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Mar 27, 2018 8:11 AM

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So, there will be a sequel. B: The Middle Term ?? XD
Mar 27, 2018 2:07 PM
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The storyline was mediocre but the direction alone makes up for it
Mar 28, 2018 7:28 AM
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One problem I have with this show is, why did some of the Regis turn into dust when they died and some didn't??
Mar 29, 2018 10:25 AM
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I absolutely fail to understand people fascination with this series...I mean on paper sure this series is probably decent ... but in reality...it was average at best...

My main issue with this series is that it tried to do too many things at once and ended up failing at all of them.

First if you're going to have limited episodes...then pick a genre...
Second have watch this in both sub and dub so maybe there was issues with translation...but if not...hire better writers cause the dialogue really sucked...it seemed like they just threw words on the wall and used whatever stuck...

The only characters they did properly was Keith and Gilbert in fact I think that the series would have been 200k times better if it was just about the 2 of them....but then again maybe it would end up being too much like Monster...who knows...

What I do know is that the quality of anime have been on the decline for a few years now and its gotten so bad that people have started seeing quality in mediocrity...smh
Mar 30, 2018 7:57 AM
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Coondaddy said:
One problem I have with this show is, why did some of the Regis turn into dust when they died and some didn't??

All did, well, except for the first one? It does warrant some discussion whether the first "Reggie" (at park hunting female) is actually a Reggie or not, or whether he was defeated using the blue steel (which is a requirement for their DNA to fall apart), but otherwise all other Reggies defeated using excessive blue steel did fall apart into sand. If you think otherwise, please provide more precise examples so that I may dispel your confusion.
Gungrave223 said:
I absolutely fail to understand people fascination with this series...I mean on paper sure this series is probably decent ... but in reality...it was average at best...

My main issue with this series is that it tried to do too many things at once and ended up failing at all of them.

First if you're going to have limited episodes...then pick a genre...
Second have watch this in both sub and dub so maybe there was issues with translation...but if not...hire better writers cause the dialogue really sucked...it seemed like they just threw words on the wall and used whatever stuck...

The only characters they did properly was Keith and Gilbert in fact I think that the series would have been 200k times better if it was just about the 2 of them....but then again maybe it would end up being too much like Monster...who knows...

What I do know is that the quality of anime have been on the decline for a few years now and its gotten so bad that people have started seeing quality in mediocrity...smh

It must have been truly a horror for you to break the silence and come out on the forums. But the thing is, your implications are wrong. Both storylines, Keith and Gilbert, Koku and Yuna, are part of one compelling story, having their own philosophy and concepts. I can understand why Koku and Yuna's storyline was to be despised by many, even though their anger is misguided. But there was nothing wrong with it to not make it a part of larger plot, which is set and ended by Gilbert. The supernatural part of the series provide questions, origin of which is philosophical, and I am surprised no one did say "Oh look the DNA part is something like Assassin's Creed". While the Keith and Gilbert philosophy is "closer" to us, as in is found in our reality, the Koku and Yuna one is surrounding our species as a whole. Without Koku and Yuna, the series would not have been what it is. It would lose the existential dimension and become a mere rivalry between insanity and genius of human being. Which is great, but together they create something even greater. This series is the closest to achieving the rank Masterpiece (while not being a complete masterpiece YET because there is still another season, presumably) I have seen in the course of several years. Why is that, you might refuse to ask? Because it strives to be what True Art should.
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Mar 30, 2018 8:28 AM

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This anime turned out to be nothing what I wanted it to be. I saw the preview video on netflix and immediately became interested because of how it was advertised. It turned out to be an entirely different show that I couldn't enjoy. I was bored often and just wasn't interested in anything going on. The anime didn't know what it wanted to be and it ended up being all over the place.
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This anime turned out to be nothing what I wanted it to be. I saw the preview video on netflix and immediately became interested because of how it was advertised. It turned out to be an entirely different show that I couldn't enjoy. I was bored often by the time and just wasn't interested in anything going on. The anime didn't know what it wanted to be and it ended up being all over the place.

And the thing is, it has no obligation to turn out how you wanted it to. It has an obligation to be a decent work of art, whether our perception of it distorts the values it has or not, is irrelevant. There is "enjoyment", and there is "fathoming art".
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Mar 30, 2018 9:06 AM

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Daniel_Naumov said:
FoolyFate said:
This anime turned out to be nothing what I wanted it to be. I saw the preview video on netflix and immediately became interested because of how it was advertised. It turned out to be an entirely different show that I couldn't enjoy. I was bored often by the time and just wasn't interested in anything going on. The anime didn't know what it wanted to be and it ended up being all over the place.

And the thing is, it has no obligation to turn out how you wanted it to. It has an obligation to be a decent work of art, whether our perception of it distorts the values it has or not, is irrelevant. There is "enjoyment", and there is "fathoming art".


Everything I said relates to me. It reflects my opinion of the anime. I never said it had an obligation to be anything. The creators make an anime, I watch it, I develop a personal opinion on it. It's not like i'm calling people out for liking it. If you enjoyed it, then fine. I just couldn't enjoy it myself.
Mar 30, 2018 9:18 AM
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FoolyFate said:
Daniel_Naumov said:

And the thing is, it has no obligation to turn out how you wanted it to. It has an obligation to be a decent work of art, whether our perception of it distorts the values it has or not, is irrelevant. There is "enjoyment", and there is "fathoming art".


Everything I said relates to me. It reflects my opinion of the anime. I never said it had an obligation to be anything. The creators make an anime, I watch it, I develop a personal opinion on it. It's not like i'm calling people out for liking it. If you enjoyed it, then fine. I just couldn't enjoy it myself.

Alright, since you did not imply it was somehow "bad" because you did not enjoy it, I guess I can't get angry at you about it. But if you did, oh boy...
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Mar 30, 2018 9:21 AM

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At the end of this series I have the same question as many other people.

Why the scifi element.

The the Keith Flick section was awesome.

The black King section lacked any sort of depth.
Mar 30, 2018 9:40 AM
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... Oh boy maybe I should simply copy it...

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At the end of this series I have the same question as many other people.

Why the scifi element.

The the Keith Flick section was awesome.

The black King section lacked any sort of depth.


Your inability to fathom the implications and philosophy of the "Black King" storyline does not anyhow impair its philosophical value. Aside the eternal and obvious "Gods/Creators of ours" narrative which does not get explored yet in this series, there are several other less known and explored matters: Keith Flick was technically a father to the Demigods, because without his involvement the Scripture would remain unsolved, disallowing Koku and Yuna (who are somewhat the only Demigods amongst the created 13) to be reborn again. While it is unknown if they actually are Demigods or merely more advanced species with deeper ties and bonds inbetween themselves, the "Human create its Gods" was very well scratched. Then there is the "Gods amongst us", as the living demigod would actually question the legitimacy of most, if not all, monarchies which are believed (or were believed) to draw their legitimacy from the Gods who bestow them with a right to fairly rule the subjects on Earth. Would also blow up some religions, as most would try to claim it is their own Demigod that stepped on the Earth. And then there was Eternal Loyalty of the subjects of the Black King, and a bond of "True Love" between Koku, Yuna and Izanami (The Black King and two Maidens). All of which warrants just some thought process not only to fathom, but to reflect upon it.
I understand the lack of understanding of the philosophy comes from inexperience of the viewer. It will come around one day. Until then I guess I have to bear with you all...
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Mar 30, 2018 5:33 PM
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Yep, another series on which my time was well spent.Since it's titled 'B-The beginning'i bet there's a 2nd season can't wait for that one.
Overall,storyline was ok,damn good ending and OP,sweet graphics and a philosophical workout.Tbh I was hooked since the 3rd ep on this.
Mar 30, 2018 10:36 PM
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Daniel_Naumov said:
Coondaddy said:
One problem I have with this show is, why did some of the Regis turn into dust when they died and some didn't??

All did, well, except for the first one? It does warrant some discussion whether the first "Reggie" (at park hunting female) is actually a Reggie or not, or whether he was defeated using the blue steel (which is a requirement for their DNA to fall apart), but otherwise all other Reggies defeated using excessive blue steel did fall apart into sand. If you think otherwise, please provide more precise examples so that I may dispel your confusion.
Gungrave223 said:
I absolutely fail to understand people fascination with this series...I mean on paper sure this series is probably decent ... but in reality...it was average at best...

My main issue with this series is that it tried to do too many things at once and ended up failing at all of them.

First if you're going to have limited episodes...then pick a genre...
Second have watch this in both sub and dub so maybe there was issues with translation...but if not...hire better writers cause the dialogue really sucked...it seemed like they just threw words on the wall and used whatever stuck...

The only characters they did properly was Keith and Gilbert in fact I think that the series would have been 200k times better if it was just about the 2 of them....but then again maybe it would end up being too much like Monster...who knows...

What I do know is that the quality of anime have been on the decline for a few years now and its gotten so bad that people have started seeing quality in mediocrity...smh

It must have been truly a horror for you to break the silence and come out on the forums. But the thing is, your implications are wrong. Both storylines, Keith and Gilbert, Koku and Yuna, are part of one compelling story, having their own philosophy and concepts. I can understand why Koku and Yuna's storyline was to be despised by many, even though their anger is misguided. But there was nothing wrong with it to not make it a part of larger plot, which is set and ended by Gilbert. The supernatural part of the series provide questions, origin of which is philosophical, and I am surprised no one did say "Oh look the DNA part is something like Assassin's Creed". While the Keith and Gilbert philosophy is "closer" to us, as in is found in our reality, the Koku and Yuna one is surrounding our species as a whole. Without Koku and Yuna, the series would not have been what it is. It would lose the existential dimension and become a mere rivalry between insanity and genius of human being. Which is great, but together they create something even greater. This series is the closest to achieving the rank Masterpiece (while not being a complete masterpiece YET because there is still another season, presumably) I have seen in the course of several years. Why is that, you might refuse to ask? Because it strives to be what True Art should.


Wow you taking my opinion hella personal like I piss in your Kool aid or something...🙄

I get it you like the series and think it's close to being a masterpiece...I mean that's like your opinion...as its mine that you're clearly out of your mind...

The sci-fi aspect in my opinion was completely pointless and didn't really add anything to the series...now don't get me wrong it was a fresh and unique twist...it just didn't have good enough writing with so few episodes to have a lasting impact...who knows maybe the second season will do the Kuko and Yuna segment the justice you seem to think it deserve...

Out of curiosity do you also think A.I.C.O was good as well 😕
Mar 31, 2018 12:33 AM
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Gungrave223 said:
Daniel_Naumov said:

All did, well, except for the first one? It does warrant some discussion whether the first "Reggie" (at park hunting female) is actually a Reggie or not, or whether he was defeated using the blue steel (which is a requirement for their DNA to fall apart), but otherwise all other Reggies defeated using excessive blue steel did fall apart into sand. If you think otherwise, please provide more precise examples so that I may dispel your confusion.

It must have been truly a horror for you to break the silence and come out on the forums. But the thing is, your implications are wrong. Both storylines, Keith and Gilbert, Koku and Yuna, are part of one compelling story, having their own philosophy and concepts. I can understand why Koku and Yuna's storyline was to be despised by many, even though their anger is misguided. But there was nothing wrong with it to not make it a part of larger plot, which is set and ended by Gilbert. The supernatural part of the series provide questions, origin of which is philosophical, and I am surprised no one did say "Oh look the DNA part is something like Assassin's Creed". While the Keith and Gilbert philosophy is "closer" to us, as in is found in our reality, the Koku and Yuna one is surrounding our species as a whole. Without Koku and Yuna, the series would not have been what it is. It would lose the existential dimension and become a mere rivalry between insanity and genius of human being. Which is great, but together they create something even greater. This series is the closest to achieving the rank Masterpiece (while not being a complete masterpiece YET because there is still another season, presumably) I have seen in the course of several years. Why is that, you might refuse to ask? Because it strives to be what True Art should.


Wow you taking my opinion hella personal like I piss in your Kool aid or something...🙄

I get it you like the series and think it's close to being a masterpiece...I mean that's like your opinion...as its mine that you're clearly out of your mind...

The sci-fi aspect in my opinion was completely pointless and didn't really add anything to the series...now don't get me wrong it was a fresh and unique twist...it just didn't have good enough writing with so few episodes to have a lasting impact...who knows maybe the second season will do the Kuko and Yuna segment the justice you seem to think it deserve...

Out of curiosity do you also think A.I.C.O was good as well 😕

Yes I do. While not on the same overall quality as this particular series, A.I.C.O. also has some fundamental philosophy behind it. Or, more precisely, directly in it.
What we like or dislike is irrelevant when it comes to art - our preferences are not the criteria to value an Art as it is. Hiding behind opinions works on social science topics, and is somewhat irresponsible.
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Mar 31, 2018 1:39 AM

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Good enough show, really liked the Keith-Gilbert chaos. But it comes with its shit too. Yuna becoming useless, all antagonists wanting to die by the hands of respective MCs and the most its happy-ending, all resolved conflicts and consequences. Half the initial plot points are pushed-aside and RIS have also MC armour.

The story also have good humour and nice and quick action scenes. 8/10
Mar 31, 2018 4:52 PM

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Daniel_Naumov said:
... Oh boy maybe I should simply copy it...

Vindicater said:
At the end of this series I have the same question as many other people.

Why the scifi element.

The the Keith Flick section was awesome.

The black King section lacked any sort of depth.


Your inability to fathom the implications and philosophy of the "Black King" storyline does not anyhow impair its philosophical value. Aside the eternal and obvious "Gods/Creators of ours" narrative which does not get explored yet in this series, there are several other less known and explored matters: Keith Flick was technically a father to the Demigods, because without his involvement the Scripture would remain unsolved, disallowing Koku and Yuna (who are somewhat the only Demigods amongst the created 13) to be reborn again. While it is unknown if they actually are Demigods or merely more advanced species with deeper ties and bonds inbetween themselves, the "Human create its Gods" was very well scratched. Then there is the "Gods amongst us", as the living demigod would actually question the legitimacy of most, if not all, monarchies which are believed (or were believed) to draw their legitimacy from the Gods who bestow them with a right to fairly rule the subjects on Earth. Would also blow up some religions, as most would try to claim it is their own Demigod that stepped on the Earth. And then there was Eternal Loyalty of the subjects of the Black King, and a bond of "True Love" between Koku, Yuna and Izanami (The Black King and two Maidens). All of which warrants just some thought process not only to fathom, but to reflect upon it.
I understand the lack of understanding of the philosophy comes from inexperience of the viewer. It will come around one day. Until then I guess I have to bear with you all...


Wow, way to be a condescending asshole.

I understand the premise of the black king just fine. It was simply jammed into the story with no real instigation and thus ended with no real conclusion.

The story to me seemed like it was meant to be a murder mystery but the writers felt like they needed something extra to pull in some different viewers.

The anime overall had two distinct stories that they tried to meld together and it did not work.
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Meh I'm still confused. Still don't know what this is all about.

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Apr 2, 2018 9:35 AM
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Daniel_Naumov said:
Gungrave223 said:


Wow you taking my opinion hella personal like I piss in your Kool aid or something...🙄

I get it you like the series and think it's close to being a masterpiece...I mean that's like your opinion...as its mine that you're clearly out of your mind...

The sci-fi aspect in my opinion was completely pointless and didn't really add anything to the series...now don't get me wrong it was a fresh and unique twist...it just didn't have good enough writing with so few episodes to have a lasting impact...who knows maybe the second season will do the Kuko and Yuna segment the justice you seem to think it deserve...

Out of curiosity do you also think A.I.C.O was good as well 😕

Yes I do. While not on the same overall quality as this particular series, A.I.C.O. also has some fundamental philosophy behind it. Or, more precisely, directly in it.
What we like or dislike is irrelevant when it comes to art - our preferences are not the criteria to value an Art as it is. Hiding behind opinions works on social science topics, and is somewhat irresponsible.


I don't think you understand how art works...🤔... The value of art surmount to what a person is willing to pay for it....in order words it's quality is base on the opinion of the buyer...

Also no it wasn't AICO was definitely worst that B....Form bad animation..bad writing...and uninteresting character... AICO has no redeemable qualities....

Honestly the only sensible thing you've said is the fact that opinions are opinions and it's natural and ok to have differentiating opinions on all subject matters...but to say that this was close to masterpiece status...well either you're being paid to say that or you're just straight cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs...🙄
Apr 5, 2018 12:09 AM

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The episode was fantastic. I liked Koku's fight against the other King. Frankly I think there is a second season. I think that the track after the end song will be because of the second season because Kirisame is apparently alive. Is Keith's father also alive? I have a lot of questions now in my mind and can not be answered only in the second season when you will get a second season I can not wait And there is also the possibility that there will not be a second season and this is somewhat unfortunate T_T
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Apr 6, 2018 12:54 PM

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that extra at the end hinted a second second, does it really need one tho? I'm satisfied with this first season. I didn't think it was necessary but I guess I'm down for a second season.

Good music, quality remained consistent, ending song is catchy. Overall good show 7/10


Apr 6, 2018 3:37 PM

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So the bad guy just wanted Keith to commit murder... which he did not do. He acted in defense of others when he took the shot.

6/10 (above average)
It was fairly unique and was pretty intense at times. But, I can't say I care about any of the characters after 12 episodes. The anime failed to make me care about what was going on. The "big" conspiracy was "meh". It was a fun ride, but who cares.

Best girl: Yuna (dark version, before memories returned)
Apr 10, 2018 8:30 PM

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I like the parallel story telling and the direction taken with it, but was disappointed overall on how relatively safe the writing played it with the "hero" characters despite flirting extremely close with death on quite a number of occasions.


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Apr 11, 2018 11:37 PM

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This was truly entertaining but I found the second half of Koku's story kind of underwhelming compared to the first half which lowered the score for me from a 9 to 8. This seemed to be a mix of Psycho Pass and Zankyou no Terror.

But nevertheless I enjoyed the hell out of it and looking forward to a possible sequel.
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Apr 18, 2018 8:12 PM

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whew. who knew the random anime i picked on netflix would become my 2018 favorite

i wouldn't call it perfect, i especially had issues with yuna and koku, but my enjoyment was 5/5

i like the ending, i don't think it has to get a sequel but if they make a sequel, like they foreshadowed on after credits scene, i'll definitely watch it
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Apr 23, 2018 2:06 PM

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When I finished watching, I wanted more from the investigative part of Keith and the team, wanted to know more about the reign of that country.

The anime in itself is a marvel but it takes time to get Keith's moves and a little more to understand Koku's past.

For me, a humble fan of animation, would be a 7.7, would yield another season if it focused on the researchers, something that was a strong part of the anime.
May 7, 2018 1:00 PM

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That scene with Keith and Gilbert, just before Lily arrived was the stupdest scene of the whole anime. When both had their weapons aimed at each other, we saw that they stood just a bit over an arms length away, just enough so that the weapon fits etc. Then, Keith lowered his weapon again etc.

They heard Lily in the hallway or so, several seconds before Gilbert began aiming at the entrance.

Gilbert was shot in the head, right in the middle, full fontral. That means Keith had time to raise his weapon again and aim perfectly. Not a sloppy shot in an angle from below and hitting him in the temple or so.

We heard the shots a second or more before Lily actually arrived, and Gilbert was already fallling.

To sum it up: Keith had 5-10 seconds to act. He was standing at arms length from Gilbert, with his weapon aimed at the ground. Possible moves: Shoot Gilbert in the foot/leg. Shoot him in the chest. Ram him. Catch his arm. Stand in front of the weapon (the usual idiot move people do, like when they jump in front of the gun instead of just shoving people away or dragging them down etc. And not all that do that are actually prepared to die, so it's like it "better me than them").

But no, he causally aims his weapon at Gilberts head and shoots him. The surest way to kill him, despite not wanting to kill him, and the move that has most chances to take too long to execute before Gilbert can shoot Lily. The only possible upside is that it was also the surest move to prevent him killing Lily, if completed in time.

Somehow, when people use bullet proofs vest, shooting them in the head is not possible. But when you have to quickly incapacitate them, shooting them in the head is the *only* option.

At least they don't go droning on about it, like most movies etc. tend to do.

Otherwise i had no real issues with B. Nice animation, Koku actually remembered having another blade (though a tad bit late, oh well).
May 8, 2018 11:57 AM

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It was better than I expected. If I had to nitpick, I'd frown at utilization of the female characters: Yuna was basically utterly useless, a one-dimensional character whose only role was to be a love interest and designated damsel in distress; Lily is incomparably more developed, which only makes her stupid mistake of rushing in without even a weapon in the finale like a brainless fool instead of an experienced operative she's supposed to be who knows better all the more jarring.

Also, I'm kinda disappointed neither Kokuu nor Yuna died. After such a battle, Yuna's 'death' scene and all that jazz about the Jetblack stopping Kokuu's regeneration ability it was plain anticlimactic and felt like a cheap way out just for the sake of no one on the good side dying and a happy ending at the expense of story-telling.

We've got a hook for season 2 with asspullish 'Koku's most loyal friend is somehow alive and now evil', but I doubt there will be a season 2.'
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May 9, 2018 10:49 AM

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The villains are useless as fuck. The tattooed gang, I mean. What was the name again? No, actually almost the entire reviving gods and reggies storyline is lackluster. I liked the premise but the plot didn't deliver. It was all just a knight saving his damsel in distress.

Gilbert was pretty cool, but who wouldn't have thought he was a villain, though? I thought the twist would be that he was a good guy all along despite his appearance, but he actually played a straight Lysanderoth.

I love Lily. Fight me. Oh, except the You Look Like Her cliche.

I kinda liked the dynamics of the investigation team. Just drop the reviving gods storyline and focus on them, maybe? Spin-off, reboot, whatever?

Overall, enjoyable enough that I gave it a 6. Up to 7 because I can't get the ED out of my head.





Oh, I suddenly get a ridiculous theory about Koku and Yuna.
Why 13 and 4?
BIIII.
B-four.
Before.

Might be referring to their being the progenitors of humanity. I always knew I'm as smart as Keith.
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Ah. The ending.

The final battle. I dislike Koku's battle. It's just him being beaten, get up and killing Minatsuki with Izanami's legs. The worst part is that the plot device, i mean, Yuna is still alive for no reason. FAIL.

Gilbert wanted Keith to kill him, so he 'wins'. I like his philosophy, yet it could be build up his revelation much better.

Overall, was a weird show. To be fair, the Koku's story was unnecessarily complex to the point that it didn't matter much in the end. It could be more simple and the ending will be the same. The motivations of Market Maker feels so undeveloped and many of them are just plot devices. In the end, the angsty teenager and his girlfriend just have some seconds in screen. LMAO.

The police part was more interesting despite it have some flaws in the revelation of the main villain and some convenient scenes. At least, the RIS have charm. Keith and Lily were the only decent characters in the entire show. I don't find that Keith solving everything so easily a problem. I mean, that why he is a genius.

It's hard to rate this anime. It have a lot of potential but the Koku's part is too bad and the police plot is better yet it's still have problems. The two stories could be connected much better, it feels strange. Anyway, the animation was good and saved this anime from a 5/10. 3/5 for the episode. 6/10 for the anime pd: the last scene, second season? Mmm, i think that Keith's plot is done but Koku not so much...
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What an incredible borefest this was.
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May 18, 2018 10:06 AM

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Honestly found this show to be a disappointment. I can see the moments of brilliance with this work, but it lacked balance for themes. As Opener mentioned there was just a lot of action, and I really noticed it heavily in this episode (which I couldn't care as much for). I found the characters to be incredibly unappealing for me; I just couldn't get into them.

[5/10 for me but that is heavily weighted on my personal enjoyment - the show simply just wasn't for me]
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This was certainly not what I expected haha, but that's a good and bad thing. This to me was like a cross between X-men, Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, and Law & Order.

The show had a lot of different plot lines going on and the lore was a lot more dense than I thought. I understood the jest of it like the cloning of the old god race, Koku and Luna being the next black king and queen, and Gilbert, Keith, and Erika's relationship.

What kind of left me wondering though is how did Gilbert gain so much influence, he just seemed like a simple researcher. And I'm guessing Keith's dad told Keith everything before he died because he knew like everything about the secret organization (even where the ship in the sky was). Also it seemed like it was implied that his sister loved him in a romantic way which Gilbert couldn't allow. It also seemed like the crown knew of the god experiments, but turned a blind eye to some things? So basically the crown was in on all this because they knew of the secret organization, but maybe they didn't realize how much influence they had? That wasn't clear to me, it seems like the crown is corrupt too and needs to be brought down. Also apparently they revealed everything about the conspiracy so that's good, but now that it's public, where does it go from here? And who was that guy at the end again? Was he one of the kids that took down Keith's dad?

I still have a lot of questions, but who knows if we'll get a second season.

As for the show itself, I thought it was decent, but not anything spectacular. The beginning I thought jumped to fast into the action and I was kind of left wondering what the hell was going on. But between like episode 4-9, I thought was pretty strong with all the mysteries being unfolded, and having Keith and Koku working together. However the ending I felt wasn't that strong. I felt kind of unsatisfied. I hated listening to Gilbert and Keith's final discussion for so fucking long, that was too much. It just felt too dragged out. And why would Keith let him get so close and why wouldn't he just shut him in his knee cap, and then rough him up a bit and take his gun. Hell even when Lily was running up, he could have tackled him and stopped him and wait for Lily to help, why the head shot. I felt like Keith did not handle the situation very well, he could have stopped Gilbert easily without killing him, I found that situation annoying and I didn't like that Keith was just letting Gilbert control that situation and let him get his stupid wish of being killed by him. If Gilbert had a great plan where he forced Keith into a tight spot where he had no choice, but all Gilbert did was wait around, get close to Keith, put his gun up to him, and then pointed it at the entrance and was like "now you gotta choose". All Keith had to do was manhandle him and problem solved. AAAAHHH that bugged me, it also didn't help that I didn't like Gilbert at all, even as a villain.

I also didn't really care for Minatsuki or any of the villains, they were all boring to me. The final battle was ok, and I'm glad that Koku ended up winning. Also I would have liked to actually have seen Koku and Luna up close in the end and not a far away shot of them, that kind of annoyed me too.

Anyways, the mysteries of the show was interesting and Keith was a good lead. The other characters were eh, but at least Koku produced some great fight scenes. The animation in this anime was top tier, each episode was just so fluid and nice, and the character designs were great as well. Lily's ass alone raises the score of this show by one point. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

So overall, the series definitely had its faults and bugged me, but it was entertaining and I enjoyed watching it for the most part. I feel like this show could have been a lot more than it was though. 7/10

I wonder if we'll get a sequel....
May 21, 2018 3:22 AM

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I don't get most of the plot and strangely enough I enjoyed this series. Weird. ED song is great though.
Oct 22, 2018 1:19 PM
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The anime is alright. 6/10

It had nice action scenes, the first half was confusing, and koku could’ve been better. So what happened to him and lily afterwards?
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Hmm, this show was quite a spectacular blend of different ideas and concepts. It reminded me of the western crime dramas I used to frequently watch many years ago, all the while including supernatural & sci-fi concepts that are reminiscent of other anime such as Terror in Resonance & Psycho-Pass. The final confrontation between Keith & Gil really felt like a condensed Red John arc from The Mentalist. Keith's crime solving methods also made me think of Numb3rs. It's very difficult to articulate, but in a way this felt like a western crime series that just happened to take on anime form.

I'd say my only problem with B: The Beginning is that I wanted to like it more than I actually did. While it was filled with interesting concepts & twists, it felt somewhat shallow and almost seemed like it would back off from delving into those things further to focus on its edgy aesthetic. I wanted to get more invested into this, but it felt like an iceberg where only the surface could ever be scratched. Hopefully with that season 2 teaser, more of its potential can be realized and I can grow to enjoy it even more.

7/10

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Pushing this up from a 7 to an 8. Thought about it a bit and re-watched some scenes. Ended up enjoying it more than I initially thought. I especially think the dynamic between Keith & Gil was the strongest reason for my change of heart.
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The anime is alright. 6/10

It had nice action scenes, the first half was confusing, and koku could’ve been better. So what happened to him and lily afterwards?

Nothing yet. Lily and Keith became more or less a couple, and Koku got back to Yuna, living happily with her. They go about their daily lives in Cremona.
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My only problem with the last episode is that scene, where Gilbert aims at the door. There were literally so many other solutions Keith could choose from, instead of shooting him in the damn head. That was pretty sloppy writing.
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shame really, i liked detective story, would be great anime if it was just beardo chasing after Kira Yoshikage's VA but they had to add clown super shonens vs winged guy nonsense
Aug 22, 2019 12:33 PM

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Eh overall I enjoyed the show, despite the plot being messy at times. Keith, Gilbert & the RIS gang we're really fun to watch. Can't really say the same about Koku & the circus though. Honestly would've enjoyed the show more if it was just a straight up murder mystery without any supernatural elements.

Like legit give me a show following the RIS I'd totally watch that shit. Too bad the teased sequel seems to be focusing on the reggies again.
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Eh overall I enjoyed the show, despite the plot being messy at times. Keith, Gilbert & the RIS gang we're really fun to watch. Can't really say the same about Koku & the circus though. Honestly would've enjoyed the show more if it was just a straight up murder mystery without any supernatural elements.

Like legit give me a show following the RIS I'd totally watch that shit. Too bad the teased sequel seems to be focusing on the reggies again.

Murder-mystery and supernatural genetics story are two different entities and simply intertwine together inside B:The Beginning. Murder mystery is the main one, of course. An ingenious way to tell a story.
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This episode was a total blast of madness. I felt really bad for Yuna she was in so pain the whole time but I'm happy that she is alive and koku got her back. There love chemistry is something I really like to watch in anime.

And as for kaith and Lily I think the have a chemistry. Im sure later on they would be a couple.

And for the series there are couples of odds the makes this 7.9/10 for me.
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Mirai said:
Eh overall I enjoyed the show, despite the plot being messy at times. Keith, Gilbert & the RIS gang we're really fun to watch. Can't really say the same about Koku & the circus though. Honestly would've enjoyed the show more if it was just a straight up murder mystery without any supernatural elements.

Like legit give me a show following the RIS I'd totally watch that shit. Too bad the teased sequel seems to be focusing on the reggies again.

Murder-mystery and supernatural genetics story are two different entities and simply intertwine together inside B:The Beginning. Murder mystery is the main one, of course. An ingenious way to tell a story.
yup it would have been more fun if there wasn't any supernatural phenomenon in this anime. Watching this kinda reminds me of anime Monster.
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Pretty solid 8/10 anime overall
Apr 22, 2020 4:35 PM

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Watched it at last, I must say I liked how it was written with 2 plots (the first one supernatural and the 2nd one thriller, 2 genres that I like) combined in one.

I had to rewatched seriously some scenes to understand it, although Gilbert/Keith sort of explain everything in the end (reminds me of that I did for Shinsekai Yori).

I tried several times to count the 13 children but am not really sure.
Koku (13) - Yuna (4)
Koku's aid while still a kid : Kirisame + one orange-hair color kid that dies with Kirisame. Seems there are 3 others (flashback from ep7).
Maybe we can count Minatsuki, Kukuri and Takeru amongst them, that makes 10.
But also Kamui and Queen, and the 'false' minatsuki ?

The ending song is also a plus, like a lot here I didn't skip a single one.

A solid 8/10 for me.


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This was quite the mess. But still entertaining to some extent. Gets a 6/10 from me for Lily being cute, otherwise it would've been a 5/10.

Won't watch season 2.
May 29, 2020 6:42 PM

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Stupid and boring. 4/10
Jul 6, 2020 1:27 PM
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I have to admit the realisation was good in terms of art, ost etc but it was too much boring for me, I guess it's just not my cup of tea.
4/10
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Man I hated this shit
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Does anyone know if koku gets his eye back after he kills minatsuki
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This actually ended up being quite enjoyable tbh. Had a bit of a slow start, slow but still kinda interesting, but really started to pick up towards the end.

Absolutely loved the Gilbert vs Keith rivalry they had going on, both were great characters. Shame that Gilbert did end up being the villain though, he was already sus from the beginning but oh well, still nailed the villain role perfectly. Keith as well was a dope protag, much better than Koku was lol (though he wasn't that bad tbh).

Story wise, I liked the murder mystery part better than the gods sci-fi part. It felt like the latter was there to incorporate action scenes while the former was there to have the actual detective aspect of it. Though, I did enjoy how both of them ended, the Keith story ended with a won the battle lost the war part, as Gilbert managed to strike directly at Keith's soul into making him shoot him, and the Koku story ended with a grand fight where it honestly did seem like the bad guy was gonna win for some time

Side characters were pretty fun too


incest route denied/10
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