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| Everyone seems to have different thoughts and guilt on how Menma died. Maybe Menma came back to rectify this, her wish being that she knows that her sudden death caused some emotional barriers between the friends, and she wants to provide closure to any misunderstanding over who's to blame for her death. Poppo and Tsuruko clearly are affected by her death as well after this episode, so subconsciously, she came back to clear the air. |
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Linalee-Stratos said: Well, it's more complex than that. It's more like they have to forgive themselves and reach an understanding with one another. They had a lot of secret feelings that pretty much exploded after Menma's death.PuellaMagiPseudo said: There is nothing to forgive here. So Yukiatsu crossdresses, everyone forgives him and worries about him. And Poppo kinda messed up bad but it's not his fault. Common sense would tell you a ghost is trying to sleep in peace so his way of thinking is that she wants to have her wish granted and then rest. Menma on the other hand seems to be resisting the idea of leaving, not just the fact they can't see her. She accepts her death but at the same time she doesn't want to leave them. |
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| wait, so why does tsuruko have the pin? i'm assuming she has the old one b/c it's all beaten up. i think it's already safe to assume that she likes yukiatsu if she went out of her way to get that hairpin & keep it for herself. EchoesOfMana said:  "Yukiatsu, I know you're confessin' and everythin', and I'll let you finish in a minute, but there's an earthquake coming!!!" XD oh my god. |
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| Wow. this was really emotional. and so many love, in 4 sim? lol |
| I wonder how Menma really died... First I thought Menma slipped and fell in the river while chasing Jintan... Then I thought Yukiatsu bumped into Menma accidentally while chasing which she ended up falling into the river... And then why do I get the feeling that Tsuruko also has something to do with Menma's death and not only Yukiatsu. The moment I saw her clench her fist when Yukiatsu admitted it was all his fault made it suspicious. Yukiatsu's story doesn't make any sense or should I say not enough information. It's like this is what really happened: Yukiatsu throw the hairpin and ran away. Tsuruko saw Yukiatsu throw the hairpin. Then Menma came back and then Tsuruko told her Yukiatsu threw something. Menma went to pick it up. She fell and died :/ Something like that |
| Can someone talk badly about this aniem so I can just put a x2 under that post? Really: This show makes no sense. A girl died several years ago and now she is the center of the atention when she is dead! Everyone's actions and forms of behavior somewhat revolves around her, I can't stand it. In this episode the first part was so ridiculous, I love dramas, but this tries to be a drama but without a good reason. The crying would be understandable if she had just died, not million years after. The anime can be interesting when they don't talk about Memna and the character relations are cool. But despite that it's anoying, not boring, but really reallly anoying. Quick graph to show my appreciation of this series.  |
| Interesting thought when Poppo went on about how Menma is here, because she was not able to reach Heaven. Could it be possible that Menma committed suicide? Her death is quite ambigious, and I'm not sure if they'll ever clear that up, but I can definitely see this turning around and throwing a curveball right at us. And isn't Naruko like 13, of course she'd be a virgin haha. Well then again, what does that say about her "friends" >_> |
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invazn said: And isn't Naruko like 13, of course she'd be a virgin haha. Well then again, what does that say about her "friends" >_> First year of highschool in Japan is usually around the 15-16 age range. |
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| Awesome ep :D Cant wait for next <33 |
| Thanks yukiatsu xD great ep ...more and more story development |
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Ballista said: Everyone seems to have different thoughts and guilt on how Menma died. Maybe Menma came back to rectify this, her wish being that she knows that her sudden death caused some emotional barriers between the friends, and she wants to provide closure to any misunderstanding over who's to blame for her death. Poppo and Tsuruko clearly are affected by her death as well after this episode, so subconsciously, she came back to clear the air. I think this is how the anime is going to be like so far. Best drama anime I've watched in a couple of seasons. I like it more because there is no manga for this so people can't try to spoil it, everyone has to wait to see what really happens. Her wish was most likely that all of them would be friends forever. Seeing how after her death that really wasn't the case for the remaining friends the ghost Menma came to who she though (and everyone thought?) was the leader of their group so that her wish can come true. Which is why I think he can only see her for now. I'm just wondering if one by one each one of the friends will start seeing Menma or if the ending will be all of them being able to see her. I'm waiting for more storylines invovling Poopo and Tsuruko. They make it look like Poopo just wants to see a ghost irl, I'm sure he wants to see Menma too but they make it seem like hes more interested in seeing her just bc she is a ghost. As for Tsuruko I have a feeling that her storyline will be even more......weird than the cross dressers part in the story. Teh quiet ones are always the freaks!!!!!!(jk =P) |
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| Every episode so far's made me cry to some extent; by the end my whole neighborhood might be flooded... |
curiouser and curiouser :) |
Day2Dream said: This. Sigh. It's pretty easy to prove she is there. Just do a guessing game where Jinta has to guess what someone writes on a paper in another room and have Menma tell him the answer... I just can't understand why she doesn't prove that she's there. |
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Onyxthegreat said: Day2Dream said: This. Sigh. It's pretty easy to prove she is there. Just do a guessing game where Jinta has to guess what someone writes on a paper in another room and have Menma tell him the answer... I just can't understand why she doesn't prove that she's there. Yeah this seems ridiculous to me. I can only assume that's she's only in his head from the moment they don't do anything to prove her existence or not. And btw, if she can bake cakes or pick up food to eat, why can't she pick a pen and write? This is bullshit. Poppo was right asking for a sighn and her starting crying instead of trying to do something like he was asking made me furious because it was too damn convenient way for again avoiding the elephant in the room. "Give her a break" my ass!!! There are a tone of shit she can do. If she's really there then the script is bad as hell on this matter. meme-chan said: OShoranO said: Anaru's personality really doesn't fit with her self made image. Makes me wonder how she kept it up for who knows how many years. I'd like to know that too. And her friends don't seem to be the kind that would bother hanging out with someone that is not like them. It fits just fine actually. She's exactly the kind of girl that will get caught with them. She has a relative weak independent personality and she tries to follow the crowd. She could have been stuck with them simply because they spoke to her and told her to go with them when she first entered school. From the moment a few people started pulling her around she easily went with it. Besides isn't that what teenagers do? Try to hang out with the supposed "cool people" that in reality are dump fucks even if inside they know there real self thinks differently? Some succeed in switching of their brain and fitting in like little fishes carried by the current some can't do it and some unfortunately get so absorbed that never find the switch on button even when their swallow school life comes to an end. You know the more i see Anaru the more i think she doesn't belong with ether of the guys our specific group. They both have Menma in their minds and in the end if anyone of them ends up with her it will be more like "she ain't bad" or "she's good enough". Anaru isn't an extremely strong personality but she's quite innocent and pure. She needs to find a guy that completely appreciates and loves her existence. A guy that doesn't just think she's a good choice for girlfriend but a guy who puts her above all and thinks of her as his soul-mate protecting her from her silliness and naivety. |
MonadMay 14, 2011 9:36 AM
| Amazing episode, really struck me. Got a little teary-eyed. |
Balakirev said: so you' AnoniMus said: so you're saying that if your mom died 10 years ago, you wouldn't be sad anymore?????In this episode the first part was so ridiculous, I love dramas, but this tries to be a drama but without a good reason. The crying would be understandable if she had just died, not million years after. No. Or at least a little bit but it wouldn't affect my life after 10 years. And only think of her once per month or so, not every day almost every hours. (you gave bad example, i don't like my mom much lol) |
| this show officially gets my vote for best of the season and on my short list for beat of the year. |
| Removed - At least support your argument if you disagree. -Chavez. |
ChavezMay 14, 2011 1:13 PM
| DO NOT TOUCH MY ANARU, YOU FUCKING BASTARD. I'm glad Tranny-san saved her. |
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| Menma blushing when Yukiatsu confess to her was cute. |
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MusashiRose said: I was just going to post about that. That's a good theory.Am I wrong in thinking that Yukiatsu said "THEY left us behind..." or "We've been left behind.." not "he left us behind"? Cuz that makes perfect sense. Yukiatsu is into menma and Anjou is into Jintan...and in a way, both Menma and Jintan have left Yukiatsu/Anjou behind. Menma in death and Jintan in becoming a recluse (also with his feelings for Menma.) Anyways... I want everyone to be able to see poor Menma :(! Can't wait until next week... |
jigglypuff said: I'm pretty sure one of the groups translated it as "we were left behind".MusashiRose said: I was just going to post about that. That's a good theory.Am I wrong in thinking that Yukiatsu said "THEY left us behind..." or "We've been left behind.." not "he left us behind"? Cuz that makes perfect sense. Yukiatsu is into menma and Anjou is into Jintan...and in a way, both Menma and Jintan have left Yukiatsu/Anjou behind. Menma in death and Jintan in becoming a recluse (also with his feelings for Menma.) Anyways... I want everyone to be able to see poor Menma :(! Can't wait until next week... |
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| Don't say you don't love your mother, cause there will be a day when you realize how much your parents sacrifice for you. When did I realize this? Last year, when I finished high school. |
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| Dang... I kinda wished that she was raped... |
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| Yukiatsu redeemed himself quite well, and now Anjou has proven to be either really slow or easy. 5/5. Another great build up for the grand finale. |
neverLampMay 14, 2011 10:19 PM
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HawthorneKitty said: And add MORE emotional baggage to the whole group?Dang... I kinda wished that she was raped... |
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MessageInTime said: Wrong. My dog died 6 or 7 years ago, my grandfather died 6 months ago. We were close. It was sad.AnoniMus said: Balakirev said: so you' AnoniMus said: so you're saying that if your mom died 10 years ago, you wouldn't be sad anymore?????In this episode the first part was so ridiculous, I love dramas, but this tries to be a drama but without a good reason. The crying would be understandable if she had just died, not million years after. No. Or at least a little bit but it wouldn't affect my life after 10 years. And only think of her once per month or so, not every day almost every hours. (you gave bad example, i don't like my mom much lol) Well, I'm guessing that you've never lost anyone close to you. My grandmother died 7 years ago, and I still get pretty emotional when I think about her. So if you can't relate to the show, don't call it "stupid". Still I never talk about my dog and never talk about my grandfather, unless obviously my mother or grandmother mentions him, which is rare. And it was only 6 months ago! Yes I can think about him once in a while, but not even once per week. This show is centred on Menma, and she is dead for years! And it's not an occasional mentioning, it's all the time! And another thing already mentioned before. If she's not a ghost what about proving that? That's just ridiculous. Kurogashi said: Don't say you don't love your mother, cause there will be a day when you realize how much your parents sacrifice for you. When did I realize this? Last year, when I finished high school. I know all that bs. I just don't like her for her personality. |
| Jimmy, have you ever head the word hiperbolic?... Kimimaro_GBA said: AnoniMus said: Balakirev said: so you' AnoniMus said: so you're saying that if your mom died 10 years ago, you wouldn't be sad anymore?????In this episode the first part was so ridiculous, I love dramas, but this tries to be a drama but without a good reason. The crying would be understandable if she had just died, not million years after. No. Or at least a little bit but it wouldn't affect my life after 10 years. And only think of her once per month or so, not every day almost every hours. (you gave bad example, i don't like my mom much lol) My grandfather died 8 years ago and I still think about him every day. Yes, I moved on with my life, but it's still a sore spot for me. You have to remember, that group was very close, and Menma died when they were still very young. Losing a good friend - especially one you had feelings for - at such a young age would be very hard to handle, even more so if you felt like you were responsible. To be honest, you sound very cold. That's fine, everyone handles things differently, but you have to understand that such a morbid situation would effect most people very deeply, especially when your dead friend is hanging around as a constant reminder. Well I think you either are an unusual case or deep down you havent moved on. I don't know I don't have much life experience, but for me it doesn't make any sense thinking about dead people. It's not cold it's realistic, I worry about people when they are alive, if they are dead just forget them and move on. Yeah, they were close, but if he sees Menma dead as a reminder, one thing is wrong: -He was a mental problem and should check with a doctor. -She is indeed there and it's something supernatural, this way he should prove to his friends she is there and the story should move on.l |
| This show has so much drama I love it. Just when I felt bad for yukiatsu he fucks things up but again does something good. Wow. I really think Menmas wish is to be able to talk to everyone. It's really heartbreaking that she cannot reply to them no matter how hard she tries. The ending mad me want to cry. |
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| Kimimaro_GBA no point arguing more, I think we reached a consensus :) DesolateOne said: This show has so much drama I love it. Just when I felt bad for yukiatsu he fucks things up but again does something good. Wow. I really think Menmas wish is to be able to talk to everyone. It's really heartbreaking that she cannot reply to them no matter how hard she tries. The ending mad me want to cry. It's not that wish almost for sure. Besides she could reply to them because she could write, or at least we think that since she can cook. |
| i want other people to see Menma to |
| Why is this anime so good? I am just enthralled every episode and they seem to pass in a blink of an eye. Rewatch so hard. Still well on its way to being my favorite anime ever assuming it doesn't stumble on its way to the finish line. |
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| 5/5, i love this anime, just 2 great 4 words of me, normal mortal ^^ |
zimno said: tsubasalover said: And Earthquake warning when Yukiatsu's confession... it was attributable to Anaru episode was 5/5  |
Leon-Gun said: You can never have too much, right?HawthorneKitty said: And add MORE emotional baggage to the whole group?Dang... I kinda wished that she was raped... |
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