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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Shinra looks like he's about to raise some hell this episode. Damn! However, I think Sho's powers are on another level compared to some of the other guys that appeared so far. Too bad we didn't get to see too much of it. I'm curious to see what Shirna and his company will do from here. |
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| Some really good fights in this episode, it was great. |
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| Sho is insanely powerful. Wonder how fire relates to freezing time? With the whole crew in tact where does the show go from here. Also Obi & Vulcan have good taste |
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| Ugh, if there's one cliché I dislike is the "smug white haired overpowered antagonist". To top it all off it's his brother. Sigh. I'm gonna have to put up with it seems. They seemed pretty relaxed there at the end. Does losing the key to Amaterasu mean nothing to them or haven't they become aware of it? |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Shinra's brother, Shou, showed up in this episode and he is powerful. Especially with that crazy speed of his. Even Joker showed up. That ending with the cross change. Poor sister. |
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| The show feels completely burnt out since the start of the second half. Maybe because they dumped too many new faces at once without gradually fleshing them out while shoving other characters aside (really, Maki is more of a background character now then when she was introduced), maybe because the plot got as standard as possible. Now I'm watching only because it's past the halfway point, so might as well finish it, not because I care about what is going on. Shame, it was a dark horse of the season for me but looks like it was only for the previous season... |
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| Lisa got some pretty sexy shots in this episode and damn i hope she got her redemption arc soon the fight scenes are sakuga worthy again but the rest of the episode got pretty weak animation overall andd lots of wonky character drawings too Sho's time ability though Vulcan is now officially their engineer |
Farabeuf said: Ugh, if there's one cliché I dislike is the "smug white haired overpowered antagonist". To top it all off it's his brother. Sigh. I'm gonna have to put up with it seems. They seemed pretty relaxed there at the end. Does losing the key to Amaterasu mean nothing to them or haven't they become aware of it? Yeah I dont know whats more cliche and simplistic, an anime having a white haired antagonist, or someone that wants to quit watching an anime because it has a white haired antagonist in it. Would have red or blue been better, or are you more of a pink person? Episode was great! 10/10 |
| Emilia-tan, maji tenshi! (oops wrong anime) We finally saw Sho in action and he is a badass with katana, and Shinra's reaction was amazing :D Evangelist got the key but 8th got Vulcan in the end,he will be great addition to the team. |
| well that's just my opinion..... |
| S A K U G A some of the best fights so far in the series, i loved it. Shinra finally meets Sho, but ofc it's not going to be so easy for him. Sho's skills look like they're on a whole new level right now |
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Ugh, if there's one cliché I dislike is the "smug white haired overpowered antagonist". To top it all off it's his brother. Sigh. I'm gonna have to put up with it seems. those are two cliches on a character, one of them has been seen countless times in this type of series and then people complain about isekai for repeating a cliche 6 years ago when the shounnen has been doing it for more than 30 years!  |
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| Shinra's brother is truly a monster. His power seems like stopping the time or moving extremely fast. I wonder how many powerful enemies are there like him. |
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| To think that Hibana's freeing of Shinra would unleash super shinra lol. Its nice to see Hibana be able to come out to the field and take on the white clads. The workshop sure had quite the unusual hidden system though. Too bad that the happy reunion that Shinra expected with his bro turned out to be anything but. His sword skills though really were impressive and fast. Still Sho's reveal also managed to draw out his opposite number in the form of Joker. Though they lost the workshop the intel that they managed to find sure made up for it. Its nice to see Vulcan's attitude towards Shinra and the others soften. Overall an interesting ep that managed to end Vulcan's arc on a high note that combined some excellent action with equal amounts of revelation and story expansion. Now that Giovanni has been discovered and Sho has been revealed it feels like things will only escalate. |
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| Shinra is so lucky, he got saved by Joker....... If Joker didn't save him, maybe his brother will torture him. LOL Sho vs. Joker is a decent fight, although it's very short. Their power is in another level compared to any character shown so far, even Benimaru. |
Nekko_Khayal88Nov 15, 2019 1:20 PM
| Sister Iris' faces at the end was classic, What I want to know is Joker's true intentions. |
Gourmetforce said: Fluxje said: Yeah I dont know whats more cliche and simplistic, an anime having a white haired antagonist, or someone that wants to quit watching an anime because it has a white haired antagonist in it. Would have red or blue been better, or are you more of a pink person? Episode was great! 10/10 Well some people complain just to complain at this point i am curious if someone complains about a shonen anime then why the fuck they simply don't stop watch shonen anime or even anime in general. How about you two entitled little schmucks stop whinning everytime someone points out some flaws on your precious shonen titles? Improvement comes out of acknowledging flaws, rather than just sweep them under the rug and claim, "oh it's shonen stuff, deal with it" Gourmetforce said: All i know that in the polls those who vote that they don't like the episodes are far less than those who like and the gap is enormous which shows that far more people like the show than those who simple in every freaking episode they found something unimportant where they make it important just to bitch about. You're talking about popularity not actual quality. You know what other thing comes out of zealot masses? hysteria, riots and anarchy. Being a hardcore fanboy from any title really brings nothing out to discuss to the table. Anywho, coming back to the show, who the fuck wrote this script and storyboard? Hibana: "I planted a bug on Iris and decided to listen at the right moment" Wow, what a lame excuse to jump out of nowhere to help in the right moment. There are way better ways to pull out the "cavalry trope" than this. Shinra: "oh you must be my long lost brother" How the heck can Shinra know how his brother would look like? he was just a kid when both were separated at the great arsen, not to mention that a todler's face changes drastically throughout the childhood period. Iris' button frenzy comes out in the worst manner with comedy, at this point adding such a lame joke it just makes the fight feel less important and dangerous than it should be. For real author, you don't have to shove in jokes just because it's been a while since you had to make your characters look like baboons picking their asses of each other. Quite frankly this show has been losing steam for me for quite a while, I'm still sticking for a while hoping it gets a peak sometime soon before this second cour ends. |
Fluxje said: Farabeuf said: Ugh, if there's one cliché I dislike is the "smug white haired overpowered antagonist". To top it all off it's his brother. Sigh. I'm gonna have to put up with it seems. They seemed pretty relaxed there at the end. Does losing the key to Amaterasu mean nothing to them or haven't they become aware of it? Yeah I dont know whats more cliche and simplistic, an anime having a white haired antagonist, or someone that wants to quit watching an anime because it has a white haired antagonist in it. Would have red or blue been better, or are you more of a pink person? Episode was great! 10/10 When did I say I was going to quit it? I've been consistently enjoying Fire Force despite the flak it gets from so many quarters. I just wrote that that particular kind of antagonist its such a cliché. That's kind of a pet peeve of mine that I haven't read much of before so in my case, not cliché. Quite the contrary actually And who wrote anything about it being "simplistic"? Did you even read my post carefully or skimmed through some lines and just typed away in order to get some thrills? And lastly and since you seem very interested in knowing, I would have gone with green haired OP shounen antagonist Yes, green is the colour. We simply do not have enough of those. |
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| Fights were pretty great! I really didn't expect Joker to interfere with the Evangelist. I thought he was a part of them... guess I was wrong. Sho's ability is quite a force to be wary off. I wonder what his trick is to manipulate time with flames.. Gotta love it that when Captain Obi mentioned Tamaki's Lucky Lercher lure being inactive, that Tamaki's fish got stripped XD |
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| I still can't get over how fucking trash that OP is, but Hibana is godtier waifu for me, hopefully I roll her in the mudaebot waifu game soon. Animation at the beginning with Shinra taking out white knights was dope af, great episode. Can't wait for more of best girl Lisa. Seeing sho animated was badass, a lot better than the manga. Seems weird for us to only be on episode 17 when all the other series like Dr.Stone are on 20 already lol. |
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| Great episode....... |
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| Shinra’s entrance was pretty badass. Shinra’s reaction to seeing his little brother was nice. He looked so happy. Sho is already looking broken which made Joker even more impressive with how he was able to fight him briefly. |
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| Looks like Shinra is getting his ass kicked over and over again The fighting scenes are pretty good though |
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| ok. what was with Fiat 126p in "last second" of this episode? it was hilarious. xD |
| Manga recommendation: - Spy x Family (Ch.112/? - biweekly) | Sakamoto Days (Ch.203/? - weekly) - MARRIAGETOXIN (Ch.119/? - weekly) | Machi and Oboro (Ch.22/? - biweekly) - Make the Exorcist Fall in Love (Ch.86/? - biweekly) - Monochrome Days (Ch.15/? - biweekly) Anime recommendation: - Deca-Dence (Finished) | Wave, Listen to Me! (Finished) - If My Favorite Pop Idol Made It to the Budokan, I Would Die (Finished) - Diary of Our Days at the Breakwater (Finished) |
| Vulcan is still bent on bringing back Lisa, fuck, my Spidey sensors sense a cliché development there! Put that aside, I liked Shinrai's crashing the party there, his moves were well animated. But I like Sho though, his lightning moves struck the thrill in me. Glad Vulcan finally joined up, even though it was in a dire situation. |
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| Fight sequences are fantastic as always. I'm loving the way they are presenting Sho's attacks. |
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| This is becoming like the Sengoku Jidai with lots of feudal fiefdoms fighting each other. How many sides do we have now, four or five? |
| I finally caught up after 10 missed episodes. I feel that watching everything up to now in a binge, the show's pace is a little bit slow. also, I really liked joker this episode. I had completely forgotten about him. it's kinda weird how they introduced him at the beginning of the series but didn't really use him as a character or anything. him appearing at the Amaterasu plant for a brief second didn't really give more info on who he is. Tbh, he kinda felt like an araki-forgot-Jojo plot. It was actually fun for me to see him again. I hope he appear again soon, at least before the season ends. Also, I remember Viktor and joker were talking to each other in episode 3. this is another example of how characters are shown briefly, and in my opinion, it's just confusing. |
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| Damn, Shou sure is a powerful midget. Sorry but I still can't take him seriously as an antagonist, especially when his own weapon is bigger than him. Hope my impression of him changes as the episodes go by but we'll see. Overall, I'm relieved this episode was more decent than the atrocious previous one. The animation during the fights was impressive, as expected and the development of the events was consistent for the most part. There were still some lame moments such as Hibana being knocked out by a robot or Obi trying to "act cool" in the post-credits scene but I guess it can't be helped when it comes to this kind of comedy the author so much likes to use. |
SouthRzVaNov 15, 2019 10:41 PM
| So much happened this episode holy Sho is op as hell Joker appeared and beat Sho in a way I guess? Both still very mysterious, or rather their power is Hibana added a bit of ojou-comedy. These heart eyes tho Licht is also still pretty mysterious Lisa seems conflicted. Can't really say what's an act and what's "true". Everything around her just happened so suddenly and without much detail Vulcan seems to be joining the 8th then. Looking forward to it |
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Whats your alternative to 'putting up with it'? Are you going to sneak into the studio, and manually repaint his hair colour in all the scenes? |
| Lisa definitely seems like she's being manipulated or controlled. I think she'll end up eventually coming back to Vulcan and Yu's side. More Hibana scenes please;). The Shaft cuts had a jarring effect this episode, kinda hurt those scenes. Decent episode overall tho still. |
DreddNov 16, 2019 3:09 AM
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Fluxje said: Whats your alternative to 'putting up with it'? Are you going to sneak into the studio, and manually repaint his hair colour in all the scenes? There’s obviously no alternative to put up with it, is there? When he shows up I’ll just release a massive sigh that can be heard all around the neighborhood, have another cookie and a sip of my warm glass of milk and carry on. The series has too many positives going for it and like I said, I am enjoying it. |
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| Finally got to see this part animated and it was very well done! |
| I thought Joker was with the cult, but I guess he's neutral. |
| Another great episode. Licht and Joker are from a different faction this whole time, I thought they were on the Evangelist's side. I didn't expect Sho's power to be Za Warudo lol. That was a great fight between him and Joker. |
| I'm really starting to like this Joker guy. He and smiley guy are really starting to seem like fun characters. And Sho is giving me big Owari no Seraph feels. |
| Joker is such an interessing character. I wonder whats gonna happen next :D |
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| Shinra's bro is pretty op and I honestly didn't expect Joker to appear, but thanks to it they managed to escape safely. Glad that Vulcan realize that he's also in need of the 8th. |
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| Iris' reaction at the end was cute |
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| Sho vs Shinra, which is one sided. But the Sho vs Joker was a great one, still don't know what Joker thinks but he did a good job saving the 8th. |
Kimurah said: Gourmetforce said: Well some people complain just to complain at this point i am curious if someone complains about a shonen anime then why the fuck they simply don't stop watch shonen anime or even anime in general. How about you two entitled little schmucks stop whinning everytime someone points out some flaws on your precious shonen titles? Improvement comes out of acknowledging flaws, rather than just sweep them under the rug and claim, "oh it's shonen stuff, deal with it" Gourmetforce said: All i know that in the polls those who vote that they don't like the episodes are far less than those who like and the gap is enormous which shows that far more people like the show than those who simple in every freaking episode they found something unimportant where they make it important just to bitch about. You're talking about popularity not actual quality. You know what other thing comes out of zealot masses? hysteria, riots and anarchy. Being a hardcore fanboy from any title really brings nothing out to discuss to the table. Anywho, coming back to the show, who the fuck wrote this script and storyboard? Hibana: "I planted a bug on Iris and decided to listen at the right moment" Wow, what a lame excuse to jump out of nowhere to help in the right moment. There are way better ways to pull out the "cavalry trope" than this. Shinra: "oh you must be my long lost brother" How the heck can Shinra know how his brother would look like? he was just a kid when both were separated at the great arsen, not to mention that a todler's face changes drastically throughout the childhood period. Iris' button frenzy comes out in the worst manner with comedy, at this point adding such a lame joke it just makes the fight feel less important and dangerous than it should be. For real author, you don't have to shove in jokes just because it's been a while since you had to make your characters look like baboons picking their asses of each other. Quite frankly this show has been losing steam for me for quite a while, I'm still sticking for a while hoping it gets a peak sometime soon before this second cour ends. - Yes? Where is the issue here? Hibana has been stalking them for a while. It's been established that she's creepy already (heck in this episode she thought of f-ing a restrained Shinra) - Easy. Shinra already knows that his brother is with the white clads. He sees one with white hair, which is a very distinctive color (only character with white hair so far) , he confirms it by calculating the age and that's it. Adding in that the distinctive teeth is not even necessary. - Well that's a valid criticism I guess, it's your feeling. Personally my gripe is more with Iris eepeating Latom ad Nauseam as if it's the only thing that makes up her character. |
| LOOOL "Arthur's wound was .....unfortunately not as deep as I imagined" The action sequence this episode was fkn lit .Well done David Production The Joker is starting to be a pretty interesting character, hopefully we get to learn more about his motives. |
| Best girl coming to save the day <3....... but got knocked out by a toy xD God dammit Lisa, just come with the good guys. Sho's ability is... wow! He's really OP, but it was interesting that Arthur could react to it. Speaking of interesting things, Joker is so cool and he doesn't seem to be on either side. The fight with Sho was short but intense, he is also super OP. Tamaki's lucky lecher stripping the fish instead of her was hilarious. And poor Sister, seeing the church tainted with that skull. Látom. |
| What an episode! I wonder if Shinra's brother got brainwashed or something. Hibana is always everywhere and saves everyone xD That scene between our engineer and that girl, damn, so sad for both of them. Wow! I really wonder what Joker's true intentions are since he is trying to maintain balance. |
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