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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- This episode was fun to see. Khun wow dude. The guy is so full of unpredictability. XD |
| Despite a lot of the action, comedy, and suspense being underwhelming, I did like Khun's betrayal at the end, pretty solid twist. Bam shows a little more personality, not much but still welcomed. Some character development from the side characters a little, but still pretty average tier. Didn't dislike this episode, found it OK. Still underwhelming though. |
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| This was an average episode. The animation was weaker this episode than the previous action oriented episodes. The test is starting to make more sense but seems a little convoluted and pretty much just seems like a way to justify certain characters making it through (assuming they do make it through). Khun’s plan was very well thought out but a little predictable and he was pretty lucky it turned out so well since he was making quite a few assumptions that weren’t a guaranteed bet. The ending cliffhanger of the episode was well placed. I am curious to see what will transpire next episode. I personally think that this test is the weakest test so far. The series still refuses to develop the main character, so I hope that sometime later in this season he gets more development. |
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| There were so many twists and turns in this episode. It was honestly great. Cannot wait to see the conclusion of this test next week. Or least if it is done by next week. Also yes, MORE CHOCOLATE! |
| Khun the sly blue turtle. I hope all his friends make it, Quant sounds like he's going to get serious now. |
| The Hide-and-Seek arc is well underway this episode: Ranker Quant vs. the tower participants, the true fruits of the training of the various Positions. In the face of the test, as Leroro and Yu Han Sung watches the players face Quant's "Shinsoo is Unbreakable" wrath, it's Khun and Co.'s ways to fight through this unfair game that will render their victory of defeat...it's fight together or risk being unconscious by the professor. To Bam and Androssi though, it's a huge risk. Khun's Team A wins, and Bam's Team B journey is terminated on the spot, or otherwise they may as well have a good chance to continue the path up the Tower. Good try Shibisu, you did well to play Quant off and buy some time for the team's "it" Anak, and Khun the Light Bearer decoy. Nevertheless, mindgames and such, Khun's team won the (mind) game, but lost the (tag) war test. With Lauroe and Khun's decision to backstab the (test made) team whilst hiding his TRUE team, I've gotta say, GGWP Khun. And now, team B with Bam, Androssi and the others. Having experienced Quant's actions through Khun's team, they'd have a better plan. And Androssi immediately starts her betrayal...with Ho still being suspicious of his actions towards Bam: same positions, one will pass, and the other will fail. For Serena to almost lose her life to a Ranker, that was scary, but thanks to Headon giving her the opportunity to climb the Tower, it was a good purposeful one. Question is, who could that Ranker who murdered her friends be, and if he/she'll come again anytime soon. Things are still going at a very fast pace, and this arc's still haven't seen the end of it yet. |
KANLen09May 20, 2020 3:52 PM
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| Legendary episode, especially thanks to Khun |
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| Khun is best boy. He's a fun character to watch. |
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| Prepare for some brain dead people to come in And no you can hate it or love it's okay we all have different taste but some people act like their opinion is everything ..... this is where things gets annoying. |
| how even do people say how good this is when it is still airing....... |
 Maybe watching, maybe reading, probably living |
| Yeah.. I'm not going to pretend that I understand the stuff that happened in this episode or the game that they're playing. Cool strategy by Khun I guess.  |
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| Why my boi Rak gotta carry this show so hard? as much as i do like Endorsi, not really feeling anyone else |
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| Solid episode. Animation wasn't too great but I loved the backgrounds used for this episode, and the lighting was nice. The actual stuff that happened changed a bit, but actually for the better when trying to fit it into anime form. The music was great as usual. I will say, the one thing I wasn't a fan of with this episode was where it ended. It did come across pretty damn anticlimactic, and bizarre. But I'm interested to see how this game would play out next. |
| i still don't understand why they add all this unnecessary jokes with rak and the chocolate bars that aren't even in the webtoon if they know they have to rush and skip things. |
| Pretty confusing episode. I don't understand the rules of the game as usual. They really need to explain them more clearly. They get 100,000 points split between the members of the team if their "it" reaches the goal, but how many are needed to pass? Why are some people already guaranteed to pass? I guess Yoru and Endorsi don't have enough points from previous tests because they spent them all on food/healing injuries? Also not sure why Team A winning would have been bad for Team B, aren't their tests done independently? |
rousseau888 said: i know that,thats not the problem.nanashi796 said: i still don't understand why they add all this unnecessary jokes with rak and the chocolate bars that aren't even in the webtoon if they know they have to rush and skip things. Rak always been very comical in the webtoons especially when he dont fight |
| so the ranker almost lost because he couldn't hold on to khun properly? top kek also why does that other ranker dude (the who killed all the nakama) look like some Kakyouin x Yuugi hybrid lmao ngl though khun's "betrayal" was kinda unexpected though |
 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
| Aaaaand the Tower of Betrayal begins. Where betrayal meets another betrayal. That aside, the thing that really bothers me is the amount of subtle changes and omission of details that causes several characters to have a different characteristic. While I understand omitting of details can't be help when adapting it to an anime, I observe that some of characters have added/different behaviour in the anime, and it kinda irks me a little, it feels like they are not the same character. Having binged through the tag game last week in webtoons (I just wanted to watch one scene but ended up going way beyond that), I actually became really disappointed. Before, I was still enjoying the anime despite knowing it was lacking with the characters feeling slightly different. Probably a bad idea to re-read the webtoon lol. The episode, or perhaps the anime as a whole, is really underwhelming, even when not comparing to its webtoon but as an anime itself. If I'm someone who has never read ToG before, I might have already drop the anime a couple of episodes ago. Like many non webtoon reader has mention, the characters feels shallow and insignificant. With that said, if you have only watched the ToG anime and you love it so far, do give the Webtoon a chance! Every chapter/episode is fully colored and the panel style is different from manga, so do give it a shot! |
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| 'Smirk' are you not entertained. |
| Looks like this will be a game of hide and seek, the main goal is Anaak, and it seems like the brain behind all this is Khun. The strategy he used was apparently futile because Oni was very strong and they were unable to hold it in. Looks like the Rak eating contest will be very exciting in my opinion, lol. It seems like the plan made by Khun had failed and he wanted to apologize to his friends, I thought that would be the case but in the end it seemed that Khun was betraying his friends. Khun made a deal that made him betray, I saw him smile a little.  |
| this episode was interesting, i agree that the game rules are a bit confusing but im really enjoying all the jockeying for position that goes on between the different characters. everyone seems to have their own secret motives. I'm actually pretty hyped for next episode, i hope we get to see Bam finally do something |
| Anybody want to give us non-webtoon readers a quick rundown of the rules of this test? The rules explanation last episode was not clear and I'm not finding myself any more enlightened after this episode... |
| Every day you can read a book or watch some anime is a good day! |
| Wow Khun never fails to surprise me. |
Barktooth said: Pretty confusing episode. I don't understand the rules of the game as usual. They really need to explain them more clearly. They get 100,000 points split between the members of the team if their "it" reaches the goal, but how many are needed to pass? Why are some people already guaranteed to pass? I guess Yoru and Endorsi don't have enough points from previous tests because they spent them all on food/healing injuries? Also not sure why Team A winning would have been bad for Team B, aren't their tests done independently? Before this test they each attend lessons for the respective role that they train for. So, for instance, Rak did exceptionally well for his role, so he does not need to attend the test. There are of course, others that are guaranteed to pass the test too, but are not explicitly being told that they are exempted from the test. However, it seems like they have the information to calculate their scores. From there I guess they can predict if they even need to do well for the test in order to pass. As you know, they each have their own roles. If I'm not wrong, only certain number of them in their role are allowed to pass. So between fisherman, not all fisherman can pass the test. The bottom few in that role will not pass the floor. You can think of it as this test carries a high weightage to pass this floor. There are other categories that contributes to the overall weightage. |
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fonmeister said: Barktooth said: Pretty confusing episode. I don't understand the rules of the game as usual. They really need to explain them more clearly. They get 100,000 points split between the members of the team if their "it" reaches the goal, but how many are needed to pass? Why are some people already guaranteed to pass? I guess Yoru and Endorsi don't have enough points from previous tests because they spent them all on food/healing injuries? Also not sure why Team A winning would have been bad for Team B, aren't their tests done independently? Yeah, it seems they gloss over the rules and leave it confusing but I think with regards to passing or not from this test, it was mentioned in the previous episode that they were evaluated individually. Which ties in to your question about why team a winning is bad for team b. Maybe they employ a first come first serve basis? If team A wins, the positions left available will be taken by them? Assuming that there are limited slots but I don't even know. Yeap you got the gist right. Some other people have explained it above so you can take a look. |
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| Nice to see Khun in action again...he is truly best boy gaussian_ said: Anybody want to give us non-webtoon readers a quick rundown of the rules of this test? The rules explanation last episode was not clear and I'm not finding myself any more enlightened after this episode... You have to get the person from their team who is 'it' to escape without being caught by the red-head ranker. They have to wear a badge and the ranker has to press it, then the team loses. If the team gets the rankers badge and does this, then they pass. Hope that helps ^^ |
tappdancing786Jul 21, 2020 7:38 AM
| Pretty good episode, Khun was great once again. I really like the guy. |
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gaussian_ said: Anybody want to give us non-webtoon readers a quick rundown of the rules of this test? The rules explanation last episode was not clear and I'm not finding myself any more enlightened after this episode... The test lasts until one of the following happens: The Regular team's "It" escapes through one of the two exits. One of the two "Its" has their badge touched by the other "It". The three hour time limit passes. Conditions for victory: The Regular team's "It" escapes through one of the exits. The examiner "It" (Quant) has their badge touched by the Regular team's "It". Conditions for loss: The Regular team's "It" has their badge touched by examiner "It". The three hour time limit runs out. Additional rules: The Regular team's "It" must be a Fisherman. The two "Its" must wear the badge. The examiner "It" (Quant) cannot attack people in the safe zone. |
jrShark said: Aaaaand the Tower of Betrayal begins. Where betrayal meets another betrayal. That aside, the thing that really bothers me is the amount of subtle changes and omission of details that causes several characters to have a different characteristic. While I understand omitting of details can't be help when adapting it to an anime, I observe that some of characters have added/different behaviour in the anime, and it kinda irks me a little, it feels like they are not the same character. Having binged through the tag game last week in webtoons (I just wanted to watch one scene but ended up going way beyond that), I actually became really disappointed. Before, I was still enjoying the anime despite knowing it was lacking with the characters feeling slightly different. Probably a bad idea to re-read the webtoon lol. The episode, or perhaps the anime as a whole, is really underwhelming, even when not comparing to its webtoon but as an anime itself. If I'm someone who has never read ToG before, I might have already drop the anime a couple of episodes ago. Like many non webtoon reader has mention, the characters feels shallow and insignificant. With that said, if you have only watched the ToG anime and you love it so far, do give the Webtoon a chance! Every chapter/episode is fully colored and the panel style is different from manga, so do give it a shot! I will not agree that the webtoon is not better. Yes the Webtoon explains in a lot more detail of what is happening. But to explain all that in anime form would double the length of episode and episode would be full of just expedition dumbs something that be pretty boring to watch. But from what I seen most of the anime only viewers are enjoying this version a lot. If your expecting a direct adaptation you are going be disappointed but as adaptations good it is a good one, not prefect but good. |
ChadSenpai0987 said: Regulars gain points individually in their respective positions tests/classes, and the likes of Khun, Lauroe, Shibisu, Hatz etc are at the top of their classes so they are pretty much guaranteed that they would pass. As for the Hide and Seek game, if the "it" from the participating team reaches the exit before the Ranker or steals the Ranker's badge the team wins, and if the Ranker steals the badge from the team they would lose. And if team A won, team B would've failed the Hide and Seek game. Khun knew he would pass anyway, so he helped Bam whose points were pretty low. I see, I did suspect that their points from before matter, although it's surprising Shibisu is at the top of his class. In regards to Team B failing if Team A were to win, that's rather unfair considering Team A seemingly got to go first for no reason, which is a massive advantage in this case. I suppose the real test is to see if the scouts were able to establish their friendships, which they could then use to sabotage whatever team they're assigned to in this test and let their actual comrades win? Perhaps this arrangement does make sense, then. In any case, thanks for clearing that up. fonmeister said: Yeah, it seems they gloss over the rules and leave it confusing but I think with regards to passing or not from this test, it was mentioned in the previous episode that they were evaluated individually. Which ties in to your question about why team a winning is bad for team b. Maybe they employ a first come first serve basis? If team A wins, the positions left available will be taken by them? Assuming that there are limited slots but I don't even know. That does make sense, every previous test seemed to have the purpose of pruning some more of the Regulars. jrShark said: Before this test they each attend lessons for the respective role that they train for. So, for instance, Rak did exceptionally well for his role, so he does not need to attend the test. There are of course, others that are guaranteed to pass the test too, but are not explicitly being told that they are exempted from the test. However, it seems like they have the information to calculate their scores. From there I guess they can predict if they even need to do well for the test in order to pass. As you know, they each have their own roles. If I'm not wrong, only certain number of them in their role are allowed to pass. So between fisherman, not all fisherman can pass the test. The bottom few in that role will not pass the floor. You can think of it as this test carries a high weightage to pass this floor. There are other categories that contributes to the overall weightage. I see, I overlooked how Rak was already allowed to pass without even participating. Makes sense that not all of the people assigned to the same role can pass, too. |
| Khun is literally the only bright spot for me in this show at this point. What disappoints me is how the adaptation DID NOT elaborate enough on how his plan worked, because with the way it went and executed itself, as well as the fact that it was still rather lackluster, explanations were clearly necessary. The episode ended VERY oddly, too, which isn't particularly good in terms of directing. I see that Endorsi has been hyped up quite a bit, which probably stems from how her personality can ring with many people, which will definitely be supplemented when they slap in her backstory in the next episodes. However, while I don't actually hate her, she feels very uninspiring. Like, there's something about character personas like this slapped with a self-serious backstory to boot that often really gives off a bitter taste for me, personally. Often feels like the show would be forcing me to care instead of letting or allowing me to care. Just my honest opinion, though. In the end, my overall impressions have not significantly changed. I heard the dub will explain stuff better, but the overall atmosphere and cast would still be the main issues I have, so not really sure if the dub is worth checking out in full. Plus I'm not really a dub guy, anyway :\ |
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PoisonedTea said: jrShark said: Aaaaand the Tower of Betrayal begins. Where betrayal meets another betrayal. That aside, the thing that really bothers me is the amount of subtle changes and omission of details that causes several characters to have a different characteristic. While I understand omitting of details can't be help when adapting it to an anime, I observe that some of characters have added/different behaviour in the anime, and it kinda irks me a little, it feels like they are not the same character. Having binged through the tag game last week in webtoons (I just wanted to watch one scene but ended up going way beyond that), I actually became really disappointed. Before, I was still enjoying the anime despite knowing it was lacking with the characters feeling slightly different. Probably a bad idea to re-read the webtoon lol. The episode, or perhaps the anime as a whole, is really underwhelming, even when not comparing to its webtoon but as an anime itself. If I'm someone who has never read ToG before, I might have already drop the anime a couple of episodes ago. Like many non webtoon reader has mention, the characters feels shallow and insignificant. With that said, if you have only watched the ToG anime and you love it so far, do give the Webtoon a chance! Every chapter/episode is fully colored and the panel style is different from manga, so do give it a shot! I will not agree that the webtoon is not better. Yes the Webtoon explains in a lot more detail of what is happening. But to explain all that in anime form would double the length of episode and episode would be full of just expedition dumbs something that be pretty boring to watch. But from what I seen most of the anime only viewers are enjoying this version a lot. If your expecting a direct adaptation you are going be disappointed but as adaptations good it is a good one, not prefect but good. Yeap, that was what I'm trying to imply, the fact that it can't be help. Sorry if it wasn't clear. But the main issue I'm having is that the characters are behaving a bit differently, that I would interpret their personality differently. This is likely due to the extra details added in, omission of some details, and also likely due to the way the anime cuts the scene (transition and stuffs). I know they can't and shouldn't so a perfect adaptation, but I feel that some of the key and core aspect of the ToG element is missing. Just my 2 cents though, my subjective opinion. |
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Elucid said: Despite a lot of the action, comedy, and suspense being underwhelming, I did like Khun's betrayal at the end, pretty solid twist. Bam shows a little more personality, not much but still welcomed. Some character development from the side characters a little, but still pretty average tier. Didn't dislike this episode, found it OK. Still underwhelming though. I completly agree. The show should have me more invested 8 episodes in, but I feel like it constantly falls short of my expectations. Kinda weird since I am not familiar with the source material. Biggest issue being that there is no greater theme to the show (at least for now). -climbing the tower is the thing everybody does on the side -Bam does not progress the 'plot' as a protagonist -the princesses of Jahad are mere participants; tower politics are not the point either -Side characters could be something to be invested in, but the show tells me not to -Rachel is here but on the sideline, so it is not romance either So what's the point? I will keep watching and wait for something to happen but this is sooo far off organic storytelling. |
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| Quant got Kooned hard. lmao!! |
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| This episode further enforces Khun as my favorite character. When I heard Khun 'apologizing' I was laughing so hard because I could tell that he was the one who betrayed Team A. You go, blue turtle. Favorite scenes this episode definitely feature Khun's manipulation. There's also when Rak kept insisting that Khun had a plan (of course he did, he's Khun) and when Bam cheered at Khun's intelligence. Whoever the anime director is, please make them canon even though they weren't in the manhwa. Fanfiction does not satisfy me enough. |
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| Only good moment was Khun's betrayal. Animation is getting very poor. |
PoisonedTea said: jrShark said: Aaaaand the Tower of Betrayal begins. Where betrayal meets another betrayal. That aside, the thing that really bothers me is the amount of subtle changes and omission of details that causes several characters to have a different characteristic. While I understand omitting of details can't be help when adapting it to an anime, I observe that some of characters have added/different behaviour in the anime, and it kinda irks me a little, it feels like they are not the same character. Having binged through the tag game last week in webtoons (I just wanted to watch one scene but ended up going way beyond that), I actually became really disappointed. Before, I was still enjoying the anime despite knowing it was lacking with the characters feeling slightly different. Probably a bad idea to re-read the webtoon lol. The episode, or perhaps the anime as a whole, is really underwhelming, even when not comparing to its webtoon but as an anime itself. If I'm someone who has never read ToG before, I might have already drop the anime a couple of episodes ago. Like many non webtoon reader has mention, the characters feels shallow and insignificant. With that said, if you have only watched the ToG anime and you love it so far, do give the Webtoon a chance! Every chapter/episode is fully colored and the panel style is different from manga, so do give it a shot! I will not agree that the webtoon is not better. Yes the Webtoon explains in a lot more detail of what is happening. But to explain all that in anime form would double the length of episode and episode would be full of just expedition dumbs something that be pretty boring to watch. But from what I seen most of the anime only viewers are enjoying this version a lot. If your expecting a direct adaptation you are going be disappointed but as adaptations good it is a good one, not prefect but good. The problem is not that the adaptation isn't a 1:1 perfect copy of the source material, but the fact that they're changing the personality/behavior of some characters and dumbing them down in terms of intelligence (e.g. Quant). Also, the anime is adding unnecessary scenes like the one in this episode with the eating contest/challenge between Rak and the other Spearbearer instead of using that time more effectively and, for example, explain the range of manipulation for a LightBearer and his lighthouses, what kind of material lighthouses are made of and how they are able to just fly in the air/Shinsu etc. |
| This episode was pretty damn good and Khun is without a doubt the best character in the show(he is kinda carrying it, not gonna lie), but you know what is even better, this comment section. You have the readers who think the anime sucks, the readers who think the anime is a masterpiece, the anime-only watchers who think this is the worst anime ever, the anime-only watchers who think this is the best anime ever, this is such a party. This makes everything so much more funny. |
| Gotta say the twist was really awesome at the end. It kept playing with my expectations and I loved it. Somehow though while the OST is great it just seemed to change too rapidly this episode, almost felt like it didn't flow as well as I would have liked. Overall great episode as usual. That shibisu blush was super cute xD also I really LOVE khun's VA. |
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