| When I read and watched a bit of Berserk, I did not understand what it was I was supposed to like about it. |
| その目だれの目？ |
| I like Conan the Barbarian much better |
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It’s absolutely overrated. The only arc worth mentioning is Golden age and anything past that has questionable representation of female characters and lots of gratuitous rape of women who happen to all look like Barbies.
| @tabbycatcircus Oh, wow. Outdated based "only Golden age" comment and complete lack of any understanding, intelligence or even relevance of material after. |
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Saphiran said:
@tabbycatcircus
Oh, wow. Outdated based "only Golden age" comment and complete lack of any understanding, intelligence or even relevance of material after.
@tabbycatcircus
Oh, wow. Outdated based "only Golden age" comment and complete lack of any understanding, intelligence or even relevance of material after.
Guts gets friends… ok? Nothing justifies the women always being the weird sexual ones, Casca getting sidlelined in the Guts Griffith conflict (which is another homoerotic rivalry how groundbreaking), and gratuitous rape of women. Berserk absolutely does not deserve to be jerked off this much. Moreover Guts is never going to defeat Griffith as he gets power up after power up. I respect a series more when it actually manages to get finished and have a good story.
| @tabbycatcircus Then just say that. Women being overly sexualized and too much rape. If that's the issue for you, fine. But, no comment on actual storytelling? Psychology, philosophy that are, funny enough, introduced in the very next arc! |
| Oh, to answer the question. No, I do not think Berserk is overrated. I do think that Golden age is overrated which makes some people think that Berserk itself is overrated. |
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Saphiran said:
@tabbycatcircus Then just say that. Women being overly sexualized and too much rape. If that's the issue for you, fine. But, no comment on actual storytelling? Psychology, philosophy that are, funny enough, introduced in the very next arc!
@tabbycatcircus Then just say that. Women being overly sexualized and too much rape. If that's the issue for you, fine. But, no comment on actual storytelling? Psychology, philosophy that are, funny enough, introduced in the very next arc!
Ok sure.
Puck is irrelevant for no reason
The philosophies go nowhere
The fact that Casca and Guts are using each other as replacements for Griffith is never addressed (this is treated as “true love”)
And again. Griffith gets power up after power up and this will never end. The story can’t resolve itself. It’s not a good one after Golden Age.
| @tabbycatcircus That's pretty vague and incorrect. You do realize that by your own logic, that would make Golden Age completely irrelevant to the overall story? |
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Saphiran said:
@tabbycatcircus
That's pretty vague and incorrect. You do realize that by your own logic, that would make Golden Age completely irrelevant to the overall story?
@tabbycatcircus
That's pretty vague and incorrect. You do realize that by your own logic, that would make Golden Age completely irrelevant to the overall story?
Not if the overall story doesn’t make sense either
| @tabbycatcircus So, what is overall story then? |
| Even if a lot of people in here said: "Yeah, it's not all that good" What does it actually matter? It's beloved by so many^^ |
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Miura had 20 years to figure that one out yet keeps making Griffith OP and increasing his list of atrocities. There’s hardly any story.
| @tabbycatcircus Miura did that in the very first arc though. |
| I think it's appropriately rated. |
| I think the series is fine. If you like the dark theme, you will enjoy better. |
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| Personally, yes. I liked Berserk when I first read it as a teenager but looking back at it now, I am not sure why I liked it. |
| No I don't. Even if it's not my personal favorite manga, I can't imagine any other sitting at the #1 spot with the amount of influence and quality that Berserk has |
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| Yes, it's the most overrated manga ever. |
| Every praised work will be seen as overrated by someone. What can you do lol |
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| Yes, Berserk is kinda overrated. It's not the best manga ever written and ever created. But is there any work like that? And also, don't get me wrong, it's a very good and successful manga, extremely fun to read, with beautiful art (otherwise, I wouldn't have read it for so many years, haha), and many interesting themes implemented into the plot or characters. It deserves its cult status in the world of manga, and it has been loved by many for a lot of years (which can be easily checked by seeing how well Berserk fares in terms of sales, despite being rather old, still on-going manga, and a seinen, in the market dominated by shounen series). But thanks to some fans, mostly kidults or soulslike fans to whom Berserk is "baby's first and probably last seinen manga", in the recent years we could see a lot of wacky, obnoxious behavior and hypocrisy coming from people posing to be "huge Berserk fans". Thrashing Kentarou Miura when he was still alive, only to start treating him like a god once he died; treating Berserk as if it was flawless (nothing is flawless); being really mean towards Studio Gaga and Kouji Mori, calling their work "low-quality shitty fanfic" or stuff like that; treating the fact that Berserk didn't end with Miura's death as disgrace. When you see clowns representing such behavior and gathering like flies around feces each time someone wants to have a nice, cultural conversation about Berserk, then you can't blame bystanders or more casual fans to think of Berserk as "overrated dark fantasy for immature edgelords". It's not the manga's fault that some of its fans are so vocal and make it, and also other fans, look bad, but like I said before: you can't blame sane and emotionally stable readers for their bad impression on people claiming to be "extreme Berserk fans for years" (several months after actually learning about the series, duh) and treating Berserk as if it had absolutely the best art and flawless, mature story, with other manga titles (mostly seinen, but not only) being vastly inferior to Berserk in every aspect. tl;dr It might be overrated from one reason or another, but who cares? I like it anyway, with all its positive and negative elements or moments, and I don't plan to drop it after all those years. Not because of sunk cost fallacy, but because I find it so damn good and entertaining. Rest in peace, Kentarou Miura. |
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