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Apr 3, 2019 3:20 PM

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Demyx_IX said:
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The hatred toward Naofumi is still unexplained .


Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh did you not see the part where they say that the main religion of the country is the Church of the THREE Heroes? Or how Naofumi was literally called Devil throughout? Put two and two together pal.

I was referring to malty , she's doing whatever she can to fuck him over from episode 1 which doesn't make sense .
also do you mind explaining what you just said cause i still can't figure it out .
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Holy shit, an actual good episode? That didn't happend since episode 4
Apr 3, 2019 3:50 PM
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papsoshea said:
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This show relies too hard on people being stupid in order to advance the plot because there isn’t a single soldier present who questions Malty’s orders to prevent them from shootin.

The excuses of that woman are increasingly stupid and pathetic, brainwashing? wtf

Meanwhile, Naofumi holds off all of the soldiers on his own
oh if they said that MC is not in any way Overpower at least when it suits you, at the end of the day the only thing that justifies the support of people to naofumi is the existence of these fools who want to reached this extreme in order to harm him
The result of one-dimensional characters and a weak hook and gimmick. Naofumi is an OP protagonist, all the people who keep saying he isn't are lying. And he's the bad type since he's so bland, and everything is set up for him so the precious audience gets some justice porn. Also, the comments of people who want to see Myne get raped lol just goes to show you the mindset of these fans. Here is what happens with Myne - spoilers

This is what the fans are looking forward too.
where the F* did you get that info? Is that from the WN? If so im glad i dint read it and that isnt canon. Before you go full on salt mode maybe you should pick up the LN before you start call people liers or just drop the anime
Apr 3, 2019 4:00 PM

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papsoshea said:
The show's original hook and gimmicks are dead, so what does the show do? Repeat them. "Guys, there are dire consequences for him going rage mode, you will see in episode 12" Literally saw nothing in episode 12 and in this episode. This show is fucking trash! Everything is set up so losers who hate authority and their parents can self-insert into a cringe-inducing edgelord who has a harem of loli's are a revenge and justice porn addicts

lol exactly. The plot of this show went literally nowhere in the entire first cour. We got the same story beats in this episode as the first and fourth, except now with an even edgier soundtrack and more splosions.

Well, the dire consequences of him going rage mode was technically the hilarious CGI torture device that he can apparently summon now. All in a show that is tryharding to be "mature" and "morally ambiguous" so that the man-children watching it can feel validated and pretend they have refined taste. That's just embarrassing.
Apr 3, 2019 4:08 PM

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I dont think ill ever get used to the inconsistency in the animation quality... first half was p bad but the second half was good enough.

that music is always on point though
Apr 3, 2019 4:12 PM
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And we see again the dirty strategies of the filthy and creeping Mal-Bitch, apparently now she counts on with the help of the church of the three heroes (something totally expected), now that those soldiers did their acting and the sorcerers of the kingdom have shown false images in which Naofumi, Raphtalia and Firo are merciless assassins who kidnapped the poor heiress to the throne.
How bad they were with Raphtalia and Firo with the "wanted" posters they look horrible. Now the group is unable to cross the border and border security has tripled.
I'm feel sorry for poor Melty, she believes that her father is a good man, but in the end is just a screen so that Melty not accuse him with her mother, the queen and true ruler Melromarc, what bothers me is that Melty insists in which Naofumi apologizes to the Scum King and that only makes Naofumi more angry. In the end Naofumi decides to take care of Melty and also Naofumi tells Melty what the bastard of her father and sister did with his life, traveling through the mountains was the most decent decision, but the soldiers are close to them until they find the group.
And the trio of idiots make their appearance and obviously they believe Mal-Bitch and the soldiers who are followers of the church (seriously these three guys give me pity for their enormous stupidity, I even think that Ren would use the little common sense he has, but he did not do anything ). The worst thing is they believe the lie that Mal-Bitch says about the shield that brainwash his victims, Melty's attempt to fix this stupid misunderstanding was useless, besides that damn slut messed up the actions of Naofumi in his trips to other towns. I love how Naofumi exposes the plans of the slut of Mal-Bitch, obviously nobody believes what the "shield demon" says.
It's official Motoyasu is a disgusting pig, I would have liked Firo to break his jaw when this disgusting being hugged her, but Melty gave Motoyasu a good scare.
Mal-Bitch used all her magic arsenal to kill her younger sister, but Naofumi and Raphtalia prepared to attack.
How pleasant and satisfying it was to see how Raphtalia "penetrated" the slut as she always deserved it, is sad that she only drained her mana, at least a little blood so that disgusting bicth sufferer and Firo uses the new gloves to beat Motoyasu.
In the end Naofumi flees with the girls, but before they leave, he tells Ren to discover the truth about what happens and throws the rosary of the church of the three heroes as a clue.
The Shadow appears and asks Naofumi to reunite with the queen so he can help overthrow the true culprits of Melty's attempted murder (Mal-Bitch and the Church of the Three Stupid).
Melty is so cute getting mad at Naofumi, she doesn't like to be call princess and demands Naofumi to call her by her name, she is so capricious and Raphtalia gets jealous, but this pleasant moment is interrupted by the sight of the soldiers of the church and Mal-Bitch burn the forest (is already obvious that the soldiers are followers of the church)

Naofumi has a difficult way to meet with the queen and the new accusation to Naofumi only make me feel more angry with the injustice that the MC goes through.
The new Op is decent, the only thing I liked were the visuals that show many juicy spoilers, but the Ending I loved it a lot, especially the visuals with Raphtalia, she is so cute when she is together with her beloved Naofumi.
Apr 3, 2019 4:21 PM

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papsoshea said:
You think this won't be in the LN? I don't need to pick up the LN, because all the claims people made that this isn't a generic isekai - debunked by the anime.

Generic in what way? Perhaps elaborate rather than throwing meaningless buzzwords around.

No harem/no harem tropes - debunked by the anime.

There are harem tropes, but it's not really an actual harem. The 2nd ED also goes against this "Shield Hero is a harem" narrative.

Naofumi isn't an OP MC - debunked by the anime.

I like how you say this with a straight face after the MC got owned the previous episode. And if he's OP, then he would've already been in Siltwelt and not have to hide like a runaway fugitive.

So yes, the fans here have been lying. Literally look at the episode when Melty is first introduced, they said she is not a part of the MC's team

No, they said that she will not be part of the MC's team permanently.

...there are no harem tropes with her, she will soon leave and become a side character - last episode and this episode, she returns back into Naofumi's team and we all saw the harem trope at the end.

Which honestly, I also felt that the trope at the end was unnecessary.

Plus, the new cover art for this has Melty on it.

Which doesn't signify anything. It could mean that she joins the team permanently or she is heavily featured in this particular arc of the series.



And in the WN she eventually has waifu wars (similar to the ones we have already seen between Raph and Filo) with Filo. Lol, don't kid yourself.

The LN deviates quite a bit from the WN. The fanbase didn't particularly like the last third or quarter of the series. It's possible that the author makes drastic changes to that portion of the series, as well.

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Apr 3, 2019 4:21 PM

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Nooooo they changed the ED too. Although this one is very nice aswell especially the visuals. Very entertaining episode! The more we see Myne the more evil we see in her.. also I’m kinda done with the sword and bow heroes. In the past episodes they were often leaning towards the good side but everytime they met with Naofumi again after a while they were all the way back to Myne’s side... Fck them im done. Not sure why she was laughing so satisfying at the end... Is she enjoying the torture of bushes and trees...?





Apr 3, 2019 4:22 PM
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Well... 'Faith' didn't disappoint. *sad clap* But man oh man this adaptation is so poor! I swear... the light novel is real fun... but you wouldn't think that going off of this!

Normally I would've dropped this by now, but I do kind of wanna see how people react to a certain scene later that's going to look way out-of-left-field thanks to Naofumi not being the narrator in this version. I'm gonna try to hold out!
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papsoshea said:
Yeah, at this point, any consequence will just feel unimportant since he's used it basically like a Super Saiyan transformation thus far + he's the MC - what happened to the whole concept of "having to be seething in rage" and can you really get into that state of mind from a rape accusation? lol yikes, this is horrible.

There again, "enraged by fake rape' is supposed to appeal to teen edgelords, not be believable or realistic writing. Unfortunately, Naofumi comes off more as a chronically constipated emo than enraged.

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DeadlyRavenApr 8, 2019 1:06 AM
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Rapthalia was quite jealous there, nice to see Melty opening up to Naofumi.

They adapted this part fine, when I was reading I imagined it to happen more on a flat surface, so it was actually nice to see it being done with a bit more complexity and verticality.

Also new OP, L'Arc with red hair though? Must be from the gemstones... that arc was heaven for a rpg farm lover like me, high expectations!
Apr 3, 2019 5:02 PM

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1. Before entering this world, he was the typical loser. Upon entering this world, he is the "loser."

He's the typical non-hardware otaku who's in university. That's quite different from a loser.

And quickly becomes the typical edgelord MC and savior that we come to know in these types of series that has girls following him (harem trope)

What's an edgelord? Funny how this is one of the most commonly thrown buzzwords around, but no one has really bothered to explain.

and he is OP - never lost a battle - Myne intervened in his fight with Spear Hero. His showdown with Glass was a stalemate.

Lol, the fact that you have to outright lie makes a significant portion of your comment invalid.

And everything is conveniently laid out for him to have the high moral ground, and receive things that were advertised to be difficult for him to receive. The whole "me vs the world" concept last a few episodes, and now is reused again in this episode, using a similar hook and gimmick of the first episode.

Uh, because there are still some people who hate his guts quite a bit, particularly the church of the 3 heroes? If, all of a sudden, the capital loves the Shield Hero, then that's way worse. Yeah, the church will all of a sudden see the error of their ways and establish a new religion out of the kindness of their hearts. See, that will be actual bad writing.

2. There are harem tropes because it eventually turns into a harem.

Correlation =/= Causation

3. So, since you used the fight with Glass to counter this example, would you kindly take back all the times before episode 12 when you denied he wasn't OP? From what I saw, Glass showed how great Naofumi is and how weak the other heroes are. She failed. You can say she was toying with him or whatever, but that doesn't change the fact that he isn't the OP protagonist. He didn't even get "owned" either. I like how you say this with a straight face.

If he's OP, then he would've beaten Glass, period. If he's OP, then Glass wouldn't have broken through Iron Maiden with no damage. The fact that you have to resort to immense mental gymnastics makes your, if I may use one of the overused buzzwords, hate boner, for the series all the more hilarious.

4. No, they literally said after the second episode of her being introduced that, that was it. She will be gone and be a side character, no part of harem, no harem tropes no nothing with the MC besides little interactions.

Who's they? I can pull the "unnamed sources tell me" card out of my ass, too.

5. But was that in the source?

In the manga, at least, no. Not sure about the LN.

6. Ok, so the cover art doesn't signify anything but the ED does?

Yes, because watch the OP's and ED's of actual harem anime. A common thing done in harem anime OP's and ED's: the voice actresses of the harem singing together.

Meanwhile, only Raphtalia and Naofumi are featured in ED2 even though Filo and Melty are also a prominent characters.

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Good episode.

Visuals for the new OP are fantastic but I think I liked the old OP song more. The new ED is nice but the old ED was hands down better, I loved that song.

Myne is upto her shit again but it's nice to see that Ren at very least is beginning to see the light.

Filo beating the ever living shit out of Motoyasu never gets old. xD

Playcool said:

They adapted this part fine, when I was reading I imagined it to happen more on a flat surface, so it was actually nice to see it being done with a bit more complexity and verticality.

I thought the same thing as well.
Apr 3, 2019 5:18 PM

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Opening song is great, loved it more than the previous. Wonder who the emo silver haired woman/girl! Also I was surprised That witch Malty is alive after that.
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Apr 3, 2019 5:19 PM
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This episode took a lot of positive steps. I liked the little context montages here and there for context. Pacing felt right mostly. The problem the show has is that it doesn't feel obvious that he would flee from a fight (without knowing his peers are there). The other problem is that they skimped on the animation budget so Bitch's magic looks underwhelming. It loooks classic kid show - say something, action, pause, say something, action.

I like it enough to watch it every wednesday but I think this gets forgotten when the season is over. Manga though i still exciting and I still hold out some hope that we'll continue to see a trend of improvement in the animation.
Apr 3, 2019 5:25 PM

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This episode took a lot of positive steps. I liked the little context montages here and there for context. Pacing felt right mostly. The problem the show has is that it doesn't feel obvious that he would flee from a fight (without knowing his peers are there). The other problem is that they skimped on the animation budget so Bitch's magic looks underwhelming. It loooks classic kid show - say something, action, pause, say something, action.

I like it enough to watch it every wednesday but I think this gets forgotten when the season is over. Manga though i still exciting and I still hold out some hope that we'll continue to see a trend of improvement in the animation.

That has been my biggest pet peeve with this adaptation. I'm not sure if it's budget issues, but the action scenes have been below expectations.
Apr 3, 2019 5:25 PM
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had to listen to that new opening and fck myne seriously
Apr 3, 2019 5:26 PM

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What an episode! This episode reminded me why i gave this anime a 10/10, love it so much!

It's so satisfying to watch Naofumi's team getting more strength and recognition like they won't even come close to what they did to him in the 1st episode. Like now they can fight back and he has people on his side, and now he has the princess on his side, that's probably the best thing that could have happened to him, and Malty is starting to lose ground ;) Especially with other heroes but mostly Ren, and she has to use every time even more extreme tactics, but they won't work.
It was so satisfying watching Raphtalia getting behind and stabbing her! xD What a scene! And i'm glad that Melty is now inside everything that happened, unfortunately, she had to learn this in the worst way possible...

Spear hero is so disgusting...

I guess this will be enough for Ren to open his eyes and think about all of this!
Can't believe they can actually manipulate footage xD

I love the first OP/ED but this new ED is so great!
Look at this <3 10/10




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Apr 3, 2019 5:31 PM
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It's kinda interesting how this episode is generating discussion regarding this vs Slime isekai. I'll weigh in on that before I talk about this episode itself.

I really enjoyed the slime isekai. It had a good focus on world building, diplomacy and character interactions, lots of it felt natural and fun to watch. A lot of isekai tend to skimp out on world building and slime isekai's focus on it helped it stand out and become more realised once it's bigger plot elements began to kick in. For such a silly concept, it knew how to do drama at the right points too.

But I do have to concede on one point. The hero being overpowered does unfortunately drag it down in a couple areas. It works great for things like the whole teaching arc, not so much for anything the show tries to make out as a tangible threat. Be it Ifrit, the Orc King or that big flying demon whatever. They still try to do the cool battles for characters to show off their strengths and there's not much credence to it.

Now in comparison to Shield Hero, sure Naofumi is pretty strong but he's not reaching the levels of OP. Most of his accomplishments are through teamwork, bonds and playing tactically and making full use of his abilities, in contrast to the other heroes who all focus on attacks. And even if Naofumi WAS OP, the oppressive nature of the world would undo any possible sway that may have. Power can't sway hearts and minds, after all. Therefore it works a little better here.

Now enough of that, onto the actual episode.

Things feel like they've ramped up nicely. Framing the Shield Hero to further turn the kingdom on him and undo his good honest work is deliciously despicable. Malty continues to excel as the wolf in sheep's clothing, though I do kinda feel she went a bit overboard and made it obvious in this episode, but I guess you can argue she did that before anyway with her constant hounding of Naofumi such as trying to tax Lute.

Security is gone, Naofumi and co can't travel in the wagon anymore, Motoyasu having a counter made for Filo is a nice touch and it's gonna be nice to see some more locations in this world. It's been very insular to the one kingdom and it's villages so far so it'll be interesting to see what they do with everywhere else.
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it was a decent episode, i enjoyed it but can someone tell me if they are gonna introduce some villains that are threatening? there is glass but she is too bland for me to take it seriously



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Apr 3, 2019 5:32 PM
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interesting episode, here we see the Naofumi team running away with Melty, their new enemy seems to be 3 hero churches, is the pope the mastermind behind the chaos that befell naofumi, malty also seems to work with them, the spear hero still looks stupid as usual, filo landed his fist also looked very funny, raphtalia stabbed malty with wow abstract sword hoping he died, but unfortunately he survived, it was annoying to see the prostitute still alive
Apr 3, 2019 5:34 PM

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Damn, I hate malty so much ffs. Ren with the only competent brain to figure out what is happening. The spear hero creepy af as always and the archer hero being useless once again.
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where the F* did you get that info? Is that from the WN? If so im glad i dint read it and that isnt canon. Before you go full on salt mode maybe you should pick up the LN before you start call people liers or just drop the anime
You think this won't be in the LN? I don't need to pick up the LN, because all the claims people made that this isn't a generic isekai - debunked by the anime. No harem/no harem tropes - debunked by the anime. Naofumi isn't an OP MC - debunked by the anime. So yes, the fans here have been lying. Literally look at the episode when Melty is first introduced, they said she is not a part of the MC's team, there are no harem tropes with her, she will soon leave and become a side character - last episode and this episode, she returns back into Naofumi's team and we all saw the harem trope at the end. Plus, the new cover art for this has Melty on it. And in the WN she eventually has waifu wars (similar to the ones we have already seen between Raph and Filo) with Filo. Lol, don't kid yourself.

Edit: From the comments I've seen, that whole thing with Myne is what everyone is looking forward to.
i actualy have the LN and doesnt end like that at all. Also mc not op his better then other heroes? yes, but


Now i do agree that anime did make up the "mate" thing with filo bc in LN it looks more like filo and melty have a thing for each other. But again your kinda not wrong calling other people lier bc i have read some fans saying stuff that i have no clue about. Im a LN reader/anime only havent check the manga or WN but in LN tells the story in naofumi pov maybe is why the manga and anime seams a bit off.
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i hope this episode was intended to be funny because it's the most i've laughed watching this show.


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now hopefully Ren can use like 2% of his brain and put two and two together that the girl setting towns ablaze and trying to kill her own sister is bad news!
Apr 3, 2019 6:17 PM

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i hope this episode was intended to be funny because it's the most i've laughed watching this show.


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now hopefully Ren can use like 2% of his brain and put two and two together that the girl setting towns ablaze and trying to kill her own sister is bad news!


LMAO same thoughts they really using Adobe Photoshop on that orb

Apr 3, 2019 6:18 PM

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Ralphtalia x Naofumi is canon from what I see in the ED...probably............hopefully....................PLZ THE SHIP NEEDS TO SAIL!!!
P.S. Will Kirito(REN) use some brain cells to save the day!??
Apr 3, 2019 6:26 PM

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The orbs have video editing features. Fucking hilarious. They could have just used that from ep1 to frame him but now they choose to use it of all times and likely won't ever use them again because plot device and convenience.

New opening hints further than what I expected them to adapt. Visually, much better than the previous op, the part with Raphtalia and Filo sliding down the hill, very nice.
Apr 3, 2019 6:59 PM

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Myne just digging her self into the worste anime character in history
Apr 3, 2019 6:59 PM

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I swear to God, everytime I see Myne breaths I feel like screaming "F*CKIN B*TCH!! JUST BURN ALREADY!!".
Apr 3, 2019 7:01 PM

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If the episode had been aired on 1st of April, I would have said Myne's best girl.

But it aired on the 3rd so I'm just going to say "screw you bitch".

Cool episode anyway, I like that Melty joined the group (Naofumi lolis magnet ?).

Looking forward to know more about this queen.
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BourBon-7so said:
Demyx_IX said:


Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh did you not see the part where they say that the main religion of the country is the Church of the THREE Heroes? Or how Naofumi was literally called Devil throughout? Put two and two together pal.

I was referring to malty , she's doing whatever she can to fuck him over from episode 1 which doesn't make sense .
also do you mind explaining what you just said cause i still can't figure it out .

1. Be specific about what you're talking about then.
2. How can you not get what I said? Its literally in the episode.

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Really don't know why you think that they would stop at volume 7 or 5 for that matter, just based on pacing. The first two took 4 episodes each, with volume three taking 5 episodes. And until they actually dice up the volumes, I find it hard for them to end before volume 6. And as a LN reader, I have no idea what you are talking about with a "cliffhanger" being the ending of volume 6.



Really feel surprised I have to explain this to another LN reader.
The funny thing is that I can unironically ask you this myself. Have YOU read the same LN I did? And so you even know the definition of "cliffhanger"?

What you wrote about the ending does not match the definition of the word, and I reread the ending, and it doesn't match either. So you're 0 for 2, pal.

So yes, they CAN end it on volume 6. And where the fuck did you hear that there was going to be a season 2?

Again unironically guy oing to say what you said to me...Really feel surprised I have to explain this to another LN reader.

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Who's they? I can pull the "unnamed sources tell me" card out of my ass, too.
You already here, "No, they said that she will not be part of the MC's team permanently."




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Damn, a fantastic episode with some intense moments!
And yeah another scheme from Malty, i knew after Naofumi saved Melty they will managed to record and edit to make it be like a kidnap, but at same time i am happy that happened, cause Melty is now in Naofumi's side and now she knows what is happening, and also will be more easier to get Naofumi's trust!

Finally Ren is kinda starting to understand what Malty is doing trying to do, i suspect i will like him more futurely!

Raphtalia stabbing Malty in the back was wonderfully satisfying, unfortunately it wasn't a real sword!

Spear hero is hopeless... he can die with the bitch!

And i really want to believe in Melty about her father, but i hate him as much as Naofumi does!

Queen convoked Naofumi with her spie, i am glad he decided to go, i am so curious to see their meeting!

Melty was adorable asking Naofumi to call her by first name!
Raphtalia Jealously was cute <3

New OP and ED were perfect, and ED was specially to beautiful!
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All my thoughts have already been said before. Bitch still a fucking bitch, her getting stabbed in any capacity was great, Spear Hero forcing himself on Filo was fucking disgusting, and I'm glad Naofumi and co. aren't letting these fuckers get to them and are staying focused on what they're trying to do. Nice that Sword and Bow Hero saw bitch being an absolute bitch for themselves, and nice that Naofumi gave Ren that clue with the Church symbol.

The new OP reminded me of Steven Universe at times, especially the part where all his friends helped him hold his shield. Really symbolic.
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Very good, action-packed episode. Nice OP but the former is better, ED is as cute as the former. Malty is wicked!
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papsoshea said:
1. He's the typical loser who lives off his parents, doesn't have to work and enjoys the idyllic otaku life. He's not the typical shut-in nerd because when he runs out of money, he occasionally wonders outside of his room and heads to the library to browse at light novels. "I was completely the run-of-the-mill otaku." But his boring life changed when he discovered that book. Upon entering the world, he was the actual loser but that quickly changed, didn't it?

And yet, we see someone like Kazuma from KonoSuba where he mostly secludes himself in his room. He hardly goes outdoors unless he's getting some new game. Naofumi isn't like that. He actually goes outside.

2. This has been explained time and time again. The one who is going to use mental gymnastic here is you when it comes to this. He's depicted as cool by virtue of being tough, dark, or badass in the most cringe-inducing way possible, basically cutting himself in the sharpness of his own edge. The scene when he enters the rage mode, these are literally the panels.

That is your opinion, though. This is not a fact.

3. But I'm not lying, you are. Show us where Naofumi was defeated and Glass won, because she didn't. And ended in stalemate. The wave finished, she couldn't finish off Naofumi.

Winning against a powerful enemy and being overpowered are two completely independent things.

He deflected her attacks.

In which he was fortunate enough to block the last attack because Glass was too far away to penetrate his defense.

If three entire parties can’t even land a single hit, it’s pretty much a foregone conclusion that Naofumi and his loli warriors won’t be able to do anything either. But was that the case? Nope, Naofumi actually battled her, came up with and executed tactics, deflected her moves from close range albeit his defense got penetrated at such close range and one more shot, he would've taken serious damage and long range in which Glass admitted that her tortoise shell cracker attack wasn't as effective at longer range while all 3 heroes and their parties were swatted like flies. What do you call that?

It's as you just said. Naofumi was being tactical. And this is because Naofumi doesn't treat the world like a game. Meanwhile, all the other 3 heroes treat the world as if it's just like the game they played in their Japans. You literally hear them say "Well, in the game I played, you have to do this". There is actually a reason why their tactics are so poor.

In Episode 5, Naofumi began learning magic through reading grimoires. Meanwhile, all the other heroes learned magic through crystal balls. It's like learning new abilities through increasing one's aptitude vs. slapping a TM on. For the former, you have to put in the effort whereas the latter, while far quicker, doesn't increase the user's aptitude.

That is why he is stronger than the other 3 heroes. Not because he is overpowered. What you're pushing is an Affirming the Consequent fallacy.

"Main characters who are more powerful than other characters are overpowered"
"Naofumi is more powerful than the other heroes"
"Therefore, he is overpowered"

I can literally bring up 3 occasions in each season of Sword Art Online, and by using your logic, Kirito isn't OP either. You're the one who is coming up with mental gymnastics in denying the fact that he has won all his battles easily due to his power. His power is also rare that allows him to heal others, his powers allowed him to walk through attacks (in episode 7, I believe, or around that time).

Kirito is overpowered because he pulls out special abilities out of his butt in the most convenient times. One prime example was when he first used his dual-wield ability. What a coincidence that he has such a handy ability to overcome the Gleam Eyes when the situation became dire. We don't see the process of how he got to that point, hence why it feels unearned. SAO didn't show how Kirito became such an elite player.

In contrast, we do see Naofumi learning new abilities by feeding materials to his shield. We see him read grimoires so he can learn new magic. In Ep 6, he learned how to craft from helping a merchant out and was able to gain connections through that merchant.

4. The church and royalty aren't the whole world though, this anime was advertised in be a story where the MC isn't liked and he will have a tough time, which literally lasted 3 episodes. After, he is the savior where everything comes easy for him and is always given the high moral ground. That's the foundation, and that's bad writing. It's backed up with the fact that if the rape accusation never takes place, then what? It needed that specific hook.

The setting takes some inspiration from medieval times where royalty and religion are deeply connected to each other. Melromarc's official religion was stated to be the Church of the 3 Heroes.

Ha, everything comes easy for him and yet he had to go into hiding in this episode! And the reason why it appears everything comes easy for him was because he frequently traveled outside the capital, where the political influence is significantly lower.

If Goku was OP, he would've beaten Jiren by himself with no help. What kind of logic is that? Point 3 explains it all.

I don't see what's wrong with claiming that Goku would be OP if be beat Jiren unassisted. If he just mastered UI just like that, then that would be contrived. However, it took time for him to reach to that point and even then, it actually took a toll on him. He was in MUI for too long. As a result, he needed Frieza and 17's help to beat Jiren.

You already here, "No, they said that she will not be part of the MC's team permanently."

Permanently means being with the MC for the rest of the series. If Melty does not travel with the party, then her stay is not permanent. And I can confirm that having read the manga.

So no, I am not part of "them". Sounds like the case of unnamed source-itis.

Disagree. And I watched the ED2 and it doesn't mean what you said. But it does remind me of how Raphtalia only viewed Naofumi as a parent figure and did not like him romantically, yeah that went out the window.

There's nothing to disagree. It's a fact.

Haganai OP - All the seiyuus for each female character sing in it.
Trinity Seven OP - The MC is shown with all the female characters standing next to him.
Infinite Stratos ED's - All the seiyuus for each female character sing in them.
KonoSuba ED's - Aqua, Megumin, and Darkness's seiyuus sing in them.
Shinmai Maou no Testament OP - The MC is shown with all the female characters standing next to him.
Souzou Diary in Nisekoi - All the seiyuus for each female character sing in the song. In the other ED's, the seiyuu of one of the female characters would sing the ED.

Obviously you don't, but glad to know it upsets you. This is why you felt the need to reply to me.

More like you've progressively become more deranged as each episode airs. As a result, you have to make stuff up to make yourself appear sane, but it only ends up biting you back as demonstrated by your pathological lying.

Here is the justice porn from the previous episode:


Ah, the case of if I say "justice porn" several times, it will become true. Uh no, Naofumi was able to fare better against Glass because he actually put in effort (reading grimoires vs. the "TM" crystal balls) and used better tactics, i.e. not being bound to the logic of a game he played back in Japan.

Naofumi mocks the king because the king tried screwing him over several times like taking Raphtalia away from him, docking his reward money, and threatening to harm Raphtalia and Filo.

He's cold to Melty because he doesn't trust royalty. That's it.

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Gotta love how they turned Raphtalia into Dio


Sadly we didn't get CrotchShot™ 3.0 , and the blow Raphtalia landed wasn't fatal :( .
Kewl episode , though I don't know how much they'll adapt since we got to see
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That's genius lol, I laugh so much when I saw it XD

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lmao. This sequence cracks me up every time.

As for Naofumi being OP, it's worse than that. He is exactly what the plot needs him to be at any given moment. He can't be obviously OP all the time, or the whole boo-hoo-victim charade would be an even tougher sell than it already is.

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That red head bitch better get slaughtered some point soon. I'm really not gonna be happy if she's still alive by the end of the series. Once again it's pretty stupid how all the sheep, er guards, listen to everything dumb bitch says but ignore everything Melty says. Like m8s did you forget she's gonna be the next queen??? Why does everything Melty say have no weight?
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papsoshea said:
VeryLTTP said:
He's the typical non-hardware otaku who's in university. That's quite different from a loser.
1. He's the typical loser who lives off his parents, doesn't have to work and enjoys the idyllic otaku life. He's not the typical shut-in nerd because when he runs out of money, he occasionally wonders outside of his room and heads to the library to browse at light novels. "I was completely the run-of-the-mill otaku." But his boring life changed when he discovered that book. Upon entering the world, he was the actual loser but that quickly changed, didn't it?

VeryLTTP said:
What's an edgelord? Funny how this is one of the most commonly thrown buzzwords around, but no one has really bothered to explain.
2. This has been explained time and time again. The one who is going to use mental gymnastic here is you when it comes to this. He's depicted as cool by virtue of being tough, dark, or badass in the most cringe-inducing way possible, basically cutting himself in the sharpness of his own edge. The scene when he enters the rage mode, these are literally the panels.



VeryLTTP said:
Lol, the fact that you have to outright lie makes a significant portion of your comment invalid.
3. But I'm not lying, you are. Show us where Naofumi was defeated and Glass won, because she didn't. And ended in stalemate. The wave finished, she couldn't finish off Naofumi. He deflected her attacks. If three entire parties can’t even land a single hit, it’s pretty much a foregone conclusion that Naofumi and his loli warriors won’t be able to do anything either. But was that the case? Nope, Naofumi actually battled her, came up with and executed tactics, deflected her moves from close range and long range while all 3 heroes and their parties were swatted like flies. What do you call that? I can literally bring up 3 occasions in each season of Sword Art Online, and by using your logic, Kirito isn't OP either. You're the one who is coming up with mental gymnastics in denying the fact that he has won all his battles easily due to his power. His power is also rare that allows him to heal others, his powers allowed him to walk through attacks (in episode 7, I believe, or around that time).

VeryLTTP said:
Uh, because there are still some people who hate his guts quite a bit, particularly the church of the 3 heroes? If, all of a sudden, the capital loves the Shield Hero, then that's way worse. Yeah, the church will all of a sudden see the error of their ways and establish a new religion out of the kindness of their hearts. See, that will be actual bad writing.
4. The church and royalty aren't the whole world though, this anime was advertised in be a story where the MC isn't liked and he will have a tough time, which literally lasted 3 episodes. After, he is the savior where everything comes easy for him and is always given the high moral ground. That's the foundation, and that's bad writing. It's backed up with the fact that if the rape accusation never takes place, then what? It needed that specific hook.

VeryLTTP said:
If he's OP, then he would've beaten Glass, period. If he's OP, then Glass wouldn't have broken through Iron Maiden with no damage. The fact that you have to resort to immense mental gymnastics makes your, if I may use one of the overused buzzwords, hate boner, for the series all the more hilarious.
If Goku was OP, he would've beaten Jiren by himself with no help. What kind of logic is that? Point 3 explains it all.

VeryLTTP said:
Who's they? I can pull the "unnamed sources tell me" card out of my ass, too.
You already here, "No, they said that she will not be part of the MC's team permanently."

VeryLTTP said:
Yes, because watch the OP's and ED's of actual harem anime. A common thing done in harem anime OP's and ED's: the voice actresses of the harem singing together. Meanwhile, only Raphtalia and Naofumi are featured in ED2 even though Filo and Melty are also a prominent characters.
Disagree. And I watched the ED2 and it doesn't mean what you said. But it does remind me of how Raphtalia only viewed Naofumi as a parent figure and did not like him romantically, yeah that went out the window.

VeryLTTP said:
You keep using that phrase, I don't think it means what you think it means.
Obviously you don't, but glad to know it upsets you. This is why you felt the need to reply to me.

Here is the justice porn from the previous episode:



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Aniteku said:
i actualy have the LN and doesnt end like that at all. Also mc not op his better then other heroes? yes, but


Now i do agree that anime did make up the "mate" thing with filo bc in LN it looks more like filo and melty have a thing for each other. But again your kinda not wrong calling other people lier bc i have read some fans saying stuff that i have no clue about. Im a LN reader/anime only havent check the manga or WN but in LN tells the story in naofumi pov maybe is why the manga and anime seams a bit off.
Feel free to spoil me (in a spoiler tab of course) and tell me if these things have happened.



Sorry, but not buying that shit about Naofumi not being OP. I explained why above to another user. Plus, all Glass did in episode 12 showed how great Naofumi is. Saying he's the only one worthy of being called a hero. Complimenting him for deflecting her attacks. Being pissed off that she wasn't able to finish him. And him being the MC, it's 1 + 1 = 2. Same thing as the whole harem shit. People like to come up with all these different versions of a harem, its like they are ashamed that Shield Hero eventually gets one and tries to hide the fact by denying it. You know in Goblin Slayer, Cowgirl isn't a part of GS's main group, yet she's a part of his harem. The Guild girl isn't a part of GS's main group, yet she's a part of his harem. The Sword Maiden isn't a part of GS's main group, yet she's a part of his harem. These characters don't have ample screen time, sometimes, not even shown in episodes, but that doesn't mean they aren't a part of his harem. The harem tropes are written all over those girls and they have waifu wars to fight for GS's attention. If it takes a second season to get there, then so be it, doesn't change my view on it. And thanks for also noticing some fans lying. Maybe you should read the manga, so you can tell how different the two are because I have a fair idea about the WN.

Btw LN isnt finnish is still on vol 13 and vol 21 in japan

Also true about even has offscreen characters can still be apart of his harem but really melty and filo will be more interest in each other then naofumi at least in LN. Also i have no problem with harem anime some of my fav are, and i pretty sure harem sells in japan mayne by they kinda making look like in anime. 1 more thing i did start this series with manga vol 1 but i dint like it at all, felt rushed and dint have that many details also dint like the art . And in LN actualy know what naofumi really thinking inside his head
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Damn those are some mad editing skills they got and they don't even have computers. I love the new op song.
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The idea of a "Brainwashing shield" isn't that incredible when one considers Naofumi's swiss-army powers.

-He's got a rope shield (that acts as a rope)

-A shield that buffs potions

-A shield that amplifies noise.

-A shield that let's him Yoshi-Jump (Air Strike Shield)

-The Rage Shield that lets him attack....

It's probably only a matter of time before Naofumi gets the shield of brainwashing.
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papsoshea said:
VeryLTTP said:
He's the typical non-hardware otaku who's in university. That's quite different from a loser.
1. He's the typical loser who lives off his parents, doesn't have to work and enjoys the idyllic otaku life. He's not the typical shut-in nerd because when he runs out of money, he occasionally wonders outside of his room and heads to the library to browse at light novels. "I was completely the run-of-the-mill otaku." But his boring life changed when he discovered that book. Upon entering the world, he was the actual loser but that quickly changed, didn't it?

VeryLTTP said:
What's an edgelord? Funny how this is one of the
most commonly thrown buzzwords around, but no one has really bothered to explain.
2. This has been explained time and time again. The one who is going to use mental gymnastic here is you when it comes to this. He's depicted as cool by virtue of being tough, dark, or badass in the most cringe-inducing way possible, basically cutting himself in the sharpness of his own edge. The scene when he enters the rage mode, these are literally the panels.



VeryLTTP said:
Lol, the fact that you have to outright lie makes a significant portion of your comment invalid.
3. But I'm not lying, you are. Show us where Naofumi was defeated and Glass won, because she didn't. And ended in stalemate. The wave finished, she couldn't finish off Naofumi. He deflected her attacks. If three entire parties can’t even land a single hit, it’s pretty much a foregone conclusion that Naofumi and his loli warriors won’t be able to do anything either. But was that the case? Nope, Naofumi actually battled her, came up with and executed tactics, deflected her moves from close range and long range while all 3 heroes and their parties were swatted like flies. What do you call that? I can literally bring up 3 occasions in each season of Sword Art Online, and by using your logic, Kirito isn't OP either. You're the one who is coming up with mental gymnastics in denying the fact that he has won all his battles easily due to his power. His power is also rare that allows him to heal others, his powers allowed him to walk through attacks (in episode 7, I believe, or around that time).

VeryLTTP said:
Uh, because there are still some people who hate his guts quite a bit, particularly the church of the 3 heroes? If, all of a sudden, the capital loves the Shield Hero, then that's way worse. Yeah, the church will all of a sudden see the error of their ways and establish a new religion out of the kindness of their hearts. See, that will be actual bad writing.
4. The church and royalty aren't the whole world though, this anime was advertised in be a story where the MC isn't liked and he will have a tough time, which literally lasted 3 episodes. After, he is the savior where everything comes easy for him and is always given the high moral ground. That's the foundation, and that's bad writing. It's backed up with the fact that if the rape accusation never takes place, then what? It needed that specific hook.

VeryLTTP said:
If he's OP, then he would've beaten Glass, period. If he's OP, then Glass wouldn't have broken through Iron Maiden with no damage. The fact that you have to resort to immense mental gymnastics makes your, if I may use one of the overused buzzwords, hate boner, for the series all the more hilarious.
If Goku was OP, he would've beaten Jiren by himself with no help. What kind of logic is that? Point 3 explains it all.

VeryLTTP said:
Who's they? I can pull the "unnamed sources tell me" card out of my ass, too.
You already here, "No, they said that she will not be part of the MC's team permanently."

VeryLTTP said:
Yes, because watch the OP's and ED's of actual harem anime. A common thing done in harem anime OP's and ED's: the voice actresses of the harem singing together. Meanwhile, only Raphtalia and Naofumi are featured in ED2 even though Filo and Melty are also a prominent characters.
Disagree. And I watched the ED2 and it doesn't mean what you said. But it does remind me of how Raphtalia only viewed Naofumi as a parent figure and did not like him romantically, yeah that went out the window.

VeryLTTP said:
You keep using that phrase, I don't think it means what you think it means.
Obviously you don't, but glad to know it upsets you. This is why you felt the need to reply to me.

Here is the justice porn from the previous episode:



-----

Aniteku said:
i actualy have the LN and doesnt end like that at all. Also mc not op his better then other heroes? yes, but


Now i do agree that anime did make up the "mate" thing with filo bc in LN it looks more like filo and melty have a thing for each other. But again your kinda not wrong calling other people lier bc i have read some fans saying stuff that i have no clue about. Im a LN reader/anime only havent check the manga or WN but in LN tells the story in naofumi pov maybe is why the manga and anime seams a bit off.
Feel free to spoil me (in a spoiler tab of course) and tell me if these things have happened.



Sorry, but not buying that shit about Naofumi not being OP. I explained why above to another user. Plus, all Glass did in episode 12 showed how great Naofumi is. Saying he's the only one worthy of being called a hero. Complimenting him for deflecting her attacks. Being pissed off that she wasn't able to finish him. And him being the MC, it's 1 + 1 = 2. Same thing as the whole harem shit. People like to come up with all these different versions of a harem, its like they are ashamed that Shield Hero eventually gets one and tries to hide the fact by denying it. You know in Goblin Slayer, Cowgirl isn't a part of GS's main group, yet she's a part of his harem. The Guild girl isn't a part of GS's main group, yet she's a part of his harem. The Sword Maiden isn't a part of GS's main group, yet she's a part of his harem. These characters don't have ample screen time, sometimes, not even shown in episodes, but that doesn't mean they aren't a part of his harem. The harem tropes are written all over those girls and they have waifu wars to fight for GS's attention. If it takes a second season to get there, then so be it, doesn't change my view on it. And thanks for also noticing some fans lying. Maybe you should read the manga, so you can tell how different the two are because I have a fair idea about the WN.

1. Why do americans think people living with their parents are dumb? I think the opposite: going deep into debt just to prove some stupid concept is dumb. Until you advance in the career enough is better to stay with them and avoid random relationships. Until you are secure they will lead nowhere anyway.
4. The church and royalty have both political and media control over the country. Just look at the disinformation campaign they started. What I am wondering is why they bothered to attack him in the first place. They could create the fake footage from scratch I think.
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New OP with more visual quality and even a more hype song? Hell yeah! The ED is just as relaxing as the first one.

Malty, that bitch has gone even further by not only staging her sister's assassination but to also spread bs lies that the Shield hero party are cold-blooded murderers thanks to some photoshop-editing magic and some broadcasting/projecting magic. Now, most if not the whole country believes that they're bad and evil. The only sensible choice now is to actually leave the country.

So, the Queen is stronger in Melromarc since they're a matrilinear monarchy? If the Queen is on Naofumi's side, then she could scold the King's ass back to being a commoner. Why she lives separately from the Queen, I don't know, but there's always something going on.

they got surrounded

Yet again, some bs lies that Malty bitch spouts out about mind controlling shield power, smfh. Of course the other 3 heroes and especially Motoyasu, the loli-abducting molester believes in such crap. However, I'm glad that at least the Sword and Bow hero are not confident in Malty's decision to kill Melty just because she's 'under mind-control'. She has become crazier than ever before now...
There's hope though. Ren, the sword hero, is by far the most intelligent out of the 3 heroes. So when Naofumi said he will be able to figure out what's going on, I believe he will.

Weekly dose of satisfaction: Raphtalia teleporting behind Malty, saying "Nothing personal kid." then *STAB* Unfortunately, that only zaps away her magic power temporarily. No physical damage was done.
Apr 3, 2019 9:52 PM
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Ah, the writing is so laughable at this point. Last 2-3 minutes of Melty trying to get Naofumi to call her by her name and Raphtalia being jealous of that was too cringe.

2/5 as always.
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so we have Spear boy even more blatantly becoming what he hates Naofumi being accused for, a molester...a lolicon molester in fact
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And he's being framed yet again...

They can even doctor the footage...that's some advanced magic....

Why Spear Hero why...

I hope one of these episodes has Captain Japan get a shield that reflects projectiles back at their shooters so that they can think twice before attacking him...

Raphtalia instantly jealous at hearing Shield Hero and Second Princess sharing first names...

So does Captain Japan choose to go to the Queen, or will he venture towards Siltvelt first? Well the forest fire blocks his path, so he's going to have to probably go to Siltvelt first..
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its just boring and predictable
im gonna go down with the score by -1 point for every episode that triggers me from now on 1-4 and this one were especially shit
the show is incapable of producing decent antagonists apart from glass who was there for 5 seconds

the spear hero is just the worst character in the history of characters
a pedophile zoophile moron, good job creating that character wow
and framed yet again, can we come up with something new?

adobe crystal ball photoshop gj

worst isekai i've seen
garbage hero

its disappointing dialogue messes with me, at this point im just watching because i want to see retribution and


this show just keeps making me want to hate on it and spread hate.
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Ahh of course, ye old magic after effects.

Then the standard "you don't understand but I cant words cause plot!"

Naofumi is just now realizing it's a matriarchal society? Really?

Myne really reminds me of that bitch from ousama game. Just a retarded, pointless antagonist surrounded by retards. Cause plot.

Melty officially added to harem

New OP is cool at least.
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papsoshea said:
Daphi said:
its just boring and predictable
im gonna go down with the score by -1 point for every episode that triggers me from now on 1-4 and this one were especially shit
the show is incapable of producing decent antagonists apart from glass who was there for 5 seconds

the spear hero is just the worst character in the history of characters
a pedophile zoophile moron, good job creating that character wow
and framed yet again, can we come up with something new?

adobe crystal ball photoshop gj

worst isekai i've seen
garbage hero

its disappointing dialogue messes with me, at this point im just watching because i want to see retribution and
I think this show is unintentionally hilarious for how bad it is. More people are starting to show their disappointment. When you really think about it, Glass isn't decent because her dialogue consists of making Naofumi the "cool guy" by mentioning that he is the only one worthy of being called a hero. And constantly complimented him. And you can see the author is into that creepy garbage of not only how he/she wrote the Spear Hero but also how Naofumi has these little loli's connected to him somehow, where they have the harem tropes slapped on their faces.


let me make something clear when i said "glass is decent" what i really meant is, "glass is decent if you compare her to the biggest garbage the animation industry has ever produced in terms of personality" , if you give my asshole a personality even he would be decent in comparison to the absolute garbage characters this show has otherwise

but yeah agree with you completely buddy xD

good point ur making regarding the author as well
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Why Spear Hero why...

Filo is an adorable birb, and Spear Hero caught her like a pokemon. Nothing creepy about that.

I mean this is after we've gone through a scene where Melty goes skinny dipping inside Filo's feathers.
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