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Jun 22, 2008 5:44 AM
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Haha, the amount of twists and turns in this episode alone was ludicrous.

I loved it!
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Mar 10, 2009 9:02 AM
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Hm hm interesting twist this anime is going to be interesting ^^
Mar 25, 2010 11:32 PM
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def interesting twist! THIS is getting better! one more episode in this Arc...
Jul 3, 2010 10:54 PM
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Doesn't that fellow feel guilty for ditching the girl?
May 12, 2011 9:50 PM
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This is terrible, the characters aren't developed at all and they just seem to make one irrational decision after another. I can tell their is a good story behind this, but it seems as though it was just horribly adapted.
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May 22, 2011 3:00 PM
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Awesome episode! Even Naosuke showed some backbone at the end.

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Nov 10, 2011 11:24 PM
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Hmm this episode wasnt very good, or maybe I didnt pay enough attention.
Aug 14, 2012 2:28 PM
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They really threw in a lot of plot twists there - a few too many I think because by the time we got to "oh no, we were actually related by blood" it just seemed ridiculous.

Anyway, the episode was decent. But, even though the story seems somewhat interesting, the portrayal here is just not that compelling. So, because of that, these episodes have yet to stand out as being anything better than just "alright".
Jul 7, 2013 4:20 AM
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Great episode, some really nice development here! And also a betrayal of his legitimate wife... well lets see how this story will end next!
Aug 29, 2013 6:58 PM

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Plot twists! Plot twists everywhere!
Feb 1, 2014 7:37 PM

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That guy was on an errand for a year and didn't tell his wife?

Why didn't Osode tell Naosuke they were related sooner; Oiwa is his sister too(?)? It would save on the incest and everything.

They're so shamed at being related they'd rather die, no-one avenging Oiwa? Am I missing something?
Jun 29, 2014 12:48 PM
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Plot twist galore. the characters and story could be better developed though.
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Jul 1, 2014 10:24 PM
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Well darn they were related. Tsk tsk
Jul 3, 2014 2:32 AM

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Why didn't Osode just tell Naosuke they were siblings? He probably would have stuck with her and treated her better if he knew. She didn't have to sleep with him, she could have just told him the truth. This is giving me a headache. Tsuruya Nanboku the Fourth-san, you wrote a shitty story. I guess editors didn't exist then huh?
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Sep 7, 2014 11:26 PM

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PUROTTO TWISTO !!!!
Jun 29, 2015 1:37 AM

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Eh, not a fan of such sudden twists that don't make sense at all.
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May 10, 2016 1:44 PM
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Well even though they turn to birds, at least they are together.
Dec 12, 2016 4:05 PM

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the opening somehow it work
what an ending death for both of them.

Mar 19, 2017 6:14 AM

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Them plot twists lol xD So sudden that I didn't see it coming.

So she set up a convoluted trap using her brother and lover to kill herself and only revealed to that thirsty dude that he's her sister... Good grief~

It's cliche now but I guess that people back in the 1600's or something would appreciate that with great surprise :3








May 16, 2017 10:19 AM

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Uol, great twist O_______O
Apr 17, 2018 11:15 AM

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This is such a feels ANIME! How is this a '' Horror '' tag?????? I only feel sad D:
Dec 2, 2018 11:18 PM

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Pretty intense, but yeah, the plot twists are weird after you think it over.
Jan 9, 2019 4:24 AM
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I'm shaking, I never expected that that was such a sad and depressing turn of events, I'm so into the story right now, it almost tore me when they took that woman down, and with the latter at the end, man, is this story real? This is unbelievable.
To see to what extent some men will go just to win a woman over, that is very animalistic, I'm so glad people carryi ng weapons around like it's something casual isn't a thing anymore, at least, in most places.
The ending theme song only multiplies the feels by a great margin.
Apr 13, 2020 10:32 AM

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xchee said:
Why didn't Osode just tell Naosuke they were siblings? He probably would have stuck with her and treated her better if he knew. She didn't have to sleep with him, she could have just told him the truth. This is giving me a headache. Tsuruya Nanboku the Fourth-san, you wrote a shitty story. I guess editors didn't exist then huh?

Truth has been spoken, I really expected much more from this anime.
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Aug 17, 2020 3:59 PM

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Oiwa's seiyuu has so many great roles, by the way...very expressive voice. But damn what a way to go away for Osode.
Tsuruya Nanboku the Fourth-san, you wrote a shitty story. I guess editors didn't exist then huh?

hahaha that got me
Aug 18, 2020 11:53 AM

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St0rmblade said:

Tsuruya Nanboku the Fourth-san, you wrote a shitty story. I guess editors didn't exist then huh?

This is incredibly baseless and judgement, as expected from MALers... Not only is this a "mix" of this famous writer's works "Yotsuya Kaidan" and "Oiwa" (maybe I'm confusing with others, sorry) and not his actual stories but it's weird to expect things supposed to happen to the character to happen to you instead, and also judging based on criteria totally distorted by today's mass produced entertainment fictions.

Thanks for reading this badly written rant.
Feb 26, 2022 10:08 PM

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Osode knew Naosuke was her brother yet she never told him the truth?... Huh? Why? Pretty sure the guy would have treated her better if he knew. Not to mention Osode wouldn't have had to let him rape her and shit...
Oct 17, 2022 12:58 AM
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LMAO what a melodrama, it has gotten really ridiculous. Entertaining but still ridiculous either way like wtf.
First, the guy couldn't have just told his fiancee he was going away first? He didn't have to tell her his secret mission, but he could've just let her know he was going to be absent. Like wtf. He returned one whole ass year later... And how did Naosuke mistake him for another guy so easily, were they like twins or something... he also really said "I got the wrong guy" outloud LMFAO
Then, the stupid incest plot twist. Why didn't she just tell him before that they were siblings, then maybe he probably wouldn't have tried to rape her/force her into marriage. Jesus, woman... Is she a masochist or something?
(Also they really expect me to believe someone as evil as Naosuke would completely have a change of heart at the last moment and kill himself xd The man only looked out for his own interests, he never even loved her)

Nov 25, 2022 2:12 AM

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I liked the noodly ghost arms.


Sep 15, 2023 8:50 PM

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Jealousy really is an ugly thing.


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