Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso Episode 8 Discussion

aku-rei said:


Agreed. Though typically the winter wind always seems to do best with audiences because it's really only an etude at second glance. it's the grand finale of the chopin etude cycle.

i couldn't really tell which piece i liked more, the torrent was great as well. the pianist who sampled both obviously knows what he's doing which is to say both were really just great.

i wonder how arima is gonna do because traditionally the wrong note which i think he's going to play is considered one of the easier ones. but it's the first round anyway from my understanding?

Kaioshin_Sama said:
You seem like an actual reasonable rational person on MAL so let me just put it this, I think we both no in the long run that that's never good enough. You either have to be all in frothing at the mouth over the top fanboy about something or you're a hater. It's a joke and that's how I choose to approach it.

A-1 also doesn't give two shits about anything more than making money and stroking it's corporate ego with the occasional half baked style over substance project like this (they couldn't even be bothered to cast a better seiyuu as the MC who also certainly would have helped matters a lot) or not play up the whole hero worship of certain cast members thing at every turn compared to the manga (not to mention how it plays every scene as overwrought dramatically as possible just in case the hype crowd might not pick up on something and fail to get their hype thing going for a minute or two) so no I can't say I feel the love flowing into this show so much as they're just doing their little adaptation and surprisingly decently when they feel like it if artificially enough for a change and doing so in a way they think will make them some bank. If people can't see through to that then well they're more gullible than I thought. I'd sooner just stick to the manga in any case, cause then I don't have to listen to Natsuki Hanae (who is clearly only here cause Aniplex is trying to push him hard as their next big lead actor even though he's clearly nowhere near ready for the lead roles they're giving him) struggle to emote his way through simple lines and dialogue while everyone else handles things naturally and like they know what they're doing.

Kaioshin_Sama said:

A-1 also doesn't give two shits about anything more than making money and stroking it's corporate ego with the occasional half baked style over substance project like this (they couldn't even be bothered to cast a better seiyuu as the MC who also certainly would have helped matters a lot) or not play up the whole hero worship of certain cast members thing at every turn compared to the manga (not to mention how it plays every scene as overwrought dramatically as possible just in case the hype crowd might not pick up on something and fail to get their hype thing going for a minute or two) so no I can't say I feel the love flowing into this show so much as they're just doing their little adaptation and surprisingly decently when they feel like it if artificially enough for a change and doing so in a way they think will make them some bank. If people can't see through to that then well they're more gullible than I thought. I'd sooner just stick to the manga in any case, cause then I don't have to listen to Natsuki Hanae (who is clearly only here cause Aniplex is trying to push him hard as their next big lead actor even though he's clearly nowhere near ready for the lead roles they're giving him) struggle to emote his way through simple lines and dialogue while everyone else handles things naturally and like they know what they're doing.

Kaioshin_Sama said:

Still not sure why people are so ridiculously psyched and losing their minds about like every episode of this so far though. Not sure what it is with people but it continues to feel really over the top. There really must be some effect that A-1 has on MAL that makes them just go head over heels. Do people honestly believe the things they are saying or is it just hype nonsense doing the talking as it often seems with a lot of stuff.

FloatingList said:
I don't know, though. People really like get so psyched about many things, huh? But let me give you a little analogy. There is a garden of flowers. You know it is a garden of flowers, nothing else, simply "a garden". Now, do you think people will love it? Of course, right? Who wouldn't enjoy a garden filled with flowers, it refreshes your eyes and make your heart calm. That garden of flowers is what you can call beautiful. Now then, there is an abstract painting, so simplistic and looks more nothing than a mess. But some are attracted to it, as it calls something that dwells deeper than their very minds. This is what you call deep. And then there is Van Gogh "Starry Night". This is what you can call deep and beautiful.

Shigatsu, IMO, doesn't try to become the abstract painting or "Starry Night". It simply wanted to be "simply a garden". Nothing too technical, or deep. No, you won't found any "depth" in it, cos you know it is simply "a garden of flowers". And so, the people that come to it will enjoy it as it is.

IMO, you have good eyes, master kaioshin. But you look things too technical and seeks too much depth. IMO, seeing shigatsu as a show that wanted to show technicality (of music) will only make you cringe, as it put its "strength" more on the melancholy of its story and characters. This is, what I mean by shigatsu's trying to be "simply a garden of flowers".

As for your other points about "A-1 being blah blah" or "Natsuki Hanae is blah blah" or "Aniplex is blah blah", I just get back in my previous question; Are you Tomino in disguise? xD (Just kidding, I respect you actually, master kaioshin)

mayukachan said:


This post is <3

RediceRyan said:
Quite amazing performances. I'm worried, how is Arima going to compete.

Balakirev said:
Wrong notes is definitely not easy, even when compared to chopin etudes. That said, I think it'll be very difficult for the average person to hear how difficult a piece is. Certainly it's difficult for me, and I have some years of piano training.

Compared to both the torrent and winter wind, wrong notes is slower and less intense, making it sound quite a bit easier. It's a bit hard to convey the difficulty of a piece.

I wonder how they'll present it.

mayukachan said:
You know what'd be even cooler? If they had a concert with real pianists playing these songs and the scenes in the anime playing in the background. Like how Nodame Cantabile had a real orchestra that played the same pieces.

-Skyleo- said:

No problem, your honesty does you credit !


Yeah, I agree.
I don't know anything about A-1, or Natsuki Hanae or even the Shigatsu manga. And quite honestly, I don't care about it.
I'm not constantly on MAL, so I'm not really into the hype or something, I just don't give a shit. I just enjoy Shigatsu, because I enjoy it for what it is.
Sure Shigatsu is not perfect, so what ? It's still very good for me.

(btw, I found it funny that you refer to "Starry Night" as 'deep and beautiful' ; I read in a book that Van Gogh put his Starry Night in the category of the 'just average' paintings, when he sent it to his brother Théo, lulz)

If we keep the metaphorical explanation, then I want to add that sometimes 'a simple garden of flowers' may turn out to be full of hidden meaning as well, otherwise impressionist painting would not have that much importance nowadays.
However, I don't know if we can really say that Shigatsu is a 'garden of flowers' at the moment. But it still tries, it's not a bad thing.

FloatingList said:
Oh? Is that so? Haha, some creators have a tendency to be humble when it comes to their work unless if it is Kanye West lol I'm a (noob) writer (which you probably can qualify as "creator" or "artist"), and yeah, some people said that my writings are good, but tbh I still feel they're lacking, like, a darn lot. Maybe the same case happened with Van Gogh-sensei. Or, maybe my standard is just so low that I see an "average painting" as "deep and beautiful" xD

Duri1n said:

Oh yeah, for anyone who's curious enough and was impressed by Takeshi (who, if he was real, I have to admit is pretty darn impressive for a 14 yr old), here's how fast some great pianists play chopin etude op 10 no 4