Spice and Wolf (light novel)
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| Not going to lie, I find some of Holo's childish behavior to be very amusing. Now that Lawrence and Holo are getting along with each other more, they're also starting to understand each other. Holo's curiousity is also quite cute though. Lawrence seems to be cautious around her but we already have Holo enjoying food. It should be a recurring gag this season if it's similar to the franchise. I like this pacing overall so far. They're fleshing out Lawrence and Holo's personalities while giving them time to build a relationship. |
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| Yes, I mean Holo is a holy creature, so of course she could easily sense if someone’s lying or not just from.. hearing them talk. Though this is for later, for now, since Holo is already Lawrence’s “wife”, he should lay off his attempts of not looking at her whenever she's her usual self.. in simple words naked lol, right? Or maybe not. Liked how they had to take shelter from rain at a place they should be at a distance from… … a church lol. By the way, smart guys never try to make deals in a church, and moreover if it’s a deal coming from someone who has his eyes closed and looks like a textbook example of a swindler, like Zheren, leave that deal right there. Though hey, not like Lawrenve did believe him to begin with, but I mean being a merchant, of course he went with a deal which, even in an off-chance, could make him some good silvers.. maybe lol. Again the constant back and forth between Holo and Lawrence was the highlight, and it’d be going forward as well. Though hey, don’t get so worked up over a wolf joke, Lawrence;) And don’t make it heavy. |
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| Off go the merchant and the wise wolf on their journey. Lawrence, tasked with escorting Holo to her distant northern homeland, finds himself caught in a downpour on their journey to the next destination. Seeking shelter from the rain, they spend the night at a church. While Lawrence dries his wet clothes and engages in conversation with the guests in the grand hall, they are approached by a fledgling merchant named Zheren, who presents them with a dubious business proposition. In their room later, Lawrence presents Holo with a leather pouch containing some of her wheat. During dinner, Holo confides in Lawrence that she sensed Zheren was lying, though neither of them understands the reason behind it. Despite the uncertainty, Lawrence resolves to accept Zheren's offer, hoping to either profit from it as promised or uncover the true intentions behind the proposal. So there are more merchants like Lawrence, huh? This makes things a bit more interesting. |
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| Ugh this felt like 5 minutes. Really loved their conversations as usual but that part when Lawrence wanted Holo to stop talking about the wolves eating humans brain was my favorite part, for Holo especially I can imagine that she has seen her fair share of trauma. Those potatoes with goat cheese looked delicious btw, can't blame Holo. |
redorzoApr 8, 12:27 PM
Xiarno said: @Alexioos95 Huh. I'm surprised they're doing it after the episode released and not before. Like I'm surprised they don't actually have the episode themselves beforehand to be ready for release. They do, they just have to release it a bit later than when it airs on Japanese TV because of contracts I assume. (There have been cases where an episode leaked before the Japanese broadcast, like with Konosuba and Hibike! Euphonium this season. Also it's literally impossible to sub an episode so fast.) |
EmbientApr 8, 11:47 AM
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| Why does this have to release at 12 AM for me :') Good episode. I love Holo so much already. |
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| I'm happy to watch it for the first time and that we get 25 episodes. My Frieren replacement in some way haha. |
| “Do what feels right in your heart. You will be criticized either way.” (Eleanor Roosevelt) |
| Yes keep em coming, more Holo stuff. |
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| Another episode is in the books, and this was a decent showing. I knew the pacing for the first episode was going to be good, but good to see that this episode also flowed well and did not unnecessarily rush things for the sake of covering the volumes quickly. In fact, it followed nearly the same kind of pacing the original's 2nd episode did and ended in the same spot, which shows me some good signs admittedly. This episode was fairly underwhelming and flat visually at times but the storytelling, music and Holo remains to be the series' highlights here. The art direction could be better, conversations did have some different camera angles used at times like in the room during Holo and Lawrence's conversation, some working and some looking a bit iffy. But it was nice seeing Holo and Lawrence's chemistry develop strongly over the course of the episode, with my favorite stuff coming at the end of the episode when discussing some traumatic issues surrounding the wolves attacking humans, which has been impactful for both parties in the past. Was also interesting seeing some conversations with economics and propositions between merchants in Lawrence and Zheren, even though Zheren gave off typical swindler vibes during the conversation. Still miss Holo's old anime design, not going to lie since from just minor comparisons when checking the pacing of both episodes, she came off more charming in that version for me. At least she is still good here. |
| Loved every second of it, had the biggest smile while watching it |
| Infinite growth is the ideology of a cancer cell |
| I highly doubt there is anyone out there who watched the og Spice & Wolf and hated it, myself included I love everything about Spice & Wolf, but honestly out of all anime to remake I don't think I would've chosen this one mainly because the previous adaptation was really decent, of course a good remake is always welcome and a bonus to the stans but in the same breath I can equally see how this could backfire if they decide to veer slightly from the original, I've seen people lose their shit from just a few panels not being included from their favourite manga. |
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| I'd say to people who are new to the story that this episode is the 'real' start of the story in a way, it is a pretty good example of what the show can/will be: Holo's feisty personality, her banters with Lawrence, them trying to outwit/impress the other, some flirting, some medieval trading/economy mystery to solve, but also occasionally some pretty heavy/melancholic moments as seen at the end of the episode. Overall, I absolutely adored this episode as it's always been one of my favorite parts of the story: Lawrence introducing Holo as his wife and improvising that clever lie to explain why she hides her face, Holo revealing her fun and playful personality (waaay too many good lines from her to pick just one), them clearly growing a lot closer already. And, yeah, I just love the atmosphere, the rain, lots of little things like Holo smiling under her hood during the exchange with the merchant or stuffing her face like crazy (spoiler: this is not the last time haha). It also looks nice and the voice acting was fantastic, so... can't wait next week again! |
| The ep went by too fast.. I need more Holo |
| Holo Mondays. I hope this adapts the parts that the OG series didn't and we get the full story eventually. |
| This episode had it all. We got to learn more about how Lawrence makes transactions, saw some being made, one legit and one possibly not. Our knowledge of the Church was expanded, especially we saw how it influences Holo. And of course, we had more wholesome (and scary/sad) moments with our main characters. There is nothing else you could ask for. (Btw Holo, you should try chewing, it's helpful. You don't need to choke on potatos everytime (even if it's adorable)) |
| I have never seen the original anime, so I don't have that comparison to make, but I am really enjoying this so far. I like the relationship between Holo and Lawrence, and a lot of the writing is clever and entertaining. The art and animation has been very pleasant, as well, and the world seems vibrant and interesting. I'm excited to see what comes next! |
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Reply to animrok_123
You have to be very mentally ill or have very bad taste to vote negatively for this beautiful work.
| @animrok_123 There is definitely some weird shitpost brigade on sections of the internet against this reboot. Personally I loved the original when it aired and I'm enjoying this as well. |
| Back once again with the new episode of Spice and Wolf. Seeing Holo act all childish when food is brought out is very cute along with how she doesn't chew because wolfs don't chew. (You need to chew Holo or your gonna choke, as we have already seen.) This castle/church we have arrived at was a very interesting place. I really liked the overall design of it along with the characters we met such as that royal lad Lawrence was talking to in the fire place lounge area, I kinda hope we see him again. Though that other guy Holo and Lawrence met is definitely trying to scam them and pull a fast one on them. At least that's my opinion on him. Lawrence excuse for Holo wearing her robes/coverings is very unique and it was cool he came up with it on the fly. Holo and Lawrence's relationship is cute and I cant wait to see it bloom throughout the show with them growing closer together. I also cant wait for future episodes along with seeing Holos home town. Something I've really been enjoying in recent anime is the "Scenicness" of the overall landscape and far out background of the nature. I'm glad its prominent here and I really like the overall designs and towns in this show. I really want more anime to take place in older times such as medieval times or something, it would be nice to see. The general scenic views in this show are nice and it kinda reminds me of Frieren which I gotta finish soon. |
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| not too much to say, the visuals are good and more holo is nice. |
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| Ok, so I guess people at Passione could not help themselves, so we gonna have more quality Holo fanservice. That's Passione for ya. 🤣 Not that I complain. |
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| Sleeping in the wild must be a pretty unique exp. Given the threat from wildlife and bandits. The discussion within the common room really was insightful. Holo's reaction at seeing the food was adorable. But it was nice seeing Holo's bond with Lawrence grow simultanious with her knowlege of her new body. Animal attacks though are always traumatic no matter what it was. Still seeing things from the POV of the wolves was also interesting. |
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| passione knows what they are doing huh, i'm not complaining (that's a good thing) i need more holooo  |
| Lawrence dude forget about making Holo repay everything directly, just have her work as a lie detector lol, save yourself the hassle of fraudulent investments as a freelance merchant :P Holo's ears when she realized she upset Lawrence ;-; Also, it's interesting of Holo to compare burn scars to her ears and tail—she sees no shame in hiding them for the sake of convenience and avoiding unwanted attention :) |
| I was really worried whether this remake would be good or not. And the first episode wasn’t really the best judge because it’s only an introduction. But after this I don’t think I’ll have to worry. It’s certainly looking like it will live up to the original. |
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| Episode 2 of Spice and Wolf(2024) may not have had the impressive animation of the premiere, but what it lacked in action it made up for in character interactions. As a first time viewer of the series, I’m already loving Holo and Lawrence’s relationship and the banter and melancholic moments they share. The general theme of the episode being that Lawrence and Holo have grown up in separate worlds and have some different views on things because of their experiences. With Lawrence’s past trauma he has some negative emotions about wolves, but to wolves humans have done awful things as well. I really like the analogy they drew between Dogs and wolves with dogs being domesticated and close to humans while wolves are hunted and feared. Thought the scene of Holo apologising to Lawrence for making him angry was so cute too. First time we’ve seen her not be the teasing and mischievous Holo. There’s some pain she’s holding in as well and I can’t wait to see them work through it! 25 minutes of dialogue and it went by in a breeze. |
Marinate1016Apr 8, 6:05 PM
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| Another great episode from Holo! Everything about it is beautiful and anyone who doubted the change in artstyle, should not have doubts anymore. This is why we must always trust in the decisions made by Holo and always support her. Holo does what is best for our nation and our anime. Holo no clothes on :D But it is different because Holo is wolf. And Holo is always so cute And yes for Holo eating her potatoes is more important than her necklace for her wheat :D Zheren you can punch in the face. And that is what Holo should do |
| Receiving my now weekly Holo dopamine. |
| i'm starting to be disappointed, i was hopeful but the dialogues, the interactions, reactions, even the continuity of the shots and the sound direction (is it really useful to make us hear the cart wheels so much and make this scene drag on so long), they just don't feel as right as in the first anime (of course not talking about the global visual style that also feels wholly different) sad still trying to enjoy it but yeah... also they gotta stop with these wide shots, it looks terrible, and the characters look badly integrated, especially because the backgrounds lack so much detail i guess but also because of the weird luminosity it feels like a point and click or some video game edit: also, incredible amount of nudity fanservice from this episode, but i'm not gonna complain too much |
lighthalzen-kunApr 8, 6:11 PM
 “Read as little as possible of critical or aesthetic works. They are either products of a close-minded spirit, petrified and devoid of meaning in their lifeless hardening, or clever verbal games [...]. Works of art are of an infinite solitude; nothing is worse than criticism for approaching them. Only love can grasp them, keep them, be just toward them. Always give precedence to your own feeling against these analyses, these reviews, these introductions. [...] You must let every impression, every seed of feeling, ripen within you, in the dark, in the inexpressible, in the unconscious, those regions closed to understanding. Wait with humility and patience for the hour of the birth of a new clarity. Art demands of its faithful followers as much as of its creators.” — RAINER-MARIA Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet (letter dated April 23, 1903). |
| You know a show is good when the episode is pretty much all talking but it went by so fast, I’ve been experiencing this recently as I watch through Monogatari as well, of course that show does its talking scenes in a very unique way but I like what we have here, it helps that I like the relationship between Lawrence and Holo a lot already too. And I’m a bit surprised we’re getting more nude Holo, but it is Passione we’re dealing with here lol, not that I’m complaining, I like that Lawrence just kinda deals with it too and doesn’t get too flustered by it. It was also cute watching Holo try to down those potatoes covered in cheese but struggling due to the human form, she’s gotta learn to chew lol. And plot wise we got a deal with this shady lad talking about silver coins, and with Holo’s lie detecting ears we know that he’s not the most trustworthy fella, but after Lawrence discussed things with Holo it turns out he would have done the same thing with or without Holo, but I can see those ears playing a bigger role in the future. And lastly I really liked that last scene where we got to hear about both sides of being a human and a wolf in regards to one fearing the other, wolves are scary without a doubt but from their POV humans could be seen in a similar light, it’s just unfortunate wolves don’t turn into beautiful babes irl lol. And it’s nice to hear the adaptation is good so far, one thing I’ll be keeping an eye out for in these threads is how this adaptation compares to the original as I am neither a LN reader or someone that’s seen the original show lol. |
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