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Dec 21, 2009 12:26 PM
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Yazan seems to fail hard in this show.
Sep 19, 2010 2:04 PM
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Somehow I can't take this seriously. Mashymre is a total failure also they made an idiot out of Yazan. This show isn't getting anywhere~
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Dec 8, 2010 2:17 AM
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I don't think you're *suppossed* to take this seriously...
“Money can't buy dere”
Feb 9, 2011 9:53 AM
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I heard this show starts to get serious around the 20 episode mark.. I don't mind the comedy. Its a nice change from the previous 100 episodes of UC Gundam.
May 2, 2011 8:16 PM
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Fa is really useless now. She never did well, but in Zeta at least there wasn't total failure against obvious newbies like Mashymere.

If I recall Yazan was so skilled that he matched Char and Kamille, even without newtype powers. He's become a little... pathetic
Nov 30, 2012 6:36 AM
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Hahaha, wtf is Yazan doing?
Dec 8, 2012 5:36 AM
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I think Mashymre is a nice character! He romanticizes everything and is very funny. To bad he's with Haman ):

And WTF is Yazan? He was such a great villain, and now he sucks.

Judau shows a lot of potential. I think he can become even better than Amuro or Kamille.
Mar 4, 2013 2:08 AM
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The lack of good bitchslaps is disturbing ;_;
May 21, 2013 6:24 PM
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Mushymre. Lol. I figured out my name for him. He's maybe worse than Freddie in My Fair Lady.

I dedicate this song to you and Haman, Mushymre.



Hmm. No, he's slightly more realistic than Freddie. Freddie's just creepy.

xAvengerx said:
The lack of good bitchslaps is disturbing ;_;


If they don't come, this is not Gundam. The Char and Amuro in the recap episode and the Fa, Bright, and random children must be remarkable cameos.
Sep 9, 2013 9:35 AM

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lol that one guy kept on getting his belongings destroyed first his wine, then the luggage, and finally the house. I lol'd hard when his wife passed out. xD

Mashymre rose stem broke and he went insane I'd hate to see what he would do to a poor soul if they crushed it.
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD"
Feb 11, 2014 9:10 PM
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I need at least one good Bright slap up in here.

Yeah they really are making people more pathetic than they should be.
While Fa wasn't exactly good in Zeta she was not as bad as they are making her in this.
This is backwards progression...
Mar 13, 2014 12:41 AM

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Hmm, I see no problem in Fa?

I can see now why this isn't very liked..

It seems they have a habit of spicing up every dull moment with a "fun" joke usually served along a "fun" sound effect.
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parfaited said:

Yeah they really are making people more pathetic than they should be.
While Fa wasn't exactly good in Zeta she was not as bad as they are making her in this.
This is backwards progression...
what they did to fa and yazan is really what bothers me, aside from that im perfectly fine with the comedy.

i hear the series gets more serious later but i hear this is still regarded as the worst of the entire franchise so im not sure if i should go in with any expectation other than this will be a long and tedious ride.

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Apr 10, 2014 5:33 AM

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JizzyHitler said:
i hear the series gets more serious later but i hear this is still regarded as the worst of the entire franchise so im not sure if i should go in with any expectation other than this will be a long and tedious ride.

If you don't absolutely hate ZZ's guts out for the 'awkwardness' and direction change, then you can expect there to be a few decent moments amongst all the weirdness. There'll also be a general tone-shift in the later half or so. Just don't expect another Zeta, or 0079. Keep your mind open, pace yoursself, and ZZ's not as bad as some people make it.
Apr 16, 2014 12:33 AM

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Poor Yazan. He's probably better being killed than being so humiliated.
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Jan 1, 2015 4:48 AM

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Judau finally seems to finally got over the Zeta's controls, that was the most fluid fighting I've seen yet in this series.

These Neo Zeon guys are actually pretty smart they can actually avoid civilian casualties and not blow up the whole damn colony and thus not turn the entire fucking earth sphere against them like the Principality and the titans did.
Jan 15, 2015 9:25 PM

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Great episode!

I'm pissed at that stupid mechanic trying to act like he knows how to use Zeta. Bright should have bright slapped that bitch.

I'm glad Fa bright slapped Judau, but it should have been harder than that :P

Serves that stupid Mayor of the colony. I'm pretty sure he was only able to get that mansion with all the back door deals he has done.

Judau is getting better with Zeta. I like that :)

Yeah Fa should have at least been capable of using Zeta. Don't really care for Yazan. They should have outright killed him instead of sparing him for this season.

Oh well, can't wait for the next episode!
Feb 1, 2016 12:33 PM

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Is Yazan really the same Yazan from Zeta ? He feels like different character
Mar 23, 2016 6:36 AM

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Why is Fa going with the Methuss when she knows it's the one suit that doesn't work?

Why does she have to beg Aikido-kun to pilot the Zeta when she is (or at least used to be) a decent, albeit not great, pilot herself who could deal with fodders and greens like Marshmallow without too much trouble?

Why is Bright unable to properly discipline one shitty brat who's prone to mood swings, but still trusts him with the Argama's safety?

Why is Yazan so fucking pathetic? Is it the character development that you promised me, @ckan?
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Mar 23, 2016 6:49 AM

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Is it the character development that you promised me, @ckan?

As I have no recollection of this promise, and little recollection of these episodes, I can only bid you grit your teeth and pray for your future health.
Apr 16, 2016 9:45 PM

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The tonal shift doesn't bother me too much (probably because I didn't take Zeta too seriously to begin with), but the fact that absolutely nothing has happened in the big picture for 6 episodes is quite annoying. Slow start, I suppose
May 13, 2016 11:42 PM

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Judau is a relatively carefree hero who will certainly learn to accept or take responsibilities later.

"Mushyma" and Neo-Zeon have understood they should not álienate non-Zeon(ist) spacenoids, that's a good thing. I find the guy kind of cute: we rarely followed a pilot/soldier beginner in the opposite camp and his view, his mood are refreshing enough. His delusions are funny and the more flashbacks about Haaman I see the more I think he heavily romanticized her because I don't recognize the bold military leader I saw in Zeta (only the tactical cunning seems still there: not harming colonies, trying to get their support).
I think he is here to stay based on the group "photo" in the opening end.

But... is Fa turned into a joke? Why? Just a few days or weeks ago, she was perfectly able to do her share on the battlefield and now she takes even dumber decisions than in her first sorties, she has becomed unable to take down the small fry! (I even think she should be able to operate the Zeta to a certain extent) If this is her assigned role in ZZ, they should have let her in peace caring for Camille because I don't see the point in humiliating a character you took a year to develop before.

I am not sure to understand the complaints about the slapstick or comedic elements in ZZ, right now it seems more like a side-dish or a joking interruption between "normal" scenes. It is not really disturbing.

3/5


The main problem still seems to be the rythm. We're at episode 6, Axis Zeon is reinforcing itself and in front of it there is... nothing except a damaged ship and his limited MS and crew. I want to know what the global situation is, how do leaders react now that the Terror reign is over and its conspirators dead? Who is taking the leadership? Will the Fed. forces be able to get over the mess they have been reduced to? But... that will probably be hidden behind a thick "battle of the week" format so I won't insist. The fact we're in the dark as much as Bright is an interesting thing on the other hand.


December 4, 2016
@SakurasouBusters Yes, Fa is now officially "jarringly" bad (and the transformation took only a few weeks in term of broadcast). Either to make the most powerful Newtype ever shine in comparison or maybe to grant the watchers their wish, since so many people in Zeta's discussions criticized her as a terrible pilot (possible only if japanese watchers back then had the same mindset as the western Internet crowd).

PS: about last episode vocabulary, you might want to change to another fansub group's work. I didn't notice such words in the english subtitled version I watched.


June 27, 2020
@St0rmblade Pretty sure this funny fool was indeed lying to himself, accordingly to his romantic aspirations of a bygone era.

Beecha - fine

This made my day, thanks !
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Jul 29, 2016 8:01 PM
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Probably my least favorite episode so far. It's just not quite as charming as it sometimes is and the nobelman's stuff getting crushed wasn't as funny as I wanted it to be. Still a pleasant enough way t pass the time, and I loved the Marshmellow crying over his broken rose.
Dec 4, 2016 8:58 AM

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Much better than the previous episode, but i am not a fan of what they have done to FA.
Aug 4, 2017 7:12 AM

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Above all other episodes, this was the one that truly killed Judau as a character for me. FUCK JUDAU!!! Also, fuck ZZ for not only having him, but continuing to make Fa look like a complete joke! She became pretty likable in the second half of Zeta and decently competent towards the end of it, so this is just a slap in the face. Also, quit making Yazan a joke. I want all of the new protagonists so far (minus Elle) to get corrected by Beigt and Wong so hard that Kamille's treatment would like like they were giving him candy! Fuck all of the new characters! They should all die! 1/5
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Dec 25, 2017 10:23 AM

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I actually really enjoyed this episode (and was a billion times better than the last episode) because I saw the potential this show has. It toned down the goofy shit and we saw the serious Gundam at times that we all know and love. I really enjoyed the battles in this.. but WTF is going on with Fa?!? I'm trying to like this show, but the complete crapping on her character from Zeta to ZZ is nonsense.

A lot of knocking on Judau, but still like his attitude. He'll come around at some point.. and yes, we need a Bright bitch slap already.
Feb 10, 2018 8:55 AM

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I'm beginning to question if Mashymre conversations with Haman are all in his head and never happened in reality...

On a side note:
I was on the impression that Yazan would already steal a mobile suit (a damaged one or the one that Gemon has) but so far he is relegated to a comedic role in this show…
Aug 28, 2018 8:42 PM

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Yazan has certainly gone downhill since his Titan days, lol.

Judau seems to be permanently onboard the Argama, but only time will tell.

Jun 26, 2020 3:24 PM

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First slap in the show! Funny talk about jobs and all that

But Fa got nerfed for real, damn. Why Astonaige can't even pilot a Gundam decently? He's been a mechanic for so long!

Yazan is now larping as a cowboy, I see.

Anyway, this episode got more serious.

Some predictions about the new characters:

Iino, Elle - good (I also like their designs the most)
Beecha - fine
Mondo - meh

It'd also be funny if Mashymre had false and heavily romanticized memories of Haman.
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The main character should appreciate his imouto more.
Feb 11, 2023 5:12 AM
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Yayyy Fa finally did something useful again! Maybe this means ZZ is done burying her?

Won't be holding my breath tho.


Still whatever you feel about the way Fa has been portrayed so far in this show....the way they turned the previously menacing Yazan into a complete joke is something else. xD
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Jun 10, 2023 9:13 AM

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what have they done to my boy yazan
Sep 3, 2023 3:22 AM

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i'm loving Mashymre even more

''Touch the darkness inside me''
Dec 2, 2023 4:48 PM
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the fa slander so far is insane. she was kind of a trash pilot in zeta, but there's no way she wouldn't have enough experience by now to beat some idiot like mashymre. she survived fighting in operation maelstrom, but she can't figure out how to pilot the zeta for 5 mins? i also don't really like how they're making the zeta gundam out to be some legendary suit or enemy. it feels very campy, which of course, this whole show is so far. also, pretty weird to see yazan just running around playing some grizzled cowboy so far this show. not sure where they're gonna take his character from here. judau's kind of been spitting with not wanting to become a child soldier, but overall he's still a pretty boring protag as well. kamille was a nutcase early on, but at least he was entertaining lmao. ALSO, these flashbacks of haman from mashymre feel so weird and unlike her. i'm just gonna assume he's making them up ngl.

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