Eromanga-sensei Episode 8 Discussion

AvidAnimeViewer said:

It isn't just the cringe, this show literally baffles me. They both love each other, everyone including themselves knows they love each other, despite this, multiple lolis fall for the guy anyway and their feelings are out in the open as well. And yet... it feels like nothing is happening in the show or from public response.

Kitsu-nee said:



Uh, at least Sagiri's cute I guess.

jasonhan416 said:


I really want to know what episode was that picture from

jasonhan416 said:


I really want to know what episode was that picture from

AvidAnimeViewer said:

It isn't just the cringe, this show literally baffles me. They both love each other, everyone including themselves knows they love each other, despite this, multiple lolis fall for the guy anyway and their feelings are out in the open as well. And yet... it feels like nothing is happening in the show or from public response. It's leagues trashier then Oreimo, but nobody has dropped it yet. It's appeal is its trashiness, yet those same people brought in by it can't fully commit to going with the flow of the trash. It leaves me in a conflicted equilibrium that never feels quite right or wrong or even a semi-palatable combination. I think it's this weird feeling that keeps people watching just because they want to figure out what this odd experience is. Or they're of the "incest is wincest" faction.

Reikuo said:
You literally described every single anime even close to the romance genre.

AvidAnimeViewer said:

Harems and romcoms aren't romance anime. Look at anime like Nana, Golden Time, Nodame Cantabile, etc. if you want to see actual relationships carried out.

Reikuo said:

No thanks. MAL has Eromanga Sensei listed as "Comedy, Drama, Romance" so yea, its a romance. Titanic is just as much of a romance as Mr. Deeds.

AvidAnimeViewer said:


My problem is the uncertainty of Izumi's love. On the one hand he says "I love you as a little sister", on the other hand he can't date other girls because he says, "I'm already in love with someone." You wouldn't reject a girl because you love your little sister as a sister, it's because he loves her as a woman. And it isn't just because he doesn't want to hurt Sagiri's feelings, he genuinely has romantic feelings for her. At no point does he say he feels both brotherly and romantic love (is that even possible?) so which is it? The show doesn't focus on any conflicted feelings he might have about it, it just puts it out there with no further explanation because it's too busy boosting its wish-fulfillment factor by adding more girls to the mix who somehow have no problem with a guy loving his sister. Also, Izumi constantly switches from being aware and oblivious to Sagiri's feelings, so that gives less of a reason to think that they're even fully aware of each other's feelings.

AvidAnimeViewer said:

MAL is not an accurate reference for anything.

Reikuo said:

The show and novels are both romantic comedy. Leave it to the guy who said romcoms are not romance to say MAL is not a good reference for anything. You seem very delusional.

AvidAnimeViewer said:

Guess I should've phrased it as "harems and romcoms aren't about romantic relationships." Most romances in media only lead up to the two getting together, in harem and romcom anime you're lucky if they get that far.

Reikuo said:

Well considering the low number of shows that get full adaptations, that is not surprising. In a completed manga or light novel series usually a conclusion is reached, again most series that get anime adaptations dont get all volumes animated. All your original "romance" examples had over 20 episodes anyway. For someone who claims to be "AvidAnimeViewer" you sure seem to be struggling with the basics. : /

AvidAnimeViewer said:

The adaptation is a separate entity. Light novel and 1 cour adaptations have a problem of relying on people to read the source material after it's done to get the rest, and they may end up waiting 3+ years for the novel to finish (if it ever gets finished) which might not even have a satisfying conclusion. I'm fine with 1 cour harems/romcoms since I know most won't lead anywhere romantically, people expecting any significant development will be left disappointed (also most harems tend to be meh anyway). And the anime and light novels you're talking about only have the couple getting together at the end of the story. The romance anime I'm talking about don't take 13-26+ episodes for the couple to form, you actually get to see their relationship play out.

Reikuo said:

In a harem the climax would be the winner being chosen. They are not going to build up 4-5 candidates and then have a winner by episode 8. It might not be as deep as a stereotypical romance but its still romance and a popular format. As for your original criticism of the show and the point of all this, is that it just falls flat. Your clearly aware of differences between a serious romance, and a harem romcom. So if your going to criticize the show, keeping the ball on the court always helps to drive your point home better. Also Golden Time is very overdramatic and full of just as many tropes as Eromanga Sensei. I never intended to argue taste, however, my only point was that Eromanga Sensei is a romance series.

LoomyTheBrew said:


Bingo. You read my mind. I hate how he's trying to tie the line between brotherly and romantic love, you can't have both. That's a big problem with this show: it doesn't know what it wants to be in general.

AvidAnimeViewer said:
My problem is the uncertainty of Izumi's love. On the one hand he says "I love you as a little sister", on the other hand he can't date other girls because he says, "I'm already in love with someone." You wouldn't reject a girl because you love your little sister as a sister, it's because he loves her as a woman. And it isn't just because he doesn't want to hurt Sagiri's feelings, he genuinely has romantic feelings for her. At no point does he say he feels both brotherly and romantic love (is that even possible?) so which is it? The show doesn't focus on any conflicted feelings he might have about it, it just puts it out there with no further explanation because it's too busy boosting its wish-fulfillment factor by adding more girls to the mix who somehow have no problem with a guy loving his sister. Also, Izumi constantly switches from being aware and oblivious to Sagiri's feelings, so that gives less of a reason to think that they're even fully aware of each other's feelings..

LoomyTheBrew said:


Bingo. You read my mind. I hate how he's trying to tie the line between brotherly and romantic love, you can't have both. That's a big problem with this show: it doesn't know what it wants to be in general.

remechan said:


Sagiri: I have someone I like
Izumi: Gets sad hearing the fact and ends up with the idea he's just liking her as a sister.

Let's put this into perspective - Izumi AND Sagiri both aren't confident. I mean sure Izumi is a published author but recently he's been knocked down so many times on his work submissions that he was about to give up (if not for Elf). You have to remember that he literally thought Eromanga Sensei would leave him immediately after Elf showed up. You can say they're both delusional and maybe it looks obvious to you but not to them.

Heck, Izumi's been trying to get Sagiri out of the room for the past year and failed. And now this same girl actually likes me? Yeah right... It's called self conditioning (to make oneself feel better). No I only like her a sister because it's impossible.

p.s. totally agree the last few episodes are bad. It went on a light novel tangent. I rather have the Megumi episodes than this. Whoever that came out of nowhere and hit on Izumi was ehhh. At least Elf was cool. She even played the piano.

Djidji said:
@AvidAnimeViewer @LoomyTheBrew @remechan

Well, Masamune is torned between is love for Sagiri as a girl and as a part of family. He chose to favor his love for her as a brother's one because having a family is way more important for him due to his past, having lost her mother once then lost his father after he married again, he years for a family.
But Masamune is like Muramasa, it's not because his love got denied that he will stop loving her so easily. And would he morally accept dating someone else while still having those feeling? I don't think he would.
What matters is knowing if the girls will change him or not.

Also, the show made it clear that Sagiri love Masamune (that's why she doesn't want to act as his sister) by focusing a lot on Sagiri's facial expressions and reactions, but that doesn't mean it's as clear for Masamune.
Plus, Masamune know Sagiri only as a "little sister" while the anime hinted Sagiri know Masamune for a while and loved him first as a writer who got his story published later. (Hints are her reaction when Muramasa came in their house and the art she was drawing when younger.)

Otherwise, romcom (and particularly harem ones) still are romance, but it's unlikely to be more "real" than the other one. It's not because the romance is not the main focus of the serie (as a genre) that there is no romance at all. :o

IceTiger_Zenpia said:
Ahaha I ship it so hard... idc if people say it's incest, their still an incredibly cute ship and I would love for it to come true!!! sagamune anyone?!?