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Nov 28, 8:21 AM
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This might be my favorite fight of the arc so far. Kenshin and Cho "The Swordhunter" has different idealogies appraoching this fight.

Kenshin is fighting beyond just to win but wants to prove what it really means to wield swords. It was also one of the more difficult fights Kenshin had to deal with in recent episodes. They presented the character emotions really well imo, even for Cho. Well played Kenshin.
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It’s absolutely baffling to see how Kenshin was actually battling Cho and his weird as fuck sword with that wooden.. thing in the hand, and was still holding his own against him lol. That’s why he’s the GOAT. People like Cho don't deserve any sort of empathy, so yeah, it was actually really satisfying to see Kenshin giving that guy beating he deserved. Bozo deserved worse than that but okay, Kenshin ain’t his old self, so yeah.

Still, I liked the animation this episode, and yeah, that decisive blow as well with that new sakabato. That dude crossed the line, so this much is genuinely acceptable. To think there are a whole bunch of freaks out there, who are as deranged as him, if not more, to deal with… you know how high the stakes would be going forward.
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Nov 28, 11:35 AM
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Part two of the fight against Broomhead Cho, never an unentertaining moment.
The second, the better Sakabato, hfs that animation was on point.
The swordsmith's will need to make a new hilt.
We even got treated with a flash back to pre-Meiji Battousai.

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Nov 28, 11:51 AM
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That Kenshin cut was freakin awesome! Good episode overall with great writing.

5/5
Nov 28, 12:14 PM
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Yhh man was peak in manga & original series!
Nov 28, 1:34 PM
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Awesome episode, animation and music! Looks like next episode will be original? Or at least part of it?
I love how they have in count the old fans too with new content!
Nov 28, 3:08 PM
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Well that was it for Cho. But the rest will be much harder than this idiot. This is going into flashback mode now.
Nov 28, 3:44 PM
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Great episode, but it's a shame how the next one or two episodes will be filler, just when things were getting good
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Ok that sword is absolutely ridiculous 😂 easily the craziest weapon we’ve seen in the series thus far. One of the best episodes in the series thus far as well. The fights are always pretty solid, but the Cho vs Kenshin fight today looked amazing.

Cho got off easy all things considered, anyone who threatens a child like that needs to die and I was lowkey hoping Kenshin was gonna take him out lmao. The new Sabato reveal was awesome though! Pure chills when Kenshin knocked buddy out. I wish the swordsmith’s father were alive to see that his sword has indeed reached the promised age where peace reigns supreme and its being used in defense of the weak.

But that was only one of the 10 swordsmen, 9 to go. Can’t wait to see what the rest of this arc got cooked up.
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what are the odds that this remake will try and adapt trust and betrayal?
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Kenshin fighting for not only this small child in danger but the new era forging ahead. Kids like this one are a symbol of hope that children all over the country of Japan at that time could grow up not worrying about having to pick up a sword to survive. For hundreds of years before this peaceful era children could very easily not make it to adulthood or if they did have short brutal lives on the battlefield. But now because of the efforts of Kenshin and everyone like him who strives for ultimate peace, kids in this new era can grow up with peaceful lives. Kenshin standing his ground against this psycho Cho and his ribbon like elastic sword. Being able to bend and twist it around like its a rope. Cho proving to be a tough opponent especially with Kenshin having a broken sword. The sword makers son seeing how genuine Kenshin is inspiring him to give Kenshin the last sword his father made. That last sword proving to be a reverse blade like Kenshin had before is somewhat a miracle. None of them thought it would be. Kenshin nearly broke his no killing rule but he ended up not having to. With only one of the ten mercenaries Shishio called defeat there isn't much room for celebrating but now that Kenshin has a new sword he's much more equipped to handle the rest
Nov 28, 5:24 PM
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Cho with that whip-like sword over here giving me Mitsuri from Demon Slayer vibes lol, he was quite skilled with it, but I’m ngl he still isn’t getting a great showing here, bro is getting beat by a guy with no sword lol, I know it’s Kenshin who is basically in a tier of his own but it’s not a good look for Cho. But besides that, the fight absolutely ripped, so many awesome looking scenes, I especially loved Kenshin’s elbow move, who needs a sword anyway lol, it just unfortunately didn’t do Cho in. But Cho getting back up got us that amazing moment when Kenshin finally drew the new sword, I had a feeling it would end up being a sakabato but the fact Kenshin was ready to kill there is quite wild, it was definitely necessary but still.

But with that, Cho is down (for now, maybe?) and that just leaves nine more Swords, I’m looking forward to what other crazy mfs come to take on our boy. I also really liked the thing with that swordsmith guy and his family, it is indeed people that change history, not the tools they use, I’m happy he realized his dad’s philosophy after all this time.
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what are the odds that this remake will try and adapt trust and betrayal?
@Xrotics_13- they will definitely adapt. Because they have to make jinchu arc.
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@Miraz_Un_Nabi I hope they do that arc and trust and betrayal justice
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@Miraz_Un_Nabi I hope they do that arc and trust and betrayal justice
@Xrotics_13- That's a tall order, considering how good the OVA was.
Maybe they'll keep it a faithful adaptation of the manga, but the OVA will always be better.
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Not reading allat cause I don’t care. Tensura peak. Have a good one tho
Nov 28, 7:35 PM
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This episode definitely kept me on the edge of my seat. I really thought Kenshin had been pushed too far and was forced to give into his past in order to protect to future. But the surprise sakabato brought tremendous relief. And the message from the swordmaker was so sincere and heartfelt that it cut deeper than any blade. With each episode this series keeps winning me over more and more. I hope the trend continues.
Nov 28, 8:10 PM
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Our boi got another Sakabato to fight with
Nov 28, 9:05 PM
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what are the odds that this remake will try and adapt trust and betrayal?
@Xrotics_13- Please let's not start doing jokes, how can you compete with the ovas?
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@Miraz_Un_Nabi I hope they do that arc and trust and betrayal justice
@Xrotics_13- they will definitely adapt the manga. But how will they implement the story, I cant assume right now.
Because I thought they will finish the whole arc in this season. But the pace they are showing right now, they will be able to finish 3/4th of this arc.
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what are the odds that this remake will try and adapt trust and betrayal?
@Xrotics_13- They're gonna have to turn that into a movie if anything. There's one director at the studio that's capable of bringing the best out of that plotline but he's probably too busy with call of the night.
Nov 28, 10:47 PM

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Holy Crap.....ZORO FORGED THE SAKABOTO LOL!


There was no way there wouldn't be an appearance by Kazuya Nakai in this show and he gets to be the sword forger. Fitting on so many levels.
Nov 29, 12:43 AM
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Cho sword was so ridiculous lol

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That Sakuga was 🔥🔥🔥

Is that Zoro VA? WTF 😱😱😱
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Did Kenshin actually mention Katsura?
Nov 29, 5:28 AM

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Holy Crap.....ZORO FORGED THE SAKABOTO LOL!


There was no way there wouldn't be an appearance by Kazuya Nakai in this show and he gets to be the sword forger. Fitting on so many levels.
lol my exact thoughts when I heard Kazuya Nakai's voice.


Nov 29, 5:35 AM

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That hilt and cover reminded me of Zatoichi's sword, looks like your regular wood cane but hidden is a pointy and deadly sword, too bad it broke that easily but i'm curious and guessing his son is gonna make and replace them by something even cooler

overall very good episode, animation was surprisingly really crisp and fluid this episode and sound design is as always top tier, makes the fights really engaging.

Also Kazuya Nakai's always a bliss to listen to and it fitted the character very well since his acting is always in that range between Sakai,Hijikata and let's not forget Zoro !
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Nov 29, 7:27 AM

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nice way to wrap that up, family got their answers and broom hair got his booty kicked
Nov 29, 8:45 AM

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This fight is the one I most clearly remember from the og anime, it's just so fkng cool man...

We are getting more Kenshin backstory next episode, nice, but I still want them to show us his Battousai days, maybe we will also get a bit of that?
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Nov 29, 9:26 AM
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Damm that perculiar murder sword sure was impressive. In a packed battlefield its kill count would had been immense. Still Kenshin's counterattack was just glorious. After much hardship Kenshin finally gets his new sword.
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Pretty nice episode though I gotta say its 96' counterpart handled the "Kenshin breaking his non-killing vow" sequence way better. This remake version has far better animation, of course, but I personally think it felt kinda lacking in portraying Kenshin's inner struggle and hesitation to use the new blade. Not to mention I just love Kenshin's war cry in the original anime.

That said, I still liked this episode quite a bit. Not sure what the next one will be about tho... are they planning to slow down the pacing even more?
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what are the odds that this remake will try and adapt trust and betrayal?
@Xrotics_13- trust and betrayal is in the Jinchu arc. So they'll probably get to it in season 4, seeing as how we may not finish the Kyoto arc this season.

All in all I think the episode was great! The extended fight with cho was really cool and highlights both combatants' skills. The scene with Arai Shaku was also good, loved the color palate of that scene.

I'm excited to see some new content next week! I think it's cool that they're adding these extra stories we didn't get in the original manga run.
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@dragoncapsule505 I guess it just goes to show how much faith I have in this studio. yeah they are definitely not gonna match up to the ova but they definitely will do a good job
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@KatoWorks I think it would be fine as a 3 episode arc . but yeah a movie would also be nice

side note : nice pfp where's it from
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Pretty nice episode though I gotta say its 96' counterpart handled the "Kenshin breaking his non-killing vow" sequence way better. This remake version has far better animation, of course, but I personally think it felt kinda lacking in portraying Kenshin's inner struggle and hesitation to use the new blade. Not to mention I just love Kenshin's war cry in the original anime.

That said, I still liked this episode quite a bit. Not sure what the next one will be about tho... are they planning to slow down the pacing even more?
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Pretty nice episode though I gotta say its 96' counterpart handled the "Kenshin breaking his non-killing vow" sequence way better.

Yeah I agree with you in this matter. In OG they showed a very deep way to break the silence with new sword. But this time, it fully has followed the manga. That's why they haven't showed that much intensity. But still it is a good one.
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@fearlubu what do you mean we might not finish the arc isn't that long 20 episodes should be more than enough at the pace they are going. also I thought the Kyoto arc was the end that's why the original had so much filler. yeah we have kenshin's death OVAs and his son but I don't think I want them to go that far
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Pretty nice episode though I gotta say its 96' counterpart handled the "Kenshin breaking his non-killing vow" sequence way better. This remake version has far better animation, of course, but I personally think it felt kinda lacking in portraying Kenshin's inner struggle and hesitation to use the new blade. Not to mention I just love Kenshin's war cry in the original anime.

That said, I still liked this episode quite a bit. Not sure what the next one will be about tho... are they planning to slow down the pacing even more?

that my friend is the power of nostalgia. show a modern day anime fan that you'll hear the opposite
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@Miraz_Un_Nabi am I crazy or is this arc longer than I thought cause after this isn't kenshin's meeting up with his master (sorry I don't know how to do that hide spoilers thing) and to me that was like the middle of the arc . so technically we should be half way there
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@Miraz_Un_Nabi am I crazy or is this arc longer than I thought cause after this isn't kenshin's meeting up with his master (sorry I don't know how to do that hide spoilers thing) and to me that was like the middle of the arc . so technically we should be half way there
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@Miraz_Un_Nabi fire really!? that felt like the end (spoilers wasn't that the start of the battle ?) . also yeah they can't any path they want with this also. the only thing surprising about this arc so far is the lack of ova references for example they have brought up kenshin's scar but never had a flash back or a nod to how he got his scar . I personally would have loved some trust and betrayal references but that's just me
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@Miraz_Un_Nabi fire really!? that felt like the end (spoilers wasn't that the start of the battle ?) . also yeah they can't any path they want with this also. the only thing surprising about this arc so far is the lack of ova references for example they have brought up kenshin's scar but never had a flash back or a nod to how he got his scar . I personally would have loved some trust and betrayal references but that's just me
@Xrotics_13- the back story or the name trust and betrayal i guess for jinchu arc. And they will show this in another season. And it will get focus at the end of this arc. So we will have a flash back of battousai
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Miraz_Un_Nabi said:
@Xrotics_13- the back story or the name trust and betrayal i guess for jinchu arc. And they will show this in another season. And it will get focus at the end of this arc. So we will have a flash back of battousai

the backstory , I don't think anyone said trust and/or betrayal in the movie or ova
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KatoWorks said:
They're gonna have to turn that into a movie if anything.


A Movie would be great, but that wouldn't work with the beginning of the Jinchuu Arc; there is around 6 Episodes worth of content before the flashback begins, so that would be weird. Unless they move it forward.

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I think it would be fine as a 3 episode arc .


There is no way.

That's a sub-Arc of 14 (+1) Chapters, 3 Episodes is clearly not enough; even the Tsuioku-hen OVAs got 4 Episodes of 30 minutes by removing all the comedy and changing a few things. Depending on the pacing they'll go with it, a Movie might not be enough.

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that my friend is the power of nostalgia. show a modern day anime fan that you'll hear the opposite


Well, this Season definitely has a way better animation than the 1996s series, the moment Kenshin dash forward dodging the blade is absolutely great, but there was no emotionnal intensity behind Kenshin actually breaking his vow, which should be a major dealbreaker, and was completely focused on in the previous series.

Somehow, this Episode also feels more dated than the one of the 1996s series. A lot of static shots were used here, especially to let the characters talk while they are in the motion of an action, as if the time was stopped just to let them talk. That's something that was widely used in the 80/90s (which wasn't even used in this scene for the previous adaptation).

I don't think it's nostalgia, I really do believe the previous series was objectively way better for this specific part, just like how this one handled Eiji's anger better. However, I also think that you are right, and that many modern Anime fans would prefer this version, just like how they did for Kenshin vs Saitô in the 1st Season (which, if I had to be honest, probably is just for the color palette and the Animation...).

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the backstory , I don't think anyone said trust and/or betrayal in the movie or ova


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@KatoWorks I think it would be fine as a 3 episode arc . but yeah a movie would also be nice

side note : nice pfp where's it from
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side note : nice pfp where's it from
It's from Idaten Deities, her name is Miku and I guess she was inspired by Hatsune Miku but as an erotic demon.
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KatoWorks said:
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side note : nice pfp where's it from
It's from Idaten Deities, her name is Miku and I guess she was inspired by Hatsune Miku but as an erotic demon.

well that explains why she looks like that
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Alexioos95 said:
KatoWorks said:
They're gonna have to turn that into a movie if anything.


A Movie would be great, but that wouldn't work with the beginning of the Jinchuu Arc; there is around 6 Episodes worth of content before the flashback begins, so that would be weird. Unless they move it forward.

Xrotics_13- said:
I think it would be fine as a 3 episode arc .


There is no way.

That's a sub-Arc of 14 (+1) Chapters, 3 Episodes is clearly not enough; even the Tsuioku-hen OVAs got 4 Episodes of 30 minutes by removing all the comedy and changing a few things. Depending on the pacing they'll go with it, a Movie might not be enough.

Xrotics_13- said:
that my friend is the power of nostalgia. show a modern day anime fan that you'll hear the opposite


Well, this Season definitely has a way better animation than the 1996s series, the moment Kenshin dash forward dodging the blade is absolutely great, but there was no emotionnal intensity behind Kenshin actually breaking his vow, which should be a major dealbreaker, and was completely focused on in the previous series.

Somehow, this Episode also feels more dated than the one of the 1996s series. A lot of static shots were used here, especially to let the characters talk while they are in the motion of an action, as if the time was stopped just to let them talk. That's something that was widely used in the 80/90s (which wasn't even used in this scene for the previous adaptation).

I don't think it's nostalgia, I really do believe the previous series was objectively way better for this specific part, just like how this one handled Eiji's anger better. However, I also think that you are right, and that many modern Anime fans would prefer this version, just like how they did for Kenshin vs Saitô in the 1st Season (which, if I had to be honest, probably is just for the color palette and the Animation...).

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the backstory , I don't think anyone said trust and/or betrayal in the movie or ova



about the nostalgia : yeah you are right this remake doesn't have the emotion of the 96 series
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KatoWorks said:
They're gonna have to turn that into a movie if anything.


A Movie would be great, but that wouldn't work with the beginning of the Jinchuu Arc; there is around 6 Episodes worth of content before the flashback begins, so that would be weird. Unless they move it forward.

Xrotics_13- said:
I think it would be fine as a 3 episode arc .


There is no way.

That's a sub-Arc of 14 (+1) Chapters, 3 Episodes is clearly not enough; even the Tsuioku-hen OVAs got 4 Episodes of 30 minutes by removing all the comedy and changing a few things. Depending on the pacing they'll go with it, a Movie might not be enough.

Xrotics_13- said:
that my friend is the power of nostalgia. show a modern day anime fan that you'll hear the opposite


Well, this Season definitely has a way better animation than the 1996s series, the moment Kenshin dash forward dodging the blade is absolutely great, but there was no emotionnal intensity behind Kenshin actually breaking his vow, which should be a major dealbreaker, and was completely focused on in the previous series.

Somehow, this Episode also feels more dated than the one of the 1996s series. A lot of static shots were used here, especially to let the characters talk while they are in the motion of an action, as if the time was stopped just to let them talk. That's something that was widely used in the 80/90s (which wasn't even used in this scene for the previous adaptation).

I don't think it's nostalgia, I really do believe the previous series was objectively way better for this specific part, just like how this one handled Eiji's anger better. However, I also think that you are right, and that many modern Anime fans would prefer this version, just like how they did for Kenshin vs Saitô in the 1st Season (which, if I had to be honest, probably is just for the color palette and the Animation...).

Xrotics_13- said:
the backstory , I don't think anyone said trust and/or betrayal in the movie or ova


Alexioos95 said:
Well, this Season definitely has a way better animation than the 1996s series, the moment Kenshin dash forward dodging the blade is absolutely great, but there was no emotionnal intensity behind Kenshin actually breaking his vow, which should be a major dealbreaker, and was completely focused on in the previous series.

For me, the thinking for this scene slightly different. In 96 they were busy to show the hesitation to break the vow. But this time, they have given the full concentration on saving IORI. If i have to break the vow, I will break for IORI.
But yeah emotionally 96 is far supreme than this.
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Great episode, but it's a shame how the next one or two episodes will be filler, just when things were getting good
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Hmmm.... Not sure about that.
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For me, the thinking for this scene slightly different. In 96 they were busy to show the hesitation to break the vow. But this time, they have given the full concentration on saving IORI. If i have to break the vow, I will break for IORI.


True, but I don't think the focus was made on "saving Iori".

The way I see it, this version is showcasing the heroism of Kenshin => He breaks his vow to save a kid who represent a lot to him; he is a true hero. The music also points toward that; they went for a very triumphant music.

While in the 1996s version, the heroism is still present, but it's not accentuated, as the viewer can clearly see and understand than he is indeed heroic there. Instead, they focus on what this act mean to Kenshin. He did save the kid... but to do so, he had to abandon a decade worth of effort and his ideology. And once the deal is done, they play with the shock that Kenshin actually did had to break his vow. (Also supported by the tense background music and noises.)

I really prefer this old interpretation, but it seems that it's not what Watsuki had it mind while drawing these scenes.
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For me, the thinking for this scene slightly different. In 96 they were busy to show the hesitation to break the vow. But this time, they have given the full concentration on saving IORI. If i have to break the vow, I will break for IORI.


True, but I don't think the focus was made on "saving Iori".

The way I see it, this version is showcasing the heroism of Kenshin => He breaks his vow to save a kid who represent a lot to him; he is a true hero. The music also points toward that; they went for a very triumphant music.

While in the 1996s version, the heroism is still present, but it's not accentuated, as the viewer can clearly see and understand than he is indeed heroic there. Instead, they focus on what this act mean to Kenshin. He did save the kid... but to do so, he had to abandon a decade worth of effort and his ideology. And once the deal is done, they play with the shock that Kenshin actually did had to break his vow. (Also supported by the tense background music and noises.)

I really prefer this old interpretation, but it seems that it's not what Watsuki had it mind while drawing these scenes.
@Alexioos95 yes, watsuki wasn't being aware about this properly. Because this time, director almost exactly has done the scene what writer did in manga. But in 96, the director used his full brain to find out the best emotional sceneries for kenshin. And yeah, music is playing lots of vital role.
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Every time I watch this fight I keep thinking "What if Himura tried to hit with the back of that blade in order to avoid killing Cho?".
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