High School DxD Hero Episode 5 Discussion

Brahmastra_ said:
Can someone refresh me when was it mentioned in previous episodes about humans with Sacred Gear's being ostracised and persecuted by other humans? I thought there were only a few humans not related to the church or Shinto clans that know of the supernatural, Conlan made it out as if most of human society are aware of sacred gears when he spat his dummy at Issei.

yaokitsme said:
ive tried looking this up cause its confusing the hell out of me but... siegfried is not freed right? to me they looked exactly the same but i cant find anything on siegfried although i realize they have different voice actors but it just threw me off so hard

Mattinator95 said:


They are clones of the orginal Siegfried.

Mister-axe said:


"Neko's pancake ass" ROFL! Yeah, agreed. I get it that this show doesn't rely only on fanservice, but if isn't going to use it, at least try to a better job during the fight scenes.
For example, I'm convinced the hero faction never played something like a MOBA game in their entire life
"Oh look guys! we managed to split their group! Let's send our weakest members to fight them so them can easily regroup and find the place where they can ruin our plans! Alright!"
"Oh guys look! A healer that can heal the entire group and it's only protect by child! Ha, do they think we are stupid? Of course we are not going to attack them."
"Hey guys there's only one left! Let's wait for him to make a desperate move that can possibly foil our plans! Oh he's actually summoning someone and it's a almost naked girl no less! No Hercules, don't shoot them! I want to keep seeing her floating in the air..."

God damn amatuers man...

Mister-axe said:


I don't hate it. In terms of "coreography", the fights are well done. More dynamic and definetly better than the cringe-worth fights of the previous seasons.
I just don't like the constant talk these characters have during the fight. For me, it adds nothing to their personality and it doesn't seem remotly real to what a fight would be.

SNDT said:
Looks like every clown have sacred gear now. lul This is stupid.

uzee said:
Summon Oppai!

I just love how they stick to the novels



There's a reason for that (I don't remember if it should have been explained in the previous messed up season or later in the events)

QWERTYFish25 said:
There was absolutely no fucking nudity in this episode aside from the eye catch and Neko's pancake ass, Jesus. The action felt lacking as fuck and there was just way to much talking. Fucking boring episode, honestly.



Pretty much. As far as morality anime fails 99% of the time unless you pull a digibro and read too much into it. Other times they just get edgy as fuck.

UImoetard said:
Meant to ask this last episode, but why exactly did the team get separated by the fog? It didn't happen when they were at the bridge.

Also, Issei did nothing leader-like this episode after hyping up his leading ability last episode. He allowed his enemies to pick their enemies and split his team up.

The oppai gags are still funny though.

Mattinator95 said:



Didn't they steal them or are the artificial

Exowave said:

Another good episode even better then last. Issei owned that Shadow dude with pretty much basic logic and usage of Fire as a trigger too strike his weakspot.

That summon oppai skill came out of nowhere and how fitting instead of usual Power of will that saves hero in usual shounens Rias looked so surprised XDD. I loved how Issei used Boost like 50x times second highest i think behind that time when he went 100x times against Vali at the end of Season 2 he even cut off his arm (Cao Cao-s). Serves him right for underestimating Issei .


I mean Issei is like worm in comparison to them in his base form/stats but boost 50/100 or juggernaut drive are not the same thing at all.



Cao Cao seems too admire his oponents this time unlike last episode it was weird at first,but he was maybe bluffing for lols i mean yeah they are stronger as a group then they thought but they were all wiped out except Issei and Saji guy.

Also since when Saji has that full form i dont remember it being shown ever before , i suppose he achieved that during that time Issei Trained with giant Dragon in S3.

I cant wait for Kuno too reunite with her mom, she looked so worried poor girl. :) Also is that just me or is her mom Actual bigger threat then most of Cao Cao-s members, by her aura alone i feel that.

Mattinator95 said:



So what if it doesn't have nudity.

Roy_Focker said:
I wonder in future occasion (assuming he is going to defeat the villains and not die) how MC is going to re-fill that summoning magic?!

Darklight0303 said:


That summoning magic is a one time thing and not even the true form of his potential

Roy_Focker said:
I wonder in future occasion (assuming he is going to defeat the villains and not die) how MC is going to re-fill that summoning magic?!

uzee said:


Oh, you just don't know what you did there 3:)

gowphnx45 said:
A decent episode. The nine-tailed fox and vritara were cool.

No boobies though, kinda disappointed.

But the switch-hime has arrived. Can't wait for Oppai dragon to go into juggernaut mode.

Summon Oppai and Oppai zombies were so hilarious.

Darklight0303 said:


Oh I see. Then he must have some sort of alternate power up I guss.
Juggernaut mode is never coming back. His first time burned away so much of his lifespan that he has only 100 years to live. That's why Koneko is healing him with her power

Royalknightftw said:


Cao cao was just trying to measure his companion's Balance Breaker and he wasn't even serious at that time. After all, everything that happened in this arc was just Cao Cao's experiment.

Mister-axe said:


If everything that happened was Cao Cao's expirement then you are saying that he managed to plan all the events that occurred, inclunding organizing a trip to Kyoto, predicting Issei would go to the trip, knowing that he would find the fox little girl, knowing that he and his friends would be the ones sent to stop Cao Cao's team and that Issei would release a secret power inside him and so on... I find that hard to believe, especially if the motive was simply measuring his teammates powers.
Also wasn't the entire reason for them to be there to capture the big red dragon from the other dimension? Why do something that would prevent this from happening? This hardly is an experiment. The goal of an experiment is to confirm or refute a hypothesis, so what exactly were they trying to prove here?

Darklight0303 said:


Whether it's possible to lure Great Red out of the Dimensional Gap into the real world in this way.

Mister-axe said:


Surely this wouldn't be their motive right? You are not going to draw the creature out if it's "nest" just for the sake of knowing if it's possible right? You are either going to kill it or capture it.
They are going to do one of those things, by testing some kind of trap. To test something is not the same as to do an experiment.

Mister-axe said:


If everything that happened was Cao Cao's expirement then you are saying that he managed to plan all the events that occurred, inclunding organizing a trip to Kyoto, predicting Issei would go to the trip, knowing that he would find the fox little girl, knowing that he and his friends would be the ones sent to stop Cao Cao's team and that Issei would release a secret power inside him and so on... I find that hard to believe, especially if the motive was simply measuring his teammates powers.
Also wasn't the entire reason for them to be there to capture the big red dragon from the other dimension? Why do something that would prevent this from happening? This hardly is an experiment. The goal of an experiment is to confirm or refute a hypothesis, so what exactly were they trying to prove here?

Royalknightftw said:

Never heard of killing one bird in one stone?

At first his main experiment is just to test if the "dragon eater" could work on Great Red AND if it's possible to summon him by gathering a large energy in one place.

But he saw another opportunity when he found out that Issei and co was in the area, most of the members of hero faction just recently attained their balance breaker so he tried to see if his main forces could deal with them one by one, fist by sending half of his main forces and after knowing that Issei and Co was not enough to defeat them, he sent his main forces to deal with them because he was confident that each of them was enough to defeat one or two members of Issei's team .

Oh ya, did you see if Cao Cao was surprised or worried when Asia healed Issei and Co? Nope, because he believed even with Asia's healing, it would do jackshit against them and he didn't consider Issei at that time a real threat but merely a stepping stone.

I am not saying Cao Cao organized all of those things you mentioned, what i meant to say is all the events like attacking Issei on the bridge and kidnapping Yasaka were a part of his experiments

So yeah, Cao Cao considered Issei and co as their stepping stone, but not necessarily as a threat to be killed. And it's also the best time for him to test his members balance breaker

gowphnx45 said:


I see... If not that, Does he have some other power up or something?

Royalknightftw said:

Never heard of killing one bird in one stone?

At first his main experiment is just to test if the "dragon eater" could work on Great Red AND if it's possible to summon him by gathering a large energy in one place.

But he saw another opportunity when he found out that Issei and co was in the area, most of the members of hero faction just recently attained their balance breaker so he tried to see if his main forces could deal with them one by one, fist by sending half of his main forces and after knowing that Issei and Co was not enough to defeat them, he sent his main forces to deal with them because he was confident that each of them was enough to defeat one or two members of Issei's team .

Oh ya, did you see if Cao Cao was surprised or worried when Asia healed Issei and Co? Nope, because he believed even with Asia's healing, it would do jackshit against them and he didn't consider Issei at that time a real threat but merely a stepping stone.

I am not saying Cao Cao organized all of those things you mentioned, what i meant to say is all the events like attacking Issei on the bridge and kidnapping Yasaka were a part of his experiments

So yeah, Cao Cao considered Issei and co as their stepping stone, but not necessarily as a threat to be killed. And it's also the best time for him to test his members balance breaker

Mister-axe said:


Sorry, but I can't get it. If you test a weapon, you want see how much it is effective at killing people. Even if it is a test, the goal of a weapon is the same as any other you already know: kill people. So why on earth isn't the hero faction killing all of them? Especially if they are a threat to the future. Hell, they are a terrorrist organization, this means that they aren't fit to fight head on every mythology, so every casualtie counts and they have a perfect opportunity, because this kids didn't call for backup.
To me, this isn't confidence, it's just a half ass plan that in the end won't serve for nothing. So what if they were testing their sacred gears? Because they are alive, the enemy will have to prepare, train and fight them properly.

Darklight0303 said:


Except if this experiment works, it will completely fulfile the goal of Kaos brigade which is to remove big Red from the dimensional gap so Opphis can go back. The experiment is the freaking priority.