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May 24, 2010 10:42 PM
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Oh, they have even the love line... sooooo sad...
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Jul 19, 2010 11:09 AM
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Sad episode :<. Jim killed his girl & didn't even know lol @_@
Jul 25, 2010 5:34 PM
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;_;

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Oct 22, 2010 11:19 AM
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Well that was ... cheerful.
Nov 3, 2010 2:06 PM
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='( I hope for he doesn't find out...
Feb 20, 2011 3:54 PM
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Zepwich said:
='( I hope for he doesn't find out...


Sometimes being oblivious is better, but it is still depressing that he will probably never know what he did...
Jul 1, 2011 7:03 PM
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It would be a depressed episode if he knew that he was the one that killed her.

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Apr 8, 2012 9:26 PM
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waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh T__T
Jul 9, 2012 5:29 PM
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DAFUQ?

I thought she was going to be the daughter of the guy piloting the ship or something. Definitely didn't see this coming. And talking cats too!? (well, they weren't actually talking, but they were communicating somehow).
Jul 16, 2012 1:09 AM

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I swear I would burst into tears if Jim found out. This was downright depressing, but great episode.
Dec 26, 2012 1:44 PM

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These super-assassins are a complete joke...
Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone
Jan 11, 2013 5:42 AM

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Well better luck with girls next time Jim. The bad guys are rather lame lately, no real chalenge.

Apr 25, 2013 8:29 AM

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I'm glad Jim didn't find out who was in the ship during the battle, that would've been kinda cliche.
Aug 7, 2013 2:17 PM

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So basically Jim just killed his own girl without even knowing. I dont know whether to laugh or cry... What the fuck, show! >.<
Also, TALKING CATS!!! THAT CAN FLY SPACE SHIPS!!! Not Ctarl Ctarl cats - REAL cats!

I loved it, but man what a messed up episode! I kinda wish they kept the girl alive for a little longer, maybe see a relationship blossoming and THEN having them meet on the battlefield... Oh well, they chose the less cliche way out by just killing her spontaneously and i can appreciate that.
Aug 18, 2013 4:02 AM

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Great that they decide to something different and didn't have the usual exchange at the end like all the other shows do.
Aug 19, 2013 8:30 PM
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You gotta feel bad for Jim he never even knew what he did.
Sep 6, 2013 12:06 PM
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I like how they handled this differently than in other anime.

Those assasassins are not very impressive so far.
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Apr 2, 2014 5:55 PM

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A little too telegraphed and too silly to have earned the mournful harmonica that played over the last battle. Cowboy Bebop this ain't.
May 18, 2014 4:41 PM

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This was so tragic... ;_____;
Even though it would have been more "cliche," I wish Jim found out somehow that it was Hanmyo in that ship. The fact he never finds out is even more tragic. .__.

Ugh, Hanmyo was so damn adorable, too. This is simultaneously the best and most depressing episode thus far. The "mournful harmonica" during the final battle and the melancholic piano after adds so much to the mood, IMO. And that flower floating out in space... *sigh*
Romantic tragedies eat at me too much.

I'd agree the Anten Seven haven't been very impressive thus far, except Leilong was very impressive.



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Aug 2, 2014 11:30 AM

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This surprising is a good episode. Probably because Jim's one of the few characters in this show that I can stand and it's focused on him and not on that jackass chicken pansy Gene. The ending is also really damn good. It would've been one thing for Jim to find out that he killed his girlfriend and found out that she was one of the bad guys but the fact that he never knows makes it way better, I actually don't see too many scenarios like that at least in something like this. Outlaw Star maybe a lame show but credit where credit is due, that was a well done episode
Jan 11, 2015 10:48 AM

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Oddly grim episode for Outlaw Star.
Mar 17, 2015 2:46 AM

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This episode has been on my mind, and I just had to come back and watch it. The end is still beautiful. Now, time to hunt down that track!
"Let Justice Be Done!"

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Fight again, fight again for justice!
Apr 11, 2015 7:34 AM

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holy shit. this episode. THIS EPISODE.

This warrants a raise.
Jul 7, 2015 8:46 AM

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nigga FUCK

DID JIM JUST MAKE THE BANG THAT SPIKE EVENTUALLY USED?
Sep 21, 2015 12:54 PM

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Man what an episode... definitely one of my favourites so far! It kinda felt like cowboy bebop with the harmonica slowly fading in during the final battle, loved it!
oh well... whatever happens, happens
Nov 3, 2015 8:41 PM
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dam that was pretty sad. He will never know he killed the girl he liked. I honestly thought they were going to go with the whole she knew all along and is evil,but glad they didint.
May 7, 2016 4:32 AM

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I only have one word to describe my reaction to this episode...
"It chooses one who uses the power of God created by man, one who is able to arrive at one truth!"
Jun 26, 2016 6:47 PM

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This episode just makes me dislike Gene more. Only by a lot.
Just need to find out how to quote this every time so I can dodge the stupid 30-character limit.
Jul 25, 2016 2:31 PM
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one of the best eps in the series, if not the best.

think this show has been consistently better when it tries to be serious as opposed to a more light hearted action show.

feel like more often than not, I see anime have the opposite problem where they tend to take themselves, and the premise in particular, too seriously.

this show needed a more serious approach to really fulfill the potential it had.
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The kitties... the girl.. they killed all three of them and never even knew it. :'(
I-I need to take a break for a minute...
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Jan 20, 2017 2:51 PM

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They killed Kenny!
Apr 18, 2017 3:35 PM

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Damn, this was dark.


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Aug 28, 2017 4:54 AM

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I had the infamous Angel Links episode....
Jan 28, 2018 12:06 AM

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Episode 19 is "Law and Lawlessness", with Dooes and Valeria. Thanks for the spoilers about next episode...
Feb 6, 2018 9:09 AM
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"Girls and Cats in Space"
AKA "Jim can't have nice things."
Jan 13, 2019 5:20 AM
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This episode just took the show from an 8 to a 9. Definitely one the best episodes so far and they avoided a cliché.
Mar 24, 2020 11:47 PM

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This episode reminded of early Gundam shows. Mainly, Zeta Gundam :\

I feel that they should have let Hanmyo communicated with Jim on her dying breath. This would have definitely traumatized Jim in the process and probably wouldn't have not moved on.

So, I guess I understand why they didn't do that. It's for the better really.

Ah well that is life. On to the next one!
May 27, 2020 1:12 PM

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Hmmm... this episode should have been more impactful. It was a tragic tale, but I think this should have been a 2-parter to build up the relationship between the two. Hanmyo only appeared in the last half of the episode basically. Why was she even piloting that ship against Gene? I felt that there was too much unexplained here.
Aug 31, 2020 10:56 AM

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Hanmyo reminds me of Cardcaptor for some reason, she just pure delight in her short introduction. I like how Jim gets his own focus episode, the poor guy is glue that sticks Outlaw Star together. I wish these two got at least 2 episodes together and I like the idea of the whole crew working together to beat/kill Hanmyo in the space ship fight.

Anyone else other than me wanted Hanmyo body dangling outside in space after the ship explosion, then Jim will realize what he done to the girl he loved? I know its bit dark, but I really wanted poor Jim to find out somehow. I wonder why he never tracked her whereabouts, just in case if she safe somewhere. I'm sure a genius hacker like Jim can go through security cameras to see what ship she entered last and when he does, he can find out she was one that attacked him.
Jun 1, 2022 1:36 PM

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Too bad it doesn't seem like Jim will get a happy ending, Hanmyo seems like a decent girl too. If only she wasn't an assassin.

The battle with Hanmyo shows how unimpressive Gene truly is. He can't win flying by the seat of his pants and has to rely mainly on his friends. I wish he had some more going for him as the main character.

Jim waiting alone was a bit sad. But, even now, I'm not all that attached to any of these characters. So I can't be as moved as I should be from stuff like this.

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Jul 15, 2022 12:29 AM
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Wish they give these high level assassins had more than one episode. The last one sucked but this one could have great. Built a relation with one of the main cast. Had the cast on the ropes in there fight and had interesting way of fighting.
Aug 7, 2022 1:38 PM
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Why is this listed as the episode 19 thread but everyone is talking about episode 20? I went to the episode 20 thread and there were spoilers for episode 21 everywhere. I'll just discuss episode 20 here like everyone else is I guess...

I really could not predict where this episode was going I'll give it that, the whole thing was setting up by constantly emphasising how Jim is the really responsible one and Jim tells Gene not to let his guard down on this planet, then it of course leads to him meeting that girl who happens to be one of those assassins from a few episodes back. So at this point I'm thinking the set up will be for her to catch Jim off guard and steal the leyline files that Fred Luo sent to Jim in the middle of the episode, but no it suddenly wrenched itself into a conclusion that honestly while sad was also really unsatisfying. Jim doesn't know he killed his date (he might find out later but still) so he and the rest of the crew learnt absolutely nothing this episode, it merely drives home points we already know.

We got another classic "Gene is a dick to Melfina for no real reason" moment again and I'm starting to hate the way I get the feeling that these moments are actually supposed to be setting them up as a couple, hopefully if that has to become a thing it gets explored with actual time and depth unlike most of the things in this episode, this probably should've been a two-parter, it feels like there was a lot that could have been explored but just wasn't.
Sep 2, 2022 5:07 PM
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DekuHero said:
Why is this listed as the episode 19 thread but everyone is talking about episode 20? I went to the episode 20 thread and there were spoilers for episode 21 everywhere. I'll just discuss episode 20 here like everyone else is I guess...


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This is due to an error in the way the show was aired on television. Episode 16 and 23 were never aired(they were later released as specials), but eventually made it onto the box set with all the episodes in the correct order. Unfortunately this isn't reflected on MAL.
Nov 2, 2022 12:34 PM

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Damn this was heartbreaking.
Jan 4, 2023 5:10 AM
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Still cannot believe that this Cowboy Bebop and Trigun aired at roughly the exact same time and shared so many similarities and exact same tone. The sad story twists that never get discovered,the off beat musical choices ,the small character quirks that all add up.
Mar 12, 2023 4:19 PM
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Major Zeta / 0080 Gundam vibes with tragic lovers unknowingly striking each other down. Feels very similar to the
pairing from Z Gundam, right down to the way their respective 'dates' are shot and structured to. Also the use of the lilies floating in space in the end reminds me of F91 - although in a very different tone to say the least.
The psychic cats in space combat is also rather reminiscent of Cordwainer Smith's short story 'The Game of Rat and Dragon' - or maybe just Cybuster's High Familiars.
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(Since MAL didn't listed the special episode together with the main episode like it was suppose, I am force to came back to this thread)

I feel bad for the girl and those cats. I also feel sad for James for losing his genuine love interest. 
Jul 14, 2023 2:49 PM

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haha neko loli and those felines were brutally murdered. this is what they get for trying to assassinate the outlaw crew.
Sep 7, 2023 12:44 AM
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Depressing episode, when Jim's balls finally drop he ends up killing her .... Dafug?! Poor James!

But also funny episode with James asking Gene for help, huge mistake Jim my boy, you should have already know not to ask him for help in the love department! C'mon Jim my boy this is Gene we're talking about .....
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Sep 29, 2023 8:08 PM

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FUCK....FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK THIS IS THE TYPE OF CHAPTER THAT HAVE AN OVER-THE-TOP BATTLE AND THEN SHOCK YOU IN THE MOST COLD WAY THAT IT CAN. 10/10 ONE OF THE BEST CHAPTERS THIS CHAPTER DEFINES PERFECTLY OUTLAW STAR NO COMPLAINS
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