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Jan 6, 2020 5:39 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Oh boy, I guess this is the start of a chain reaction here. I mean, with the suicide law becoming a legal law for Heartland, it's just going to spread further more.

Kind of a scary episode if you ask me.
Jan 6, 2020 6:38 AM
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A bit slow episode but it was interesting, especially at the end.
Jan 6, 2020 6:41 AM
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*hug noises*

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Okay that ending was legit creepy
Jan 6, 2020 7:22 AM
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Finally, a suspense between Magase Ai and Seizaki. That chills though.

Seizaki has really changed, even his own persona. Just to chase Magase, he even got recommended by the director of the FBI.

Looking forward to next week's episode.
Jan 6, 2020 7:25 AM
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You know, God doesn't exist. When you die, its over. - Ai Magase.

i hope they bring season 2.. cause Ai Magase is really interesting character.....


“You can always die. It's living that takes real courage." - Himura Kenshin”

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Jan 6, 2020 7:29 AM
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the world domination by suicide law......
“You can always die. It's living that takes real courage." - Himura Kenshin”

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Jan 6, 2020 7:34 AM
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oshiete ageru

Wow! AWW is the slow but sure thinker type. That call was definitely crafted for Seizaki and we're all just dancing to Magase's tune. 3 more episodes and I'm really enjoying the dynamicity of the story.
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Jan 6, 2020 8:18 AM
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I wasn't quite sure after the last episode, but this one totally convinced me again.

One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron


Jan 6, 2020 8:19 AM
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Someone needs to beat the dogshit out of Magase Ai.
Jan 6, 2020 8:58 AM

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FMmatron said:
I wasn't quite sure after the last episode, but this one totally convinced me again.


Only the last three minutes were good.

I still think this is going to be a train wreck... how they want to conclude that story with only three episodes left?
Ego = 1 / Knowledge | "More the Knowledge Lesser the Ego, Lesser the Knowledge More the Ego." Albert Einstein
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Jan 6, 2020 10:04 AM
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Man they draw Americans so ugly it speaks volumes of what they think of them. Absolute support to the studio!
Azazin said:
FMmatron said:
I wasn't quite sure after the last episode, but this one totally convinced me again.


Only the last three minutes were good.

I still think this is going to be a train wreck... how they want to conclude that story with only three episodes left?

To conclude this Zen only needs to eliminate Magase Ai. Win for her, lose for him, win for everyone else concerned.
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Someone needs to beat the dogshit out of Magase Ai.

I wholeheartedly approve of this violence against the female.
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Jan 6, 2020 10:18 AM

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Slow yet interesting episode. Idk how everything will be settled within the next few eps only, this anime gonna be a miss or a hit by this rate.
Jan 6, 2020 10:37 AM

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Ha ha ha :D
As many possibilities as there are people in the world, so can't really pinpoint what will be taken. Opposite to this show, I've chosen silence for now, although I'm not against it.
I was positively surprised to see yet another perspective of good and evil: "Good and evil aren't significant enough or different enough to form a basis of judgement". I hope there will be one which matches mine.
I suppose this series will have a largely different, maybe stronger effect on those who will binge it once it's over.
Jan 6, 2020 10:46 AM
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Slow yet interesting episode. Idk how everything will be settled within the next few eps only, this anime gonna be a miss or a hit by this rate.


Babylon is good anime
We in episode 9 and still enjoyable
Jan 6, 2020 11:18 AM

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FMmatron said:
I wasn't quite sure after the last episode, but this one totally convinced me again.
same here, those chills at the end felt like a big oof, looking forward for the next episode
Jan 6, 2020 11:26 AM
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I really liked the ending, this is what I came for when I picked this anime up. I legit got chills when Magase started talking to Zen directly

But Magase has got a point though. If Zen would die he wouldn't have to worry about the case anymore. I'm looking forward to seeing how that'll affect his character
Jan 6, 2020 11:28 AM
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I was worried in episode 8 about pacing if you look back this episode was neccesary after all, but episode 9 is putting everything back on track. 3 episodes are more than enough to conclude this show, it would have to be, that all of them would be solely focused on Seizaki and Magase with suicide law as an undertone to be succesful though.

did you notice as well that in audio recording that chart had small noise spikes right before magase talked.

Also Magase is a surname she inhereted from her adoptive family. Her name is Ai meaning love but i though about it, what if it means artifical inteligence. really not sure about it, but odd abilities often require odd explanations.
Jan 6, 2020 11:30 AM

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wow much deep god doesn't exist, haha seizaki-san you die when you're dead
Jan 6, 2020 11:51 AM

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Slow talky talky episode but the last moments were worth the wait.We are at 9th episode can they really end it with the last 4 remaining episodes or will they give us a pending time for a 2nd season ??.Seeing as this anime is going to hit big as one of the best 2019 fall anime there is a big chance of that happening right ??
Jan 6, 2020 12:50 PM

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I hate sm that new protagonist!!! Idk why but ugh! anyway,i'm going to watch this to the end.😒
Jan 6, 2020 1:49 PM

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Damn that last bit made me jump from my seat. Was a pretty slow ep until Ai started talking to Seizaki lol

but ye like other's have said idk how this is all gonna play out in the last eps. It really is going to either be a hit or miss
Jan 6, 2020 2:57 PM

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The worldwide movement is moving along with Shiniki's made-legal Suicide Law of a chain, but not everyone is for the plan.

The gamer-cum-"Thinker" President Wood certainly is planning something about it, but not definitive of his own jigsaw puzzle yet because of Mayor Kaika Itsuki's initiatives, along with Ai Magase's many facades and manipulative efforts, thanks to Zen Seisaki who defected to the U.S. for reasons.

Though in U.S., Seizaki had more help in decoding what Magase was up to, but still that ending...her presence reeks villainy.

Insanity and obsession are the two words I'll use to describe this episode, with Seisaki wanting to end the farce between him and Magase ASAP, along with the facade of the Suicide Law.
Jan 6, 2020 2:59 PM

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It gave me the chills when Magase Ai said “Seizaki-san”. I really wanna meet this Magase Ai, I wish she existed for real XD
Jan 6, 2020 2:59 PM

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The scary bitch has gone global! 😱

That ending was a bit of a mind fuck! What did the nurse and the other agent hear? Also, I really hope this doesn't mean Seizaki hasn't been trapped in Magase's whisper of madness!
Jan 6, 2020 3:36 PM

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last part freaked me out, love ai, what a demonic woman
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Man they draw Americans so ugly it speaks volumes of what they think of them. .

well politicians tend to be ugly
Jan 6, 2020 3:59 PM

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That ending was great.
''I was dead serious''


Jan 6, 2020 4:24 PM
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Idk why but I don't quite like that fragile old man as the US President. His assistant seemed more befitting but again, the constant portrayal of him being weak and fragile must have some significance. Gotta wait for the next episode.
Jan 6, 2020 4:56 PM

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The show gets infinitely more interesting the moment Magase comes back into the story, even if it's for a brief moment.
Jan 6, 2020 5:17 PM
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Ohh now this series shifts to USA... but amidst being in USA, those americans arw speaking Japanese. Hahaha...

Anyways Mr seisaki still cant get over to Magase Ai that he decided go to USA... and that last scene... where they are listening to the recording... ohhh... i am so excited about this one.
Jan 6, 2020 5:20 PM

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I honestly didn't think they would pull Magase to be disguised on a phone line to get in contact. But they pulled it off with that sweet temptation. The moment the voice started resonating, I knew it was the start of hell again. What a scary ideology to control the world.
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Jan 6, 2020 5:44 PM

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The ending was very intriguing, Magase operating at international levels.

Very curious how they are going to wrap this up in 3 episodes without it feeling messy.
Jan 6, 2020 6:43 PM

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Screw the lazy ass at amazon prime who decided not to translate the on screen text making my ass have to struggle to read it myself. Anyway this episode was great. I love the international aspect of it. I just hope they can still pull off a good ending after expanding the scope of the series so greatly. Also like what is Ai? She basically has superpowers in what seems to be a completely non-super deception of our world. Still burns me out a little, but I can look past it. I wonder if this will be addressed tho.
Jan 6, 2020 7:57 PM

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This show still stays top class consistent!
These US president force is really sharp, and with the help of Seizaki, this is going to be a different ride!!!
damn! even a recording of Magase's voice can cause a cataclysmic hypnotic breakdown effects to Seizaki!
5/5.


Jan 6, 2020 8:21 PM

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Geass was defined precisely as a plot device from the beginning of the story. In the case of Lelouch, people have to look at his eye directly to be hypnotized. In the case of Magase, the scope of her power hasn't been made clear to the audience. This kind of plot development is irritating.

Anyway, if it is possible to hypnotize people through speakers or broadcasting, she must have controlled people without troublesome procedure to date.
Jan 6, 2020 8:52 PM

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I think I read something before that some frequencies can mess with your head and induce the production of chemicals in your brain (not sure if it's legit tho). Is it possible that the frequency of Magase's voice makes the people she whisper to that way?
Jan 6, 2020 9:35 PM

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The ending startled me lol. Won't he be under the effect if he listens to it as well?

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Screw the lazy ass at amazon prime who decided not to translate the on screen text making my ass have to struggle to read it myself.

This pissed me off so much. They left important information crucial to the episode completely untranslated.
Jan 6, 2020 9:53 PM

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I like how the plot is set up and how they completely changed to the US as setting. Now it makes sense to have the president introduced that much. I guess in the last episode they'll return to Japan but until then they will stay in the US.
Jan 6, 2020 10:07 PM
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I like how other countries got involved. It is rare to see this in anime. Also, I thought it was stupid that they spoke in English for a few lines but did the rest in Japanese. They might as well make all of it Japanese.
People with low average anime scores don't have high standards. They are just bad at choosing good anime to watch.
Jan 7, 2020 12:06 AM
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ProofByColor said:
Screw the lazy ass at amazon prime who decided not to translate the on screen text making my ass have to struggle to read it myself. Anyway this episode was great. I love the international aspect of it. I just hope they can still pull off a good ending after expanding the scope of the series so greatly. Also like what is Ai? She basically has superpowers in what seems to be a completely non-super deception of our world. Still burns me out a little, but I can look past it. I wonder if this will be addressed tho.
EdHaku said:
The ending startled me lol. Won't he be under the effect if he listens to it as well?

ProofByColor said:
Screw the lazy ass at amazon prime who decided not to translate the on screen text making my ass have to struggle to read it myself.

This pissed me off so much. They left important information crucial to the episode completely untranslated.


I hope you are considering dropping your subscription to such a low quality, irresponsible service as Amazon.
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Jan 7, 2020 12:08 AM
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Slow talky talky episode but the last moments were worth the wait.We are at 9th episode can they really end it with the last 4 remaining episodes or will they give us a pending time for a 2nd season ??.Seeing as this anime is going to hit big as one of the best 2019 fall anime there is a big chance of that happening right ??

Likely not. This is based on a series of novels by Nozaki Mado, and currently the plot's reached the third and final novel.
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A fast talk from my own unsound insight:

Listen, the presentation of the show is induced by the trendy cult communion through the experience of watching relevant video clips. It's physiologigal activity is named "ASMR" -- Autonomous Sensory Meridian Response. To be rephrased, audible glamour.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_sensory_meridian_response

So put your headphones on. Okay, enjoy... (turns the knob gradually clockwise)
Jan 7, 2020 12:37 AM
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Can't wait for the next episode, nice ending.
Jan 7, 2020 12:47 AM

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First part of the episode was kind of boring to me, ngl. Thank god Zen is back.
The final scene was distubing, that "Seizaki-san" sent shivers down my spine... she's freaking terryfing!

EdHaku said:
ProofByColor said:
Screw the lazy ass at amazon prime who decided not to translate the on screen text making my ass have to struggle to read it myself.

This pissed me off so much. They left important information crucial to the episode completely untranslated.

That was so annoying! Do you guys know the translation for what Zen was reading on his phone?
Jan 7, 2020 1:49 AM
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HikariShoumeiron said:
First part of the episode was kind of boring to me, ngl. Thank god Zen is back.
The final scene was distubing, that "Seizaki-san" sent shivers down my spine... she's freaking terryfing!

EdHaku said:

This pissed me off so much. They left important information crucial to the episode completely untranslated.

That was so annoying! Do you guys know the translation for what Zen was reading on his phone?


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子どもを殺すのは悪いこと。
大人を殺すのは悪いこと。

それはなぜ?


To kill a child is a bad doing.
To kill an adult is a bad doing.

Explain why?
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Jan 7, 2020 3:05 AM

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aReviewer said:
HikariShoumeiron said:
First part of the episode was kind of boring to me, ngl. Thank god Zen is back.
The final scene was distubing, that "Seizaki-san" sent shivers down my spine... she's freaking terryfing!


That was so annoying! Do you guys know the translation for what Zen was reading on his phone?


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子どもを殺すのは悪いこと。
大人を殺すのは悪いこと。

それはなぜ?


To kill a child is a bad doing.
To kill an adult is a bad doing.

Explain why?
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Thank you!
I hope they won't omit translating text in the next episodes.
Jan 7, 2020 6:42 AM

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The screenplay never cease to suprise and keep me interesting. It's almost impossible to be distracted while watching this show. Pretty much the opposite of Psycho-Pass 3
Jan 7, 2020 6:44 AM
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Seizaka reference at the end is probably explained by his PTSD flaring up. Not like Ai traumatized him by chopping his assistant into five oueces right in front of him or anything.

We finally get the mechanics of how Ai works but hopefully we get the rest of the call next episode because s it stands its a hard push to get from there is no god and its over to enact the suicide law for me
Jan 7, 2020 6:46 AM
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DramaticalHearts said:
Isshin_Ashina said:
Slow talky talky episode but the last moments were worth the wait.We are at 9th episode can they really end it with the last 4 remaining episodes or will they give us a pending time for a 2nd season ??.Seeing as this anime is going to hit big as one of the best 2019 fall anime there is a big chance of that happening right ??

Likely not. This is based on a series of novels by Nozaki Mado, and currently the plot's reached the third and final novel.


If this is true then pacing on this is insanely poor
Jan 7, 2020 7:06 AM

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One of my favourite episodes, although all the Nihongo in America somewhat detracts from the immersion, but it's essential for plot and logistics purposes.

Damn, that ending was crazy. Magase is basically a siren at this point.

We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths.
As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are.
That's what death is, don't you think?


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MoneyballMagic said:
DramaticalHearts said:

Likely not. This is based on a series of novels by Nozaki Mado, and currently the plot's reached the third and final novel.


If this is true then pacing on this is insanely poor

Not quite as poor as what I recently experienced with Hoshiai no Sora, but yeah, still not so great. I'm still holding out some hope for a somewhat coherent ending.

The article where I found out about the pacing in regard to the novels: https://anitay.kinja.com/what-the-hell-is-going-on-with-babylon-we-are-not-ok-1839985655

"I did some digging. It’s a 3 novel book series. It just got to the end of the 2nd book. So the last 4-6 episodes will be the final book. So It’s a complete story in its original medium which is a hopeful sign. The books are handily called “Poison”, “Death” and “End”. Death is a fucking understatement for episode 7."
("just got to the end of the 2nd book" is referring to the events of episode 7)
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