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| this adapted 2 chapters like every other episodes,the pacing is fine,btw best ep so far,nice that in the op there are some cover of chapters and volumes. |
| Ok so Akeladd is a mixed of Danish and Welsh blood but then I don't understand, are the soliders he lead Danes or Vikings? |
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| New OP and ED are very good and Askeladd's past is interesting |
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| I'm already liking the new op. I can't wait to see more Thorfinn vs Thorkell action. Interesting to learn more about Akeladd's past and his true thoughts for the first time. Canute trying to argue with Thorfinn was funny. |
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BetoSCR said: The reveal about Askeladd being descendant of Artorius didn't impact me much. As far as I remember, it doesn't have a great effect in the plot as of now. I mean that seems to be part of the reason why he wants to protect Wales. The bigger reveal was that his mom was taken by force by his dad, and that's where his hatred for Danes comes from. Throughout the series we've always seen that Askeladd is way more cultured than all of his men. He seems to have a grudge for what destruction they've caused. All things considered it's just part of his motivation to secure prince Canute |
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Lelouch0202 said: Great episode as always. It was interesting to hear about Askeladd's past, his birth and lineage. Does he hate the Danish because of how his mother was treated by his father? I'm interested to see if he can actually make his plan work. It was cool to see Canute finally stand up for himself. I'm a little confused about the whole European history. I'm not very familiar with it, what exactly did Britannia as a country comprise of? Was it essentially United Kingdom as it stands today? Did the countries of England, Wales and Scotland exist pre-Britannia or post? Who exactly is Artorius and are the Welsh people in this show descendants of the Romans who once ruled? go watch Code Geass and you'll understand |
| its strange that they give the name Ragnar to that annoying guy, Ragnar is supposed to be a legendary king among the vikings |
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silversaint said: It was also a very common Norse name.its strange that they give the name Ragnar to that annoying guy, Ragnar is supposed to be a legendary king among the vikings |
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| Canute is cute af, ngl. No homo of course |
| Askeladd looks so badass in the op. Also can't spell Canute without cute. |
MetaKite said: silversaint said: It was also a very common Norse name.its strange that they give the name Ragnar to that annoying guy, Ragnar is supposed to be a legendary king among the vikings if thats true i guess that explains it btw is this Bjorn supposed to be The Bjorn Ragnarsson? |
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| I didn't like the new opening as much as the first one, but it's still solid. I like the new ending a lot better than the previous one, though. There was a funny frame in the episode, but BBCode keeps failing so i'll give a link of it:  dats meme material right there Mod edit: Embedded the picture. |
DeadlyRavenOct 7, 2019 4:20 PM
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silversaint said: No, that Bjorn is from a completely different era from a couple hundred years before. If anything, I think this one was named after him. Bjorn itself is kind of a common name too. First time I heard it I was a little kid and it was one of the 4 members of the pop group ABBA.MetaKite said: It was also a very common Norse name. if thats true i guess that explains it btw is this Bjorn supposed to be The Bjorn Ragnarsson? |
silversaint said: MetaKite said: It was also a very common Norse name. if thats true i guess that explains it btw is this Bjorn supposed to be The Bjorn Ragnarsson? Vinland Saga is like 200~ years after Vikings. In fact, the real Thorfinn was a descendant of that Bjorn. |
LeMortonOct 6, 2019 7:32 PM
| Great episode! Askeladd has quite the plan up his sleeve. I also like that we found out some of his background. |
LeMorton said: silversaint said: if thats true i guess that explains it btw is this Bjorn supposed to be The Bjorn Ragnarsson? Vinland Saga is like 200~ years after Vikings. In fact, the real Thorfinn was a descendant of that Bjorn. oh that explains it, i was hoping we d see Ivar but thats not happening thanks |
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| Good episode, not my favorite but still. It's being faithful, so I really appreciate the dialogue and character development especially in Askeladd's case. The animation quality dips a little in this one, but it's not a big deal as this episode doesn't really need great animation. Zack312 said: For anime watcher only, better be prepared for the next ep. Because some heavy stuff is going to happen, Quite hard to swallow actually. Oh yeah. Fuck man, that shit hits hard. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
DeadlyRavenOct 7, 2019 4:21 PM
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| > So, the Prince finally spoke more to Thorfinn. Cute. (no homo) > We get to more know about Askeladd's past. Nice mix of Danish and Welsh blood. > Pacing's quite alright. > I want to know more about his past. |
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| Finally the big reveal is done. I like how the OP sequences highlight Askeladd's role as the one who leads the change. The OP is cool with Man with a Mission back in action and the ED vibes the soul. |
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| New OP/ED, and I'd say I have to get used to them. Whew, that confidence with Askeladd to outwit the English army of Wales, but with Prince Canute having to face the crowd that he's not accustomed to, it's gonna be hard. Plus his cowardice doesn't help that he's cautious. Askeladd is half-Welsh, half-Danish by his birth, but he vehemently profuses that the Danes aren't to his liking. But you can count on his judgment that he doesn't make stupid choices. Yea this episode felt slow, but knowing there's story progression, and shit is gonna come soon, I'm stoked. |
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| -The new OPs and Endings have nice animation, but I'm not a fan of the music. Oh well. That's not really too important anyway. -I liked the negotiation scene. It showed off the characters very well. Askeladd is definitely very intelligent and well-versed. Cnut is annoying as hell. I like Ragnar though. He really cares for Cnut and loves him like a parent. He seems like one of the few good people in this anime (but I'm not gonna moral high-horse at people from 1000 years ago). -Despite my annoyance for Cnut, I felt really bad for him when Thorfinn called him a loser. He's just too innocent, I guess. He knows as far as world-experience goes, he has nowhere near the amount of these people. -I liked hearing more about Askeladd's backstory. I guess being mixed-blood was an even bigger deal back then. I mean, I can't blame the Welsh for thinking of Danes as animals... >Askeladd: "I hate the Danes." Probably the quote of the episode. Askeladd's an asshole, but he's intelligent. It must be awful to be stuck in that lifestyle when you want a different one. Or maybe I'm reading it wrong... >That argument between Thorfinn and Cnut near the end. This anime really is well-written at times. I love it when characters in anime do stuff like Cnut does. It makes them feel so real. Cnut had been thinking about what Thorfinn said the entire time, and had been formulating a reason for his behavior. It reminds me of when I was a child. Children do this type of thing a lot (Adults do too, but it seems very common in children from my experience). It just says a whole lot about Cnut's character. Something like a small insult will stick to him, whereas it wouldn't for an average man in this world. Another really solid episode. I would also like to add that they did the Welsh mountains justice in this. The scenery is always spot-on. Damn, I love it. Lelouch0202 said: Great episode as always. It was interesting to hear about Askeladd's past, his birth and lineage. Does he hate the Danish because of how his mother was treated by his father? I'm interested to see if he can actually make his plan work. It was cool to see Canute finally stand up for himself. I'm a little confused about the whole European history. I'm not very familiar with it, what exactly did Britannia as a country comprise of? Was it essentially United Kingdom as it stands today? Did the countries of England, Wales and Scotland exist pre-Britannia or post? Who exactly is Artorius and are the Welsh people in this show descendants of the Romans who once ruled? People have probably already answered you, but, what the hell! >Does he hate the Danish because of how his mother was treated by his father? My interpretation is this. In general, the Danes were viscous vikings. Any ethnicity that was mostly viking/barbarian at the time was considered to be savage. Groups like the Romans, the Celts, the English, the French, etc. considered groups like Danes, Norse, and Swedes to be below human. The thing is, Askeladd is a smart guy, and from his POV, he probably agrees with that consensus. Such a thing is not associated with intelligence today, of course, but at the time, I would bet it would be entirely reasonable for a more intelligent person of one of these groups to grow to resent their group. From Askeladd's POV, he probably considers the Danish part of his blood to be a curse, and the reason he is still a viking savage when he is cunning enough to already be better off. Things have changed, but back then associating things like that with ethnicity was pretty much what 99% of people did. Danes were considered savages by the rest, so a more intelligent Dane may grow to resent their blood, especially if they were mixed-blood. This all sounds racist to a modern person, but keep in mind this was 1000 years ago, and morals on that type of thing were entirely different. That's just based off what I know though. I could be wrong. >what exactly did Britannia as a country comprise of? I am very sure it was just England, Wales, and a portion of Modern Scotland. It was under the Romans, which is why that one general character has a Roman name. Before the Romans fell, parts of Europe were generally more advanced, which is why Britannia is held to such high standards to these people. Romans had plumbing, roads, organized currency, and a rotating building! They were a very amazing people! >Who exactly is Artorius and are the Welsh people in this show descendants of the Romans who once ruled? This, I don't know as much about. Sorry! But I will warn you to be wary not to bump into Dark Souls lore when looking for information on Artorius. There is a Dark Souls character with the real man's namesake. Hope I was of some help! Illyricus said: I thought that the two people that appeared at the beginning of the episode were Thorfinn and Canute. Turns out they were young Askeladd and his mother lmao. Finally Canute hold a conversation of his own. Really liked that his lack of words these episodes are due being cautious and not necessarily because he's shy, spoiled brat. We know more about Askeladd's past, but what interested me the most is that he hates the danes. I wonder why, may be due the treatment his mother suffered? Or it is something more? Hopefully, it will be revealed alter. New ED is nice, I don't like it as much as Torches, but it is good. Gotta get used to new OP, however. >I thought that the two people that appeared at the beginning of the episode were Thorfinn and Canute. Turns out they were young Askeladd and his mother lmao. Yeah, haha, it's hard to tell all these damn blondes apart! A_Sad_Dust_Cloud said: Okay, I realise this might be a bit of an ask, but do you think it would've been better if the show was properly multi-lingual? Like for when characters are speaking Welsh and English they have the Japanese actor deliver the lines in that language, or hiring a Welsh speaking actor to play Asser in this episode. Danish can still be substituted for Japanese, but I've been finding it a bit jarring when a character will say something like "oh ho, you speak my language do you?" when literally everything is still being spoken in Japanese. That out of the way though, me likely. I love that cold open of a young Askeladd that you're (probably) gonna assume is Thorfinn at first until they turn it around later on with the twist. The twist itself though... errr... I dunno yet. I'm not sure I like this change in Askeladd because I think it undermines a lot of his already established character, but we'll see where it goes. BTW, the Artorius story they go with as the origin of the King Arthur legend. I went and looked that up to see if it was actually true and, to put it bluntly, no, not really. The origin of the King Arthur story is still highly debated today. There is some potential evidence that King Arthur was a real historical figure in the 5th and 6th centuries who did take part in the Battle of Badon, but one of those texts also claims that he singlehandedly slew 960 men in that battle, so the validity of those texts is... questionable at best. One minor cool thing though, the clouds. In a lot of smaller shots, that you might not even notice, the clouds in the background are moving slowly. It's little attentions to detail like that I really like. I like the new OP a lot actually, I think the visuals are a lot more interesting than the last one. The ED though, I think is a bit of a downgrade. I still like it, but I don't think anything can replace Torches. >Okay, I realise this might be a bit of an ask, but do you think it would've been better if the show was properly multi-lingual? Oh for sure, but that goes for a lot of anime that take place across Europe. It's weird enough that all these vikings are speaking Japanese, haha. But, it's a Japanese show, so I guess we have to deal with it. That's one thing I'll give Western media a + on. Breaking Bad takes place in New Mexico, so they use English and Spanish when appropriate. Italian mobster films often have Italian and English dialogue. A-K-A said: Ok so Akeladd is a mixed of Danish and Welsh blood but then I don't understand, are the soliders he lead Danes or Vikings? They are both Danes and vikings. Dane is an ethnic group. Viking is an occupation. Elucid said: Zack312 said: For anime watcher only, better be prepared for the next ep. Because some heavy stuff is going to happen, Quite hard to swallow actually. Oh yeah. Fuck man, that shit hits hard. You two managed to get me even more hyped for next week's episode.  |
| Oh damn Oh damn Seeing Canute's outburst was quite wholesome tbh, feels like Thorfinn made a friend. And Canute too naturally And we get to know much more about Askeladd's backstory. I first thought it was Thorfinn after another timeskip lol Askeladd's story runs deep it seems. As does Canute's. I was already wondering if he really is the only child of the King but if they slaughter one another in the family it's sort of understandable No action this episode but that doesn't mean it's bad. This episode gives some characters much more depth and also feeds to the plot by revealing parts of Akeladd's plan |
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| I liked the inclusion of a bit of sociology and Darwinism, as well as the revelation of Askellad's ideology and a bit of his philosophy. I feel as though his psychology was unravelled really well during this episode, and this episode felt, to me at least, really well animated and choreographed. That ending song was really good and mixed well with the visuals, too. |
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| Canute best girl also who the fuck rated this a 1 out of 5 lol |
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| Cool, new EP And ED. As much as I wanted to say that this ep was boring, we found some information about Askeladd's past and also Canute. Still surprised about Canute's personality tho |
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| The first 10 seconds I was like: "Wait... Did I skip something?" But it obviously made sense throughout the episode. Interesting episode. Askeladd is my fav character so far, so it's been nice knowing his roots and more about his way of acting. I'd hoped the mystery would've last longer though. I wouldn't mind returning focus on Thorfinn a bit more and I really want to see how his tribe (family and merchant guy that swore to save him) will act. If they will at all, ofcourse. |
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Neji said: After one week wait what a boring episode. The manga has huge amount of materiel so why are they so slow? Absolute garbage. Boring? are we watching the same anime?  The most catching part of the OP Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
DeadlyRavenOct 7, 2019 4:22 PM
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| The new set of OP and ED songs were really good, along with the animations for them both, too. =) The episode itself was dialogue-heavy, but it was still very interesting to hear more of Askeladd's past. He's half-Danish and half-Welsh, but he dislikes the Danes more, though. Considering he's leading his pack of Danish Vikings, that's is a bit hard to believe at first, but he's a smart man, so I do believe his word here. It's also nice to see Canute finally breaking out of his shell and is now talking, mainly after Thorfinn verbally taunted him over his failure to speak out during the earlier stand-off in the Welsh mountains. Not only was Ragnar's reaction to Canute talking was hilarious, but I found Canute ranting at Thorfinn to be rather cute as well. ^_^ |
AnubisSchu said: liamhabib said: " A man, slave to gold, holds whip... And beats the slave he bought with that gold as if he claims he is the master. HE just doesn't see it for himself. Every living human being is a slave to something."- AskeladdI liked the inclusion of a bit of sociology and Darwinism, as well as the revelation of Askellad's ideology and a bit of his philosophy. I feel as though his psychology was unravelled really well during this episode, and this episode felt, to me at least, really well animated and choreographed. That ending song was really good and mixed well with the visuals, too. Askeladd's psychology is really interesting. I can't wait to see how he develops fr |
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| The new OP is dogshit, even screamo was better. |
magictuch said: Yeah I realised afterwards that vikings were scnadinavians and that Scandinavia actually include DenmarkA-K-A said: Ok so Akeladd is a mixed of Danish and Welsh blood but then I don't understand, are the soliders he lead Danes or Vikings? His troops are danish vikings. To be a viking means to be a raider. |
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| Smooth way to avoid an unnecessary conflict. Good episode overall. Knowing more about Askeladd's backgrounds and lineage was really interesting. Now, based on his talk with Gratianus, it seems a death flag was set for Ragnar. I never liked the guy if I'm honest but I wonder how Canute might react to the shock of seeing him getting killed. Not so invested in the new OP yet but I like its visuals way more than the first one (though I think I got spoiled by watching it...). The ED is good but as the fanboy I am, I have to say Aimer's one was better :3 |
| I love the new ending |
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| I thought it was Thorfinn at the beginning of the episode. good opening and ending |
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| New OP and ED, love it especially the OP. Things are looking good right now, Prince Canute talking, Askeladd's past, getting Wales as an ally, and ofcourse Askeladd's true intention. Looks like the revenge and fight isn't the main topic right now, which is the best for sure because I am enjoying it. |
| This was an interesting episode plot-wise. Not too much happened but we did get some character development. The reveal about Askalaad's heritage was an interesting twist. I didn't really expect it but I guess they've been building it up with all the Roman references. Seeing Canute get mad was a pretty cool scene. Hopefully we'll see more of that in the future. |
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