kataneer said:
I don't know why you wrote all this because I won't read it anyway lol.
If you don't understand, I will repeat: the first episode of this show is similar to a standard western cartoon, but with some edgy moments (stories about rape, etc). That's all, and I don't care who produced this and for what purpose.
It's like Netflix's Carole & Tuesday, who took all generic Disney-esque tropes (pseudo-American world, two mary sues who want to attempt their dreams, English songs, etc) and tried to say that it is an anime because Studio Bones made it. Same as Hero Mask, Yasuke, Cannon Busters, or even Great Pretender.
I never said that all shows that are produced by American investors (like Crunchyroll, Amazon, Adult Swim, Funimation, Netflix, etc) are not anime, but some of them exactly aren't and fully oriented on the western audience.
i wrote it because you need to read it, learn it, and use it. Americans did NOT write this show. we didn't direct it or do ANY of the other project head jobs. i gave you examples of other shows that Americans helped fund, or entirely funded on their own. you don't comment on those shows because just like this one, they are NOT Western cartoons!
i don't know WHAT Western cartoons you're watching but: prostitutes, murder, kidnapping, rape, a girl auctioning off her own virginity, The Golden Age of Piracy approx. 1650-1740, drinking booze, sex, slavery... nigh on EVERYTHING IN THIS EPISODE DOES NOT HAPPEN! in Western cartoons because... we've got LAWS RULES AND REGULATIONS against that stuff! us AND Canada.
so saying this shows IS a Western cartoon is not only ignorant but idiotic! this show's first episode is NOTHING like a Western cartoon. nothing. not a thing. you're hanging your 'decision' based on what? exactly. give me screenshots, timecodes, minute by minute, second by second exemplars. either do that or you're just yet another rando from some other lando who THINKS they know what they're talking about.
i didn't watch Carole and Tuesday. i was entirely and utterly uninterested. so i won't comment one way or the other on it.
i tried Hero Mask, didn't like it, dropped it after a few episodes. made me think it was trying to be a 'cop hero' show spliced into a 'James Bond type of TV series'... like the old TV series 'The Saint' and adding 'super-human/super-natural/super science fiction powers' into the mix. from what i did watch of it, nod. yeah. i'd say that one was Westaboo... and less Weeaboo.
Yasuke, never heard of it, what's the full title?
Cannon Busters, another one i disliked. watched a few episodes and dropped it too. yeah, that one was Western, not just in the setting but in alot of elements. although the Cadillac that turned into a robot was very mecha. Tranformers, American. GoBots, American. ZOIDS... i'm on the fence with that one, i'd say 20/80% split between Western/anime, ROBOTECH/Macross Gundam, anime.
Great Pretender, i'd say that one was easily split 60/40% Western/anime. the 'Ocean's numbers' movies, 'Thomas Crowne Affair', the 'Borne' spy movies, 'The Italian Job', 'Human Target' TV series, GP really did draw aLOT from Western storytelling. but by using SUCH a Japanese main character the ENTIRE season is viewed not just from the 'international flavor' of the ensemble cast. but ALSO by the viewpoints of one Japanese hustler/con-man who is forced into a life of crime because of JAPANESE cultural reasons. and later on in the series more stuff happens to lead the entire story back upon itself in one giant ouroboros.
going back to the last sentence of your first paragraph, "and I don't care who produced this and for what purpose." if you don't care: don't worry about it, don't comment on it, and don't judge it for being aimed at a Western or Asian or Whatever viewership the show was intended for. if it was ONLY intended for the USA,CAN, EU etc. they wouldn't even be BROADCASTING it in Japan in October, or have recorded a Japanese Vocal track. it would have been just like 'The Last Airbender' and its sequel series 'The Legend of Korra'. produced and animated by Mir in South Korea exclusively for Nickelodeon to be shown in the USA/CAN. |