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Jul 27, 2015 12:03 PM
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I think that they're all real braves. Remember how that the goddesses power was divided into 6 petals? What if it got divided into 7 because Flamie killed all the strong braves so since there are only weak braves left, the power got divided further to compensate?
Jul 27, 2015 12:38 PM
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Ah... this is one of the best anime I've seen in a while. At the leadt, it's been really well made. Story, action, designs, world, etc all these have been damn good so far. Animation for the action may not b the best, but I'd rather have not so great animation wuth a great story like this.

Honestly, whoever wrote this is brilliant. Really difficult to tell who's the fakr.

though,,, princess sudden psycho behaviour IS abit suspicious
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Jul 27, 2015 2:02 PM

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This anime finally got at least a little bit interesting. We'll see if the wait was worth it or not. I really hope the author has the balls to actually make someone the bad guy rather than going the "ALL of them are braves because reasons" route. Although, at this pace, I doubt we'll get to the conclusion of this in this season.
Jul 27, 2015 2:06 PM
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If we assume that the fake one knows they're fake, so far I say it's either Nashetania or Chamo. Nashetania because of her usual self and in this episode she also looked like she tries to hard to show everyone how much she cares about mission with all that going crazy in the temple. The fact that her character song is "Dance in the Fake" doesn't help, either. Chamo because she appeared right after Nashetania, Fremy and Goldof saw that Adlet is already there with activated barrier. That could be her who activated it and she just hid herself somehow in the temple after activating it and waited till Rokkas see enough to suspect Adlet of activating it (also I think that's why they'll suspect Adlet in the next episode like the trailers told us in the beginning).
If we assume that the fake one doesn't know they're fake, then it can be pretty much anyone, but Adlet is on the top on my list because of that weird dream in episode 1.
So far I don't even suspect anyone else, it couldn't be Hans who activated the temple since from what Mora was saying it seems they were hanging around for some time yet Mora didn't see Chamo for a long time. I don't suspect him also because he keeps trying to convince everyone there sure is a fake one among them instead of trying to defend "there are 7 this time" theory (or just being quiet). That is a stupid move if he was a fake no matter how you look at it. Sure, you can say he does this to make everyone not trust each other, but that would make them aware and wary and why would the fake one want that? Isn't it easier to just keep pretending it's 7 this time and then kill everyone when they're not expecting it? I don't suspect Mora for the same reason.
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apokaliz500 said:
If we assume that the fake one knows they're fake, so far I say it's either Nashetania or Chamo. Nashetania because of her usual self and in this episode she also looked like she tries to hard to show everyone how much she cares about mission with all that going crazy in the temple. The fact that her character song is "Dance in the Fake" doesn't help, either. Chamo because she appeared right after Nashetania, Fremy and Goldof saw that Adlet is already there with activated barrier. That could be her who activated it and she just hid herself somehow in the temple after activating it and waited till Rokkas see enough to suspect Adlet of activating it (also I think that's why they'll suspect Adlet in the next episode like the trailers told us in the beginning).
If we assume that the fake one doesn't know they're fake, then it can be pretty much anyone, but Adlet is on the top on my list because of that weird dream in episode 1.
So far I don't even suspect anyone else, it couldn't be Hans who activated the temple since from what Mora was saying it seems they were hanging around for some time yet Mora didn't see Chamo for a long time. I don't suspect him also because he keeps trying to convince everyone there sure is a fake one among them instead of trying to defend "there are 7 this time" theory (or just being quiet). That is a stupid move if he was a fake no matter how you look at it. Sure, you can say he does this to make everyone not trust each other, but that would make them aware and wary and why would the fake one want that? Isn't it easier to just keep pretending it's 7 this time and then kill everyone when they're not expecting it? I don't suspect Mora for the same reason.


Humpty is obviously the red herring here, but he could also be the fake... Assuming the writer assumed we will think that he is a red herring. My vote, however, goes to Neshetania, purely because she is sketchy as hell. Ever since that chat she had with Adlet in ep 1, and then when she suddenly attacked him in ep 2(i think) and now she freaks out and destroys that tablet? Come on that has to be a give away right?

Also their culture is pretty similar to mayans, who had tattoos, didn't they?
Jul 27, 2015 4:39 PM

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well, shit gets real!!.... Nice episode

Im inlove with this OP now
Jul 28, 2015 1:23 AM

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HaXXspetten said:

Also just me or did this episode have some pretty serious derp moments in terms of animation? Like wtf is this, it's like an out-of-focus photography or something


It wasn't just you, I'm used to poor quality when the characters are far away, but this week it was the opposite.
Jul 28, 2015 1:25 AM

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They probably didn't have time due to making the new ending, but yeah some scenes were bad. Lets hope they fixe that for the BD version. The new character's face were well done however, they really took the time to do it properly.
BTW I thought that that flying fiend that passed right above them was seriously cool looking. Looked like some demon version of a phoenix or something.
Jul 28, 2015 2:58 AM

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Dammit stop making me dizzy!

My bet's on the psycho bunny girl being the fake hero.
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^the problem is with the low framrate here imo. It's just like playing a video game that would require far too much from your computer leading to too low framerate. the result is bad for the eyes. Like I said above, let's hope for a fix in the BR version~
Jul 28, 2015 7:46 AM
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Hmm.. things will be getting more intense from now on. :)

But that sudden drop in animation quality... hopefully it doesn't get worse.
Jul 28, 2015 10:18 AM

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seems fremy killing the candidates for self-defence is not what happened

trust all in the rokka mark then?
that confession of fremy killing the candidates to lead the weaker ones to be choosen seems hard to explain, only thing coming to mind is she was trying to be a single hero like the flower hero

can already feel the tension of goldof over adlet xD
goldof stuttering "I-I'm not concerned.." xD
and seeing adlet and goldof talk, goldof is so huge..

bombers fiends? wow they're getting more advanced
and a talking one too :o

the salt saint continues to get nominated :D

nashetania's anger fit..

and finally all 7 got introduced, now that "trust in the mark" is less valid as reason...
now fremy will have to explain more clearly what she wanted to achieve by killing the candidates
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There were some scenes where the faces looked weird but overall this might be my favourite episode yet of this anime. The new characters look great as well and the CGI looks fine tbh which is something I'm grateful for.

A definite 5/5 and I can't wait to see what they'll do next time.
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I think the bunny girl is the fake one bc shes way too suspicious this episode or goldov might be the fake l i mean if hes a brave he would join the bunny girl and adlet at the start when they left the castle, anyway best episode 5/5 btw hans is my favourite of them all
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Jul 29, 2015 2:09 AM

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This anime finally got at least a little bit interesting. We'll see if the wait was worth it or not. I really hope the author has the balls to actually make someone the bad guy rather than going the "ALL of them are braves because reasons" route. Although, at this pace, I doubt we'll get to the conclusion of this in this season.

Oh, the conclusion will happen this season. That's for sure.
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Jul 29, 2015 3:54 AM

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This is the kind of action anime which needs to be appreciated more. Seriously, it's just so good.
Jul 29, 2015 12:12 PM

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the suspense would have been hyper if the opening didn't show that all 7 of them were legit. but who knows maybe its an evolving opening.
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Jul 29, 2015 12:41 PM

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It was a good episode. Can't stop loving Fremy. Nashetania is a pain in the ass but omg she's beautiful

If Evangelion were Rokka no Yuusha the seventh would be Shinji.
Jul 30, 2015 1:49 AM
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I'm pretty sure that Nashetania is the fake, but I think she doesn't even know that she is... and thinks she is a real brave.

That freak out really set off my theory crafting, plus while watching the opening (I do it WAY too much, its a really good opening though!) I have seen little details that might hint that she is the fake, I mean the part where she just wakes up in a field alone with cloudy/possible stormy weather... kinda weird.

Idk just my thoughts, I go on and on about anime that I really like.
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Jul 30, 2015 3:11 AM

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Can't stop loving Fremy.


Fremy is love.
Fremy is life.
Jul 30, 2015 3:14 AM

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Chamot pisses me off. They better cut off 1 female because fuck having 2 guys and 4 females in a group.

Animation sucked major ass in some places this episode.
Jul 30, 2015 3:22 AM

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HandsomeMan said:
Chamot pisses me off. They better cut off 1 female because fuck having 2 guys and 4 females in a group.


The cat guy isn't counting as a male...?
Jul 30, 2015 3:31 AM

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Tylaen said:
HandsomeMan said:
Chamot pisses me off. They better cut off 1 female because fuck having 2 guys and 4 females in a group.


The cat guy isn't counting as a male...?

Well since one of them is a fake, I'm guessing they're going to cut out one character? I hope it's one of the females, because 3 guys and 3 girls in a group is a better balance and doesn't look like a harem party.
Jul 30, 2015 3:45 AM

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Because 3 guys and 3 girls in a group is a better balance and doesn't look like a harem party.


A strange priority, given that this isn't a Harem series and it looking like it seems like a very minor concern overall.
Jul 30, 2015 3:51 AM

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Well according to the first episode 300 years ago there was 5 women and 1 guy in the party. Story doesn't say if it ended in a harem, but I've got the feeling it didn't.
And yeah, that's not a priority since it's not a harem story anyway.
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Chamot pisses me off. They better cut off 1 female because fuck having 2 guys and 4 females in a group.

Animation sucked major ass in some places this episode.


Well, if we not discount a fake, 3 guys 4 females is still more balanced than a LOT of anime.

Somehow I doubt romance will play any part in this story that much beyond Goldof's yandere vibes towards people.
Jul 30, 2015 5:03 AM

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HandsomeMan said:
Chamot pisses me off. They better cut off 1 female because fuck having 2 guys and 4 females in a group.

Animation sucked major ass in some places this episode.


Well, if we not discount a fake, 3 guys 4 females is still more balanced than a LOT of anime.

Somehow I doubt romance will play any part in this story that much beyond Goldof's yandere vibes towards people.

Hope that is the case.

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Because 3 guys and 3 girls in a group is a better balance and doesn't look like a harem party.


A strange priority, given that this isn't a Harem series and it looking like it seems like a very minor concern overall.

Just a preference, bruv.
Jul 30, 2015 4:33 PM

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If one of them is fake wouldn't the fake die from the poison?
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If one of them is fake wouldn't the fake die from the poison?

unless the fake mark also gives immunity to the poison, since the poison is apparently the demon god's doing it should have ways to be immune to it, same as all the fiends should be naturally immune to the poison

but anyway they can't test that idea until the find a way to turn off the fog barrier

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The fake is the Majin's champion... the Maou~
Jul 31, 2015 3:47 AM

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my guess is the princess is fake brave among em

but idk though, my another guess is all of them are fake, there is no braves from the start, just story tale from generation to generation

haha LOL

and the enemy/evil is just minion !
Well Duh...

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I think the fake one is Adlet. He didn't have any power so most likely he's the fake one.
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I think the fake one is Adlet. He didn't have any power so most likely he's the fake one.

Only women have power because they're saints. Goldof and Hans are male so they don't have power as well.
Jul 31, 2015 5:37 AM

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I really really dont trust Nashetania. Hope she is the fake one. If she is the fake, then Goldof will side with her. Which means Braves will be separated. Fremy/Adoretto vs Bunny/Goldof maybe? Dunno...
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If one of them is fake wouldn't the fake die from the poison?


They should.
But they aren't in the Land of Howling Demons yet. They're trapped in the Illusion Fog Temple.
So no way to prove it.
Jul 31, 2015 7:13 AM

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One scene looked very weird, drop of the budget.
This one was a good episode, I think the fake is Goldof. He is just here to protect the princess.
Jul 31, 2015 8:25 AM

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Yvese said:
If one of them is fake wouldn't the fake die from the poison?


They should.
But they aren't in the Land of Howling Demons yet. They're trapped in the Illusion Fog Temple.
So no way to prove it.
I see the novel is still on-going so unless this goes for an anime original end, it looks like we wont know who it is by the end of the season =/. That's assuming it takes the entire season to actually get out of the temple and reach Howling Demons.

Should be an interesting journey with everyone watching their backs along the way.
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I'm pained to see many people refusing to watch this anime because they think it's another cliche defeat the boss anime, even after I tried explaining it isn't so.


Well they're not handling things very well, so it comes off as a defeat the boss anime. If Flamie's motivation really is to defeat the boss then she wouldn't have been so eager to kill the chosen, she would have at least tried to reconcile as killing them would mean that she wouldn't succeed. Such an obvious lack of coherency doesn't point to a clever anime like you want people to believe, but a simple nonsensical little boy beat 'em up.
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I'm pained to see many people refusing to watch this anime because they think it's another cliche defeat the boss anime, even after I tried explaining it isn't so.


Well they're not handling things very well, so it comes off as a defeat the boss anime. If Flamie's motivation really is to defeat the boss then she wouldn't have been so eager to kill the chosen, she would have at least tried to reconcile as killing them would mean that she wouldn't succeed. Such an obvious lack of coherency doesn't point to a clever anime like you want people to believe, but a simple nonsensical little boy beat 'em up.

That's because some peoples -like you- wrongly interpreted what Fremy and Adlet said. Fremy never said she was killing brave candidate in order to kill the demon god. She never said that. Adlet said "she may have been an enemy before for some reason, but right now, her goal is to defeat the demon god, which makes her our ally". And Fremy approved the fact that right now she was wishing for the demon god's defeat just like any rokka.

None of them stupidly said that she was going around defeating rokka candidate with the idea of defeating the demon god in mind. YOU assumed this. And YOU should pay a closer attention to the dialogue in episode 4. There is no lack of coherency, there's a lack of attention from some of anime watchers.

Far worse than the point you're talking about here (that will be talked again soon in the anime anyway), I've seen dozen of comments saying "pff, that's stupid, they just need to go to the enemy's territory and the fake will die from poison".
Like, where were those peoples looking at in episode 3 and 4 when they explained that no one can enter the fog when the barrier is activated and no one can leave it either?
Those same peoples are either complaining about Nashetania's behaviour being stupid or that she's suspicious because she panicked. Well, there was enough reason to panic. Nashetania's behaviour has been very logical so far and in character.
It's those kind of anime watchers that afterwards complain that things don't make sense and are stupid. How about first paying attention.
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None of them stupidly said that she was going around defeating rokka candidate with the idea of defeating the demon god in mind. YOU assumed this.


Dude, my post is RIGHT THERE, nowhere do I say this. How do you think you can follow anything when you can't even read a post. You pulled the same nonsense with other anime too. You are not capable of following anything, you are just making up all sorts of nonsense in your head and then attacking people when they don't agree with your imagination.

Please put me on ignore so you won't ever respond to my posts ever again, you aren't capable of holding a conversation with anyone.
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If Flamie's motivation really is to defeat the boss then she wouldn't have been so eager to kill the chosen, she would have at least tried to reconcile as killing them would mean that she wouldn't succeed. Such an obvious lack of coherency doesn't point to a clever anime like you want people to believe, but a simple nonsensical little boy beat 'em up.

That's pretty clear. There is no lack of coherency, you say there is. You are doubting Fremy's motivation to kill the demon god because she killed the brave candidate, which is proof that you didn't follow properly the dialogue in episode 4. And I don't see the need to put you in ignore list. You seem the one bothered by my presence, not the contrary.
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Not paying attention to the dialogue is a Common thing if you Walk in expecting an action series.

Sad day.
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Sokah said:


Well they're not handling things very well, so it comes off as a defeat the boss anime. If Flamie's motivation really is to defeat the boss then she wouldn't have been so eager to kill the chosen, she would have at least tried to reconcile as killing them would mean that she wouldn't succeed. Such an obvious lack of coherency doesn't point to a clever anime like you want people to believe, but a simple nonsensical little boy beat 'em up.

That's because some peoples -like you- wrongly interpreted what Fremy and Adlet said. Fremy never said she was killing brave candidate in order to kill the demon god. She never said that. Adlet said "she may have been an enemy before for some reason, but right now, her goal is to defeat the demon god, which makes her our ally". And Fremy approved the fact that right now she was wishing for the demon god's defeat just like any rokka.

None of them stupidly said that she was going around defeating rokka candidate with the idea of defeating the demon god in mind. YOU assumed this. And YOU should pay a closer attention to the dialogue in episode 4. There is no lack of coherency, there's a lack of attention from some of anime watchers.

Far worse than the point you're talking about here (that will be talked again soon in the anime anyway), I've seen dozen of comments saying "pff, that's stupid, they just need to go to the enemy's territory and the fake will die from poison".
Like, where were those peoples looking at in episode 3 and 4 when they explained that no one can enter the fog when the barrier is activated and no one can leave it either?
Those same peoples are either complaining about Nashetania's behaviour being stupid or that she's suspicious because she panicked. Well, there was enough reason to panic. Nashetania's behaviour has been very logical so far and in character.
It's those kind of anime watchers that afterwards complain that things don't make sense and are stupid. How about first paying attention.


Its a common problem with adaptations and also most likely why they spoiled 7 braves right in description(to make it clear it is not just another action show)

Hell I have seen people going around and calling this a shounen. I understand when that misinterpretation happens due to misrepresentation(certain adaptations this year), but Rokka so far made it very clear that it is more about characters than fighting.

I guess it is too hard to separate stereotypical expectations for an average mal reader. Especially since a lot of people on MAL community have attention span of a goldfish.
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Hell I have seen people going around and calling this a shounen.

I guess it is too hard to separate stereotypical expectations for an average mal reader.

nah, it's just too hard to read the synopsis before watching a show
or maybe some confuse ignorance with keeping low expectations
anyway, talking about users is boring, talking about the show is more interesting

doubt the sun saint vanished for no reason, since fremy didn't try to kill her, that's going to come back later
wonder if there is some saint run sect doing shady things in the background and the sun saint is part of that


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If Flamie's motivation really is to defeat the boss then she wouldn't have been so eager to kill the chosen, she would have at least tried to reconcile as killing them would mean that she wouldn't succeed.

she didn't really try to kill the chosens to be rokkas, she was wary of them cause she knew what she did would make her very suspicious
if she did really try to kill them she would have run after them and not ran away like she tried to do before adlet forced her to follow him

about not succeeding, she was apparently convinced to be able to do it alone, for some reason she didn't explain yet

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I see a lot of people calling Adlet the fake, but didn't we see the mark appear on his hand on the first episode, how can he be the fake if he didn't put the mark on himself?
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Damn the artwork went completely to shit this time.

Well to be honest after 4 episodes the most uninteresting thing about this show for me is the characters. I really haven't found a single one of them as enjoyable. Maybe one of the new guys in this episode could end up being better.
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I see a lot of people calling Adlet the fake, but didn't we see the mark appear on his hand on the first episode, how can he be the fake if he didn't put the mark on himself?


Because we never saw how others got the mark so we do not know whether the way Adlet got it is legit or not.
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Mora Chester, the Saint of Mountains. So many jokes to be made there...
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Meh, first ED was much better.

Btw because of the ending animation, it is pretty obvious who is fake. Sad but true :(
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