| I didn't even know about these movies until I saw this first place, so I'll definitely see it, but only when all 7 are subbed. |
Uminekko said: You're straying off the original argument which was that "Sequels have higher rating" and the one I commented on. The issue you're stating here is "Series with two season or more are occupying the top 200 list". This is something i also agree with. KnK counts in the sequel issue because "sequel drop" refers to any show that evades legit criticism and medium scores by way of nonfans (who don't give 10s) dropping part one and part two being listed as a separate show (which the nonfans don't add). The problem here is with the artificial rating advantages it gains if all 7 "OVAs" are considered as separate movies. "Sequel" on the MAL list is a separate list entry for shows in the same franchise, as I understand. |
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| I'm tempted to watch this series now just to see if there's anything to this hype, but I'd rate it as I see fit. Seeing all these people ITT saying they're gonna give it a 10 "just because" before they've even seen it is pretty retarded. Try thinking for yourselves. All this does is encourage an equally ludicrous backlash. |
Scud said: Nayah said: Watch me bump it some more....once my downloading is finished. Yeah, I'm keen to see just how amazing this is. same here. although i'd rather stream it. need to find someplace to stream it first though. |
| 9.09 !! PENETRATE THE HEAVENS I mean err... |
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| It might be the case for CG since i believe it is nothing more than a pumped up piece of shit which taints the first season which was a lot better in almost every aspect. But if you talk about the KnK series, this one definitely the best piece in any aspect compared to the first four. I didn't like the first 4 movies as much as i loved this one and rated them 7,6,5,8 but this one surpassed any of the expectation i'd had and totally and utterly blew me away. Even though i somewhat agree that the 5th movie is rated higher than it would be if it were a stand alone movie but at the same time it couldn't have been without the first movies as they were composed of some unique and important backgrounds of the main characters or events in the first series that directly or subtly affected this one. In a nutshell, let's drop the subject of its being overrated just because of the gradually decreasing number of the audience after the first movie. KnK has progressed a lot and served the best movie of all times, and as a personal opinion of mine i can say that, it deserves the top spot more than all of the anime in the top 10 and definitely a looot more than TTGL. P.S: It is the first movie ive ever given 10 and the seventh in total. |
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Wishy said: Oh my god, 9.10 now. this is what i call witnessing the history! |
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| just watched the first 3 the third time today to get me in the mood again. Ill watch this masterpiece on Thursday. I hope it will be on top of the list till then |
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Chen said: No.Its really THAT good?! |
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S0ul01 said: just watched the first 3 the third time today to get me in the mood again. Ill watch this masterpiece on Thursday. I hope it will be on top of the list till then lol "this masterpiece" You haven't seen it yet, idiot. Ugh. |
| Well, i read the novel and seen the first four and it has a good rating so i think it will be one. No reason to call me idiot, right? |
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Chen said: Its really THAT good?! Hell yeah! |
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| Alright, well, sorry about that. Just irks me when people go along with hype so eagerly, and like I said before, too many people here have apparently decided it's the greatest thing ever before even seeing it. |
| Well, I will see if they manage to deliver whats in the novel and i will report back if it was as good as expected |
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| This movie definitely deserves first place. I've given all other KnK movies a 9 so far, but this one gets a 10. It's simply beautiful. |
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kikoushi said: it deserves the top spot more than all of the anime in the top 10 and definitely a looot more than TTGL. How do you know? You didn't watch RK: Tsuiokuhen, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Aria and Hajime no Ippo so you can't really say that. |
antitype said: Just irks me when people go along with hype so eagerly I noticed |
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S0ul01 said: Well, I will see if they manage to deliver whats in the novel and i will report back if it was as good as expected the novel will always be better |
Posse said: kikoushi said: it deserves the top spot more than all of the anime in the top 10 and definitely a looot more than TTGL. How do you know? You didn't watch RK: Tsuiokuhen, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Aria and Hajime no Ippo so you can't really say that. iv seen all the top 10 list except LotGH and iv only seen the first season of Aria (but from what i hear its smiler to the others) and i will say KnK 5 deserves the top spot the most... (at least in mine and a ton of other ppls opinion) |
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Posse said: kikoushi said: it deserves the top spot more than all of the anime in the top 10 and definitely a looot more than TTGL. How do you know? You didn't watch RK: Tsuiokuhen, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Aria and Hajime no Ippo so you can't really say that. I'm watching Hajime no Ippo actually and currently on something like 30 for about a month now and it's pretty decent, and tried to watch Aria once, but only the first season not the last one, it was slice of life filled with mediocre-ness(?!?), I didn't get to watch Tsuiokuhen and Legend of the Galactic Heroes only. LotGH caught my attention once and i downloaded all the episodes in a rush to start to watch it at once then i saw the drawings, the animation,, after that it suddenly turned me off, so at least in this aspect it still is way behind of KnK whose plot and soundtracks are also appealing, attractive and extremely well-selected as well as its gorgeous visuals. So there is no way LotGH would top KnKMR in my list, but the only exception i forgot to mention about is as you said Tsuiokuhen. It might have the potential to reach the same level as KnKMR, but i'm still defending the statement i made there. And also, i didn't understand why it bothered you this much since, i did see 7/9 of the anime in the top 9 more than enough and one of the last two is impossible to beat KnKMR, and i definitely choose the universe of KnK over the historical universe of Tsu filled with samurai tales which is the least favorite genre of anime of mine. That's basically a personal opinion of mine and i will say it out loud again and for the last of a thousands time; it is very-well deserved, i hope it remains like that for a very long time at the top and also congrats ufotable (shoulda mentioned about it long before *_* ) |
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Scud said: Chen said: No.Its really THAT good?! kikoushi said: Chen said: Its really THAT good?! Hell yeah! I see a conflict of opinions here. :3 kikoushi said: Posse said: kikoushi said: it deserves the top spot more than all of the anime in the top 10 and definitely a looot more than TTGL. How do you know? You didn't watch RK: Tsuiokuhen, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Aria and Hajime no Ippo so you can't really say that. To each their own. Different people have different tastes. Even though I'd like to see KnK 5 stay on the top, I know that it'll tank. And holly crap 9.10. Any bets on how high it'll get? |
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kikoushi said: Posse said: kikoushi said: it deserves the top spot more than all of the anime in the top 10 and definitely a looot more than TTGL. How do you know? You didn't watch RK: Tsuiokuhen, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Aria and Hajime no Ippo so you can't really say that. I'm watching Hajime no Ippo actually and currently on something like 30 for about a month now and it's pretty decent, and tried to watch Aria once, but only the first season not the last one, it was slice of life filled with mediocre-ness(?!?), I didn't get to watch Tsuiokuhen and Legend of the Galactic Heroes only. LotGH caught my attention once and i downloaded all the episodes in a rush to start to watch it at once then i saw the drawings, the animation,, after that it suddenly turned me off, so at least in this aspect it still is way behind of KnK whose plot and soundtracks are also appealing, attractive and extremely well-selected as well as its gorgeous visuals. So there is no way LotGH would top KnKMR in my list, but the only exception i forgot to mention about is as you said Tsuiokuhen. It might have the potential to reach the same level as KnKMR, but i'm still defending the statement i made there. And also, i didn't understand why it bothered you this much since, i did see 7/9 of the anime in the top 9 more than enough and one of the last two is impossible to beat KnKMR, and i definitely choose the universe of KnK over the historical universe of Tsu filled with samurai tales which is the least favorite genre of anime of mine. That's basically a personal opinion of mine and i will say it out loud again and for the last of a thousands time; it is very-well deserved, i hope it remains like that for a very long time at the top and also congrats ufotable (shoulda mentioned about it long before *_* ) Lol wtf? You are comparing the animation of an anime that aired in 1988 with a movie from 2008, are you kidding? Seriously... Anyway, I didn't watch the movie (I will someday anyway), but even if I did, i wouldn't say that it's better than everything else in the top 10 without having watched ALL of the top 10. |
PosseFeb 3, 2009 5:32 PM
| It wasn't bad, but I'm still confused at the overwhelming love for this movie. I'll leave my criticism in the discussion thread, but... Seriously, what makes this so much better than anything else? What does it have that makes it so awesome? Other than the soundtrack and the animation, it's pretty average (or less than average) in every respect. |
Sohei said: Scud said: Nayah said: Watch me bump it some more....once my downloading is finished. Yeah, I'm keen to see just how amazing this is. stream WHY?Blasphemy i tell you. I see that the elitists are working hard here. |
NayahFeb 3, 2009 5:46 PM
| I loved this movie but I don't think it deserves the top spot. But I did enjoy more than anything else in the top 10 anime on here |
| That is some epic rating. Lol. But, jeez. Wait till at least over 9000 people have watched it. As in, wait until like, 8500 people has watched it, with 500 dupe accounts or something. Just a random thought though (probably commented already before): It seems anime ratings are following this pattern of "sequels-are-rated-better-than-prequels" notion. Especially if the prequel was already good. But yeah, I'll be watching the series... next week, if I got time. |
| There's no doubt in my mind that sequels tend to have inflated scores but it's hard to argue how this movie was not as good, if not better than the prequels. However, it happens alot and can't be helped under the current system. You just have to manually look at the number of votes given and make your own judgement. |
Nayah said: Sohei said: Scud said: Nayah said: Watch me bump it some more....once my downloading is finished. Yeah, I'm keen to see just how amazing this is. stream WHY?Blasphemy i tell you. I see that the elitists are working hard here. brb gonna go watch 5cm on youtube ON LQ MODE |
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| I'm very glad that this is #1. It definitely deserves it. In fact, I'm planning on watching it again this weekend (2x in the same week. wow) because I got flashes of the epic scenes from listening to sprinter. Still, it just keeps going up. When will the score start to taper off? Never? 9.10 right now :D |
| It just hit 9.11 {:-D |
| 9.11 sure is a high score... |
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| I don't know about you guys, but I'm taking screenshots as the score goes up. Then I can say that KnK had ___ rank before it goes down. Archiving epic score for historical significance. :D |
| lol im gonna do that now 2 xD |
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| so... any explanation on who this "akitaka-san" at 49:53 is? seems like a character that just got randomly put in there edit: nvm. I found out he's shiki's servant, for some reason he was there... with a sword, and gave it to mikiya. Makes enough sense to me |
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| The biggest unanswered question in this series is how Shiki can go around dressed like that and not draw attention to herself. :-P |
naikou said: The biggest unanswered question in this series is how Shiki can go around dressed like that and not draw attention to herself. :-P Remember its Japan, people dress alot stranger then you could ever imagine there =3 |
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| huh? But Tomoes mother was out with a Kimono as well... Shiki was wearing a jacket above her Kimono its not that of a big deal. |
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Ketuekigami said: Remember its Japan, people dress alot stranger then you could ever imagine there =3 Touche. |
Neverender said: Nayah said: Sohei said: Scud said: Nayah said: Watch me bump it some more....once my downloading is finished. Yeah, I'm keen to see just how amazing this is. stream WHY?Blasphemy i tell you. I see that the elitists are working hard here. brb gonna go watch 5cm on youtube ON LQ MODE You WOULDN'T..., would you? |
Wishy said: Lol, this is the same as Aria, I don't know if this is really good. But, as there are lots of prequels, the low scores are received by the first movies, while the last ones only get the high scores. It's been a few days since this aired, only the crazy fans have watched it. This is #1, ok, but if it didn't have the 4 prequels holding the low scores, this won't even be in the top 10. That's all. Exactly right, the prequels are just skimming the votes from people who won't watch anymore of the series/movies and as the new entries are created, only the huge fans of the previous instalments vote and thus the rating is artificially raised. I personnally think the third movie was the best among the first five (that's the only one I gave a 10, I gave a 9 for the 4 others) and I don't really understand how this fifth movie could be considered so much better than any other movie/series on MAL under normal ciscumstances. If all the movies from the saga Kara no Kyoukai had been created in the same entry, the medium score would probably be around 8.60, like on ANN, making it a great series of movies, but clearly not a top20 anime, more a top50 or such. |
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| because this is a good viewpoint against everyone saying that its score comes from merely that fact that its a sequel. taken from the episode discussion thread. the biggest point against the view that some ppl are having is the large difference between the increasing scores and the score of #4 which was lower then #3. if the score was seriously influenced the way everyone says it was then #4 should have made the first page and if it was only influenced by the hordes of fans as some ppl here are saying then shouldnt #4 have scored much higher? im not saying that the fact of it being a sequel didnt raise it at all, im just saying that the quality of #5 is what brought it to MALs #1. But I would love to hear an explanation for such a large difference though that doesnt involve it being a sequel. meonlyme775 said: Let me just pop in a "quick" comment here. I don't believe that this is the work of fanboys. Exhibit A: Compare the score of this to the other KnK movies. Can fanboys really be this spread out? Exhibit B: I had yet to give a KnK movie a 10 before this one. The impression it made on me was astounding. Everything from the soundtrack to the storyline pulled me in unlike any of the other KnK movies had. After watching #1, I decided to continue because the animation was so good, and I'm glad I did, if only for #5. In my opinion, #5 put together what the previous 4 lacked individually: |
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