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Aug 5, 2023 12:08 PM
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Paladinight said:
We are told that the hollow power is basically the Quincy's natural counter and the 2 Captains are defeated without even using the Hollow power... While Renji defeats the Mask without any difficulty, easily the worst episode so far.

To play devil’s advocate, it seems that the only way Quincies will be really badly exposed to Hollow power negatively would be internally. They’d probably be killed by some sort of hollowfication or direct hollow injection, but they’d be able to survive a Cero as well as anything else.

That being said, it didn’t need to be a hard rule, and Kubo could’ve played it up to allow the Vizored captains to actually be able to be formidable against the quincies and accomplish something. They have a history of being trash. It’s complete nonsense that they come in, do nothing but show off Bankai, then get smacked and Renji of all people has to clean up their mess. Awful writing.
Aug 5, 2023 12:16 PM

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That's Renji's wildest victory ever. Also his new theme song almost rivals that of Ichigo's Number One.
Aug 5, 2023 12:18 PM

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Renji came back with a bang! Enjoyed this episode a lot. The new ost was really cool & can't wait to see Rukia back on action soon!
Aug 5, 2023 12:29 PM

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ShamankinguYoh said:
Paladinight said:
We are told that the hollow power is basically the Quincy's natural counter and the 2 Captains are defeated without even using the Hollow power... While Renji defeats the Mask without any difficulty, easily the worst episode so far.
That being said, it didn’t need to be a hard rule, and Kubo could’ve played it up to allow the Vizored captains to actually be able to be formidable against the quincies and accomplish something. They have a history of being trash. It’s complete nonsense that they come in, do nothing but show off Bankai, then get smacked and Renji of all people has to clean up their mess. Awful writing.
Why is Renji sweeping "awful writing" when he just came fresh out of Royal Palace training with Squad Zero with full realization of his power, making him a Captain level+ Shinigami at this point? And on top of that, why is this newly boosted supporting character who had a history of jobbing finally being of formidable use "awful writing"?

You see, Kubo designs all his characters with care. In spite of how diverse and expansive Bleach's side cast is, every character is still given a purpose and role that contributes to their development and/or the narrative even if it's meek compared to the protagonists, such as Isane and Nanao. This isn't Kishimoto we're talking about, who wrote the worst side cast in the history of shounen e.g. TenTen who was utterly worthless in the 4GNW.
Aug 5, 2023 12:38 PM
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Renji's true bankai dope 🔥🔥
Aug 5, 2023 12:41 PM
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YuuLing96 said:
ShamankinguYoh said:
That being said, it didn’t need to be a hard rule, and Kubo could’ve played it up to allow the Vizored captains to actually be able to be formidable against the quincies and accomplish something. They have a history of being trash. It’s complete nonsense that they come in, do nothing but show off Bankai, then get smacked and Renji of all people has to clean up their mess. Awful writing.
Why is Renji sweeping "awful writing" when he just came fresh out of Royal Palace training with Squad Zero with full realization of his power, making him a Captain level Shinigami at this point? And on top of that, why is this newly boosted supporting character who had a history of jobbing finally being of formidable use "awful writing"?

You see, Kubo designs all his characters with care. In spite of how diverse and expansive Bleach's side cast is, every character is still given a purpose and role that contributes to their development and/or the narrative even if it's meek compared to the protagonists, such as Isane and Nanao. This isn't Kishimoto we're talking about, who wrote the worst side cast in the history of shounen e.g. TenTen who was utterly worthless in the 4GNW.

That’s a common misconception. Kishimoto’s characters, main and side alike, contributed to the themes and world building, and were intelligently utilized throughout the story so as not to take away from the core narrative and characters. Obviously some never got their moments like Shino and yes Tenten, but for the most part characters came into the narrative, contributed their part, then exited stage left. This left many characters feeling memorable and impactful. Much better than how Kubo handled his ridiculously bloated and impotent cast.

The only thing Kubo was good at was the character designs themselves. He populates his series with awful characters who exist to pad out the overly long and plodding narrative. Bleach doesn’t have much of a story to speak of anyway, and what is there is a series of nonsense contrivances with no substantive core. Bleach is a series where a crap ton of poorly written characters repeatedly engage in combat against new trash enemies over and over with little to no plot development to be seen. Just awful.
ShamankinguYohAug 5, 2023 12:57 PM
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So Oh Zabimaru was insane, if he grew that much I wonder how far Ichigo can go?
Aug 5, 2023 1:02 PM

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Very happy to see again Rukia and Renji ^^
Renji finish the battle very fast with his real bankai (full name bankai i should say)
Kensei and Rose defeated, but like the manga they didn't use hollow transformation who could be like poison on the quincy... why not maybe they have forgotten have it after their return on captains role lol
Aug 5, 2023 1:17 PM
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How are you guys able to watch the episode? I went on Disney plus to watch it when it came out but it’s not there.
Aug 5, 2023 1:39 PM

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PEAK EP and I'm sure the next one will be even better.

YuuLing96 said:
ShamankinguYoh said:
That being said, it didn’t need to be a hard rule, and Kubo could’ve played it up to allow the Vizored captains to actually be able to be formidable against the quincies and accomplish something. They have a history of being trash. It’s complete nonsense that they come in, do nothing but show off Bankai, then get smacked and Renji of all people has to clean up their mess. Awful writing.
Why is Renji sweeping "awful writing" when he just came fresh out of Royal Palace training with Squad Zero with full realization of his power, making him a Captain level+ Shinigami at this point? And on top of that, why is this newly boosted supporting character who had a history of jobbing finally being of formidable use "awful writing"?

You see, Kubo designs all his characters with care. In spite of how diverse and expansive Bleach's side cast is, every character is still given a purpose and role that contributes to their development and/or the narrative even if it's meek compared to the protagonists, such as Isane and Nanao. This isn't Kishimoto we're talking about, who wrote the worst side cast in the history of shounen e.g. TenTen who was utterly worthless in the 4GNW.
There is no reason to engage in discussion with this troll. He has been shitting on Bleach since 1 cour, he doesn't like anything in TYBW and nitpicks whenever there is a chance. Well, actually he just says this and that is bad without giving any sensible examples
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SOO ZABIMARU BLEACH SEASON !!!
Aug 5, 2023 2:10 PM

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Wow feels like its been ages since we last saw Renji in action.
Good to see him finally actually beating someone lol, also that new Bankai looks really cool.
Aug 5, 2023 2:12 PM

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better than ep 4, but still looks like the anime is in a rush
Aug 5, 2023 2:13 PM
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Oh there was a lot going on in this episode. It appeared that Superstar is really strong since he could handle Muguruma and Ōtoribashi at once. I can't wait for Ichigo to show up.
Aug 5, 2023 2:19 PM

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This show is just too good; I loved superstar as a villain but Renji's entrance was siiiiick. Made short work of the guy. Hope the captains will be okay.
Aug 5, 2023 2:29 PM

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Finally one of the most annoying quincy is down. Rukia's fight will be crazy too, can't wait to see it animated.
Aug 5, 2023 2:41 PM

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Ah yes, two captains jobbing to a gag character while refusing to even use their full power just so everyone's favorite jobber to the stars (Renji) can come and sweep immediately do to some unseen offscreen training.  Except with even less time than the manga
Aug 5, 2023 2:49 PM
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great episode, some good fight and Reiji is back with a new flow...
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Aug 5, 2023 3:15 PM
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animation was so good
Aug 5, 2023 3:24 PM

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Excellent animation and the Seiyuu of Mask nailed his role.
                                                                       
Aug 5, 2023 3:26 PM
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Good episode some of the trolls are having chest pains right now,studio peirrots doing good with focusing on bleach only😂
Aug 5, 2023 3:46 PM

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so now renji wayyyy stronger than captains nice
Aug 5, 2023 3:53 PM

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Why is Renji sweeping "awful writing" when he just came fresh out of Royal Palace training with Squad Zero with full realization of his power, making him a Captain level+ Shinigami at this point? And on top of that, why is this newly boosted supporting character who had a history of jobbing finally being of formidable use "awful writing"?

I'm surprised you even have to ask. The dude got a Bankai upgrade based on a ridiculous contrivance like "you didn't know Zabimaru's real Bankai name", which was stupid 10 years ago in the manga and is still stupid now. It's like when Yammy revealed that he was Espada 0 when we had previously been told that the Espada were ranked from 1 to 10. Both come across as just bullshit retconning.

Moreover, in usual Bleach fashion, Renji's Bankai was coincidentally one of the few that could've beaten Mask since it literally broke him down into ashes and made it impossible for him to regenerate. Few abilities would've been able to do that, but Kubo loves fights like this where the good guys just happen to have the exact counter necessary to beat their enemies even if said counter is asinine and never comes into play again.
Aug 5, 2023 4:33 PM

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probably the most boring episode from both cours so far ngl, don't like or care about the wrestler dude at all. renji's entrance was kinda cool though and his true bankai reveal was very cool. kansei got taken out and the other dude transcended donuts and became a star, if you catch my drift. his bankai was so and so though. kensei saying 'bankai' reminded me of gintoki parodying it lmao.
Aug 5, 2023 4:57 PM

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Otoriboshi's Bankai was actually really visually impressive here, I think the CGI effect actually worked really well
Of course it didn't really end up doing much
The great Renji and Rukia return, yippee!
An okay episode, I'm looking forward to Renji and Rukia's further actions later onward
Aug 5, 2023 5:50 PM
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Waste of time. Main story hasn't advanced. Just more inconsequential side battles.
Aug 5, 2023 6:28 PM

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I never really cared about Kensei and Rose since they didn't have much development, but it was neat to see them show off even though they ended up getting thrashed anyway. Also, I guess they can't use their Hollow powers now for some reason, which is unfortunate given the Quincies should be weak to it.

It's nice to see Renji back in action after so long, and outmatching Superstar easily with his true Bankai, So-Oh Zabimaru. He's definitely Captain level at this point, so hopefully Rukia will have her time to shine next.
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The Superstar fight scenes have been masterfully handled! Bravo!!!
Aug 5, 2023 6:52 PM
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Abarai Renji is back with his Zabimaru!!!
Aug 5, 2023 6:57 PM

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Early_Morning said:
Why is Renji sweeping "awful writing" when he just came fresh out of Royal Palace training with Squad Zero with full realization of his power, making him a Captain level+ Shinigami at this point? And on top of that, why is this newly boosted supporting character who had a history of jobbing finally being of formidable use "awful writing"?

I'm surprised you even have to ask. The dude got a Bankai upgrade based on a ridiculous contrivance like "you didn't know Zabimaru's real Bankai name", which was stupid 10 years ago in the manga and is still stupid now. It's like when Yammy revealed that he was Espada 0 when we had previously been told that the Espada were ranked from 1 to 10. Both come across as just bullshit retconning.

Moreover, in usual Bleach fashion, Renji's Bankai was coincidentally one of the few that could've beaten Mask since it literally broke him down into ashes and made it impossible for him to regenerate. Few abilities would've been able to do that, but Kubo loves fights like this where the good guys just happen to have the exact counter necessary to beat their enemies even if said counter is asinine and never comes into play again.

Mask can only regenerate if James is alive (and he says James or himself will eventually revive as long as the other's around). Renji was able to permanently kill him because James hadn't revived yet, not because he could turn him to ash.

Aug 5, 2023 7:21 PM
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Renji's new bankai is cool but I'm going to miss seeing the old one if he stops using it.
Aug 5, 2023 7:39 PM

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Now Rose, what have we learned from this fight? That's right: don't tell your opponent how your ability works, and he won't be able to come up with countermeasures nearly as easily (or at all, hopefully).
Aug 5, 2023 7:49 PM
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perfect episode.
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This episode slaps and is the best of the season so far. Love seeing Kensei get jobbed, Kensei sucks. Rose's bankai is sick af and looks great in the anime. it's too bad he's an idiot. Renji's bankai is boring. I actually prefer his previous bankai. Regardless, episode is still great. Hoping next episode gets the same treatment. As Nodt vs Rukia is one of the best fights in the arc imo. 

Aug 5, 2023 7:55 PM

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1000% peak episode and the music during renji fight was fire
Aug 5, 2023 8:21 PM
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I liked the episode but again Kubo totally wasting 2 captains for no reason, they could just totally take on Mask and even use their hollow powers but no, they just show up, use bankai and are humiliated, and i do agree Renji bankai power up explanation can totally comes off as bullshit, when you think for a moment is basically like "hey, you just didn't know the complete name of your bankai, so i will tell you now and BAM!!! You're now 2x more powerful than 2 captains together!".
Aug 5, 2023 9:03 PM
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renji the goat bro im so happy his only dub got animated lmao
Aug 5, 2023 9:30 PM

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For the first time ever Renji actually looked pretty cool.
Aug 5, 2023 9:41 PM
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James was defeated by renji with his fully awakened bankai that was a nice scene to behold.
Aug 5, 2023 9:44 PM
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IM CUMMING OMFG I LOVE RENJI LET ME DATE HIM
Aug 5, 2023 10:08 PM
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Renji is better as a villain
Aug 5, 2023 10:41 PM
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Superstar was surprisingly a really enjoyable villian
Aug 5, 2023 10:56 PM
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"Bleach TBYW Episode 4" is a triumph in every sense of the word. It reaffirms why Bleach has remained an anime and manga powerhouse for so long. If you're a fan of captivating storytelling, jaw-dropping action, and unforgettable characters, this episode is an absolute must-watch. Prepare to be enchanted and enthralled by the magic that only Bleach can deliver!"
Aug 5, 2023 11:10 PM
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Stark700 said:
Finally, we get to see some Kensai in action. I know he's not among the strongest captains but he has a strong will to fight in this war. It's kinda sad to see all the bodies fallen and Shinigami struggling against their enemies though.

About time this season showed more of Renji too. Between all the drama and action, I think they handled some of the comedic moments well. Renji hasn't lost his touch yet with his skills and I'm impressed. 
Kensai definitely had it coming to get pulverized like that, guy should have realized something was wrong when Shūhei Hisagi was defeated; had Kensai used his Bankai AND his Hollow Mask then maybe the fight would have gone a different direction. So Kensai Really can't scold  Shūhei for his lose there; as the saying goes, Carelessness is your worst enemy. Anyway, I am just sad that Kensai and Rose didn't get to show off more of their Bankai since, compared to Renji, I feel we only got to see the surface of those two's Bankai, meh. 

Anyway, I know it was a popular anime trope, back in the day, but the enemy's power (to get Stronger from the "Cheers" of people), now I understand how Silly that looks from the perspective of the protagonists.
Aug 5, 2023 11:16 PM
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Sir-C said:
Kind of a shame they cut out like half of Renji's fight. In the manga he was destroying Mask with his bare hands up until he used Vollstandig


They decided to go for “hit but not affected” way to show he’s strong. The manga was def better tho
Aug 5, 2023 11:19 PM
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ShamankinguYoh said:
Paladinight said:
We are told that the hollow power is basically the Quincy's natural counter and the 2 Captains are defeated without even using the Hollow power... While Renji defeats the Mask without any difficulty, easily the worst episode so far.

To play devil’s advocate, it seems that the only way Quincies will be really badly exposed to Hollow power negatively would be internally. They’d probably be killed by some sort of hollowfication or direct hollow injection, but they’d be able to survive a Cero as well as anything else.

That being said, it didn’t need to be a hard rule, and Kubo could’ve played it up to allow the Vizored captains to actually be able to be formidable against the quincies and accomplish something. They have a history of being trash. It’s complete nonsense that they come in, do nothing but show off Bankai, then get smacked and Renji of all people has to clean up their mess. Awful writing.


Seems to be a “rule” or an honor matter for those who got reintroduce to soul society.

All I can say is, hollow masks will still be a thing going forward.
Aug 5, 2023 11:37 PM
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The episode wasn't bad due to the animation which was great, however, I still dislike the mid writing though, it's always the same boring formula here, the good guys start beating the bad guys, the bad guy gets a powerup and beats the good guy, good guy gets a powerup and beats bad guy, rinse and repeat, bullshit powerups and UNO reverse cards all around here, the same basic shit which I find boring.

We suddenly have Renji who apparently is stronger than 2 captains combined, hell let's throw in another captain, Renji can probably defeat 3 captains now because why not? Renji finished that fight and he has plenty of energy to spare, look, I'm happy that Renji got stronger and all but seeing Renji getting this strong so fucking soon is silly, this is the definition of mid writing, having these bullshit powerups and UNO reverse cards to finally defeat the enemy and have the plot moving on just to rinse and repeat because we will be seeing this shit over and over again in this arc is just silly.

And poor Vizards, turning them into the laughing stock just to make Renji shine is silly. Geez I wish I can get one dollar every time I say silly, whoops! I said it again! that's another dollar!
Aug 6, 2023 12:15 AM

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9:24 - Pierrot, you can't just remix Here To Stay without giving me a warning first. That OST is pure nostalgia.
14:00 - Lmao, Renji has no chill, he just immediately decapitates James without a second thought. Byakuya has taught him well.

How the hell did this episode go so hard?! When I first read this fight in the manga, I thought it was one of the most boring fights in TYBW, but the anime adaptation unironically managed to make this the best episode of the season so far. And I'm not just talking about the animation, all the other pieces fell perfectly in place as well; the direction, the pacing, the choice of OST, everything was on point.

RIP Superstar ⭐

5/5
Aug 6, 2023 12:48 AM

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That was sick! Love the renji come back and the death of Superstar :)
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