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Oct 5, 2009 3:43 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Another great episode, seriously Macross is doomed, the only way I see for them to survive till the end is getting the help of a part of the "bad guys" (cant spell their name right now)
Jul 30, 2010 4:11 PM
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derp

Aug 17, 2010 11:44 PM
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I think it's interesting the way culture's influence on the Zentradi soldiers is portrayed in this episode. It's almost like a drug.
Oct 17, 2010 9:15 AM
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The character designs were really off this ep -_-
Which made Hikaru's returned obsession with Minmei all the more annoying.
Jan 9, 2011 3:20 AM
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Used the Daedelus attack one too many times. They are gonna f*ck the Macross UP!
Apr 12, 2011 7:52 PM
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Damn that drop didn't kill Kaifun
Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone
May 5, 2011 9:18 PM
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Yeah, the animation and art was especially bad this episode. But, the story is still pretty good and, like previously mentioned, musics effect on the Zentradi is interesting for example, when the soldiers stopped from attacking Minmay and the people at the concert.
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May 17, 2011 9:58 PM
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Confucius said:
Damn that drop didn't kill Kaifun


That bastard has a thick cranium. XD I'm impressed at Kaifun for encouraging Minmay to continue singing but at the same time I'm still mightily annoyed by his statements.

DonKangolJones said:
Used the Daedelus attack one too many times. They are gonna f*ck the Macross UP!


That's because the spies provided the decisive and reliable intelligence on the tactical and operational patterns of Macross. The Zentradis even know what that attack maneuver is called for cryin' out loud!
You see there's no need to wonder where your god is,
Coz he's right here! ...and he's fresh out of mercy.
Jun 8, 2011 2:40 AM
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Kind of cheerd for the Zentradi guys to be able to board on Macross~
Nov 24, 2011 2:12 PM

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The Quality in this episode was pretty bad but still it was an okay episode.
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Nov 4, 2012 5:10 AM
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This is one of those episodes where a lot of the animation was outsourced to another studio and boy does it show sometimes.

If you use a tactic too many times, eventually the enemy will use it against you.
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Nov 19, 2012 11:56 AM

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The bad animation crossed over to hilarious when Kaifun was like "Minmay looks gorgeous, even more than usual!" and then it cuts to the worst drawn shot of Minmay in the whole series.
Feb 4, 2013 10:12 AM
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I thought the quality was passable until the last few minutes. After that, it all seemed like they left it for one guy to finish the night before the episode was supposed to air.

The Zentradi have another clever plan, and Kaifun can't understand the idea of rescheduling a concert despite aliens destroying their city. Things just got interesting.
May 26, 2013 12:28 AM

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Corruption is spreading!

Minmay is blooming... Kaifun starts to fall for her? This is going to make things difficult even more. He has a backbone at least. I wonder how hard he is wounded. And what became of alien deserters.

Both Claudia and Misa (surprise for everyone) in trance about a lovesong.

Confucius said:
Damn that drop didn't kill Kaifun


lol
Hell is empty and all the devils are here.
Oct 5, 2013 4:38 AM

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Looks like Kifun is having a bad case of cousincon. Otherwise I liked how the plot keeps moving forward Zentradi wise.
Mar 31, 2014 7:33 PM

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Minmay has given Kaifu just about the same amount of encouragement as she has given Hikaru, and since she has given him some "movie kisses" as well, I think he actually is farther along the romance trail. Glad to see the spies have now become defectors, that protoculture is just too much to resist. Minor characters certainly don't have any plot armour in this show though, the civilian and enlisted casualties are high as always.
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Aug 25, 2014 2:41 PM
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walla said:
I think it's interesting the way culture's influence on the Zentradi soldiers is portrayed in this episode. It's almost like a drug.

As you said they portrayed culture as means to corrupt(:D) enemy to your way or a way to assimilate people.
It is possible that protoculture also a assimilation device or technic.
This episode was very dramatic.
Jan 9, 2015 11:53 AM
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The animation is getting really bad.
Little kids can draw better than this.
Jan 26, 2015 4:50 AM

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"Maybe if we keep singing they'll surrender!"

I guess it actually worked
Apr 13, 2015 3:54 PM

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Man, they really messed the eyes up horribly on this episode.
May 22, 2015 10:56 AM

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bluzz said:
Man, they really messed the eyes up horribly on this episode.




Nightmares!
Aug 28, 2015 4:16 AM

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Yeah the quality was extremely bad this episode. Xotik's picture is a good example lol.

It's nice that Hikaru found something to fight for even if it's Minmay.
Oct 25, 2015 3:18 PM

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I like how the slice of lifey moments in this show actaully have an effect on the big picture, unlike a lot of shows out there

also i feel like im on the loosing ship :/ but im still misa x hikaru lmao

and i have mixed feelings about kaifun... trying to keep everyone calm, but being an ass a lot of the time...

i was on the losing ship on Macross Frontier as well lol:
Nov 15, 2015 12:11 AM

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XOTIK said:
bluzz said:
Man, they really messed the eyes up horribly on this episode.




Nightmares!
HAHAHA
indeed xD
Aug 10, 2016 10:25 AM

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This series has some really messed up faces.







And there was plenty more than just those.
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Oct 14, 2016 9:21 PM

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Looks like Kaifun all ready to fuck his cousin.
Jun 30, 2017 12:46 PM

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Lol.

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Aug 11, 2017 12:08 PM

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Those spies XD It was totally expected that they would fast miss "culture". But I was surprised by how many people they turned over. Culture exportation is strongly effective.
Also, they have micronization container big enough for their pods? o_O
Also, congratulations to them, between disco dates, stealing and being homeless, they even gathered intel.

4/5 despite the return to bad drawings in force.


So, Kaifun must be behind Do you remember Love?'s scenario. XD


No eyes Minmei looked like Ankoku Dragon Saint in Saint Seiya. XD (fitting for a face-to-face with "Shiryû")

@St0rmblade Thanks for the song's reminder ! I knew I was missing one in my best-of !
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Wow,pretty exiting development and lol at the last scene with Minmay without eyes,budget issues were real xD

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Nov 24, 2017 2:21 AM

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All those derpy faces in this episode lol. How cash-strapped do you have to be to not be able to even afford to draw a couple of irises?

I guess Kaifun being reasonable a couple of episodes back was just him acting out of character after all. And how the hell did he survive after getting hit in the head by that heavy ass stage light?

Dec 16, 2019 12:09 PM

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I'm really trying to love this show, but all of these characters are absolute blithering idiots. It's comical at times.
Jan 28, 2020 1:24 PM

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I just saw this episode, the animation was very funny, I was like "ok they messsed up in this episode" XD In addition in some parts of the episode its unclear whats happening or why is whappening, I dont remember now what were those parts
Mar 1, 2020 3:20 AM

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Zentradi are slowly becoming men of culture. i have a feeling they will manage to desert only to find out their beloved Minmay is captured.
May 28, 2020 5:16 AM

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Kyun kyun...kyun kyun!!
Jul 13, 2020 12:18 PM

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Kaifun is going to have a pineapple salad, it seems.

Kamujin got on board together with Hikaru, oh no

"Love drifts away" was a good song, even though the drawings were meh in many cases. It seems that Minmay got changed into her chinese outlook during the boarding lmao. Was there even anybody watching?
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If fucking Kyun Kyun was the last song I ever heard I'd be so disappointed
Sep 17, 2024 8:56 AM

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Except Kaifun being Kaifun, an absolute idiot who wants to put her cousin in danger for his stupid anti-war ideology with no political analysis, it was a very cool episode and I llike how the story is going. It's still (kinda) less interesting than MSG in the writing and all but it's kinda cool

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