That Time I got Reincarnated as a Slime
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May 10, 12:38 PM
#51
stevejawbs said: @Marinate1016 You’re still making really dumb takes like this one. People like proper world building. This is not proper world building. You’re excited because you know what’s coming, but anime-only fans do not. There’s so many fantasy worlds with far more complex world building that’s still interesting and engaging, and you think 2 hours of meetings is good world building. Get your head out of your ass, thank you. You’re still crying over people on a cartoon form enjoying a show instead of shitting on it. Get your head out your ass and go outside. And it’s funny how you say “still” when I’ve never spoken to you in my life and your act is less than a month old lmao. People “like proper worldbuilding” yea I guess that’s why tensura is the best selling isekai and top 5LNs overall for the last 5 years. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_light_novels You can not like it, idc it doesn’t affect me, but don’t ever mention me with childish insults again. |
May 10, 12:43 PM
#52
I will admit that I thought the action would begin in this episode, but it looks like that'll happen next time. Regardless of that, it was interesting to see the plans for Rimuru and his companions in dealing with Hinata and company. Aside from Veldora's amusing suggestions, the plan that Rimuru and the others have agreed to does seem rather convincing for it to work. It also showcased Gobwa, who does look pretty cute. Hopefully she and her team will contribute successfully in this plan. However, this episode did show the shady merchant group whose objectives are to interfere and screw over both Rimuru and Hinata. Granville and Maribel stood out to me the most here, as their plans for what they want to happen is a little concerning. The sooner these two and the other shady merchants are dealt with, the better. This battle will be a tough and complex one. I'm excited to see how this will turn out and what twists and turns might be in store for everyone involved. |
May 10, 12:50 PM
#53
Reply to Marinate1016
People still complaining about the world building, man this is not a battle shonen. It’s a long running LN, the action is coming, just be patient. All this info and set up will pay off and you’ll appreciate it. We’ve finally got Granville and Maribel too, I am so hype. Even in the dialogue heavy episodes I can’t help but get excited just seeing Rimuru and the gang tossing their chess like moves out there and planning for all eventualities.
Very excited for next episode!
Very excited for next episode!
@Marinate1016 Made in abyss, Mushoku tensei, Seirei ni Moribito, Erin, Twelve Kingdoms, Kino no tabi, Ancient Magus Bride, Girls Last Tour, Little Witch Academia, Kill la Kill, Mushishi, Houseki no kuni, Katanagatari, etc. All these shows have world building that explain stuff sometimes, and present its world naturally and has viewers piece together things visually in other times. Those are shows that have amazing world building compared to listing stuff like a bullet point 24/7 in this anime adaptation. All these shows are infinitely better in handling world building than this anime, especially this season. I dont even like every single anime on that list but the way world building elements are done here feel far more natural, and engaging/interesting as an anime viewer. Edit: Forgot to add Kingdom and Vinland Saga, those shows absolutely should be here too. |
MangagnaMMay 10, 12:58 PM
May 10, 12:51 PM
#54
why is rimuru so pathetic I want rimuru to give hinata a good beating so she can begging for mercy |
May 10, 12:51 PM
#55
MangagnaM said: @Marinate1016 Made in abyss, Mushoku tensei, Seirei ni Moribito, Erin, Twelve Kingdoms, Kino no tabi, Ancient Magus Bride, Girls Last Tour, Little Witch Academia, Kill la Kill, Mushishi, Houseki no kuni, Katanagatari, etc. All these shows have world building that explain stuff sometimes, and present its world naturally and has viewers piece together things visually in other times. Those are shows that have amazing world building compared to listing stuff like a bullet point 24/7 in this anime adaptation. All these shows are infinitely better in handling world building than this anime, especially this season. I dont even like every single anime on that list but the way world building elements are done here feel far more natural, and engaging/interesting as an anime viewer. Respectfully I’m not engaging with nobody that has a 3.74 mean score. I know you don’t enjoy anything. Not being around that energy. |
May 10, 12:52 PM
#56
Reply to Marinate1016
stevejawbs said:
@Marinate1016 You’re still making really dumb takes like this one.
People like proper world building. This is not proper world building. You’re excited because you know what’s coming, but anime-only fans do not.
There’s so many fantasy worlds with far more complex world building that’s still interesting and engaging, and you think 2 hours of meetings is good world building.
Get your head out of your ass, thank you.
@Marinate1016 You’re still making really dumb takes like this one.
People like proper world building. This is not proper world building. You’re excited because you know what’s coming, but anime-only fans do not.
There’s so many fantasy worlds with far more complex world building that’s still interesting and engaging, and you think 2 hours of meetings is good world building.
Get your head out of your ass, thank you.
You’re still crying over people on a cartoon form enjoying a show instead of shitting on it. Get your head out your ass and go outside.
And it’s funny how you say “still” when I’ve never spoken to you in my life and your act is less than a month old lmao. People “like proper worldbuilding” yea I guess that’s why tensura is the best selling isekai and top 5LNs overall for the last 5 years.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_light_novels
You can not like it, idc it doesn’t affect me, but don’t ever mention me with childish insults again.
@Marinate1016 It's called criticism. Sorry if the show you love is kind of shit right now, but don't let it be a reflection of who you are; no need to get personally offended. "Still", as in, you've been talking about how great this season is in every discussion. I thought this was pretty clear. You don't have to directly speak to me for me to read your comments on the forum. You know that your posts on the forum are public right? Maybe English isn't your first language, or maybe reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. I hear Tensura the LN is great. Considering we're here to talk about the anime, what does that have to do with this discussion? You know that they're two separate pieces of media right? You're really bad at this critical analysis thing. Maybe consider consuming more media so you have some better comparisons. I know it's hard to hear, but this season so far has been objectively pretty bad. It's not just "battle shonen" fans that are disliking it. Nice try though! |
Average MAL user's media literacy: Marinate1016 said: Not reading allat cause I don’t care. Tensura peak. Have a good one tho |
May 10, 12:53 PM
#57
stevejawbs said: @Marinate1016 It's called criticism. Sorry if the show you love is kind of shit right now, but don't let it be a reflection of who you are; no need to get personally offended. "Still", as in, you've been talking about how great this season is in every discussion. I thought this was pretty clear. You don't have to directly speak to me for me to read your comments on the forum. You know that your posts on the forum are public right? Maybe English isn't your first language, or maybe reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. I hear Tensura the LN is great. Considering we're here to talk about the anime, what does that have to do with this discussion? You know that they're two separate pieces of media right? You're really bad at this critical analysis thing. Maybe consider consuming more media so you have some better comparisons. I know it's hard to hear, but this season so far has been objectively pretty bad. It's not just "battle shonen" fans that are disliking it. Nice try though! Not reading allat cause I don’t care. Tensura peak. Have a good one tho |
May 10, 12:53 PM
#58
Reply to Embient
The memes about this season being meeting after meeting are funny, but if we're being serious, Tensura is less like a battle shonen and more like a story about building a nation with fights here and there. If you don't enjoy that I guess this isn't for you ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. This season has been really good to me so far.
@Embient This is a terrible defense. The previous seasons had plenty of world building and it wasn't done with nonstop back-to-back meetings. There's trade, diplomacy, reconnaissance, subterfuge, propaganda, sabotage etc. Instead of constantly talking about what they're gonna do, they can just show them doing it. |
May 10, 12:54 PM
#59
Reply to Marinate1016
MangagnaM said:
@Marinate1016 Made in abyss, Mushoku tensei, Seirei ni Moribito, Erin, Twelve Kingdoms, Kino no tabi, Ancient Magus Bride, Girls Last Tour, Little Witch Academia, Kill la Kill, Mushishi, Houseki no kuni, Katanagatari, etc.
All these shows have world building that explain stuff sometimes, and present its world naturally and has viewers piece together things visually in other times. Those are shows that have amazing world building compared to listing stuff like a bullet point 24/7 in this anime adaptation. All these shows are infinitely better in handling world building than this anime, especially this season. I dont even like every single anime on that list but the way world building elements are done here feel far more natural, and engaging/interesting as an anime viewer.
@Marinate1016 Made in abyss, Mushoku tensei, Seirei ni Moribito, Erin, Twelve Kingdoms, Kino no tabi, Ancient Magus Bride, Girls Last Tour, Little Witch Academia, Kill la Kill, Mushishi, Houseki no kuni, Katanagatari, etc.
All these shows have world building that explain stuff sometimes, and present its world naturally and has viewers piece together things visually in other times. Those are shows that have amazing world building compared to listing stuff like a bullet point 24/7 in this anime adaptation. All these shows are infinitely better in handling world building than this anime, especially this season. I dont even like every single anime on that list but the way world building elements are done here feel far more natural, and engaging/interesting as an anime viewer.
Respectfully I’m not engaging with nobody that has a 3.74 mean score. I know you don’t enjoy anything. Not being around that energy.
@Marinate1016 Thats okay if you dont want to engage or like me, but its not exactly prove my point wrong rationally with the response solely focusing on my 'low mean score'. I've given my examples and simplified reasonings with shows that I feel have handled world building more effectively in an anime medium than this one. |
May 10, 12:55 PM
#60
Reply to Marinate1016
stevejawbs said:
@Marinate1016 It's called criticism. Sorry if the show you love is kind of shit right now, but don't let it be a reflection of who you are; no need to get personally offended.
"Still", as in, you've been talking about how great this season is in every discussion. I thought this was pretty clear. You don't have to directly speak to me for me to read your comments on the forum. You know that your posts on the forum are public right? Maybe English isn't your first language, or maybe reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.
I hear Tensura the LN is great. Considering we're here to talk about the anime, what does that have to do with this discussion? You know that they're two separate pieces of media right?
You're really bad at this critical analysis thing. Maybe consider consuming more media so you have some better comparisons. I know it's hard to hear, but this season so far has been objectively pretty bad. It's not just "battle shonen" fans that are disliking it. Nice try though!
@Marinate1016 It's called criticism. Sorry if the show you love is kind of shit right now, but don't let it be a reflection of who you are; no need to get personally offended.
"Still", as in, you've been talking about how great this season is in every discussion. I thought this was pretty clear. You don't have to directly speak to me for me to read your comments on the forum. You know that your posts on the forum are public right? Maybe English isn't your first language, or maybe reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.
I hear Tensura the LN is great. Considering we're here to talk about the anime, what does that have to do with this discussion? You know that they're two separate pieces of media right?
You're really bad at this critical analysis thing. Maybe consider consuming more media so you have some better comparisons. I know it's hard to hear, but this season so far has been objectively pretty bad. It's not just "battle shonen" fans that are disliking it. Nice try though!
Not reading allat cause I don’t care. Tensura peak. Have a good one tho
@Marinate1016 Lol, just what I thought. My 5 year old special needs cousin does the same thing. |
Average MAL user's media literacy: Marinate1016 said: Not reading allat cause I don’t care. Tensura peak. Have a good one tho |
May 10, 12:59 PM
#61
Reply to Embient
The memes about this season being meeting after meeting are funny, but if we're being serious, Tensura is less like a battle shonen and more like a story about building a nation with fights here and there. If you don't enjoy that I guess this isn't for you ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. This season has been really good to me so far.
@Embient There are countless shows with heavy exposition, massively complex worlds, and multidimensional characters, and somehow they manage telling a far more cohesive story without it being "people in meetings". "If you don't enjoy then this isn't for you" is not a valid counterargument. It's what people say when they have no good response (or they're 10 years old). |
Average MAL user's media literacy: Marinate1016 said: Not reading allat cause I don’t care. Tensura peak. Have a good one tho |
May 10, 1:03 PM
#62
To be honest, I wish this was just audio. I could play off my phone, and I could do other things. I don't mind it being just narrative stuff. Just don't like the fact that it's just watching people sitting around a table for over 2 hours so far on the season. |
May 10, 1:13 PM
#63
May 10, 1:14 PM
#64
Reply to absolutelynormal
@watsym In fairness, I do not think this meeting could have just been an email.
@absolutelynormal it could definitely have been condensed in 1 or 2 episodes, the amount of information repeats and stating the obvious is so unbearable, also just general useless joking around makes the world building incredibly slow. I don't think I have ever read or seen such a slow paced form of media ever since the lord of the rings or the wheel of time (in fantasy setting), but at least there you are being set in scene and are actually living through the character's lives and in film the meetings are always condensed. This is just talking, not even doing anything, just a whole 2 hours of straight up talking. This is a fantasy setting, not a live documentary, the audience is meant to envision the spectacles of a fantasy not being stuck within a room listening to people giving exposition or planning their next move, rather show us their next move, show us what the exposition is. If the LN-writer wanted to make an accurate to life representation of the service job work industry in an office then he should've just marketed it that way instead of feeding us fake breadcrumbs of "the representation of the life of a reincarnated man within the body of a slime creature". We haven't seen a single thing being developed since episode 1. At least slice of life does a better job than this lifeless husk of constant corporate meetings. |
May 10, 1:22 PM
#65
Reply to StarFuryDuck2
@absolutelynormal it could definitely have been condensed in 1 or 2 episodes, the amount of information repeats and stating the obvious is so unbearable, also just general useless joking around makes the world building incredibly slow. I don't think I have ever read or seen such a slow paced form of media ever since the lord of the rings or the wheel of time (in fantasy setting), but at least there you are being set in scene and are actually living through the character's lives and in film the meetings are always condensed. This is just talking, not even doing anything, just a whole 2 hours of straight up talking. This is a fantasy setting, not a live documentary, the audience is meant to envision the spectacles of a fantasy not being stuck within a room listening to people giving exposition or planning their next move, rather show us their next move, show us what the exposition is. If the LN-writer wanted to make an accurate to life representation of the service job work industry in an office then he should've just marketed it that way instead of feeding us fake breadcrumbs of "the representation of the life of a reincarnated man within the body of a slime creature". We haven't seen a single thing being developed since episode 1. At least slice of life does a better job than this lifeless husk of constant corporate meetings.
@StarFuryDuck2 To add, I feel like the actual stakes don't really help either. If there are 4-5 episodes of meetings and it is a situation that genuinely has people being very fearful and having to figure out what to do in a panic, with opposition that are equals/much stronger than them/have a strategic or have a political advantage that makes the people we mainly follow have to desperately figure out a way to survive and accomplish their goals. Visuals and music can show the urgency these characters can face and it makes the meetings feel much more intense and have significantly more weight to it for those meetings to absolutely matter. If the conflict isn't at that significant of a level, then having it be an episode or two focused on important details and character thoughts sounds way better and more effective. This anime so far, especially with how the payoff with Clayman was with all the season 2 part 2 meetings that took place, in my opinion, has not much weight or stakes to it that makes me believe this can end terribly for Rimuru and it can cause irreparable damage to him or his country and his people if things go completely wrong and not every detail is considered. Characters look like they are just casually talking without urgency and not much expressions that signal any danger that is worth discussing over various meetings, stuff is repeated a lot, and even the opposition side doesn't feel like a group that can cause many genuine, believable issues. It's why I'm frustrated with Slime and how its world building can feel like it is done on very easy, amateur mode in a video game since meetings would matter more if conflicts felt more real to it. And like you said, the presentation of world building like a checklist rather than showing characters' tense expressions to the bad situation, or more of the actual world itself along the way hurts this a lot. |
May 10, 1:48 PM
#66
I can see how these episodes might seem boring and repetitive. This kind of storytelling appears to be more engaging (and faster) in a reading form. Although I appreciate the amount of detail they go into, because they are indeed important, most of it would be lost on the viewers anyway, so probably a somewhat different approach could be used to explain things along the way or something. |
May 10, 1:52 PM
#67
HiljainenSipuli said: 6 episodes of meetings from three different groups. and rimuru himself gets less and less screentime, we havent seen his human form in a few episodes. there is also quite a few people on rimurus side who even rimuru doesnt know about... gobwa even has a name, who named her? i do like how she looks. her name suggest that she is a goblin but the skin color and the horns suggest that she is an ogre or higher so gobwa was a goblin who was named by Rimuru and became a hobgoblin and she is an ogre now cuz goblin evolve into ogre |
May 10, 2:05 PM
#68
stop talkin get to work |
May 10, 2:13 PM
#69
We got to know a bit more of the different type of units Rimuru has at its disposal and dang, Gobua is super cute! Even with demons, dragons and all sort of mythical creatures the real evil ends up being money. It is a shame Shion taught Ranga how to restrain himself because it was super funny how he was no bs allowed. Sad to see so many people are getting more and more angry about the talking but thankfully I'm still enjoying it, the Clayman arc gave me more than plenty of action and I love the characters / world. What I don't like is the OP, but it is hard to follow up after the banger that was Like Flames, I hope they are cooking something like that for the second half. |
KanameYuukiMay 10, 2:19 PM
May 10, 2:17 PM
#70
May 10, 2:42 PM
#71
Reply to StarFuryDuck2
@absolutelynormal it could definitely have been condensed in 1 or 2 episodes, the amount of information repeats and stating the obvious is so unbearable, also just general useless joking around makes the world building incredibly slow. I don't think I have ever read or seen such a slow paced form of media ever since the lord of the rings or the wheel of time (in fantasy setting), but at least there you are being set in scene and are actually living through the character's lives and in film the meetings are always condensed. This is just talking, not even doing anything, just a whole 2 hours of straight up talking. This is a fantasy setting, not a live documentary, the audience is meant to envision the spectacles of a fantasy not being stuck within a room listening to people giving exposition or planning their next move, rather show us their next move, show us what the exposition is. If the LN-writer wanted to make an accurate to life representation of the service job work industry in an office then he should've just marketed it that way instead of feeding us fake breadcrumbs of "the representation of the life of a reincarnated man within the body of a slime creature". We haven't seen a single thing being developed since episode 1. At least slice of life does a better job than this lifeless husk of constant corporate meetings.
@StarFuryDuck2 Everything you say is pretty reasonable. My tongue in cheek comment was simply pointing out that this meeting (and all the meetings up to this point, I suppose) seem quite important and pretty essential in determining the overall shape of the events to follow. Now, whether we the audience had to be privy to all the details? Well, that is another question all together. I am sure there were other (even more artful) ways of presenting the information (or an abbreviated version of it) while being faithful to the content and spirit of the source material. That being said, there is one particularly interesting aspect of your point that I think deserves further discussion. You point out that this seems like, "an accurate to life representation of the service job work industry in an office" rather than the exciting escapist fantasy otherwise hinted at. And Slime does have plenty of aspects of the latter. But since our protagonist literally came from that environment (middle management at a general staffing firm, I believe?), it is kind of fun to see him apply his skills from his previous life in this unorthodox setting. Indeed, there have been many instances where the "action" revolves around maintaining good working relationships with competitors, high stakes meetings/conferences, talent acquisition, research and development, resource management, delegation of responsibility, etc. It does not always make for riveting television, but I just find it to be a charming little synergy between our protagonist's past life and his present. |
May 10, 2:45 PM
#72
Reply to KanameYuuki
We got to know a bit more of the different type of units Rimuru has at its disposal and dang, Gobua is super cute! Even with demons, dragons and all sort of mythical creatures the real evil ends up being money.
It is a shame Shion taught Ranga how to restrain himself because it was super funny how he was no bs allowed.
Sad to see so many people are getting more and more angry about the talking but thankfully I'm still enjoying it, the Clayman arc gave me more than plenty of action and I love the characters / world.
What I don't like is the OP, but it is hard to follow up after the banger that was Like Flames, I hope they are cooking something like that for the second half.
It is a shame Shion taught Ranga how to restrain himself because it was super funny how he was no bs allowed.
Sad to see so many people are getting more and more angry about the talking but thankfully I'm still enjoying it, the Clayman arc gave me more than plenty of action and I love the characters / world.
What I don't like is the OP, but it is hard to follow up after the banger that was Like Flames, I hope they are cooking something like that for the second half.
KanameYuuki said: Even with demons, dragons and all sort of mythical creatures the real evil ends up being money. This is an unironically hilarious point. |
May 10, 2:49 PM
#73
I don't care if they're just chilling or talking or doing cute little slice of life fluff, honestly thats all fine. I would literally enjoy anything happening that isnt just sitting around tables talking about their forces or the enemy forces. Info dump after info dump and not even a significant amount of actual info to take in. There's a right way to utilize an info dump and this isn't it there's no subtlety to it everything's just right off the nose and makes the story progression feel less dynamic and more like being lectured/talked at. I get people are sick of hearing all these complaints about the pacing, but this just isn't good storytelling. Info dumps like this are common in manga where your only way of expression is reliant on text to make up for the lack of animation. With physical media/animation tho you're supposed to compensate with SHOW don't tell. Doesn't mean it has to all just be action, but these flat info dumps just come across as lazy writing. The real issue just comes down to the managa using an excessive amount of stale info dumps to convey structured plot, it would have been alot more enjoyable if they'd tried more nuance and generally fit most information from these episodes as sub content mid events/ if they were doing more casual things and talking about it on the side (like with Geld, them getting drinks was at least a nice change from the table talk). I guess I'm just nitpicking the little things but I'm disappointed with this seasons plot structuring. I didn't hate season 2's info dumps because they were fit into the middle, at least start the season and casually slip in info dumps as it's going or something, anything to break up this monotonous pacing. |
May 10, 3:11 PM
#75
Last episode i was defending the meetings but now im starting to understand what people are talking about lmao. It’s really just getting out of hand we need something else besides a bunch of meetings. Don’t get me wrong the episode itself isn’t bad but with all the meetings it’s just like ehhhh. |
May 10, 3:15 PM
#76
Another terrible week for this series. What made the writers or directors think the majority of the audience would like to watch 30-minute meetings for 6 weeks. This is insane. If they wanted to introduce lore and world-building, there are other ways to do it that are more enjoyable for the viewer. I'm not saying this series needs a big fight scene to remain interesting but what makes the isekai genre interesting is when the protagonist introduces new technology to an underdeveloped world. When you see the city they are in right now it is like it went up overnight. I think focusing on city building like in the previous seasons would have been far more enjoyable than having us sit through meeting after meeting. |
May 10, 3:20 PM
#77
Yup, that's 20 minutes of my life I'm not getting back. I am so tired of these meetings. A PowerPoint on the same topic would have been more exciting than this |
May 10, 3:39 PM
#78
So this season now consists of 2 hrs worth of board meetings. Wow |
May 10, 3:41 PM
#79
What was it? What did I watch now? It was a strange and useless experience. |
May 10, 3:59 PM
#81
I would like to remind everyone that there are 24 episodes this season. Which means that 6 episodes, 1/4 or 25%, were used for a mix of recap, updates, investigation, and preparations. Last season ended with a war, this season showed the aftermath, and what will be coming next. This all established a foundation for the major events that will be occurring. Now that the stage has been set, I hope that these next episodes will be showing some much needed action sequences on multiple battle fields. I’m excited for these next 3/4 or 75% of the story to unfold. |
ejleonMay 10, 4:09 PM
May 10, 4:02 PM
#82
Reply to stevejawbs
@Marinate1016 You’re still making really dumb takes like this one.
People like proper world building. This is not proper world building. You’re excited because you know what’s coming, but anime-only fans do not.
There’s so many fantasy worlds with far more complex world building that’s still interesting and engaging, and you think 2 hours of meetings is good world building.
Get your head out of your ass, thank you.
People like proper world building. This is not proper world building. You’re excited because you know what’s coming, but anime-only fans do not.
There’s so many fantasy worlds with far more complex world building that’s still interesting and engaging, and you think 2 hours of meetings is good world building.
Get your head out of your ass, thank you.
@stevejawbs Mr stevejawbs, shouldn’t you be working on the next big technology at your company? 😂 jk I am an anime only watcher. I understood that the foundation of recap, update, investigation, and preparations are setting the stage for the next major events. |
ejleonMay 10, 4:07 PM
May 10, 4:02 PM
#83
Reply to ejleon
I would like to remind everyone that there are 24 episodes this season.
Which means that 6 episodes, 1/4 or 25%, were used for a mix of recap, updates, investigation, and preparations.
Last season ended with a war, this season showed the aftermath, and what will be coming next.
This all established a foundation for the major events that will be occurring.
Now that the stage has been set, I hope that these next episodes will be showing some much needed action sequences on multiple battle fields.
I’m excited for these next 3/4 or 75% of the story to unfold.
Which means that 6 episodes, 1/4 or 25%, were used for a mix of recap, updates, investigation, and preparations.
Last season ended with a war, this season showed the aftermath, and what will be coming next.
This all established a foundation for the major events that will be occurring.
Now that the stage has been set, I hope that these next episodes will be showing some much needed action sequences on multiple battle fields.
I’m excited for these next 3/4 or 75% of the story to unfold.
@ejleon I feel like I've seen this type of post in every discussion so far lol. "Next episode will be better" x5 I mean, we're all sticking around because we like the show (at least the ones that aren't trolling), but I'm personally lowering my expectations. I think that was another huge issue: we waited 3 years (if you don't count the movie, which was also pretty bad), and this is how it starts... |
Average MAL user's media literacy: Marinate1016 said: Not reading allat cause I don’t care. Tensura peak. Have a good one tho |
May 10, 4:07 PM
#84
Reply to ejleon
I would like to remind everyone that there are 24 episodes this season.
Which means that 6 episodes, 1/4 or 25%, were used for a mix of recap, updates, investigation, and preparations.
Last season ended with a war, this season showed the aftermath, and what will be coming next.
This all established a foundation for the major events that will be occurring.
Now that the stage has been set, I hope that these next episodes will be showing some much needed action sequences on multiple battle fields.
I’m excited for these next 3/4 or 75% of the story to unfold.
Which means that 6 episodes, 1/4 or 25%, were used for a mix of recap, updates, investigation, and preparations.
Last season ended with a war, this season showed the aftermath, and what will be coming next.
This all established a foundation for the major events that will be occurring.
Now that the stage has been set, I hope that these next episodes will be showing some much needed action sequences on multiple battle fields.
I’m excited for these next 3/4 or 75% of the story to unfold.
@ejleon Really depends on how the writing and the adaptation is going to be for the rest of it. If the eps are great, intense and leagues better than the anime, fair play. But the setup turning people off before these 75% eps happen isnt the best way of getting more people excited than where it is at right now. I know friends that dropped this because they didnt feel like the payoff wasnt worth sitting through the dragging and dull buildup and grew tired of the politics and meetings, and they were people that liked season 1 a lot too when the anime was much simpler and fresh. The foundation is set but if it was done a lot better, a lot more people would be excited for what is to come and a real buzz would be there for many more people than it is at right now. Season can improve a lot but it is hard to forget how slow these 6 eps were that felt like its own season when watching it |
May 10, 4:11 PM
#85
Reply to Ten
I can see how these episodes might seem boring and repetitive. This kind of storytelling appears to be more engaging (and faster) in a reading form. Although I appreciate the amount of detail they go into, because they are indeed important, most of it would be lost on the viewers anyway, so probably a somewhat different approach could be used to explain things along the way or something.
@Ten Yes agreed. A great, well-balanced take. It feels like I'm just reading a novel in subtitle form. The point of an adaptation should be to tell the original story while adapting to the medium. Imagine if the LOTR movies adapted the books like this. The movies would be 15 hours each. There are very practical ways to adapt the story, like skimming some of the less relevant details, combining scenes, showing instead of speaking, moving details around, etc. |
Average MAL user's media literacy: Marinate1016 said: Not reading allat cause I don’t care. Tensura peak. Have a good one tho |
May 10, 4:11 PM
#86
Even more meetings as Hinata arriving in Tempest won't be for a few weeks so we're not quite getting that yet. Rimuru must lay out his plan of attack on all the various fronts targeting him. Diablo being discovered in Falmuth is another problem Rimuru has besides Hinata pending arrival. Rimuru was very kind to let Diablo go back to Falmuth to try and fix the problem instead of just abandoning it. The civil war in Falmuth is brewing and Youm must come out on top for all Rimuru work in that country to be worthwhile. Diving up the forces to go out and fight all these different groups was rather complicated. Along with some of the bigger names we have over four thousand Tempest forces are headed to help Falmuth while some will be used for fighting the temple Knights following Hinata. Veldora as the last line of defense in the city, Benimaru and Soei will fight alongside Rimuru to face Hinata subordinates, A full battle plan was laid out with what maybe looks like the last meeting episode for a while. Besides whom we saw at the end, the Eastern merchant that's been alluded to this season and the Rozzo family which are a powerful eastern nations family, the amount of people with their own agendas and plans continues to grow. |
May 10, 4:12 PM
#87
Reply to stevejawbs
@ejleon I feel like I've seen this type of post in every discussion so far lol. "Next episode will be better" x5
I mean, we're all sticking around because we like the show (at least the ones that aren't trolling), but I'm personally lowering my expectations. I think that was another huge issue: we waited 3 years (if you don't count the movie, which was also pretty bad), and this is how it starts...
I mean, we're all sticking around because we like the show (at least the ones that aren't trolling), but I'm personally lowering my expectations. I think that was another huge issue: we waited 3 years (if you don't count the movie, which was also pretty bad), and this is how it starts...
@stevejawbs I understand the frustration, but they just ended a major war last season, showing the aftermath, how this affects the rest of world, how they respond, that’s how things work in history, it isn’t just constant fighting all the time. |
ejleonMay 10, 4:24 PM
May 10, 4:15 PM
#88
Reply to Embient
The memes about this season being meeting after meeting are funny, but if we're being serious, Tensura is less like a battle shonen and more like a story about building a nation with fights here and there. If you don't enjoy that I guess this isn't for you ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. This season has been really good to me so far.
@Embient Well put. It´s actually what I like more about this show is the political scheming and the different nations and the problem solving. When it comes to battles, Rimuru is so OP and conveniently stronger than everyone else that the outcome is not hard to predict. Besides, all the strongest creatures of that world are on his side. Instead of going to battle, Rimuru could send Diablo, Milim or Veldora and the outcome would be the same. |
May 10, 4:22 PM
#89
Reply to MangagnaM
@ejleon Really depends on how the writing and the adaptation is going to be for the rest of it. If the eps are great, intense and leagues better than the anime, fair play. But the setup turning people off before these 75% eps happen isnt the best way of getting more people excited than where it is at right now. I know friends that dropped this because they didnt feel like the payoff wasnt worth sitting through the dragging and dull buildup and grew tired of the politics and meetings, and they were people that liked season 1 a lot too when the anime was much simpler and fresh. The foundation is set but if it was done a lot better, a lot more people would be excited for what is to come and a real buzz would be there for many more people than it is at right now. Season can improve a lot but it is hard to forget how slow these 6 eps were that felt like its own season when watching it
@MangagnaM I think it is a matter of perspective. On one hand your friends dropped it because they think it slow, dull, boring, and they don’t want to wait for what’s coming next. That’s fine, I understand the frustration, they expected something different and this is not for them. On the other hand, I love these episodes, because it’s more realistic to historical world events, with seeing trade, economy, infrastructure, advancement, meetings, agreements, politics, government, preparations, war, betrayal, spies, etc. It is all exciting and enjoyable to watch from my perspective. |
May 10, 4:25 PM
#90
Reply to Marinate1016
stevejawbs said:
@Marinate1016 You’re still making really dumb takes like this one.
People like proper world building. This is not proper world building. You’re excited because you know what’s coming, but anime-only fans do not.
There’s so many fantasy worlds with far more complex world building that’s still interesting and engaging, and you think 2 hours of meetings is good world building.
Get your head out of your ass, thank you.
@Marinate1016 You’re still making really dumb takes like this one.
People like proper world building. This is not proper world building. You’re excited because you know what’s coming, but anime-only fans do not.
There’s so many fantasy worlds with far more complex world building that’s still interesting and engaging, and you think 2 hours of meetings is good world building.
Get your head out of your ass, thank you.
You’re still crying over people on a cartoon form enjoying a show instead of shitting on it. Get your head out your ass and go outside.
And it’s funny how you say “still” when I’ve never spoken to you in my life and your act is less than a month old lmao. People “like proper worldbuilding” yea I guess that’s why tensura is the best selling isekai and top 5LNs overall for the last 5 years.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_light_novels
You can not like it, idc it doesn’t affect me, but don’t ever mention me with childish insults again.
Marinate1016 said: why tensura is the best selling isekai and top 5LNs overall for the last 5 years. Which doesn't mean a thing for it's anime form. If I wanted them to make scenes where voice actors just read the book to me for 6 episodes, i'd buy an audiobook. |
May 10, 4:27 PM
#91
sodrainz said: Marinate1016 said: why tensura is the best selling isekai and top 5LNs overall for the last 5 years. Which doesn't mean a thing for it's anime form. If I wanted them to make scenes where voice actors just read the book to me for 6 episodes, i'd buy an audiobook. That’s tuff because even in anime form it’s been doing very well so 🤷🏾♂️ tuff luck. Maybe try JJK or BNHA |
May 10, 4:28 PM
#92
Reply to ejleon
@MangagnaM I think it is a matter of perspective.
On one hand your friends dropped it because they think it slow, dull, boring, and they don’t want to wait for what’s coming next.
That’s fine, I understand the frustration, they expected something different and this is not for them.
On the other hand, I love these episodes, because it’s more realistic to historical world events, with seeing trade, economy, infrastructure, advancement, meetings, agreements, politics, government, preparations, war, betrayal, spies, etc.
It is all exciting and enjoyable to watch from my perspective.
On one hand your friends dropped it because they think it slow, dull, boring, and they don’t want to wait for what’s coming next.
That’s fine, I understand the frustration, they expected something different and this is not for them.
On the other hand, I love these episodes, because it’s more realistic to historical world events, with seeing trade, economy, infrastructure, advancement, meetings, agreements, politics, government, preparations, war, betrayal, spies, etc.
It is all exciting and enjoyable to watch from my perspective.
ejleon said: because it’s more realistic to historical world events Imagine thinking real life historical trade and infrastructure is just people sitting around a coffee table saying Falmuth 9000 times |
May 10, 4:43 PM
#93
Five Elder, Maribell, Glenda, and those east merchant which kinda have a connection with Yuuki and be the one that killed Reyhiem, perhaps. I can't help but need to do a quick read in a tensura wiki to know a little about those Rozzo family, those old man, Granbell and the Five Elder as a whole counterpart of this episode plotting. I wish the anime also have a little faith to give more information, but so far its all good to me for now, tensura wiki is the answer.... Well, in any case, the more meeting finished being conducted. As the title suggest, the next episode shall be the beginning of the clash, starting with Falmuth kingdom civil war part. Wonder what Diablo do there.... |
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May 10, 4:53 PM
#94
I see a lot of people complaining about these meeting episodes but i love'em xD, i pray the next episode is the same so i can watch people complain more about it. |
May 10, 4:53 PM
#95
I get this is build up exposition but surely there is a better way to handle this. Balance out dialogue with something interesting happening on screen. Even if i were to binge this later it would feel weird as we move from meeting room to meeting room, with time supposedly having passed between them but we can feel it cos we been just jumping between meetings. And it gives the impression that 6 episode straight they ahve been holding consecutive meetings when things have been happening in between each meeting. I am a big fan of dialogue and world building but to be completely truthful the quality of dialogue has been poor. Some lines said by rimuru can be cut with little consequence. There is so much redundant dialogue (even as anime only) it just feels like padding for time. |
May 10, 4:56 PM
#96
They actually managed to make another episode of talking and nothing else, I thought for sure last week we were in for something interesting with Hinata on the move but I guess the amount of time it’s taking her to get to Tempest allowed for more meetings lol. And honestly I think this was one of worst ones so far too, it was cool seeing the deadhead guy again, as well as the new babe Gobwa and the new villains, but everything that was discussed was basically just setting Rimuru’s team up to wipe all the enemies, yeah there’s the special thing where they can’t kill the knights but I know ain’t nobody gonna struggle, I’ll be pleasantly surprised if they do. And wow that Glenda girl actually has a modern pistol lol, they couldn’t even think of a unique design for this world’s guns? I guess it’s possible a reincarnated or teleported person brought them into this world but I still think it would have been cooler with a design that’s more fitting for the world, it just kinda looks goofy the way it is. And lastly, I just wanted to mention that I’m not necessarily someone that wants action, I mainly want them to make these talking episodes more interesting, the biggest thing being spice up the visuals, I’ve been watching Monogatari and it’s insane how much more engaging their discussions in that show are, it also helps that what they talk about in that show is a lot more intriguing lol. I really just wish we got more than a camera panning around the room and the characters, they could do a lot more imo. But thankfully the next episode title sounds promising, maybe all this talk will be worth it, but I kinda doubt it, I’m sure it’ll be fun to watch at least. |
May 10, 5:01 PM
#97
sodrainz said: ejleon said: because it’s more realistic to historical world events Imagine thinking real life historical trade and infrastructure is just people sitting around a coffee table saying Falmuth 9000 times Imagine not knowing anything about 6,000 years of human history … how embarrassing And you changed what I said, so you lied. |
May 10, 5:06 PM
#98
Anyone else having trouble following what's going on? I mean, all the name drops and discussions that have long worn out their welcome, seeing the same room for half a cour, it's not hard to grasp, just hard to pay attention. Look, I don't think anyone here has a problem with info dumps and buildup, but for me incessent yapping all this time, combined with broad but shallow characterization, has left me completely indifferent. |
May 10, 5:09 PM
#99
Reply to StateofOhayo
Anyone else having trouble following what's going on? I mean, all the name drops and discussions that have long worn out their welcome, seeing the same room for half a cour, it's not hard to grasp, just hard to pay attention.
Look, I don't think anyone here has a problem with info dumps and buildup, but for me incessent yapping all this time, combined with broad but shallow characterization, has left me completely indifferent.
Look, I don't think anyone here has a problem with info dumps and buildup, but for me incessent yapping all this time, combined with broad but shallow characterization, has left me completely indifferent.
@StateofOhayo Completely with you on that one. No issues with expo dumping and buildup but its the amount of redundant dialogue that just get thrown in there and random name drops with no actual expositiong dumps explaining what they are to build up a false sense of hype through mystery. At this point, i'm almost wishing they do a full season of only meetings, if for no other reason then to just meme. |
May 10, 5:13 PM
#100
Weiren said: @StateofOhayo Completely with you on that one. No issues with expo dumping and buildup but its the amount of redundant dialogue that just get thrown in there and random name drops with no actual expositiong dumps explaining what they are to build up a false sense of hype through mystery. At this point, i'm almost wishing they do a full season of only meetings, if for no other reason then to just meme. “Radom name drops” I know that the weird family at the end I didn’t know. But who else gave you trouble? |
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