each other during their childhood plus the reason they joined the military along with the latter's ambition to conquer the universe. Annerose looks absolutely gorgeous with this artstyle. Next week back to the awesome unbeatable magician! |
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| oh so does the intro part at the start maybe disprove my fear that all interesting history of the original and prequels would be completely ignored and might not be the case? though granted it was relatively short historical info dumb if my memory serves right all that history they mentioned now in episode 3 was more spread out and longer taking place in several episodes to set up the events of the Empire and Free Planets Alliance formation |
DeknijffApr 17, 2018 8:11 AM
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| Ah, yes... Finally... The single most important character has been revealed to us... Ansbach the Naughty! Jokes aside, I've read that the "removable eyeballs" trick was an OVA invention, and that novel Oberstein needs professional help with their maintenance. That makes more sense anyway, so I won't miss the casual eye horror too much. Kircheis seems a lot more comfortable while interacting with Annerose compared to the OVA. It's to the point where I can actually buy that he's into her. Farabeuf said: heck even Ovlesser looks mildly handsome. ARE YOU IMPLYING HE WASN'T HANDSOME BEFORE... What was it you didn't like about the old him? Was it the hair? The beard? The voice? His atrocious personality appears to be intact, so it can't be that. I'm only half-joking here; he obviously looks different, but I genuinely can't see where the "upgrade" is. |
| "I stocked this for our last meal. So let's enjoy white rice tonight. But not all of it. We still have tomorrow and the day after that." ~Houjou San "Anywhere can be paradise, as long as you have the will to live. After all, you are alive, so you will always have the chance to be happy." ~Ikari Yui "Life is suffering and pain. The world is cursed, its people are cursed, and yet we still wish to live." ~Osa |
| I have not watched the episode yet. Watched episodes 1+2 and I ordered the Vol.1 of the English translated novels. Just started to read. So from the comments above I guess this episode they showed the past of Reinhard and Kircheis. This was in the novel already in chapter 1. Surprisingly also Yangs background was explained there - which in the old OVA afaik only appears in the Gaidens. Seems a good idea to first have shown the battle without doing flashbacks. (People new to LotGH migh get bored if there was less action at the start already.) Now I hope they also show Yangs background/past later. |
Anutos said: Ah, yes... Finally... The single most important character has been revealed to us... Ansbach the Naughty! Jokes aside, I've read that the "removable eyeballs" trick was an OVA invention, and that novel Oberstein needs professional help with their maintenance. That makes more sense anyway, so I won't miss the casual eye horror too much. Kircheis seems a lot more comfortable while interacting with Annerose compared to the OVA. It's to the point where I can actually buy that he's into her. Farabeuf said: heck even Ovlesser looks mildly handsome. ARE YOU IMPLYING HE WASN'T HANDSOME BEFORE... What was it you didn't like about the old him? Was it the hair? The beard? The voice? His atrocious personality appears to be intact, so it can't be that. I'm only half-joking here; he obviously looks different, but I genuinely can't see where the "upgrade" is. The halfassed ponytail clinched it for me. Definitely an upgrade over the old Tom Selleck 80's fro' he sported in the OVA. Regarding your comment on Kircheis I get the feeling that in this adaptation they're going to |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Pretty good episode giving some backstory for Reinhard and Kircheis childhood and Reinhard's goal. They're very good friends. It's a shame what happened to his sister, but she seems to be doing okay. He was really upset about that. Annerose is gorgeous. Oberstein has some interesting eyes. The previous dynasty was not pretty. |
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Farabeuf said: Anutos said: Kircheis seems a lot more comfortable while interacting with Annerose compared to the OVA. It's to the point where I can actually buy that he's into her. ARE YOU IMPLYING HE WASN'T HANDSOME BEFORE... What was it you didn't like about the old him? Was it the hair? The beard? The voice? His atrocious personality appears to be intact, so it can't be that. I'm only half-joking here; he obviously looks different, but I genuinely can't see where the "upgrade" is. The halfassed ponytail clinched it for me. Definitely an upgrade over the old Tom Selleck 80's fro' he sported in the OVA. Huh, okay. Maybe my aesthetics sense is just weirder than expected. Farabeuf said: Regarding your comment on Kircheis I get the feeling that in this adaptation they're going to Sure seems that way so far. If that's the case, |
| "I stocked this for our last meal. So let's enjoy white rice tonight. But not all of it. We still have tomorrow and the day after that." ~Houjou San "Anywhere can be paradise, as long as you have the will to live. After all, you are alive, so you will always have the chance to be happy." ~Ikari Yui "Life is suffering and pain. The world is cursed, its people are cursed, and yet we still wish to live." ~Osa |
| im so conflicted, the fact that the reboot is staying loyal is encouraging, but with such a short run time it's only a matter of time before they start making huge cuts |
Thank god they didn't forget the most important scene in Reinhard and Kircheis' backstory AdrianRubinsky said: Oberstein made his first appearance. Very good adaptation of his character in my opinion. Agreed, Oberstein was just as Oberstein as he has ever been right here. A great introduction. Also I actually really like his new design. |
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| Yes, yes, this episode was finally good. (Is still feel that there was quite a lot of skipping but unlike the battle of astate, I don't remember Reinhard backstory perfectly and at the very least the main points were there.) What I am worried about is next episode which is called "undefeatable Magician"... I am like... WHAT!? Already! Not to mention the magician title came only after Yang did what he did. Now however not only it feels like entire Jessica situation is going to be skipped, but also scenes with Truniht!!! NO! That can't be! |
leke900 said: backstory for what? Reinhard and things changed but still have the same idea(seeing the poor rather than saving a girl getting raped, or showing the nobelsgoing to war but trying to not actually fight,)They are skipping too much backstory this anime already gone to shitters as far as i am concerned. While the history backstory, we dont know if they are just giving the main idea right now(for the dynasty set up) then do a more in depth history lesson later(if things are successful) because they had some elements like the frozen ship that they could have just made it a normal ship...but they didn't(so there is some history with that IF they choose to do a more in depth thing later, but we wont know tillafter the movies air first) |
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Sadakiyo said: Suwabe sounded so good, in his first few lines I almost thought it was Shiozawa. The very first line of his was similar to Shiozawa yea. SenpaiJay98 said: While the history backstory, we dont know if they are just giving the main idea right now(for the dynasty set up) then do a more in depth history lesson later(if things are successful) because they had some elements like the frozen ship that they could have just made it a normal ship...but they didn't(so there is some history with that IF they choose to do a more in depth thing later, but we wont know tillafter the movies air first) That's what I assume. They just gave a quick summary of it now. If the adaptation is succesful (with the movies) and they continue making more later, then the full history lesson can happen. It's supposed to happen later in the story anyway, assuming the OVA follows the novel on that point. |
| Really good flashback episode. The characters are starting to grow on me. |
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AzuNico said: im so conflicted, the fact that the reboot is staying loyal is encouraging, but with such a short run time it's only a matter of time before they start making huge cuts Now to be fair I am pretty new to LOGTH but the first season is only supposed to cover the first book right and the 3 movies 2 hours each to cover the 2nd book. The wiki says the first 26 episodes covered 2 of the books around in the original around 576 minutes (if we assume each episode has around 22 minutes of content). The new one is getting 624 minutes total for two books so where is the assumption they have to rush it I mean they have the running time to try and adapt everything. |
| What kind of father would sell his own daughter like that, the bastard, but this is what made Reinhard what he is today. |
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| Well damn, I usually dislike, even hate flashback episodes, since they tend to be boring, but this was a pretty damn interesting one. There's one thing I'm still slightly confused about though... why was Kircheis' room fked? I can think of 2-3 things that possibly could've happened, but none of them make all that much sense O.o Also, whoever's in charge of the OST in this version better gets a damn raise. Just that bit at the end where Reinhard announces his intentions... god, that theme set in absolutely perfectly =w= |
dunkan85Apr 17, 2018 4:31 PM
Ulquiorra said: Its not really that he sold his daughter What kind of father would sell his own daughter like that, the bastard, but this is what made Reinhard what he is today. its more so a code word for my daughter was kidnapped but I managed to get money from it despite it being out of my control to make it seem more ok when the Supreme Leader such as the Kaiser wants something. He gets what he wants |
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I saw people complaining about the new drawing but this was the old Annerose: Is definitely different. And her husband a little more handsome.  |
shiro_kaiApr 17, 2018 12:51 PM
Rienhart and Siefried, looks gay to me. So Rienhart is only 20 so does that mean that Wen is older maybe 30? |
| So far it is anything but impressive. It sure doesn't look like the "masterpiece" y'all say it is. |
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| Good episode, but... Having finished Violet Evergarden recently, this episode looked unbelievably bland to me (in terms of colour palette, storyboarding, lighting, character designs, etc.). LOGH has such a strong narrative, just imagine if it also had a strong visual director (and a big ass budget) behind it. Ok, asking for the entirety of LOGH to be adapted with KyoAni production values does not sound particularly feasible, but one can always dream... |
LapisKintsugiApr 17, 2018 1:24 PM
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| I didn't like this art style already but good god does Oberstein's new character design look terrible. |
| I'm absolutely loving everything about this. I love the new designs, and I'm loving how faithful the adaptation is being to the novel. |
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| Oh boy, I gotta appreciate how faithful and well presented they are going with this show thus far. Next episode should get us some more Wenli goodness, these weeks can't pass by any slower. I hope most of the older fans are watching this and have an open mind for the dubious character design choices and the lack of the gorgeous classical music. The design don't particularly strike me as any good either, but we are getting some nice content for an anime reboot here, besides that. bunny1ov3r said: So far it is anything but impressive. It sure doesn't look like the "masterpiece" y'all say it is. Well, try watching the whole OVA series, and then you will know why. The first 26 or so episodes are more of world building and character deepening, and that's more or less what this season and the next (the movies) will cover. The thing as a whole is a masterpiece, but it takes quite a while to give you that impression for good, don't expect to watch 3 episodes and say "OMG masterpiece" (there isn't really a show that would ever be like that tbh), as this one is a slow burner, even as an action packed adaptation like this one we are getting now. |
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straggy said: I didn't like this art style already but good god does Oberstein's new character design look terrible. His voice doesn't even fit either. |
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Danpmss said: Oh boy, I gotta appreciate how faithful and well presented they are going with this show thus far. Next episode should get us some more Wenli goodness, these weeks can't pass by any slower. I hope most of the older fans are watching this and have an open mind for the dubious character design choices and the lack of the gorgeous classical music. The design don't particularly strike me as any good either, but we are getting some nice content for an anime reboot here, besides that. bunny1ov3r said: So far it is anything but impressive. It sure doesn't look like the "masterpiece" y'all say it is. Well, try watching the whole OVA series, and then you will know why. The first 26 or so episodes are more of world building and character deepening, and that's more or less what this season and the next (the movies) will cover. The thing as a whole is a masterpiece, but it takes quite a while to give you that impression for good, don't expect to watch 3 episodes and say "OMG masterpiece" (there isn't really a show that would ever be like that tbh), as this one is a slow burner, even as an action packed adaptation like this one we are getting now. IDK honestly both the original and the new one got to me to be like already instant 10/10 and the new one to AOTS lol. Still its not going to be everyones cup of tea. I love and wish more series existed like this being a history buff plus a love of massive space opera's but that isn't for everyone. |
BilboBaggins365Apr 17, 2018 5:17 PM
| Kircheis best bro, I really like his duo with Reinhard, nice episode. |
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| Good episode all around. My only problem was Oberstein's voice. Suwabe Junichi almost sounded like he was mimicking Shiozawa Kaneto (The voice of Oberstein in the OVA). Suwabe has a cool voice, however he tried to be monotone but it didn't work for me. It generally seemed like a bad imitation of Shizawa Kento's voice. I think Furuya Toru (Narrator of Touhai Densetsu Akagi) would have been a better choice of casting for Oberstein, however it might feel odd with the new character design. It's too early to judge so we will see how it goes from here on out. However generally speaking the show is way much better than I expected, even the character design seem good. |
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| The art makes this hard to watch. |
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dunkan85 said: Well damn, I usually dislike, even hate flashback episodes, since they tend to be boring, but this was a pretty damn interesting one. There's one thing I'm still slightly confused though... why was Kircheis' room fked? I can think of 2-3 things that possibly could've happened, but none of them make all that much sense O.o Also, whoever's in charge of the OST in this version better gets a damn raise. Just that bit at the end where Reinhard announces his intentions... god, that theme set in absolutely perfectly =w= it was reinhard room, he did this because he was upset |
| Ok I haveto admit this was quite good. If this continues, I might actually like this The art still is weird to me. Should be better. Also I fear I spotted Reuental and Mittermeyer.. Lets hope that was not them. Next ep is alliance so I have to lower my expectations again I always felt in the old ova and now again that the story would be better if it was empire side only. You can certainly give the alliance some screentime, but it feels always off to me |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| Looking good looking good. Apart from shota and bishounen investation, everything is going way better than expected. |
Shirosune said: Reinhardt seems like a villian to me, is he supposed to appear that way? Maybe I just see him in the wrong way, but this was an interesting backstory episode! yeah this is exacly how you should feel with his character on the first few episodes. He by far is the character that has the biggest development in the series |
| Oberstein's voice sounds so good! When I first heard his voice I almost feel out of my chair. He sounds so much like the OVA version. Excellent pick in the voice actor! Plus like love his new design as much as I loved his original OVA's look. Kircheis is fantastic as well. He's my favorite in the original, and he's great here too! Plus I loved the scenes with him and Annerose, especially since it was heavily implied in the original OVA and Gaidens that they where in love with each other. Great episode again! The animation is so beautiful, too! So excited for the next episode! |
raynaninjaApr 17, 2018 7:01 PM
| Siegfried had plans on Reinhard's sister since he met her xD So that's what Reinhard is up to, hope he succeeds. |
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