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| Ayo Bosse you've got to put that boulder back in the ground before Ouken breaks out of it. Was funny seeing Bojji's reaction to Ouken getting beaten to a pulp compared to everyone else's. |
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| what is happening??? at first Bosse coming and smack everyone including Bojji, and minute later heal all of them... i'm sure not the only one get confused here right? |
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| The writing in this show's 2nd cour is so all over the place. I did like how Bosse handled Ouken though. |
| What the fuck is even going on anymore? The writing in this second cour is just an absolute shambles, from the never-ending fakeout deaths (oh, of course Bosse would just so happen to have the healing powers to save everyone too when Hilling can't, and of course the captain can stop bleeding) to character motivations just being all over the place. Seriously, we've got three episodes left and I still have absolutely no idea what Bosse or Miranjo are even trying to do anymore. Also, what sort of insane asspull is the show gonna come out with to justify any situation where Bojji can beat Bosse in combat? And why do they even still need to fight at this point? This show's decline in quality from first cour to second cour is just honestly astonishing. How the hell did this happen? |
AtavisticMar 4, 2022 5:17 AM
Atavistic said: What the fuck is even going on anymore? The writing in this second cour is just an absolute shambles, from the never-ending fakeout deaths (oh, of course Bosse would just so happen to have the healing powers to save everyone too when Hilling can't, and of course the captain can stop bleeding) to character motivations just being all over the place. Seriously, we've got three episodes left and I still have absolutely no idea what Bosse or Miranjo are even trying to do anymore. Also, what sort of insane asspull is the show gonna come out with to justify any situation where Bojji can beat Bosse in combat? And why do they even still need to fight at this point? This show's decline in quality from first cour to second cour is just honestly astonishing. How the hell did this happen? Be patient, the next two episodes are going to explain everything that doesn't make sense at all right now. The manga also treat it as a mystery to the very end of this first arc. |
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| King Bosse handled Ouken with ease by sealing him away and burying him 6ft under so he won't regenerate. I still don't understand why Bosse beat everyone up just to turn around and heal them again. Miranjo came face to face with her mother and Bojji's mom in the afterlife, but she is unable to crossover because the devil has her soul and placed her in the mirror before she died. So I'm guessing the next episode is the long awaited battle between Bojji and King Bosse/Daida. |
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| As soon as Bosse showed up, I knew he was gonna help them. Once you realize that all the characters are actually good guys pretending to be villains, everything makes sense. |
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Tasel said: As soon as Bosse showed up, I knew he was gonna help them. Once you realize that all the characters are actually good guys pretending to be villains, everything makes sense. I don't think there are "good guys and bad guys" as in "black and white morality" in this series, though we do have 3 "good guys" for sure. So far in the anime, they are all more like gray with the exception perhaps of Bojji himself, Miranjo's mother and Hokuro (which are quite the "goodest bois" in this series). Their biggest flaw is their gullibility, which despite being harmful to them, their good nature usually making it worth it in the long run, as they influence other characters to be better, even after their deaths/apparent deaths (the latter in Bojji's case, the former in Miranjo's mom's, and applicable through Bojji's in Hokuro's case). For some examples: - His brother sent his teacher to kill him (who actually attempted murdering him despite his regrets for doing so), though he is just trying to live up to his father's name as a good king, and is repeatedly shown to be much less evil-hearted than he appeared to be at first. - The King (will avoid spoilers from the manga, so just from the anime) is a power hungry bastard that learned how to have a heart through genuine people that shown him the light, and dedicated himself to the surviving girl of the people after genociding the ones who defigured and mutilated her (which in turn, were a population that grew to be more and more hateful and bad-natured after being betrayed and getting screwed so many times in the past). - Miranjo was a sweetheart like her mom, horridly had a taste of humanity at their most evil, and never was the same after that (and the rest of her story is kind of spoiler for the next two episodes). - Satun (a freaking GOD), despite being someone who always developed humanity on his rule towards the better with technology, got corrupted by his obssession and fear towards death, which made him go insane and murderous until he was killed by his children, who themselves because of war, were also responsible for several atrocities they also regret. The list goes on for every single character other than those 3 (and the beasts/animals, I guess?), even Kage (who in fact, is the very first character to be shown in such a light after taking advantage of Bojji gullibility and emotional dependence of a friend to talk to, for a while). They are all multi-facet with their own issues, motivations and ideals. The point being that in this world, no one is inherently evil in nature, but they aren't incorruptable, much like any human isn't. Their desires for the most part drive them towards sin, which is in this case, the think they all inherit. There's a lot of Shinto-Buddhism humanity in here, much like most works in Japan. This episode puts it like "dealing with the sin, you may help the sinners against it" in a way. For a minor example, sort of how killing thieves is usually considered not the best way to combat theft. Theft will continue until people have no reason to resort to it, which also applies to good education on why it shouldn't be a thing, rather than just "solving monetary issues that led them to that end". And if the person is propense towards evil more than others even then, it's jail time, which will be a much more excruciating long time punishment to them, which will probably make them think twice before wasting even more of their lives behind the bars. All in all, not my personal belief for how to solve everything universally (not like we have any example of an effective Utopia anyway, humans are naturally flawed, and so will their government always be), but it isn't really trying to, it's just another religious belief towards good, which on itself at least is well-intentioned for humanity's progress. |
DanpmssMar 5, 2022 7:46 AM
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Danpmss said: Tasel said: As soon as Bosse showed up, I knew he was gonna help them. Once you realize that all the characters are actually good guys pretending to be villains, everything makes sense. I don't think there are "good guys and bad guys" as in "black and white morality" in this series, though we do have 3 "good guys" for sure. So far in the anime, they are all more like gray with the exception perhaps of Bojji himself, Miranjo's mother and Hokuro (which are quite the "goodest bois" in this series). Their biggest flaw is their gullibility, which despite being harmful to them, their good nature usually making it worth it in the long run, as they influence other characters to be better, even after their deaths/apparent deaths (the latter in Bojji's case, the former in Miranjo's mom's, and applicable through Bojji's in Hokuro's case). For some examples: - His brother sent his teacher to kill him (who actually attempted murdering him despite his regrets for doing so), though he is just trying to live up to his father's name as a good king, and is repeatedly shown to be much less evil-hearted than he appeared to be at first. - The King (will avoid spoilers from the manga, so just from the anime) is a power hungry bastard that learned how to have a heart through genuine people that shown him the light, and dedicated himself to the surviving girl of the people after genociding the ones who defigured and mutilated her (which in turn, were a population that grew to be more and more hateful and bad-natured after being betrayed and getting screwed so many times in the past). - Miranjo was a sweetheart like her mom, horridly had a taste of humanity at their most evil, and never was the same after that (and the rest of her story is kind of spoiler for the next two episodes). - Satun (a freaking GOD), despite being someone who always developed humanity on his rule towards the better with technology, got corrupted by his obssession and fear towards death, which made him go insane and murderous until he was killed by his children, who themselves because of war, were also responsible for several atrocities they also regret. The list goes on for every single character other than those 3 (and the beasts/animals, I guess?), even Kage (who in fact, is the very first character to be shown in such a light after taking advantage of Bojji gullibility and emotional dependence of a friend to talk to, for a while). They are all multi-facet with their own issues, motivations and ideals. The point being that in this world, no one is inherently evil in nature, but they aren't incorruptable, much like any human isn't. Their desires for the most part drive them towards sin, which is in this case, the think they all inherit. There's a lot of Shinto-Buddhism humanity in here, much like most works in Japan. This episode puts it like "dealing with the sin, you may help the sinners against it" in a way. For a minor example, sort of how killing thieves is usually considered not the best way to combat theft. Theft will continue until people have no reason to resort to it, which also applies to good education on why it shouldn't be a thing, rather than just "solving monetary issues that led them to that end". And if the person is propense towards evil more than others even then, it's jail time, which will be a much more excruciating long time punishment to them, which will probably make them think twice before wasting even more of their lives behind the bars. All in all, not my personal belief for how to solve everything universally (not like we have any example of an effective Utopia anyway, humans are naturally flawed, and so will their government always be), but it isn't really trying to, it's just another religious belief towards good, which on itself at least is well-intentioned for humanity's progress. Really good explanation and I couldn't say better... but that Satun part isn't some spoiler because I don't remember this in anime (did anime skipped this part or I missed it)? |
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Nieznajomy43 said: Danpmss said: I don't think there are "good guys and bad guys" as in "black and white morality" in this series, though we do have 3 "good guys" for sure. So far in the anime, they are all more like gray with the exception perhaps of Bojji himself, Miranjo's mother and Hokuro (which are quite the "goodest bois" in this series). Their biggest flaw is their gullibility, which despite being harmful to them, their good nature usually making it worth it in the long run, as they influence other characters to be better, even after their deaths/apparent deaths (the latter in Bojji's case, the former in Miranjo's mom's, and applicable through Bojji's in Hokuro's case). For some examples: - His brother sent his teacher to kill him (who actually attempted murdering him despite his regrets for doing so), though he is just trying to live up to his father's name as a good king, and is repeatedly shown to be much less evil-hearted than he appeared to be at first. - The King (will avoid spoilers from the manga, so just from the anime) is a power hungry bastard that learned how to have a heart through genuine people that shown him the light, and dedicated himself to the surviving girl of the people after genociding the ones who defigured and mutilated her (which in turn, were a population that grew to be more and more hateful and bad-natured after being betrayed and getting screwed so many times in the past). - Miranjo was a sweetheart like her mom, horridly had a taste of humanity at their most evil, and never was the same after that (and the rest of her story is kind of spoiler for the next two episodes). - Satun (a freaking GOD), despite being someone who always developed humanity on his rule towards the better with technology, got corrupted by his obssession and fear towards death, which made him go insane and murderous until he was killed by his children, who themselves because of war, were also responsible for several atrocities they also regret. The list goes on for every single character other than those 3 (and the beasts/animals, I guess?), even Kage (who in fact, is the very first character to be shown in such a light after taking advantage of Bojji gullibility and emotional dependence of a friend to talk to, for a while). They are all multi-facet with their own issues, motivations and ideals. The point being that in this world, no one is inherently evil in nature, but they aren't incorruptable, much like any human isn't. Their desires for the most part drive them towards sin, which is in this case, the think they all inherit. There's a lot of Shinto-Buddhism humanity in here, much like most works in Japan. This episode puts it like "dealing with the sin, you may help the sinners against it" in a way. For a minor example, sort of how killing thieves is usually considered not the best way to combat theft. Theft will continue until people have no reason to resort to it, which also applies to good education on why it shouldn't be a thing, rather than just "solving monetary issues that led them to that end". And if the person is propense towards evil more than others even then, it's jail time, which will be a much more excruciating long time punishment to them, which will probably make them think twice before wasting even more of their lives behind the bars. All in all, not my personal belief for how to solve everything universally (not like we have any example of an effective Utopia anyway, humans are naturally flawed, and so will their government always be), but it isn't really trying to, it's just another religious belief towards good, which on itself at least is well-intentioned for humanity's progress. Really good explanation and I couldn't say better... but that Satun part isn't some spoiler because I don't remember this in anime (did anime skipped this part or I missed it)? The anime explained he wasn't always tyrannical, but that he turned twisted as he became obsessed with immortality. Beforehand, his reign was focused in technological advances. The manga gives you a tid bit more detail on it iirc (more regarding about Gods rulings over mortal kingdoms in Ousama Ranking's world), but they are basically the very same. |
DanpmssMar 5, 2022 9:03 AM
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| Yeah theres a contradiction to Bosse now, He and Miranjo wants to be together while eliminating the whole family. The plan went well, but then Bosse starts healing them. And of course everyone gets healed up, which does not put things at stake. It's like the one side that always wins. I don't feel the dangers from Miranjos planing. |
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| Bosse's dealing with Ouken was so satisfying. |
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Danpmss said: Tasel said: As soon as Bosse showed up, I knew he was gonna help them. Once you realize that all the characters are actually good guys pretending to be villains, everything makes sense. I don't think there are "good guys and bad guys" as in "black and white morality" in this series, though we do have 3 "good guys" for sure. So far in the anime, they are all more like gray with the exception perhaps of Bojji himself, Miranjo's mother and Hokuro (which are quite the "goodest bois" in this series). Their biggest flaw is their gullibility, which despite being harmful to them, their good nature usually making it worth it in the long run, as they influence other characters to be better, even after their deaths/apparent deaths (the latter in Bojji's case, the former in Miranjo's mom's, and applicable through Bojji's in Hokuro's case). For some examples: - His brother sent his teacher to kill him (who actually attempted murdering him despite his regrets for doing so), though he is just trying to live up to his father's name as a good king, and is repeatedly shown to be much less evil-hearted than he appeared to be at first. - The King (will avoid spoilers from the manga, so just from the anime) is a power hungry bastard that learned how to have a heart through genuine people that shown him the light, and dedicated himself to the surviving girl of the people after genociding the ones who defigured and mutilated her (which in turn, were a population that grew to be more and more hateful and bad-natured after being betrayed and getting screwed so many times in the past). - Miranjo was a sweetheart like her mom, horridly had a taste of humanity at their most evil, and never was the same after that (and the rest of her story is kind of spoiler for the next two episodes). - Satun (a freaking GOD), despite being someone who always developed humanity on his rule towards the better with technology, got corrupted by his obssession and fear towards death, which made him go insane and murderous until he was killed by his children, who themselves because of war, were also responsible for several atrocities they also regret. The list goes on for every single character other than those 3 (and the beasts/animals, I guess?), even Kage (who in fact, is the very first character to be shown in such a light after taking advantage of Bojji gullibility and emotional dependence of a friend to talk to, for a while). They are all multi-facet with their own issues, motivations and ideals. The point being that in this world, no one is inherently evil in nature, but they aren't incorruptable, much like any human isn't. Their desires for the most part drive them towards sin, which is in this case, the think they all inherit. There's a lot of Shinto-Buddhism humanity in here, much like most works in Japan. This episode puts it like "dealing with the sin, you may help the sinners against it" in a way. For a minor example, sort of how killing thieves is usually considered not the best way to combat theft. Theft will continue until people have no reason to resort to it, which also applies to good education on why it shouldn't be a thing, rather than just "solving monetary issues that led them to that end". And if the person is propense towards evil more than others even then, it's jail time, which will be a much more excruciating long time punishment to them, which will probably make them think twice before wasting even more of their lives behind the bars. All in all, not my personal belief for how to solve everything universally (not like we have any example of an effective Utopia anyway, humans are naturally flawed, and so will their government always be), but it isn't really trying to, it's just another religious belief towards good, which on itself at least is well-intentioned for humanity's progress. I don't mean literally "good", I worded that incorrectly, what I mean is that everyone is nice inside but are forced to do the wrong things because of their circumstances. My comment was directed to the people that are confused why Bosse or Miranjo or every other characters seem to help both sides. |
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| Bosse is really scary even with half strength.. He literally buried ouken shikamaru style |
| Bosse is really scary even with half strength.. He literally buried ouken shikamaru style |
StardustReverie said: This is one of those shows where no one ever dies and they're just kept as cheerleaders in the background. Then the amount of cheerleaders just keeps growing until you get this episode where it just looks ridiculous having them all in the same shot. A bunch of non-characters whose plots are basically finished at this point, if they even had any. Kage is the worst of them all. He's basically speedwagon but far more annoying. lol Kage as speedwagon is the perfect way to descibe him |
| 3 more episode left! damn! if Ouken is just a child's play against the mighty King Bosse when what about Bojji vs King Bosse??!? that's really really bad news!! damn! but as we all know there's all sorts of unexpectedness that would always happen! that's the best thing about this masterpiece of a show is! 5/5. |
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MrOmix_ said: i don't get why Bosse would first hit everyone but then think shit i just killed everyone including my son let's heal them all. like why hit them first through? what's the meaning behind it expect a lame twist? He just thrown them close to each other rather brutally to cure them in a single area. In the manga is rather more apparent through the panelling, but I think you can also figure that out in the anime tbh. |
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| Bossaida finally decided to leave his cell? Why did they seem upset at how Bosse defeated Ouken? There was no other way. I thought he was going to turn Ouken into a homerun ball and hit him n2 space. There's still a chance he turns him into a comet or meteor. Thrown n2 the sun is the best choice. I wish Queen Shina had seen Boji. |
neoncowboy said: I have seen a lot of positivity around this ep but I just no longer understand this show. The only characters that seem flushed out to me are kage and boji. Everyone else has these mismatched motivations that flip flop every single episode. I still don’t understand the motivations reply of a single character in this show and just want to acknowledge the absurd amount of plot armor that it utilizes. Like why is everyone just dying and being revived. The stakes are so low and the characters actions don’t feel important. I wanted to love this show and did for the first 13 episodes but I just can’t anymore. Its a shame, I really enjoyed the first dozen episodes. I'm not sure how the plot has turned into a complete mess, the writing went from masterful to amateurish. Just this episode alone had its problems, Bojji realized who killed his mother was underwhelming (just accepts it without a problem), everyone getting healed out of nowhere the tension is all gone now. (feels like the characters will always have a get out of jail card) I thought the spear guy was still loyal to Miranjo but I guess not anymore? I don't even think this is the anime's fault, its likely the source material which is inconsistent. |
IbsMar 7, 2022 3:53 PM
| ouken screams totally terrified me. It looks like it's real. |
| Yooo... WTF. Did I really forget to write the last episode's forum discussion? LOL Well, King Bosse is too strong and we saw Bojji challenging him for a fight. How's it gonna go? |
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| So at this point I feel like Miranjo is nothing than just stupid, but damn Eren Yeager Bosse was really creepy against Ouken but with this strategy he managed to definitely seal him I suppose |
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| lmao what a mess I can't ahaha lizzziziz said: HUH?? WHAT EVEN.$?$($+- "hate the sin, not the sinner" line can work in some cases but i dont think its ? that great at all? maybe the worst scenario's are just coming up in my head for it rn but that was wack. im also still not into miranjo no matter how pitiful and sad her story is lol. haha "You killed me brutally in front of my little son and tried to kill him too afterwards but I'm over it now :] I kinda hate the fact that you did that, but I guess I can't hate you, you poor cute girlie :]] I see now you just want to travel with your old friend Bosse again... god bless :']" |
| see you, space cowperson . . . |
Sorvarin said: LMFOAOO EXACTLY BROlmao what a mess I can't ahaha lizzziziz said: HUH?? WHAT EVEN.$?$($+- "hate the sin, not the sinner" line can work in some cases but i dont think its ? that great at all? maybe the worst scenario's are just coming up in my head for it rn but that was wack. im also still not into miranjo no matter how pitiful and sad her story is lol. haha "You killed me brutally in front of my little son and tried to kill him too afterwards but I'm over it now :] I kinda hate the fact that you did that, but I guess I can't hate you, you poor cute girlie :]] I see now you just want to travel with your old friend Bosse again... god bless :']" |
| Immortality vs Invincibility eh? Bosse is pretty strong even while he's taken Daida's form. Anyways I guess with that Ouken has been sealed for a while, that said, I can't wait to see the battle between Bojji and Bosse :D |
| fucking hell does this fight drag out until the end |
| The first 10 or so episodes were so good but the second cour is very week in comparisson, thsi fight has been dragging for so long and im getting kinda sick of all the fake deaths, most important of all im still hella confused about the characters motivations hopefully the next episodes explain everything |
| I thought Bosse would take the Ouken ball and and hit it out of the atmosphere. |
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| This episode just shows how surreally strong was King Bosse, damn! The guy is on a completely different level than anyone else, and his trial en error technique might have worked there lmao On the other hand, we still don't know what's behind his motivation. |
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| Bosse... was just overwhelmingly powerful.. to think thats all it takes when you have power on your side. |
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| King Bosse finally puts Ouken away. Still not dead dead tho! |
| I'm Bruneian and I like anime. And Manchester United. And fat cats. |
| The big 4, Bojji & Kage, Despa. All fighting desperately meanwhile Bosse just arrives, heals all of them who were almost dead and destroys Ouken with less than 50% of his power. What an absolute UNIT |
| Bosse's brutal strength is just something else. |
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| You get healed! And you get healed! And you! Everybody gets healed! Bosse is here and his brute strength helps him to stop Ouken. |
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