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| yang is a fucking bad ass dude xD |
| Poor Yang Wenli :( He was so cute when he made that pouty face :3 |
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| If Yang deduces that Phezzan has a shadowy role in all this, how long until Reinhard suspects? |
| That's some seriously exciting turn of events right there... The disruption within the Alliance was evident from the very end of the coup-de-tat, but it's becoming very clear just how far off they've gotten from being a democratic society. Go straight at them, Yang! |
| Yang's back and forth internal commentary during the inquiry was hilarious. He tore up that fat bastard every single time. Major respect to Frederica this episode, she's demonstrated capability that puts her far above being simply a token assistant. So it seems the Alliance military and government have had a falling out and now the transparency of their pseudo-democracy is more apparent than ever. I like what Yang said about Reinhard, that even if his system isn't by the people, it's far more in line with being for the people than their current state of affairs. That warp at the end was intense. It's finally on. |
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| Yang confirmed savage |
| Greater sophistication of political commentary here, which I welcome. There's discussion of principle like the role of the state and also tiny details like hack politicians' use of vague, unsubstantiated "concerns" to launch baseless attacks. There's quite a bit of written English in this episode and surprisingly there are only the smallest of mistakes to be found ("Marksman Ship" instead of "Marksmanship"). Someone put some effort into this. Yang evens dots an "i"! There were some differences in the text of Yang's essay and the subtitles I was viewing, though. The subtitles speak of "the pretext of invasion by an external enemy" and the essay reads "to invade the nearby nations". I can't speak for how accurate a translation the subtitles represent but I can say they make less sense logically. There is a genuine threat of invasion; the audience knows this is exactly what Reinhard is planning and moreover has been the Empire's goal for 150 years! The Alliance's eager turn to aggression when it briefly had the upper hand provides a more meaningful insight into the state of its political culture. supersayen said: Yang figuring out Phezzan plan after watching a Phezzan ad (I think?) just came out of nowhere. The guy is smart but this is a little bit to much in my opinion. His mind is essentially magical which I find makes him kind of dull. His emotional moments are far more interesting than his intellectual ones. (I think that was supposed to be a kid's action show by the way; like an anime you'd see on TV when this OVA was made! I chuckled.) Despite Yang's supposed brilliance he was wrong with his assessment of Reinhard's dictatorship. He says it's possible to co-exist with it but Reinhard is dead-set on conquest of the Alliance because of his promise to Siegfriend (if he wasn't before). This is the problem with monarchy; one's man's most intense emotions are directing the fact of billions and there isn't even supposed to be a way to mediate this. Yang doesn't go as far as to make the completely banal observation that benevolent dictatorship is an effective government (he hedges frequently with terms like "at present") but even if the topic of his essay is what the Alliance should do in the immediate term he should really mention the inherent instability of a charismatic monarchy like Reinhard's. He seems to be judging Reinhard on his past actions (how else?) but in truth this results in a misjudgement. He's more volatile than Yang realizes. Joel_Shelton said: I believe Yang was correct by saying he wasn't a 'radical anarchist' (meaning chaos), but he's rather a 'rational anarchist' (societies and natural law, just no coercive nations or governments). He gives off too many anti-statist remarks not to be one. He's only working in the state, because he wants to prevent further violence being carried out. He understands the military is a political tool and without his genius plans, more lives would be lost on both sides. In the end, Yang just wants to be a historian, he really doesn't care about the military or the Free Plants Alliance, he just wants individuals to be free. An Enlightenment-style liberal, then. |
| Almost had a heart attack thinking Frederica was about to die there...After what happened with Jessica, I didn't want another cutie dying on me xD Props to Louis for doing his best to protect her though, I'll be sure to remember his name from now on :p As expected, Yang wasn't fazed at all with their questions. I loved seeing those old fools getting more and more pissed each them they didn't get the asnwer they wanted to hear from him. While I hate to see Yang in this predicament, I couldn't help but laugh when he was talking about quitting. I know a lot of people who hate their jobs could relate with him there lol. |
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| Wow. I'm so proud of Yang |
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| I think the Allaince is much more corrupt than the empire. |
| A well-balanced episode. Got some laugh from Yang confrontation with the council, the guy is very flexible. The inquiry is just another satire of how "free" this alliance is, the more i watch the more i want this nation to fall and Yang should lead the people to a new path. But unfortunately his patience is at its limit and he decided to resign. But once again the plot twist kicks in, Reinhard's fleet is here in such intense time, so things may get wacky from now. |
CzeroCJun 15, 2017 6:03 AM
| Subarashii, in the firsts four minutes, the theories or conclusions of Yang, are "perfects"!!! Genius!!! Only for this four minutes, worth watched it!!! |
| I really liked the intro scene with Yang writing about the state of the Alliance and how coexistence with the Lohengramm Administration is necessary, more so because it's a government for the people. Yang is a sensible person, but unfortunately sensible can't be said about the FPA's politicians given what we saw of the inquiry... Well sensible as Yang might be, I have doubts that it would be possible to coexist given Reinhard's commitment to conquering the universe. The inquiry didn't really make me angry per se, mostly annoyed. But also incredibly amused due to how Yang handled the questions. That end though!!! |
| Yang is my boy. He is dope. |
| I kinda wanted Yang to quit from the military, let's see those politician deal with the war |
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| Yang sama FTW. I want him to quit and let the government handle the war that is about to take place. When they will get crushed by the opposition in the war, then they will know the real value of Miracle Yang. |
| rofl Yang just triggered all those corrupt politician so hard |
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| "The nation that ... uses its power internally to suppress the citizens on the pretext of invasion by an external enemy is on the road to extinction." |
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| That was a great episode. It really seems that Empire and FPA just swapped places, with the first one going for more economic and political freedom through reformation and the second one quickly turning into a totalitarian puppet state controlled by some shady Phezzan politicians and religious cultists. I wonder how Yang will deal with that! Also, the inquiry was quite interesting, but confusing in some places for me. Yang was called a "radical anarchist" for saying that the individual is more important than the nation/state (up to that point he seems like a classical liberal and democrat, far from anarchist of any kind though). I was boggled at Yang's answer when he stated that he's basically a vegan but can't hold himself when he sees delicious meat. Just what kind of metaphor is that? Is Yang trying to convey that he doesn't like all that political and military stuff and wants to be left alone, but is "forced" to act another way by the circumstances? I guess it makes sense, given all his previous statements and overall worldview. Perhaps it's that attitude that the politicians mistake for anarchism, idk. |
| When their military is so weak when your automated defense is destroyed, they immediately accused Yang.. *sigh Damn Yang just destroyed those politicians' asses xD Freedom's side is pretty sad, there's almost no freedom at all If I'm Yang I probably switched to empire so quickly when insulted like that FAP side is really sad :P Looks like the real war starts here, that warp technology is way too OP |
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| I was quite worried for Frederica :S Excellent episode. Chairman was insufferable, but Yang kicked ass and maybe this inquiry will be the trigger for him to become the dictator for the alliance, at least it was already foreshadowed. And damn, the appearance of Geiersburg was quite chilling. Out of all times Yang isn't present, damn Phezanns. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
Fronzel said: For those who haven't noticed it yet, Phezzan is an antisemitic caricature, they represent evil backstabbing merchants puppeteering the government and controlling the media for profit (they even have the Zionist faction equivalent, with the silly Earth sect), so it's not really far-fetched to have a smart guy like Yang suspecting of them, as many far-right and far-left people have similar opinions today about the Jews. supersayen said: Yang figuring out Phezzan plan after watching a Phezzan ad (I think?) just came out of nowhere. The guy is smart but this is a little bit to much in my opinion. His mind is essentially magical which I find makes him kind of dull. His emotional moments are far more interesting than his intellectual ones. (I think that was supposed to be a kid's action show by the way; like an anime you'd see on TV when this OVA was made! I chuckled.) This, of course, would make Yang not as relatable for many of you. |
eyerok said: supersayen said: One thing I hated about this episode: Yang figuring out Phezzan plan after watching a Phezzan ad (I think?) just came out of nowhere. The guy is smart but this is a little bit to much in my opinion. I dont remember the particular scene, but I believe that when the media is controlled or influenced by the Government, I think it is possible to understand its plans and designs by observing things like that. The manner in which Westerland's massacre in episode 23 managed to be televised, yet not interrupted, is a good example. |
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Dr-Eyes said: I think the Allaince is much more corrupt than the empire. About the same. Absolute power corrupts. |
| Yang was a star of this episode. He absolutely mocked those fools. |
| 2021 Rewatch Reinhard's government is not "by the people", but Yang can see that it is "for the people". Great line. More fantastical space opera with the Fezzan-sponsored Imperial propaganda show that showed up on the Heinessen broadcasts (and that uses Dvořák – Symphony No. 9, too!). From this Yang pieced together that Fezzan wouldn't be happy if the democratic Alliance peacefully coexisted with Reinhard's Empire. A real genius. Yang is just mocking those enquiring him. Negroponte looks so pissed off but Yang's doing nothing wrong legally speaking. "No, but you could say I am a vegetarian. Although as soon as I look at a delicious meat dish, I break my commandments at once." is a great line. Nooo Greenhill, too naïve! But at least Machungo was there to beat the crap out of the Terraist PKC. Yang isolated in his room, threatening to resign was quite the scene. Geiersburg Fortress is here... |
Fortress_MaximusJun 1, 2021 5:19 PM
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| i jus realized how fast time passes in dis show |
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| god this reminds me so much of turkey after erdogan took over 2002 just go and look at the events that happened after it and that are still happening. damn this show was ahead of its time |
| the very much thing i liked about this episode - yang choosing his words carefully, and don't miss one bit. seriously, it was the most epic political episode i ever watched in anime. lol seems to me that only the war coming the alliance through the empire, but political war is already there. |
| A reminder that all governmental systems can fall into petty politics and corruption, even democracies. Great episode, hope Yang makes it out alive |
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Scrabble said: SlickDragon said: GAWD you have the exact same thinking as me. Watching LOGH up until now, this episode has enraged me by far far the greatest. Watching that FATFUCK inquire Yang made me want to absolutely rip his skin and flesh off. And they attack Lt.Greenhill???! Now I am seriously hoping that Yang will coup and crush these fucking shitbag politicians. GOD I am fuming right now. Going to rip each and everyone one of those politicians apart if I could just get my hands on them...This episode evoked such rage from me, I don't know when the last time an anime was able to do that to me. When Ltn Greenhill and Mashengo, Louis were ambushed by the PKC, and Mashengo started throwing it down, I couldn't help but get pumped shouting "Ike Frieza-Sama (same Voice Actor) Kick their Asses!".. the first time I've ever rooted for Frieza in my life. Such a sick twisted Government that runs the "Free" Alliance, sadly all too reminiscent of the current corrupt administration in the US, with the media all but 100% in their pocket sprouting their propaganda and trying to suppress the plethora of scandals and corruption. Sickening. This is also heavily reminiscent of Ender's Game, where Miracle Ender was also in effect imprisoned, like Yang, due to politicians fears and desperation to cling to power. It's just preposterous to think that Heroes can be treated that way. Yang is reaching his limit of tolerance, I only wish that he could join with Reinhardt and abolish the mockery of "democracy" that the Free Alliance supposedly stands for. If Kircheis was alive that would likely have been a probable outcome, since Kircheis greatly respected and held of Yang, and would smooth the transition of alliance between the two mammoths Reinhardt and Yang. This is one of the primary reasons Kircheis had to die, to render the otherwise sensible alliance between the two nearly impossible. Now they have the Imperials invading...Just great...If I was Yang I would jump ships and say SAYONARA FUCKBAGS. P.S. Excuse the extremely vulgar language. Personally I do not like to include these words in my vocabulary however in the case of portraying my extreme anger and rage I had no choice. don't worry we all had the same reaction xD |
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| Very intense but great episode, specially for Yang's character, Honestly Alliance deserves to lose with such a pathetic political mindset, a whole coup happened but nothing was learned from it, they literaly try to ruin and get rid of the biggest hero of their times. How did the politicians even decide this was a good idea is impossible to understand, even in real life this probably wouldn't happen once in a million years Yang hopefully can defend himself from this useless inquiry and disgracefull corruption, glad to see Lt Greenhill got his back in such times. |
| I really enjoyed the inquiry so far, it's interesting to watch! I just love Yang, his quick wits. |
SeijatachiiiiSep 4, 4:59 PM
| I think episodes like this show why this is considered one of the best anime series of all time. Yang's poliical commentary was brilliant - especially the part where a nation may suppress its citizens on the pretext of an enemy invasion and the part where societies differ from nations: In his own words: "It is individuals with autonomous intent who gather to establish a nation. In a democratic society it is axiomatic as to which one is the master and which the servant. [...] People may need societies, but they don't necessarily need nations". I love it when this series focuses on politics! |
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