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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Higurashi is back and we got our familiar cast of Keiichi, Rika, Satoko, Rena, etc. Looks like they mixed up the mood a bit with the light humor but also some slightly darker tones. Rena in particular caught my attention when she scratched her neck. It seems they're setting up for the story arc already and this episode had quite a bit of emotions, especially when Rena got slapped in the face. I kinda like the new theme songs. |
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| A new season of Higurashi Kai Sotsu, and Ryukishi07 is ready to play mindgames with the audience once again...starting with Oniakashi-hen (Demon-Opening Chapter). And as usual, spoilers be warned for the OP/ED visuals. Everything plays as it should in parallel wth Gou's Episode 1, only with some amended scenes with the passing of time...and Satoko being sus as usual. Whatever Satoko did to Rena it triggered her memories of her past with her parents, and it wasn't a good sight to behold. This is Rena's moment to shine, and pray God can tell if there's only one way to solve this chapter. |
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| Alright, this is the first series I've watched this season. I'm still confused by this plot, is Satoko still in a loop, looks like this is the first time i see papa Rena in Higurashi series, if i'm not mistake, lol. This is still a start and Higurashi is an obscure and elusive time loop anime. The club is still running as usual, that Satoko trap really tricked Keiichi-kun. Somehow and somehow Rena is the first girl in the mystery for the Higurashi case. I saw 3 seasons and those three things always started with Rena, is Rena that scary? idk. Dumpster, repeatedly I watched this scene, somehow Rena didn't get bored with this kind of plot. Keiichi met Tomirake, this is all I've been through. And yeah, it's totally different from the previous series. I feel that this joke has happened before, do you still remember Satoko's joke with K.O's face written on her face. I don't understand the type of injection, is it the H173 described in the previous series? Satoko injects H173 into Rena, Rena being strange. That's right, you can guess what happened. Rena's hatred towards her father is undeniable, Rena just got carried away by stress and that was the beginning of oyashiro-sama's syndrome. And also this is the first time i can see Rena mama? Hhmm.... It looks like Rena's mother is pregnant, I don't really understand this one. So it was a daughter and Daddy little fight, How can you slap your own daughter damn... Rena went to look for the girl, the coffee place the girl usually used to hang out, Rena looked at the girl and wanted to do something on her, lol. |
| Today, both eps felt like 5 minutes TOGETHER. And holy shit, this was a better adaptation of Tsumi in 10 minutes than Deen's in like 5 eps lol |
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| i will never forgive the Japanese for slapping rena. also Rina symphatizing with Rena??? hmmm are we gonna get a redemption arc lol. Gotta say tho she looks hot. sotsu is a lot better directed that gou holy shit. some shots lool insanely good. OP and ED are great too. I am loving this. |
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| God, it's only the first episode and holy fuck the feels. This is already a ride, but damn. Also once again, the OP is great, and the ED is grea ttoo. |
| Liking the focus on Rena here, though with that will probably come with some sort of bloody massacre. Banger songs from Ayane and Konomi Suzuki. |
| Wow now it's time for more Rena that was already great, Satoko injected the hinamizawa syndrome and now I expect her to destroy everyone related to her parental issues, damn xD |
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| Great start! I thought Rena will going to kill Rina immediately inside that cafe. |
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| Pretty good first episode ^^ Some normal and carefree moments in the school but Satoko is still cunning as ever wanting to keep Rika in Hinamizawa and also injected the Hinamizawa syndrome into Rena who has problems with her dad going out and using all the savings to please a woman called Rina. (who I think was in one of the previous seasons .... it's been a while since rewatched those) OP and ED seemed good |
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| Pretty good way to start cour 2. Here we go again folks, with Higurashi sotsu. Excited to see how things will unfold this time. |
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| I guess it wouldn't have made a difference b/c the HS, but convenient (in a bad way) that Rena left the cafe right as Rina said something sympathetic, haha. I liked the inverse of the scene at the dump, where Rena is dealing with her own stuff and doens't understand why Keiichi is on edge (like how there was literally zero scary intent with her saying Kenta-kun's arm would be torn off, but Keiichi connected it to the murder case). |
| Good to see most of the characters again, I missed them. I really liked the ED too. |
| Not a bad start. Looks like we are getting another "remake" episodes like S1 opener episodes, but unlike S1, there are some obvious changes right from the beginning. I'm sure we'll likely get another plot twist around episode 3-4, so I won't be too judgmental about the plot until then. |
JanPri said: Satoko want to convince Rika That's called "forcing", "harassing". |
| I can't remember, but have we seen Rena's backstory in the OG anime? |
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ovy7 said: In the OG Anime no. I'm almost certain of it, because that's a critical reason I liked the novel so much right at the debut arc. There's so much backstory and in-depth that they didn't even mention in the anime. I didn't mess with my question arcs rating cuz it was really immersive, but I felt Kai was very butchered.I can't remember, but have we seen Rena's backstory in the OG anime? Vu_Qu_Huy said: Eua's power imo is the embodiment of powercreep. Nice observations in the opening.The next scene has Hanyuu being held captive by Eua while she is yawning. This proves Eua's power is immensely stronger than Hanyuu |
| Such a great start to this season, I'm really loving the Opening and Ending song too! |
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rafaelfserafim said: ovy7 said: In the OG Anime no. I'm almost certain of it, because that's a critical reason I liked the novel so much right at the debut arc. There's so much backstory and in-depth that they didn't even mention in the anime. I didn't mess with my question arcs rating cuz it was really immersive, but I felt Kai was very butchered.I can't remember, but have we seen Rena's backstory in the OG anime? Ah, yeah, I had my doubts of Deen adapting that part, so that's why I asked. Also, Tsumihoroboshi was part of the first season made by Deen, while in Kai, IIRC, Ryukishi had to step in because of the studio omitting a bunch of shit in S1. |
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| Guys, I didn't want to bring plot convenience/holes already, but shouldn't h173 induce terminal stage right after the victim wakes up / is injected? The scene implies Satoko gave her a smaller dose, but the ampoule looks empty was discarded in the trash can. |
| I didn’t expect to see Satoko and Rika kiss in the op, it was a nice surprise 😳 |
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| I really don't like how this season is animating the throat scratching. At first it should be light and probably not even leave much of a mark but then as the syndrome progresses and they get more frustrated they go more crazy with injuring themselves. But here it looks like the first scratch tears off a huge chunk of flesh which would probably cause them to bleed out just from that but in the next scene Rena's neck is perfectly fine and you can't even see any marks. Even the original anime handled it much better where Rena had bandages and stuff. Oh and fuck Satoko of course. Teppei's already more likable than her and it looks like even Rina's heading in that direction too so just wow. Satoko is trying REALLY hard for that most hatable character ever spot but the competition is tough. |
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| mm. this was a nice take on tsumihoroboshi-hen, but i just hate satoko so much. i want rika to smash her stupid fucking face in |
| OK, can someone just refresh me on the looping rules here? I vaguely remember something to do with the order of Satoko and Rika's deaths determining which one "controls" the looping, but I can't remember how it works for certain. Like, I know Satoko is currently in control, but how much does Rika remember while still looping herself? Her early use of the KO jack-in-the-box and Satoko's lack of reaction to it (in contrast to episode 16 or whatever it was of Gou when Rika pulled it out to catch Satoko out as the other looper) had me wondering. That aside, an interesting look into Rena's backstory for a change. I seem to recall we got at least some of this before, particularly some of the stuff with Rina, but I'm not entirely sure of how much we got previously. Given that this season is the "Answer Arcs" to Gou's "Question Arcs", I'm curious as to how this ties into whatever resolution the looping battle will end up having. |
| Interesting, it seems focused on Rena this time, who turned into Satoko's victim hum. Quite enjoyable, I always liked her dark side and this time, we shall discover the truth behind the questions left open by season 1 |
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| Guess we're getting the answer arcs now, I'm glad. I was already pissed at Satoko but actually seeing her injecting her own friends... It's too fucked up. She is absolutely irredeemable. Beautiful visuals in the ED again, same as the 2nd ED in Gou. |
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| man this series is so weird, last season I finished it and gave it a 5 because I found it rather boring but on the contrary I’m already really enjoying this season; wonder if it’ll stick for the rest of the 14 episodes though |
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Kinda liked this little blink-and-you-miss little detail btw |
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| Pointless is one word to explain this and surely the next eps untill the series decides to focus again on Rika vs Satoko. There is no reason for this filler to exist. We know Rena went bad and killed Rina and possibly Teppei as well, and even her father unknowingly, maybe a twist at the end is that in some rage moment he was killed as well and she doesn't remember. We also know that Satoko is using the injections. There is no reason to get answer arcs for questions that are already answered. If we had seen her victims in some impossible "locked room", or if we had some people that are supposed to be dead walking around, we could justify this. But we don't. This exists to pad out time. And it is just the first answer arc. And good job at making Satoko completely irredeemable even towards to the other characters, starting with Rena. It scares me that the OP implies that she will be forgiven. If Gou didn't have the Satoko reveal, this would actually be interesting but now I just dont care. Edit:wow people were barely paying attention in Gou huh... rafaelfserafim said: wasn't Gou full of those anyway? Guys, I didn't want to bring plot convenience/holes already, but shouldn't h173 induce terminal stage right after the victim wakes up / is injected? The scene implies Satoko gave her a smaller dose, but the ampoule looks empty was discarded in the trash can. |
ssjokgJul 1, 2021 3:19 PM
| Nice start. Rena got some character development. Nothing we haven't seen before, but it was a helpful refresher to start her arc. I wonder what Satoko's purpose is here. It seems like messing with Rena will only make it harder for Rika to stay. If her motive was to keep the loops going, I wonder why she did not do it the way she had before. No shortage of leaps in logic or coincidences, but I've come to expect that from Gou. My neck is itchy now. |
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ssjokg said: Pointless is one word to explain this and surely the next eps untill the series decides to focus again on Rika vs Satoko. There is no reason for this filler to exist. We know Rena went bad and killed Rina and possibly Teppei as well, and even her father unknowingly, maybe a twist at the end is that in some rage moment he was killed as well and she doesn't remember. We also know that Satoko is using the injections. There is no reason to get answer arcs for questions that are already answered. If we had seen her victims in some impossible "locked room", or if we had some people that are supposed to be dead walking around, we could justify this. But we don't. This exists to pad out time. And it is just the first answer arc. And good job at making Satoko completely irredeemable even towards to the other characters, starting with Rena. It scares me that the OP implies that she will be forgiven. If Gou didn't have the Satoko reveal, this would actually be interesting but now I just dont care. Edit:wow people were barely paying attention in Gou huh... /s rafaelfserafim said: wasn't Gou full of those anyway? Guys, I didn't want to bring plot convenience/holes already, but shouldn't h173 induce terminal stage right after the victim wakes up / is injected? The scene implies Satoko gave her a smaller dose, but the ampoule looks empty was discarded in the trash can. These are more or less my thoughts on it as well. The moment Gou gave us the "Satoko accessing h173" scene all pieces of the puzzle were lined up. The whodunit, howdunit and whydunit were all known by that point. Even the detail about Rika and Satoko ending up dead by the time Keiichi wakes up from the coma is easily deducable. Satoko figured this is as much as she can hurt Rika in this fragment and decided to move on to the next one in which she torments her, and committed shinjuu. This is also consistent with the Watadamashi ending in which Satoko and Rika were found dead side by side as well, so it's almost certainly how it played out. So yeah it really is a shame they are wasting precious run-time with this (almost my exact words as in one of the Gou episode threads). You don't even need to be a particularly discerning viewer to know how it happened. You just have to be not one of the most obtuse. |
AuronJul 1, 2021 3:18 PM
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| itchy itchy itchy Hope this one be good. |
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| @TranslatorPS Thanks for the answer, sry late...this show made me sleepy so i decided to sleep, lol :") TranslatorPS said: it's been mentioned at end of Gou, I don't have any memory about deen :")It's basically the syringe that ends the loop because it'll make someone go crazy. It's been mentioned back in the Deen adaptations already if memory ain't failing me, and if not, it was definitely defined towards the end of Gou. |
MightyM17 said: Satoko fucked them all up by making them believe she was being abused.ssjokg said: Pointless is one word to explain this and surely the next eps untill the series decides to focus again on Rika vs Satoko. There is no reason for this filler to exist. We know Rena went bad and killed Rina and possibly Teppei as well, and even her father unknowingly, maybe a twist at the end is that in some rage moment he was killed as well and she doesn't remember. We also know that Satoko is using the injections. There is no reason to get answer arcs for questions that are already answered. If we had seen her victims in some impossible "locked room", or if we had some people that are supposed to be dead walking around, we could justify this. But we don't. This exists to pad out time. And it is just the first answer arc. And good job at making Satoko completely irredeemable even towards to the other characters, starting with Rena. It scares me that the OP implies that she will be forgiven. If Gou didn't have the Satoko reveal, this would actually be interesting but now I just dont care. Edit:wow people were barely paying attention in Gou huh... wasn't Gou full of those anyway? Explain Tataridamashi and what happened there to me then. She injected Ooishi, possibly Teppei as well. Keichi lost it as well possibly from a Satoko trap hitting his head hard, since he was alrrady close to becoming paranoid. No matter what happened the fact is that Satoko was faking the abuse and that at least one person got an injection. And seriously this wasn't even the hardest "question" arc. |
| First impression: MF the short legged Keiichi here again.. Also, I kinda hate how they made Ritsuko look and sound less like a bitch. Better start than GOU, but that didn't need much. Danpmss said: Lol.Today, both eps felt like 5 minutes TOGETHER. And holy shit, this was a better adaptation of Tsumi in 10 minutes than Deen's in like 5 eps lol Gar_Logan said: That IS one of the good things actually. Definitely a better start than what GOU was.I liked the inverse of the scene at the dump, where Rena is dealing with her own stuff and doens't understand why Keiichi is on edge (like how there was literally zero scary intent with her saying Kenta-kun's arm would be torn off, but Keiichi connected it to the murder case). Erotaku_ said: What do you mean changed?There are some obvious changes right from the beginning. I'm sure we'll likely get another plot twist around episode 3-4, so I won't be too judgmental about the plot until then. And more than that, plot twists? Wasn't this already more or less obvious from GOU? ovy7 said: Yes we have, about to the same extent as here, and even a bit more actually iirc.I can't remember, but have we seen Rena's backstory in the OG anime? iiKrina said: Wasn't this already obvious from GOU? I was already pissed at Satoko but actually seeing her injecting her own friends... It's too fucked up. She is absolutely irredeemable. Or do you mean to actually see Satoko in action? But yeah this is... fucked up. ssjokg said: Exactly what I was thinking.Pointless is one word to explain this and surely the next eps untill the series decides to focus again on Rika vs Satoko. There is no reason for this filler to exist.[...] We know Satoko is behind these event, we know she is the root cause of everything that will happen here. So why? Why are we seeing this all over again. MightyM17 said: What do you want to be explained?Explain Tataridamashi and what happened there to me then. Ooishi going on rampage? K1 fighting with Teppei? Satoko being Satoko? Don't stop thinking, one person from this franchise would say. |
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