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| This episode has only 1 appalling scene:D! Much better than the usual 3-8. It looks like this may become good again. I'm glad I stuck around. |
| boy thank goodnes the salve trader's business is booming thanks to naofumi and the gangs efforts besides that and Naofumi continuing to be insufferable it was decent set up liked that after all the havoc the other heroes have done they got called out on it and at least one reflected on his actions, also funny Melty turns out was sent in order to make good with our shield hero though he still has his trust issues |
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SSL443 said: Demyx_IX said: There are hints that the church is involved with it. Given how the nun/sister from last episode acted and tried to give Naofumi a low quality of holy water. And then how the shield is missing from the church. Also pay attention to what the pope says to Naofumi when he leaves. Of course they're involved, but who have they indoctrinated? Naofumi hasn't had any trouble getting the common rabble on his side. You're not wrong about that, but that also has to do with the fact that he's been going around doing good things, even though he's been emo and asshole/dick-ish the whole time. |
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SSL443 said: Really? I thought it was only the nobles and some of the royal family that were against him. Seems like the fans can't keep their story straight. This dude was inconvenienced for perhaps a couple weeks, but he goes around acting like he had it worse than Jean Valjean from Les Miserables. Huge chip on his shoulder for no reason. FYI,its not only the nobles and King and 2nd princess that are against him,though saying why he's so persecuted would be a spoiler. Also,if you were basically accused of rape for no reason,I think you'd have a huge chip on your shoulder as well,and he wasn't just inconvenienced,he had all his money taken from him,his clothes taken,he was looked down upon by nearly all,basically,he probably felt like his life as a hero wasn't worth all the shit he'd had,and it wasn't just for a couple of weeks,it was quite a while longer,but the anime makes it look like it only happened in short order. |
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Playcool said: HereticHunter said: Its not a matter of "getting used to" This story doesn't need a harem to be told. You know you could say that to many, many series right? It is not about what you want, but what there is. Even the WN was filled of lots of girls around MC later on. I m just telling you the truth, MC will have an increasing amount of squadmembers, and many of those will see him on a more favorable "light". That doesnt mean this is what the focus on the story is. Bro, we talked about this before, even CS series has a freaking harem if you are real about it, yet the plot is still told right?! Very few plots written nowadays (IF from japan) have just 1 or 2 females goes at it for the MC. Oh Snap, for a moment I didn't notice it was you lol. What I mean by that is that it feels out of place to me, specially because a friend that knows the source constantly tells me that Raph isn't like that, that she starts falling for Naofumi after several chapters instead of how they have been forcing a love triangle lately that features 2 kids. It doesn't necessarily has to hurt the story, there may be times that work (like CS for example, since it has a strong focus on world building and atmosphere) On this episode, we got to know about Class Ascension, Kingdoms, Consequences from Bow and Sword hero, Naofumi confronting them, loyalty from those soldiers that wanted to be by his side and probably plenty more, it even have some harem time when Naofumi was healing Raph and Filo got Jealous, but it was slight and it was done in a minute. My displease is that the SoL moments where having the spotlight and episodes like the Rotten Dragon got rushed. |
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Starhammer said: FYI,its not only the nobles and King and 2nd princess that are against him,though saying why he's so persecuted would be a spoiler. Also,if you were basically accused of rape for no reason,I think you'd have a huge chip on your shoulder as well,and he wasn't just inconvenienced,he had all his money taken from him,his clothes taken,he was looked down upon by nearly all,basically,he probably felt like his life as a hero wasn't worth all the shit he'd had,and it wasn't just for a couple of weeks,it was quite a while longer,but the anime makes it look like it only happened in short order. Well you see, I thought it was everyone that was against him; but then posters on here told me that it was just the upper echelons of the ruling class. So I'm getting mixed messages. The amount of hardship that he faced was minimal. It took him days, a couple weeks at most, to be back on his feet financially and ready for the wave in ample time. At no point was Naofumi depicted as struggling to meet basic needs like food, clothing, or shelter. The effect of "everyone" being against him is that a couple people looked at him askance and muttered behind his back. Sorry, but the storytelling completely failed at showing a degree of hardship commensurate with his dour attitude at this point in the narrative. Demyx_IX said: You're not wrong about that, but that also has to do with the fact that he's been going around doing good things, even though he's been emo and asshole/dick-ish the whole time. Sure, but it's not like he had to go out of his way. As a legendary hero he was going to be doing "good things" regardless. |
| I like this show but it's the 10th ep but nothing really happens. When i saw Naofumi rejected the princess i thought there would be something but she was just there for 10s and then things go normal again. |
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| I feel really bad for Melty but i also understand Naofumi, and i think that Melty probably doesn't know the whole story. And i'm glad that her mother understood his reaction and told that it will take some time. I still don't get why does her mom look like she is locked, yet she has more authority than the king xD And i wonder how a little girl would change the king's attitude xD The only thing i can think of is if in their Kingdom, the queen is more important. Finally, Naofumi confronted the 2 heroes that thought they were doing a good job! What a great moment! I feel kinda bad for the other guy because he apologized because he thought that he was doing a good job by helping people but he never stopped to think about the consequences, but the bow hero was just dumb, he thinks Naofumi cares about his jobs or his money. I feel bad for Raphtalia :( She can't even tell that she loves him, Filo is constantly getting in her way...getting a little annoying to be honest. I was expecting that Naofumi wouldn't accept their money, he is getting better by each episode! And i am glad he took them to his party. Now next episode!!! oh boy! The hype!!! |
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SSL443 said: nightcrawlercyp said: True, but the church can indoctrinate people with their message. But it hasn't. You can't defend the show with hypoetheticals. It actually has... and you see evidence of it here and there. It's just not spelled out for you. For example, the nun tried to cheat the Shield hero with the poor holy water. And people's reactions to him are assumed by the viewer to be based solely on the rape accusation, but that's a red herring to the fact that the country is anti-shield. The show is following along the web novels habit of giving you tidbits, but being vague about the answer, so that when it's all revealed you think back to the events with this new information and go "Ah ha! That makes so much more sense now" I'll be the first to say the show hold it's cards a little TOO close to its chest... skimping on information a bit TOO much, but enough of it is still there. |
| This message is for every person I've seen mention "wave 2" The up coming wave is "Wave 3" Wave 1 happened before the show started, Wave 2 happened in episode 3, and the next episode is wave 3 in earnest. |
| Pretty good. Kinda wanted to see the girls get a new class spec or whatever so feelsbadman. At the same time those brain dead sheep were probably overcharging anyway. We've had signs of sword and bow hero not being total idiots in the past so it's nice to see that swordy is actually a decent person and bow man will probably come around pretty soon. |
| Another riveting episode. Some people here have the weirdest complaints and strangest expectations. FYI, the Spider-Man joke was a liberal translation. The actual literal reference was to a famous line spoken by an elderly lord from the long-running jidaigeki drama, Mito Kōmon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mito_Kōmon Draconalis said: The show is following along the web novels habit of giving you tidbits, but being vague about the answer, so that when it's all revealed you think back to the events with this new information and go "Ah ha! That makes so much more sense now" I absolutely love these kinds of shows. You have to actually think for yourself and give the show the benefit of the doubt. Also, rewatches are all the sweeter. |
ActarMar 13, 2019 9:57 PM
| This Kingdom is really scum! they won't let you class upgrade!? what do they want? a hero that will left them all for dead! this show does really a good job in pissing anyone out! Well that was a bit nice! Naofumi now has followers! i hope they're useful against the upcoming wave! I like now Naofumi confront Ren & Itsuki! the two looked like idiots! good for them! haha... No Melty scene this episode huh...i wonder she'll manage the expectations of her mother the Queen... 5/5. |
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| Yeah that start remembered me about me feeling bad for Melty being rejected by Naofumi, but as i told in last episode discussion, i understand Naofumi's reasons, and i am glad that the Queen understands him, and also is a test for Melty surpass if she is going to be the next ruler! Raphtalia almost confessed her love for Naofumi, but Filo had to got again in her way, it was trully sad, poor Raphtalia! Was awesome when Naofumi confronted sword and bow heroes, they didn't cared about the consequences of their works, sword trusted Naofumi and had teh consicience to apologized, but bow hero was really dumb! Was interesting Naofumi getting some new allies in ehr party, and i am glad that Naofumi didn't acept their money, i was with a good feeling about that! Can't wait for next episode! Wave returns! |
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| Rejected for class upgrades? Eww...Guess they'll have to hold out during the next wave until they can travel up north to find a city that allows them to get the upgrade. Large Kids Meal! Bow Hero saying that Captain Japan impersonating him when he should know that Captain Japan can't wield bows especially when the villagers said it was a hero with a bow who saved them... Level 21-25 mercenaries. 3 Footmen and 2 casters. Well Captain Japan's got allies now. I hope he can protect them in the incoming wave. He may not trust them, but he's going to need all the help he can get since his party has no upgrades. So the Queen is on Captain Japan's side. Of course it's going to be a while until she convinces him that. Next wave incoming. Here we go! |
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| Great episode, that Glass teaser tho!!!! |
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| The slave trader is more likeable and trustworthy than the church. Not that I'm surprised. Seeing the famished people and hearing their story was harsh. That the new leadership will turn out to be just as bad as the previous one is most of the time the case. Well done, Itsuki. Naofumi giving Itsuki and Ren a lecture, like the children they are, was satisfying. |
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Draconalis said: It actually has... and you see evidence of it here and there. It's just not spelled out for you. It actually hasn't... because there isn't any evidence of how the church interacts with the common people. If you mean the church is indoctrinating its own people... maybe but questionable. but that's a red herring to the fact that the country is anti-shield. Which as I've said before is a stupid reveal for the sake of having some big mystery looming in the background. If people are being indoctrinated against the shield hero left and right it makes no sense for it to be a secret; and if it is a secret for some inane reason, then it isn't possible to indoctrinate people. Tentaman said: Its no use bro. He is here every episode thread with only negative things to say about it. Its useless trying to argue with him. Just ignore it. If you read my posts instead of being just another triggered fanboy, you'd know that I have actually acknowledged good things when I see them. Problem is that they are few and far between. |
SSL443 said: If you read my posts instead of being just another triggered fanboy, you'd know that I have actually acknowledged good things when I see them. Problem is that they are few and far between. I've read some of your posts in different threads in this show but seems like the majority of it is negative things about this show. Sure there are flaws but there are more positive things to discuss instead of that scene where the 2 heroes is already there in that restaurant with Naofumi's party, the more important part is there, Naofumi telling the other heroes what happened to the villages that they saved. I know we can differ opinions and we can post our opinions here in the forums but I'm getting sick of your whining every episode. Many things in this show works for me but not for you. This show is really not for you, I think it's better for you to drop it. |
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| Hmmm... Speaking mention about second wave and the appeared of new character name Glass, this is the firsr most anticipated battle that will Naofumi will be released the curse of shield wrath not only lvl 1 but ja can released by lvl 2... If my guessing is correct, the story in take 2-3 episodes depending what the production will be going for this story arc... |
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SSL443 said: If you read my posts instead of being just another triggered fanboy, you'd know that I have actually acknowledged good things when I see them. Problem is that they are few and far between. Why don't you just drop the anime already? cmon man |
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Tarotist said: Large Kids Meal! Level 21-25 mercenaries. 3 Footmen and 2 casters. Well Captain Japan's got allies now. I hope he can protect them in the incoming wave. He may not trust them, but he's going to need all the help he can get since his party has no upgrades. So the Queen is on Captain Japan's side. Of course it's going to be a while until she convinces him that. Next wave incoming. Here we go! Speaking the five soldiers or rather called it demi - human soldiers that I want to little spoiled..let me guessed they want to assist the villagers and protected against the monster specially inside the village... |
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024 said: SSL443 said: If you read my posts instead of being just another triggered fanboy, you'd know that I have actually acknowledged good things when I see them. Problem is that they are few and far between. Why don't you just drop the anime already? cmon man Wait a minute I remember that you saying the word "fanboy"... You are the commentator who love negative comments no only In shield hero but the other anime like " Kaguya sama, Dororo, and TPNL", specially in Ranking in Anime trending fanpage.... If my guess is correct... I give you an advice, watch you mouth and you're fingers in writing you're comment badly... The other commentators are already angry to you... |
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Cleckeroo said: What's the point in a discussion with people just regurgitating the same opinion over and over again? If there isn't a dissenting opinion, then it just turns into a circle-jerk with little to no actual discussion.SSL443 said: If you read my posts instead of being just another triggered fanboy, you'd know that I have actually acknowledged good things when I see them. Problem is that they are few and far between. I've read some of your posts in different threads in this show but seems like the majority of it is negative things about this show. Sure there are flaws but there are more positive things to discuss instead of that scene where the 2 heroes are already there in that restaurant with Naofumi's party, the more important part is there, Naofumi telling the other heroes what happened to the villages that they saved. I know we can differ opinions and we can post our opinions here in the forums but I'm getting sick of your whining every episode. Many things in this show work for me but not for you. This show is really not for you, I think it's better for you to drop it. |
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| I am curious is the holly water from the second bottle also fake or Raphtalia curse can't be lifted that easily? Also why Naofumi haven't noticed yet that this doesn't work since he is doing the treatment of the wounds? Draconalis said: Wave 1 happened before the show started, Wave 2 happened in episode 3, and the next episode is wave 3 in earnest. Was this mentioned in the show? |
DumpsterKing said: Cleckeroo said: What's the point in a discussion with people just regurgitating the same opinion over and over again? If there isn't a dissenting opinion, then it just turns into a circle-jerk with little to no actual discussion.I've read some of your posts in different threads in this show but seems like the majority of it is negative things about this show. Sure there are flaws but there are more positive things to discuss instead of that scene where the 2 heroes are already there in that restaurant with Naofumi's party, the more important part is there, Naofumi telling the other heroes what happened to the villages that they saved. I know we can differ opinions and we can post our opinions here in the forums but I'm getting sick of your whining every episode. Many things in this show work for me but not for you. This show is really not for you, I think it's better for you to drop it. I'm totally fine with differing opinions but the fact that he even point out that tiny detail and criticize it for lazy writing then he should drop it. I'm okay with comments about "Shield Hero is becoming a generic isekai harem" thing but that? No way man he really should drop the series. |
alshu said: I am curious is the holly water from the second bottle also fake or Raphtalia curse can't be lifted that easily? Also why Naofumi haven't noticed yet that this doesn't work since he is doing the treatment of the wounds? Draconalis said: Wave 1 happened before the show started, Wave 2 happened in episode 3, and the next episode is wave 3 in earnest. Was this mentioned in the show? Yes, remember Raphtalia's hometown in episode 2? |
I thought this was some random non-wave monsters killing her family. Also I was under the impression that this happened 2-3 years ago (Raphtalia being 7 not 10)? Are the waves that random or this was months before the story started? |
alshu said: I thought this was some random non-wave monster killing her family. Also I was under the impression that this happened 2-3 years ago (Raphtalia being 7 not 10)? Are the waves that random or this was months before the story started? Yep months before the summoning of heroes. |
| Seems everyone's still making the shield Hero's life difficult. While he also rejects the help of those that want to help him, making things even more difficult for himself. Slow episode but seems next week will be more exciting again! |
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Do you remember this because already knew the story? For me the anime is a bit disorienting showing stuff like that. (Stuff on which as the idea goes we must guess and speculated with.) I think at this point I dindn't know how the wave portals look thus didn't identify it as wave raid thus didn't remember it as such. |
alshuMar 14, 2019 3:10 AM
alshu said: Do you remember this because already knew the story? For me the anime is a bit disorienting showing this. I think at this point I dindn't know how the wave portals look thus didn't identify it as wave raid thus didn't remember it as such. I already know the story but you didn't need to read the LN for that because it is mentioned in episode 2. I wont tell you additional details about the wave because that's a spoiler. |
| Was that an actual Spiderman reference or were the subs fucking with me? My poor chicken girl cried because she can't hang out with her bff, Melty, anymore :( Naofumi is just an awesome guy. Yes, he has his flaws but considering how that world fucked him up I would want to get everything done and just leave. He asked those guys to gather money but in the end it was used for their own benefit. He helped out the starving villagers,one guy was even giving his ladle, probably his only valuable thing left. :( FUCK THE OTHER HEROES. FUCK PEDO SPEAR. FUCK SWORD. FUCK BOW AND ARROW, |
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Cleckeroo said: I already know the story but you didn't need to read the LN for that because it is mentioned in episode 2. The thing is that I have forgotten it (or more exactly misremembered it as a different thing)...this is majorly my fault but it would help if the anime was putting a bit more accent on key plot points like that and not on Filo's shenanigans and Raphtalia's waving tail. You know if they really want us to guess and speculated on hints. Cleckeroo said: I wont tell you additional details about the wave because that's a spoiler. I am not asking for spoilers am I? |
alshu said: Cleckeroo said: I already know the story but you didn't need to read the LN for that because it is mentioned in episode 2. The thing is that I have forgotten it (or more exactly misremembered it as a different thing)...this is majorly my fault but it would help if the anime was putting a bit more accent on key plot points like that and not on Filo's shenanigans and Raphtalia's waving tail. You know if they really want us to guess and speculated on hints. Cleckeroo said: I wont tell you additional details about the wave because that's a spoiler. I am not asking for spoilers am I? Nah I disagree with that, I think those episodes are quite important too because it shows their relationship to each other. My bad for that, I misunderstand it. |
CleckerooMar 14, 2019 3:40 AM
| I feel like Naofumi's new friends will die because they are neither females nor properly designed. However, I hope they live. The Kirito of this anime is smart enough to realise his mistakes. I am liking him. I had so much to say but I can't remember anything. The part where they wasted food made me kind of mad. |
Cleckeroo said: I disagree with that, I think those episodes are quite important too because it shows their relationship to each other. Those relationships are kind of obvious but I don't comment on how many time is invested for them but how little accent is putted on the fact there are some dots to connect. Sometimes I forget the dots themselves. Usually such shows say more clearly "There is a puzzle to solve somewhere here". Cleckeroo said: My bad for that, I misunderstand it. Actually I am more interested to be spoiled about why the holly water doesn't work. |
alshu said: Cleckeroo said: I disagree with that, I think those episodes are quite important too because it shows their relationship to each other. Those relationships are kind of obvious but I don't comment on how many time is invested for them but how little accent is putted on the fact there are some dots to connect. Sometimes I forget the dots themselves. Usually such shows say more clearly "There is a puzzle to solve somewhere here". Cleckeroo said: My bad for that, I misunderstand it. Actually I am more interested to be spoiled about why the holly water doesn't work. Those episodes are mainly for Naofumi cleaning up the heroes' mess and relationship development, for me it's a buildup for something bigger. The holy water is working, Raphtalia said that the areas with bondages soaked up with holy water heals faster. |
I was speaking in general not about episodes X to Y. Cleckeroo said: The holy water is working, Raphtalia said that the areas with bondages soaked up with holy water heals faster. Also the wounds on her head have disappeared but those on her hands have enlarged - some focus on that in the episode (or maybe a storyboard error?) ...thus I assumed that she is laying when trying to not worry Naofumi before the wave. |
HereticHunter said: Playcool said: You know you could say that to many, many series right? It is not about what you want, but what there is. Even the WN was filled of lots of girls around MC later on. I m just telling you the truth, MC will have an increasing amount of squadmembers, and many of those will see him on a more favorable "light". That doesnt mean this is what the focus on the story is. Bro, we talked about this before, even CS series has a freaking harem if you are real about it, yet the plot is still told right?! Very few plots written nowadays (IF from japan) have just 1 or 2 females goes at it for the MC. Oh Snap, for a moment I didn't notice it was you lol. What I mean by that is that it feels out of place to me, specially because a friend that knows the source constantly tells me that Raph isn't like that, that she starts falling for Naofumi after several chapters instead of how they have been forcing a love triangle lately that features 2 kids. It doesn't necessarily has to hurt the story, there may be times that work (like CS for example, since it has a strong focus on world building and atmosphere) On this episode, we got to know about Class Ascension, Kingdoms, Consequences from Bow and Sword hero, Naofumi confronting them, loyalty from those soldiers that wanted to be by his side and probably plenty more, it even have some harem time when Naofumi was healing Raph and Filo got Jealous, but it was slight and it was done in a minute. My displease is that the SoL moments where having the spotlight and episodes like the Rotten Dragon got rushed. Well on the LN you definitly have multiple ones going at it, Filo eventually stops going crazy at it, and starts to behave more like a daughter that wants daddy to give her some love and care, so nothing romantic, whereas Rapth never lets it go. There are other romantic interests later on, but really only 1 or 2 of them come close to Rapth in those regards AND we are talking about this happening in a long LONG story, it is not like every new volume you have a girl to chase around the MC ass or something. It will die down a bit later on, but at the volume I m at of the LN, I think it hit a nice balance between the harem and the real plot. It is actually kinda sick hearing people shipping Filo with Naofumi, since they relactionship is more like of daughter and father... Melty is a different case, and I will leave it at, but if you are feeling it is wrong with some many underaged going on, there is one oneesama later on going at it, lol (to be crude about it, not every new member will be a horny loli wanted his D). If you read the source material, you get a better presence of MC's awareness and state of mind, so this is not as bothering, since he clearly friendzones or "daughters-zone" most of them. There are also some cool male squad appearing later on, and as Naofumi states, for him it doesnt matter, it is not his choice, he is not going at it, wanting to gather a squad full of females, it wouldnt bother him, if they were all males. |
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alshu said: I was speaking in general not about episodes X to Y. Cleckeroo said: The holy water is working, Raphtalia said that the areas with bondages soaked up with holy water heals faster. Also the wounds on her head have disappeared but those on her hands have enlarged - some focus on that in the episode (or maybe a storyboard error?) ...thus I assumed that she is laying when trying to not worry Naofumi before the wave. Ohh my bad, well if you ask me I have no problems with that. It's not getting bigger and the part that Naofumi puts a bondage with holy water you can see some black smoke, it means the curse is fading slowly. |
But this is my impression. Previously you couldn't see the wounds under the bandages. Cleckeroo said: Naofumi puts a bondage with holy water you can see some black smoke, it means the curse is fading slowly. It could also be a bad thing not necessarily healing. Anyway you confirmed to me the she is actually going better. |
alshu said: But this is my impression. Previously you couldn't see the wounds under the bandages. Cleckeroo said: Naofumi puts a bondage with holy water you can see some black smoke, it means the curse is fading slowly. It could also be a bad thing not necessarily healing. Anyway you confirmed to me the she is actually going better. Thats an animation error if you ask me. |
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