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Sep 29, 2008 5:00 PM
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Wow, that was an awesome improvement from the last two episodes. Well... maybe that's not quite right. More like, it establishes the context of the previous two episodes, which were intentionally silly, in order to set up the gravity of this episode. I'm pretty amazed at the production quality, too. Stuff like this was possible in the 80's? That's intense.

Anyway, the plot is progressing nicely. It's easy to see Noriko's character developing (good thing, because there are only 3 episodes left). I think we could have used a few more scenes with Noriko and Smith, but it's fine as is. I'm going to predict right now that either A) Coach is the guy Noriko's father saved, or B) Coach is Noriko's father.
Jan 10, 2009 5:59 AM
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It's pretty obvious Coach is the guy Noriko's father saved because it was shown in one of the earlier episodes wasn't it?

Anyway, wow Amano is a bitch. Also, even though Smith only had about two full minutes of screen time, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the guy at his demise. This is definitely getting better, can't wait for whats in store in the next few episodes.

The Gunbuster forum is dead though. What's up with that?
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May 9, 2009 1:15 PM
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One of my favorite moments was when Noriko opened the door to the guys' quarters after Smith died. Just that one shot said so much.

Aug 18, 2009 11:54 PM
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Wow, a fantastic episode. Seriously, well done. I can see why this is considered a classic. The voice acting, character expressions, and music made for one hell of an episode.
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Nov 4, 2009 7:56 AM
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Great episode, the fear in the battlefield could be felt... it was real, I'm really eager to finish this series, the ending looks like it's gonna be awesome and bitter.
May 1, 2010 6:53 AM
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Touka said:
Also, even though Smith only had about two full minutes of screen time, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the guy at his demise. This is definitely getting better, can't wait for whats in store in the next few episodes./quote]
May 9, 2010 7:02 PM
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That was surprisingly good. I hope Smith is actually dead, if he is alive it would hurt Noriko's little character development.
Jul 5, 2010 3:45 PM
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That was surprisingly good. I hope Smith is actually dead, if he is alive it would hurt Noriko's little character development.
She is useless anyway...
Jul 16, 2010 6:02 PM
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It's getting better by the episode. Poor Noriko, but I hope that with this she can grow stronger and kick some ass.

Wakamoto singing at the beginning of the episode was simply glorious!
Dec 26, 2010 4:52 PM

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Are you serious? It's getting better? I don't get this, what the hell is going on? Did they just mercilessly killed a guy so that whimp can grow a pair? I know she is a girl, but the figurative speech's meaning stays
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Feb 4, 2011 10:20 AM

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Smith was a pretty cool guy. Sad to see him killed off so soon.
Apr 1, 2011 11:25 PM
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...wow. Noriko is way too naive. You go into space to fight space monsters. Of course there's a risk of dying. What the hell did you expect?!? At least Smith's death drives her character development.

By that I mean instead of her just yelling, "Coach!" she'll add, "Smith!" now...

These first 3 episodes kind of suck...Noriko apparently only knows the word, "Coach!" or cries for half the episode.
May 21, 2011 10:51 PM

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Almost got a nosebleed from reading the running text in the opening, presenting the foundations of Tannhauser physics in Gunbuster universe and in contrast to that, I enjoyed the brief and goofy karaoke duet accompanying it.

The Exelion is so big they have to run trains for mass transport on its bowels! And for a supposedly utilitarian space battleship I find it weird that they have decorative flowers on vases and plants at the bridge. In spite of that, I like how they put attention to details on it, including the technical operations and procedures.

Smith's screen time is too short and then he died just like that...anyway at least the male pilots apparently don't wear weird uniforms like their female counterparts do. XD First look at the aliens, they really look like space monsters after all.

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...wow. Noriko is way too naive. You go into space to fight space monsters. Of course there's a risk of dying. What the hell did you expect?!? At least Smith's death drives her character development.


I agree to everything you posted there.
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Aug 6, 2011 10:29 PM

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i mean yea noriko is a whiny little bitch but i can understand her character and the point the show is making so far. it excellently depicts the fear and feeling of insecurity of being thrust into a situation you are completely and utterly unprepared for. Coach was an idiot to bring noriko into something like this. she has no experience and is clearly way too young to be making life and death decisions on the battlefield. props to the sad music. that scene was heart wrenching.
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Mar 24, 2012 10:30 PM

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Smith was a really cool guy. Protected Noriko and doesn't afraid of anything.
It's a shame he's gone. I feel sad.
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Sep 7, 2012 12:37 AM

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Smith was here to show Noriko the cruelty of space. I thought that she understood that after the death of her father, it seems not.
Dec 29, 2013 2:33 PM

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Oh dat feels this episode...

Smith ;.;
Feb 22, 2014 7:49 AM

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Smiiiith :(
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Apr 11, 2014 6:40 PM

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That "onee-san" (or was is 'sama') was such a bitch. Smith had such a little screen time and then he died...
Apr 23, 2014 8:39 AM

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Oh man, not Smith.
Jul 8, 2014 6:24 PM

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That's pretty impressive development, I really like where this is going! So let's see what's next.
Jun 22, 2015 8:22 PM

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That was quick I knew Smith was going to be fodder, but in the same episode 15 minutes later? lol. xD
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Aug 12, 2015 6:12 AM

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Rest in Smithereens
Aug 15, 2015 6:44 PM

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Rest in Smithereens


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Sep 6, 2015 12:36 PM

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Damn it, Smith!
Nov 19, 2015 2:04 PM

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noooo Smith :'(
Mar 8, 2016 3:29 PM

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........And this episode is no better than the last.

I'm still not impressed with this OVA, but I'll keep watching for now.

May 2, 2016 10:07 PM

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It wasn't even the fact that Smith died that made my chest tight because he was just introduced 20 minutes prior but the aftermath of it. Noriko looking at the headbands and when she went into the men's quarters especially, seeing the devastated faces of all the guys got to me for some reason. On the plus side it looks like she's going to get stronger because of this and start to become the badass I want her to be.
Jul 21, 2016 9:22 AM

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RIP Smith we hardly knew ye. This episode reinvigorated the series for me and really hooked me into it. Smith was such a great character for how little time we get with him. Small scenes like him and Noriko doing maintenance on the outside of the ship, produced some engaging banter and subtle characterizations so much so that his impromptu kind of cheaply animated death is pretty effective. I liked Smith because his heated flirting with Noriko deepened her character a little bit I think, gave her emotions to work with besides motivated and emotionally besot. I think this is the episode where I really became attached to her as a protagonist and not just because of that pretty sad ending.

I like how much like Jung is similar to Asuka, Smith is to a lesser extent reminiscent of Kaworu. He's a little too down to earth (ie. not a crazy alien) so the comparison doesn't entirely work. But I think it's no coincidence both of Anno's major original works feature a mysterious outgoing white haired boy who makes the protagonist open up and then is tragically killed. In the latter regard I guess this makes Smith the Goose of Gunbuster in the Top Gun comparison. That's kind of funny.

There are a lot of shots in this episode I keep coming back to. Her first meeting with Smith, them doing maintenance in space suits and their vending machine rendezvous are all dynamic and memorable visual and narrative scenes. So I find it interesting his death is the most questionably depicted part of the episode. It was pretty effective given all the buildup and the nice dialogue cue of her calling out to him. When he doesn't answer the last time you can't help but get a sinking feeling. But its still done entirely from Noriko's cockpit so you wonder if this was due to budget restraints or what.

Call me a little too prescient, but given my knowledge Top Gun inspired this OVAs plot I'm going to predict that Smith's death is going to break Noriko at least temporarily. Not necessarily looking forward to seeing her slowly build herself back up. But at least with an episode as good as this one they've earned it.
Jul 21, 2016 9:53 PM

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i mean yea noriko is a whiny little bitch but i can understand her character and the point the show is making so far. it excellently depicts the fear and feeling of insecurity of being thrust into a situation you are completely and utterly unprepared for. Coach was an idiot to bring noriko into something like this. she has no experience and is clearly way too young to be making life and death decisions on the battlefield.

Amano has no battle experience in space either, she said she only has been in space few times "on vacation". So... that all is stupid

But i think i'm going to finish this just to make 100% sure it's garbage
(and for them girls' suits..)
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see you, space cowperson . . .
Sep 20, 2016 12:02 PM

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smith smith smith .... *dead* , ermm wow ?
Nov 24, 2016 7:47 AM

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Damn, this show proceeds with breakneck speed! I suppose that should be expected from a 6-episode OVA with a story to tell.

I greatly appreciate the attention to science-related details; on the first sight of the enemy (when Noriko and Smith are outside cleaning the laser cannon lenses), when it is coming towards them, it is blue, but when it rushes past and heads away, it turns red. That's relativistic Doppler shift at work. Also, when the laser cannons are fired, they bend slightly when passing over a planet due to its gravity. The last episode was a great illustration of how general relativity can cause a space-traveler to, in a sense, travel to the future - the classic twin 'paradox' scenario. Anno doesn't shy away from the physics at all! Much respect.

Everything else was masterful too, from the chaos of the battlefield to the tension caused by a strange and unknown enemy. We got to see only a little of Smith, but I think he succeeded in winning a lot of hearts very quickly. I liked how his death was silent and off-screen - no unnecessary drama. The silence spoke much more loudly than some typical sudden death scene.
Nov 30, 2016 5:34 PM

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Smith had death flag written all over him from the very moment he showed up, so I'm not surprised at all by his death.
Jan 8, 2017 8:00 AM

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ArnoldK said:
One of my favorite moments was when Noriko opened the door to the guys' quarters after Smith died. Just that one shot said so much.

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Noriko looking at the headbands and when she went into the men's quarters especially, seeing the devastated faces of all the guys got to me for some reason.

+1 .. I totally agree with this .. And that music too </3

I'm really liking this anime..
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No why smith had to die
Sep 30, 2017 4:59 PM

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Good episode, everything was top notch and I can't believe that I cared about a guy like Smith after the very little screen time he had.

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Nov 4, 2017 3:13 PM

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So really Smith is gone I kinda did like him too, that silver wolverine. I guess they had to kill him off since the story was about Noriko and Kazumi, but still he was interesting. Noriko did love him and would have made a great partner.
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Feb 16, 2018 7:49 PM

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Poor Smith. He really picked the wrong partner. That girl is really bad at her job.

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Feb 28, 2018 9:39 PM

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I was wondering why attachment between Noriko and Smith seemed forced and rushed, till he got killed, this episode was weak compared to the 1st and the 2nd one.
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Nov 23, 2018 8:53 AM

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Man, that sad, slow ending, to the upbeat happy outro :P

I hope this buckles her up to fight and get good. Getting some annoying Evangelion feels here. -Insert Shinji meme-
Jan 13, 2019 8:10 AM

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kladjfjadfjkj they have no right to play with our feelings like that!! The gall, introduce a character and kill him off in the same episode will they?! ... Q____Q
Mar 19, 2019 5:23 PM
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Better than the last two episodes but that's not saying much. Feels forced and disjointed honestly.
May 3, 2019 5:27 AM

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I wonder why so many people whine about Noriko being a "crybaby". I guess it's the same public that would bash Shinji from NGE for being a "pussy". Of course, a 14-year old child has to be an instant superhero in space fighting giant monsters to death without showing any human emotion which children typically show. I mean, it's so easy, anyone could do that, right? And surely no girl would even care about a dead guy whom she'd recently met and liked, it's ridiculous! Where are my flawless overpowered protagonists?
May 7, 2019 1:50 PM

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Fist episode was great, the second episode was meh, it felt rushed and disjointed, this episode is a step back in the right direction but still didn't enjoy it as much as the first.
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I wonder why so many people whine about Noriko being a "crybaby". I guess it's the same public that would bash Shinji from NGE for being a "pussy". Of course, a 14-year old child has to be an instant superhero in space fighting giant monsters to death without showing any human emotion which children typically show. I mean, it's so easy, anyone could do that, right? And surely no girl would even care about a dead guy whom she'd recently met and liked, it's ridiculous! Where are my flawless overpowered protagonists?


Actually she's 17, but yeah, still esentially a kid. But yeah, those people that always do this always get to me, though it feels odd to see those sort of comments here, usually you are more likely to see them on like kissanime our youtube, usually comments here aren't that mean spirited and reactionary.
May 17, 2019 9:30 AM

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Ok episode, a 3/5 tbh
May 17, 2019 9:30 AM

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I was hoping they would develop Smith instead of offing him like that.
May 17, 2019 9:31 AM

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Wanted to see more Noriko and Smith romance, ah well, pretty boring episode for the most part.
May 29, 2019 11:07 AM
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I am suprised to see that some people really think Kazumi(one-sama) is a ''bitch'' because of that talk with the coach, she did the right thing there.From what we have seen so far,Noriko clearly wasnt ready to fight in a real battle.Now, Smith got killed and it is a sad situation for everyone.
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Definitely feel that this would've been better with 12 episodes. How am I supposed to give a fuck about a guy who got like 5 minutes of screen time? At least it's still entertaining
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