Bleach: Sennen Kessen-hen - Soukoku-tan Episode 2 Discussion

Yhwach may be reaching Aizen levels of manipulation here. “I foresaw it” is the new “all according to my plan”.

My only question is where the hell Uryu and the others went.

In the 2nd episode the pacing was so bad they didn't even adapt 3 whole chapters, how can ppl go crazy about just a fight which was illogical to a certain point, I love bleach the both the episodes were not good till now (can forgive 1st for too good animation) but the 2nd would be 7/10 max

OMG ok we actually got the soul king name drop. His name is Adnyeus. What's even crazier is that someone on Reddit actually predicted this.

Also Yhwach really pulled another Aizen with the I planned foresaw your entire existence

Honestly though wouldn't it be funny if Orihime then just casually fixes the Soul King with her broken powers?

Yhwach: Wtf I didn't see this happen. Where did this bread girl come from.

@Antanaru but when Dragon Ball does it, no one says anything bad... lol
If you want choreography maybe you'll like the Schutzstaffel fights, like Shunsui and Nanao vs Lille... or maybe not since I figured out you're already watching it just to say it's garbage week after week.

And Chad has zero chance against the Schutzstaffel, hence why he's not fighting, aside from being Ichigo's best friend, he has some sort of connection to the Soul Society since he fought here before to rescue Rukia, that's why he is here along with the crew, he knows all of these captains and lieutenants, he knows Nel (Yhwach attacked the Hueco Mundo as well), he cares basically, it's just that he's not strong enough.

If Kubo gives Chad a power-up in the anime, people would probably complain saying it feels forced as they're already complaining about Uryuu "defeating" Senjumaru.

@yasm "But whatever, I'm not watching Bleach for the writing, the dialogue, the character depth. I'm watching it for fun, for the action, for the cool visuals." Ah, a classic. "How do you do, fellow Bleach fans!" This is a surefire way to out yourself as a layman speedreader, and it'll become evident once you read my second paragraph. There's a reason Kubo is the most influential shounen magaka post-Dragon Ball and it isn't just because of his sense of style/aesthetics and power designs. Character and story framework as well as thematic character writing are pretty obvious to apprehend from them if you actually understand Bleach. It's obvious which of the "Big 3" the modern shounen landscape resembles most today not just in how they look but how the pages read and move as well. Of course, these new mangaka attempt to replicate their inspiration to varying degrees of quality.

And this guy really just asked why Ichigo—one of the most powerful characters to ever exist in the series at this point—was allowed into the Soul Palace while Quincies were marching towards the lynchpin of the universe to rewrite the world order while massacring the Royal Guards on their way. And where are you getting this notion that Ichigo is the only one who can kill the Soul King? Yhwach made Ichigo land the finishing blow because it's prophetic and poetic. He effortlessly impaled him himself in the previous episode. If you still aren't convinced then the next episode should make it perfectly clear that Yhwach has the means to do it himself. You see, this is what I mean by you being a speedreader. In this case, someone who turns his brain off and just consumes the flashing lights without taking in the actual narrative because it turns out Kubo hates spoonfeeding his audience and treating them like meatheads (unlike other shounen). One needs to comprehend visual storytelling and subtle context clues to properly grasp Bleach because Kubo uses literary techniques such as symbolism, allegory and especially subtext a lot while taking inspiration from actual art beyond the animanga ouroboros, such as philosophy, literature and music. This is not a light novel or your standard shounen where everything can be read just from the dialogue. Bleach is Kubo's art-piece. The average animanga consumer will enjoy this series because it excels even on the surface level, but he won't completely pick up on the deceptive amount of depth underneath (especially not on the first read) for the aforementioned reasons.

"But why didn't he use his Bankai at least?" His Bankai is so powerful it would've probably destroyed the entire palace just from clashing with Yhwach lol, which is the thing he's precisely trying to avoid here. If you've read the manga then you'd know this.

"Some people have pointed out" I know who you're referencing here and I wouldn't take him seriously, he's a notorious Re:Z*ro-tard who was making the same awful attempts at critique during Frieren as well.

@-za- let's have some fun. I'll take the bait.



I never said I'm a Bleach fan. I'm just having fun seeing the conclusion of an anime I sorta kinda liked when I was a teen. I think I read parts of the manga at some point, but it's been so long my memory's fuzzy — I didn't even know this arc existed until it started getting animated. So yeah, I'm absolutely not a Bleach expert, and I never pretended to be one. Don't make assumptions about what people are or want to be.



Yhwach literally said "To completely break the Soul King's seal, I needed someone who possessed the powers of Quincies, humans, Soul Reapers, Fullbringers, and Hollows... I needed you, who possessed all of them." Which literally means Yhwach couldn't have done it without Ichigo. Who's the speedreader, here? Maybe this was different in the manga.



LOL. Maybe you're just trolling. Sorry for feeding you.



Ah, right, the "I'm so powerful now I actually can't use my powers Deus Ex Machina". Truly a sign of great writing. Very clever.



LOLOLOL. I guess it's a given that people watching Bleach nowadays have read the manga? I like going in spoiler-free, thank you very much.



Not sure we are referring to the same guy, I saw a couple making some good points, though I don't entirely agree with them. I actually sympathise with you on the Re:Z fans, I watch that too but I don't get why some people think it's such a masterpiece, and will lash out at actually great works like Frieren.

I understand why they skipped that part to make the episode more dark toned but 8 min of expression wasn't necessary, expansion is to add parts which were missed or were must , I am not completely against that fight It was just illogical as why would uhabaha like close his eyes after awakening , that's bad pacing

I am not a fan of fanservice if you like it it's your opinion