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| Damn, a past event in Pride's life just came back. Not going to lie, I think this episode was really intense on emtions. That criminal looks like he held anger and emotions and directed all towards Pride. Probably not an evil person but that could've been much worse than it looked. |
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| Geez, Val restrains his violence from being directed towards anyone, but he unleashes it on inanimate objects, especially when he's grappling with complex emotions. Despite his remarkable abilities, he remains unable to channel those skills effectively. Val presents himself as indifferent to the children, initially viewing them as mere orphans tagging along, seeking his protection. However, over time, their shared experiences lead to their growth as an integral part of him. This also marks the first instance in his life where he experiences genuine emotions and concern for another. These newfound feelings are so unfamiliar that he struggles to process or articulate them, resulting in an inability to express his deep affection for Kemet and Sefec. Tiara notices his internal anguish, while Pride successfully guides him to recognize that he has discovered a newfound family worth safeguarding. Junichi Suwabe truly excels in delivering exceptionally moving performances in 2023. |
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| Weekly Pride Appreciation Post That last scene with Pride and Val crying together is exactly why I love this series. People who hate on it in their reviews talk about “nothing happening” like it’s a battle shonen. There’s not supposed to be a lot of action in this series. It’s about pride winning over one person at a time and establishing these interpersonal relationships. Not every fantasy series needs to be defeating a demon lord or a big adventure. Seeing people like Val, with such cold and prickly exteriors gradually melting away and revealing their true vulnerabilities is so satisfying. Kermet and Sefec may have started out as nuisances, but somewhere along the way they have become his genuine family. I just love how Pride handled this situation. Everyone knew val needed help, but she just needed him to come out and say it. Telling everyone to leave the room and facing him one on one was a great decision and ultimately paid off. Seeing how she navigates these situations is always so interesting. Arthur, Stale, Gilbert and now Val have all had their own unique issues and she’s been able to find ways to reach each one! Can’t wait for next ep. |
Marinate1016Aug 31, 2023 9:30 AM
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| Nice character development! Finally! This is the character that I've been waiting to change for the good. To think his feelings have yet to know what a family is because of his past. How this was portrayed really clearly in this episode with such clearance was wonderfully executed. I will not be the one to hate this because of just one aspect of the story because of the slavery things , thanks to Pride, he can finally change for the better. However, he made Tiara cry... *angry noises* A tool is neither good nor evil. Whoever uses them can be called good or evil but no one can be good because only God is truly good. |
CrazyButNot4UAug 31, 2023 10:58 AM
| It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
| The deconstruction of reborn in a game world is close. Probably one of he best shows this season |
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| So much talking, and almost the whole episode was set in a single room... Cool 1 or 2 moments, ultimately boring as heck. |
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| Overly melodramatic; it was less touching and emotional, and more annoying and drawn out. |
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| What a dramatic episode with some intense feelings! |
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felixsifuri said: That is called a bottle episode^^and almost the whole episode was set in a single room I found it suprisingly powerful and moving, especially because of his inability to disobey her. He was kinda forced into a realization that he probably never would have achieved on his own... |
StateofOhayo said: this sums it up quite right.Overly melodramatic; it was less touching and emotional, and more annoying and drawn out. |
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ryzxgum said: i see some calling this sort of reaction "sociopathic" but really it just felt forced and hamfisted. like, instead of exposition dump, show us what he's been up to over time, have a B or C sub plot line following him and weave it all into the crescendo of the kids being abducted. but instead they just said "this happened oh and btw this is what i've been doing but i'm going to be edgy for 20 minutes while dumping this info, now be sad damnit". StateofOhayo said: this sums it up quite right.Overly melodramatic; it was less touching and emotional, and more annoying and drawn out. totally inorganic. i'm a huge cry baby sometimes when it comes to emotional scenes but this was not one at all. it also dragged on too long. if they had practiced "show don't tell" and nailed the timing, it would have had more impact. |
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| This guy must have lived a pretty messed up life. |
| Val gave up on his stubbornness at last. Pride handled it well. |
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| This episode was a bit of a rollercoaster while really not much happened, cool how that can happen lol. The situation with Val was an interesting one, and wow that dude was suffering on another level not just due to the feelings he didn’t understand, but also because of the contract. We haven’t really seen the contracts in full effect until now and it really did force every word and action out of him, you could tell he absolutely hated it too, you might argue that it’s cruel of Pride but I know she’s just trying to help too, and I’m betting she might release the contract once this situation is over. But man, for a second I was thinking Val truly didn’t give a shit about the kids but no, the man just doesn’t have an idea on what it is he’s been feeling lol, once he explained the exact feelings he’s had it was clear. Also lucky lad got a Pride hug, I’m sure he wasn’t feeling lucky tho lol, looking forward to seeing where this arc goes! |
| That fealty contract really is crueler than I thought it would be how much it can control someone. It's worse than slavery because they cant even keep a secret and their actions are totally under control even without anyone watching over them. Even if Pride means well she could easily force someone to divulge things she would regret forcing out of them. I actually like how they approached things with Val since it came out like a mystery on why he seemed to care but unable to lie say he didn't and keep acting like the same bastard he was before till the very last moment which is a more unique approach than a slow character progression you see done all over the place. I never would have expected a character like him would make me teary eyed. Marinate1016 said: That last scene with Pride and Val crying together is exactly why I love this series. People who hate on it in their reviews talk about “nothing happening” like it’s a battle shonen. There’s not supposed to be a lot of action in this series. It’s about pride winning over one person at a time and establishing these interpersonal relationships. Not every fantasy series needs to be defeating a demon lord or a big adventure. Seeing people like Val, with such cold and prickly exteriors gradually melting away and revealing their true vulnerabilities is so satisfying. Kermet and Sefec may have started out as nuisances, but somewhere along the way they have become his genuine family. I just love how Pride handled this situation. Everyone knew val needed help, but she just needed him to come out and say it. Telling everyone to leave the room and facing him one on one was a great decision and ultimately paid off. Seeing how she navigates these situations is always so interesting. Arthur, Stale, Gilbert and now Val have all had their own unique issues and she’s been able to find ways to reach each one! Yeah I don't really get why some people have difficulty with things like this. Maybe they just dont really relate or deal with different types of people enough to understand what it feels like on either side. It was all about people skills for Pride to read into his actions and be able to handle the situation on how to get to the bottom of things and comfort Val which is like trying to comfort an injured dog that is trying to bite you. |
| w0w! IMPRESSIVE Emotional episode! hats-off great performance by VA Junichi Suwabe to Val! 5/5. |
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| It's hard to feel the emotions the anime is trying to convey when the solution to the problem is literally just mind control. It would have been better if Val willingly told Pride about the situation and about how much he cared about those children. Pride can still help him understand his feelings for the children and how much they mean to him but instead Pride just uses mind control to figure it out which destroys any sense of meaningful conversation and emotions from this episode. |
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So much talking, and almost the whole episode was set in a single room... Cool 1 or 2 moments, ultimately boring as heck.
| @felixsifuri It's not an anime but a movie called 12 Angry Men is one of my favorite movies of all time and 95% of the movie takes place in a jury's room and it's basically all talking. Unfortunately I have to agree with you this episode was really boring but it can be done right is my point. |
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@felixsifuri It's not an anime but a movie called 12 Angry Men is one of my favorite movies of all time and 95% of the movie takes place in a jury's room and it's basically all talking. Unfortunately I have to agree with you this episode was really boring but it can be done right is my point.
WaffleMaster89 said: It's not an anime but a movie called 12 Angry Men is one of my favorite movies of all time and 95% of the movie takes place in a jury's room and it's basically all talking. Similar case with "The man from Earth", and I love that movie! A good screenplay goes a long way. |
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| I was pissed off at first but wow that was emotional. Looks like he'll turn for the better now, thank goodness. |
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| Val makes a return, though him tumbling on the road being unconscious and injured, what's the geddup? As usual, the reluctant servant who has sweared fealty to her before, it took all of Pride's commands to squeeze intel out of him, and this human trafficking business is to be stopped immediately, though it seems like he didn't want help to rescue them so that he can live a comfortable life using those same children as his servants. Entrusting Tiara to both Stale and Arthur, her sensitivity is too great of a burden to bear, and it's down to Pride and Val to save Kemet and Sefec. Pride wanting to know the context of the story from Val, it seems that both Kemet and Sefec have been following his trails everywhere he goes. But the fealty contract forces Val to think from his heart against his head, and this is an emotion that he just will not understand. And to alleviate this pain, Pride compels to him of her own emotions that she felt playing as a villain. All Val needed was understanding, and Pride did just that. |
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| This show is so awkward and boring. The premise is nothing new and I can vibe with that, but the execution is just really nothing special. 9 episodes in, and I still don't see why we should root for the main characters, everything is quite predictable. And Pride is not a very likeable character despite how desperately she tries to act good. That's actually a bit annoying, tbh. |
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| OMG what has this anime been... It's been getting more gripping as time goes on. I keep finding myself wondering how it is so good. That is indeed the perfect punishment, but also a reward, a life of repentance and reclaimed virtue. |
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| I'm cryingggggggggggggggggg T_T |
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| damn the way Pride talked to him giving him orders ... goosebumps lol good thing Val can't hurt her, he probably wanted to hurt her pretty hard |
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| That was intense. But it dragged on. |
| I hated this episode. There is no rational reason for princess to care about some rude criminal who was given a plenty of chances to show humility and remorse and is still annoying, loud and vulgar. I know it's a fairytale but this guy should be executed for his behaviour long time before episode ends and this whole scene just drags on and on with boring questions and boring answers, everything overly and unrealistically dramatic. Why should I care about someone this rude and obnoxious. Doesn't make any sense, I didn't feel nothing in this episode but annoyance and boredom. |
| like 80% of the episode was spent in that destroyed room |
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| Best way to make a tsundere be honest? A magic contract that forces them to do so might be up there. Val definitely had a cruddy life if it took adulthood to finally learn to care about someone else. |
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| This was genuinely a good episode. While not much plot wise progressed, I think seeing how Val's emotions broke down and understanding what familial connections meant was touching. It also was done in a fairly organic and natural way, not rush as this type of stuff tends to be. After the first 3 episode, the pacing slowed down a lot to a fault but I think this level of pacing was perfect for the emotional and personality deconstruction. Even though we didn't experience it first hand, the way he was before, and the way he is now, and how he is in denial is actually good character development. It feels organic and not rush. It just happened behind the scenes until now, but we can FEEL that he has built up a connection even if not directly shown. If all the episodes was this level of quality, I would rate this series higher, but this was more a exception than the standard unfortunately. I really like the show's themes and concept, just wasn't executed well. Mainly pacing but also some narrative choices early on. Pride is very empathetic towards other given how much she cries and relates to other's suffering. That said, like how these last two episodes haven't seen her bemoaning how she'll be evil anymore. It seems she passively acknowledged she's not evil and won't be evil. I know a lot of people were annoyed about it, but the series definitely has gotten better over the past few episodes. |
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