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Jun 11, 2023 8:38 PM
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During the first episode I didn't expect that many people hated it because it turned out to be the MC but in my opinion it was included in the good category starting from the visuals, OST, plots that weren't skipped etc. Quite surprised at this time to get a score of 7.01.
As I went through episode 5 the score was getting higher, I asked, "where did the haters go? They started to worship? Seriously? And now it has reached 7.71 ?"

I mean like.. wtf? Ar u kidding me guys?
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Jun 11, 2023 8:46 PM
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Mal users are hard to please lol
Jun 11, 2023 8:47 PM
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Rinkahai said:
During the first episode I didn't expect that many people hated it because it turned out to be the MC but in my opinion it was included in the good category starting from the visuals, OST, plots that weren't skipped etc. Quite surprised at this time to get a score of 7.01.
As I went through episode 5 the score was getting higher, I asked, "where did the haters go? They started to worship? Seriously? And now it has reached 7.71 ?"

I mean like.. wtf? Ar u kidding me guys?
Nah, it's rather that people who actively disliked it didn't bother to watch and score the remaining episodes, so the ones who liked the remaining episodes managed to raise the score.
Jun 11, 2023 9:41 PM
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Rinkahai said:
During the first episode I didn't expect that many people hated it because it turned out to be the MC but in my opinion it was included in the good category starting from the visuals, OST, plots that weren't skipped etc. Quite surprised at this time to get a score of 7.01.
As I went through episode 5 the score was getting higher, I asked, "where did the haters go? They started to worship? Seriously? And now it has reached 7.71 ?"

I mean like.. wtf? Ar u kidding me guys?

Agreed I also noticed at 1st many user were like this anime is trash but after 5 episodes they were like this is one of the best.

really they don't access the plot at all. they judge book by their cover. seriously wtf! Man
Jun 11, 2023 10:57 PM
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Rinkahai said:
During the first episode I didn't expect that many people hated it because it turned out to be the MC but in my opinion it was included in the good category starting from the visuals, OST, plots that weren't skipped etc. Quite surprised at this time to get a score of 7.01.
As I went through episode 5 the score was getting higher, I asked, "where did the haters go? They started to worship? Seriously? And now it has reached 7.71 ?"

I mean like.. wtf? Ar u kidding me guys?

should be atleast 8.30 or higher soon tho
Jun 11, 2023 11:00 PM
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I wish people give any story more chance to develop instead of dropping things and rating it low right away after watching first few episodes. I believe this anime deserve 8+ rating on MAL but so many people give it low rating because they dropped it after first two episodes
Jun 12, 2023 2:47 AM
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I wish people give any story more chance to develop instead of dropping things and rating it low right away after watching first few episodes. I believe this anime deserve 8+ rating on MAL but so many people give it low rating because they dropped it after first two episodes
Just wait for the second season score if the anime maintains its quality.
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Jun 12, 2023 4:00 AM
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Most people were understandably off put by the premise and MC's twisted fantasies, but thankfully this whole gag was dropped five minutes in the first episode.
Those who endured were rewarded big time, because Yamada is easily best girl this year so far.

Jun 12, 2023 5:56 AM
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Yeah manga readers knew what was coming. It's such sweet romcom after that first episode.
If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time.

Jun 12, 2023 9:30 AM

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Can't blame people too much tho, this season has some really good school romance contenders. After School Insomniacs and Skip and Loafer are also top tier, I can see someone with not a lot of time for anime dropping this show after the first episode in favor of the others
Nino is the objectively superior one, don't @ me
Jun 12, 2023 9:42 AM

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Worth a Thread!^^

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Jun 12, 2023 4:10 PM
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I just hope the score gets at least above an 8. I'm glad I stuck around because it's turning out to he one of the best this season
Jun 12, 2023 4:30 PM
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I was super off-put by the first episode and I love the series now:

I just found Ichikawa’s edgy-ness super cringy and I couldn’t figure out how romance and his edgy-ness was going to mix.. it sounded horrific.

I’m going to assume the 1’s come from people who watched the first 1-2 episodes and dropped it.
Jun 13, 2023 3:02 AM

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I'm actually the opposite, I love how twisted the mc was, now the show is a basic normie romcom you find anywhere, no personality or soul whatsoever
mc's fantasies were the best spice we had, now it's as bland as looking at clouds moving
Jun 13, 2023 3:13 AM

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Piromysl said:
Most people were understandably off put by the premise and MC's twisted fantasies, but thankfully this whole gag was dropped five minutes in the first episode.
Those who endured were rewarded big time, because Yamada is easily best girl this year so far.

Knew it. Trying to sell an anime with an interesting premise, only to quickly become generic is all too common.
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Jun 13, 2023 7:01 AM
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JaniSIr said:
Piromysl said:
Most people were understandably off put by the premise and MC's twisted fantasies, but thankfully this whole gag was dropped five minutes in the first episode.
Those who endured were rewarded big time, because Yamada is easily best girl this year so far.

Knew it. Trying to sell an anime with an interesting premise, only to quickly become generic is all too common.
It was well executed and had alot good shuttle writing. It was one of the best school romcom imo.
Jun 13, 2023 7:35 AM

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RMTWASHERE said:
JaniSIr said:

Knew it. Trying to sell an anime with an interesting premise, only to quickly become generic is all too common.
It was well executed and had alot good shuttle writing. It was one of the best school romcom imo.
But like why would I care about romcoms, I'm a drama junkie.
Well, I am technically reading a romcom right now, but disregard that.
Like it's about the protagonist turning into a cat, and somehow that one ends up committing to a
plot line, but this one with the weird creepy premise doesn't.
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Jun 13, 2023 1:42 PM
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I was definitely on the fence after the first episode, thinking I was most likely gonna drop it after a couple more episodes. But it just took a couple episodes to prove itself and blossom into something beautiful. If Ichikawa stayed the borderline psychopath that he was, then yeah, it would've been a drop. It's "low" score of 7.00-something would have been warranted by most. But he doesn't stay that way, because Yamada brings out the soft innocent side in him, and we get the warm and fuzzy show we have now.

Do we HAVE to love it from the start? No, even though most shows in general try to make their first episode as appealing as possible to hook in as much viewership as they can. But not every show is absolutely pristine from start to finish. Some start out rough, and smooth out later; and that is far better than having it the other way around. But you're right, this show didn't even start out rough, that first episode was almost necessary to allow for some contrast for our main character, and to show how grows throughout, opening up more and more because of Yamada.


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Jun 18, 2023 12:09 AM
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B1GK1NG said:
Rinkahai said:
During the first episode I didn't expect that many people hated it because it turned out to be the MC but in my opinion it was included in the good category starting from the visuals, OST, plots that weren't skipped etc. Quite surprised at this time to get a score of 7.01.
As I went through episode 5 the score was getting higher, I asked, "where did the haters go? They started to worship? Seriously? And now it has reached 7.71 ?"

I mean like.. wtf? Ar u kidding me guys?

should be atleast 8.30 or higher soon tho

we almost there 😊
Jun 18, 2023 4:24 AM
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B1GK1NG said:
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should be atleast 8.30 or higher soon tho

we almost there 😊

8.24/25 already we so close
Jun 19, 2023 2:39 AM

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To be honest, I hated like the entire first half, but it got progressively better, and after finishing the 12 episodes, I even want to read the manga. But that doesn't change how bad the first episodes were (imo). First half was like a 4/10 and second half was a 8/10, so that's a 6 overall. But I have high expectations for the manga
Jun 19, 2023 10:37 AM
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Nel999 said:
To be honest, I hated like the entire first half, but it got progressively better, and after finishing the 12 episodes, I even want to read the manga. But that doesn't change how bad the first episodes were (imo). First half was like a 4/10 and second half was a 8/10, so that's a 6 overall. But I have high expectations for the manga
so delusional giving this show 6/10 is a crime, this show is fairly rated it's better than horimiya but below oregairu
Jun 19, 2023 12:17 PM
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Pansnbskk said:
Nel999 said:
To be honest, I hated like the entire first half, but it got progressively better, and after finishing the 12 episodes, I even want to read the manga. But that doesn't change how bad the first episodes were (imo). First half was like a 4/10 and second half was a 8/10, so that's a 6 overall. But I have high expectations for the manga
so delusional giving this show 6/10 is a crime, this show is fairly rated it's better than horimiya but below oregairu
Sorry, dude, but, there is more "love" in one minute of Yamada calling Ichikawa at night to check if he is okay when he broke his arm than in the full first season of Oregairu. 
Also, Yamada is actually a good, goofy but loveable character when Oregairu try to have everyone being snarky all the time (which is actually what author do when they don't know how to write a character). 
To be fair, I only watched Season 1 of oregairu and the only "loveable" character was  Saika and  Komachi. 
In any case, yeah, the first three episodes of Yamada was not great, but, it got better when you realize she was not just an alien eating chocolate in the library but actually trying to get Ichikawa to like her (which is kinda funny considering she could probably go out with almost every guy of her school without even doing a single effort, but that's what make it cute). 
Jun 20, 2023 3:37 AM

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Pansnbskk said:
Nel999 said:
To be honest, I hated like the entire first half, but it got progressively better, and after finishing the 12 episodes, I even want to read the manga. But that doesn't change how bad the first episodes were (imo). First half was like a 4/10 and second half was a 8/10, so that's a 6 overall. But I have high expectations for the manga
so delusional giving this show 6/10 is a crime, this show is fairly rated it's better than horimiya but below oregairu
6 is not a bad rating, it's "fine". I just didn't like the first half because it was mostly sexual jokes and the MC following the FMC around, while inner monologuing. These monologues were insufferable, I was gonna drop the show at episode 4, but kept going just because of the high score this show has. The big improvement comes when the MC actually starts interacting with the FMC, but it took too long to get there.
Jun 20, 2023 4:58 AM

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Rukodaime91 said:
Pansnbskk said:
so delusional giving this show 6/10 is a crime, this show is fairly rated it's better than horimiya but below oregairu
Sorry, dude, but, there is more "love" in one minute of Yamada calling Ichikawa at night to check if he is okay when he broke his arm than in the full first season of Oregairu. 
Also, Yamada is actually a good, goofy but loveable character when Oregairu try to have everyone being snarky all the time (which is actually what author do when they don't know how to write a character). 
To be fair, I only watched Season 1 of oregairu and the only "loveable" character was  Saika and  Komachi. 
In any case, yeah, the first three episodes of Yamada was not great, but, it got better when you realize she was not just an alien eating chocolate in the library but actually trying to get Ichikawa to like her (which is kinda funny considering she could probably go out with almost every guy of her school without even doing a single effort, but that's what make it cute). 
Two completely different approaches to romantic comedies. The comparison is kinda silly. The snarky aspect that you didn't like is just a preference at this point.




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Jun 20, 2023 5:28 AM

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Rukodaime91 said:
Pansnbskk said:
so delusional giving this show 6/10 is a crime, this show is fairly rated it's better than horimiya but below oregairu
In any case, yeah, the first three episodes of Yamada was not great, but, it got better when you realize she was not just an alien eating chocolate in the library but actually trying to get Ichikawa to like her (which is kinda funny considering she could probably go out with almost every guy of her school without even doing a single effort, but that's what make it cute). 
A bit irrelevant to the topic but the first three episodes aren't really Yamada trying to get Kyou to like her, it's more like an account of how she got interested in him
After that we get three episodes of her testing the waters with him then the rest is full blown affection
Jun 20, 2023 6:39 AM
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Nel999 said:
Pansnbskk said:
so delusional giving this show 6/10 is a crime, this show is fairly rated it's better than horimiya but below oregairu
6 is not a bad rating, it's "fine". I just didn't like the first half because it was mostly sexual jokes and the MC following the FMC around, while inner monologuing. These monologues were insufferable, I was gonna drop the show at episode 4, but kept going just because of the high score this show has. The big improvement comes when the MC actually starts interacting with the FMC, but it took too long to get there.

You and I, we haven't seen the same show. The show I saw had a male MC which interacted with the FMC right from episode 1.
I know what you mean by him having some jarring inner monologues, but reducing and judging those early episodes solely on that does them a disservice.
Jun 20, 2023 6:52 AM

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Rinkahai said:
During the first episode I didn't expect that many people hated it because it turned out to be the MC but in my opinion it was included in the good category starting from the visuals, OST, plots that weren't skipped etc. Quite surprised at this time to get a score of 7.01.
As I went through episode 5 the score was getting higher, I asked, "where did the haters go? They started to worship? Seriously? And now it has reached 7.71 ?"

I mean like.. wtf? Ar u kidding me guys?
Are you here for the first time? Hype shows always get high ratings before the finale before either plummeting or flying into space after the last episode. It's just that a lot of people watch the show or rate it only after the finale, so what you see before that is mostly the rating of people who are actively watching the show as an ongoing.
Jun 20, 2023 4:19 PM

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Nel999 said:
6 is not a bad rating, it's "fine". I just didn't like the first half because it was mostly sexual jokes and the MC following the FMC around, while inner monologuing. These monologues were insufferable, I was gonna drop the show at episode 4, but kept going just because of the high score this show has. The big improvement comes when the MC actually starts interacting with the FMC, but it took too long to get there.

You and I, we haven't seen the same show. The show I saw had a male MC which interacted with the FMC right from episode 1.
I know what you mean by him having some jarring inner monologues, but reducing and judging those early episodes solely on that does them a disservice.
you are right, they interacted from episode 1, but that was not real interaction, it was just the MC stalking Yamada. That's how I see it. Anyway, it's just my opinion, I didn't like the first episodes at all, and they were so bad that I can't ignore them when rating the whole product. I still like how everything ended up though, and the second season will probably get a 7 or 8 from me, I can see it being much better since the relationship is already established.
Jun 20, 2023 5:21 PM
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Never trust someone who thinks they can judge an anime on the first episode(s)
Jun 21, 2023 2:31 AM

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Most of the people here have 3–4-episode rule. If they don't find it enjoyable within that period, they either paused watching it or dropped it. Then once they discovered that it's actually getting better, they come back. And some people actually stick with it, gave a lower score in first few episodes and enjoyed it as the story progresses.

Tbh, this wasn't on my PTW because I have no idea what this is about at first. Then I saw clips from YT and found it adorable then I gave it an 8 after binge watching it.
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Nel999 said:
Swiss_Bohemian said:

You and I, we haven't seen the same show. The show I saw had a male MC which interacted with the FMC right from episode 1.
I know what you mean by him having some jarring inner monologues, but reducing and judging those early episodes solely on that does them a disservice.
you are right, they interacted from episode 1, but that was not real interaction, it was just the MC stalking Yamada. That's how I see it. Anyway, it's just my opinion, I didn't like the first episodes at all, and they were so bad that I can't ignore them when rating the whole product. I still like how everything ended up though, and the second season will probably get a 7 or 8 from me, I can see it being much better since the relationship is already established.

"that was no real interaction, it was just him stalking her"? ... Okay, so let's see.

Episode 1: Yamada adresses Ichikawa in the library, unintelligible to him (she probably just wanted to say "don't tell it to the teacher!"). He gives her his cutter, she's grateful to that and gives him her empty bag of chips. Later, they both interact by pretending to be cats. They both interact again after the incident with his bike. She tells him he's funny, a high compliment from her.
Episode 2: Yamada interacts with Ichikawa for the water she's spilled in the library and compliments him for using a glass to drink from the tab. She gives him the nerunerune leftover to be on friendly terms with him. Again in the library, Yamada starts to interact with Ichikawa because she wants him to hand his fan over to him. Later, she adresses him when it comes to paint a poster for the cultural festival, and both interact when Yamada casually starts to Ichikawa about the make-up she should wear as a ghost.

I could go on and on, but you get my point. There is "real" interaction between the two right from the start and it gradually develops from short encounters to longer ones (ep. 4 with the bike ride stands out in particular for that). That's how I see it, and that's why I wasn't bothered by Ichikawa's inner monologue and heightened awareness of her. She started to to the same, but we don't get her pov, just some clues, which was one of the reasons why I liked the story right from the start.
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