DO NOT discuss the source material beyond this episode. If you want to discuss future events or theories, please use separate threads.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Ugh, Anna in the show is hard to watch with her irrational behavior. I doubt she can get along with anyone at this point. Seeing Nene's past was more interesting though. |
 |
| I knew the ending of the episode wouldn't be happy but God..not only did the ed song cut to black, which I thought was a glitch, but now I gotta wait a week to find out if Anna killed her own Mom...she crazy and scary |
 |
| That ending scared the shit out of me I didn't expect that cut from out of the blue |
 |
| Absolute best episode of the season. They did Anna absolutely dirty there, i was already feeling bad for her before this episode but wow, i can't like Shingetsu any longer after that (i was just okay with her before, too). She did NOT speak up and kept up this facade not noticing how much this meant to Anna, i don't blame Anna one bit for being in shambles, holy shit though, that sudden interference in the ED, my god, HOLY SHITTTTT |
SmudyAug 9, 2019 1:44 PM
| So losing only takes away the mages right to participate then huh. Funny how Nene's younger sisters are that much taller than she is due to the magic lol. So powerful mages are also susceptible to illnesses huh. Guess the quest to gain powerful magic also has a side effect. Despite their young ages each of the girls have potent reasons for wanting to be mages. In the wake of Anna's doubts Hakamada's reveal of her true self was to be expected. Her true self as shown last ep was't one that would follow someone that she saw as weak. So in the end Anna's hate actually stemmed from a misunderstanding as back then it was actually Shingetsu who cast that spell. With her foundation cracked by this revelation im curious to see where she will go from here. Overall a calm ep that served to expand upon both Granbelm itself as well as the struggles that Kuon, Anna and Shingetsu struggle with. The revelation about the truth of Anna's past was quite interesting. |
| Signature removed. Please follow the signature rules, as defined in the Site & Forum Guidelines. |
| Anna is a crazy person lol. She needs help.I didn't like how they cut the ED song in the middle of it. It's one of the few I enjoy listening to in this season. Also was that Anna's mum bleeding on the bed? |
 |
| Time for revelations!!. It seems that Anna's destiny was to be a mage with little to no power who tried hard to be powerful, while Ernesta ended up being the blessed one (Or should I say cursed one considering the speech of Anna's mom?) Which probably caused her to be highly frustrated. I bet there's a little more to the story tho. At first I thought it was odd to see Anna's calm expression at the end of the episode, just to come here noticing I missed a post credits scene... HOLY SHIT, Anna went full with her Edge. Oh damn damn damn, Can't wait for next episode! Smudy said: Absolute best episode of the season. They did Ernesta absolutely dirty there, i was already feeling bad for her before this episode but wow, i can't like Shingetsu any longer after that (i was just okay with her before, too). She did NOT speak up and kept up this facade not noticing how much this meant to Ernesta, i don't blame Ernesta one bit for being in shambles, holy shit though, that sudden interference in the ED, my god, HOLY SHITTTTT Uhmm, Shingetsu and Ernesta are the same person, did you mean Anna by any chance? |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| After two straight Granbelm focused episodes, we’re getting back to the character drama and holy shit, it has really gone to the next level. Seriously this series is managing to have both these intense action packed Battle Royale episodes, and then these emotional roller coasters in between them, this is so slept on and I’m mad about it. |
| Watch Granbelm |
HereticHunter said: Time for revelations!!. It seems that Anna's destiny was to be a mage with little to no power who tried hard to be powerful, while Ernesta ended up being the blessed one (Or should I say cursed one considering the speech of Anna's mom?) Which probably caused her to be highly frustrated. I bet there's a little more to the story tho. At first I thought it was odd to see Anna's calm expression at the end of the episode, just to come here noticing I missed a post credits scene... HOLY SHIT, Anna went full with her Edge. Oh damn damn damn, Can't wait for next episode! Smudy said: Absolute best episode of the season. They did Ernesta absolutely dirty there, i was already feeling bad for her before this episode but wow, i can't like Shingetsu any longer after that (i was just okay with her before, too). She did NOT speak up and kept up this facade not noticing how much this meant to Ernesta, i don't blame Ernesta one bit for being in shambles, holy shit though, that sudden interference in the ED, my god, HOLY SHITTTTT Uhmm, Shingetsu and Ernesta are the same person, did you mean Anna by any chance? Yes, i meant her, i'm derping hard. |
| Before the last 5 minutes, I was thinking "god, Anna is fucking annoying" ; when she was taken down, I found it was very satisfying. Then I had a bit of pity for her, knowing the truth. And eventually I watched the ending and just concluded that she'd better die soon, 'cause she fucking annoys me lmao |
 |
| Its so weird seeing Hibiki (Yuki Aoi) being the evil one Maria (Hikasa Yoko) being the less evil one. Also seeing them on the same side for a time while Symphogear XV airs is interesting. You can clearly tell she was faking that smile at the end. I was so expecting her to pick that axe up and attack the two of them immediately after that smile. (Update) Oh god I just watched that end credit scene. Jesus she's completely lost it. I hope Mangetsu gets hurt by her and Shingetsu gets pissed. |
| Yuritopia FTW!!!!!!!!! BANZAI TO YURI !!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Anna is definitely the character I feel the most sympathy for, the end bit doesn't really change that, at least not yet. I kinda had the feeling this show was beating around the bush about fate and innate power, but this just laid it all bare. How do you confront your own limitations in a fucked up system, especially when your family is enabling you like that? This is great. |
syncrogazerAug 9, 2019 3:08 PM
| "The road to hell payed with good intentions" is perfectly describes this episode. Man this episode was a lot but does definitely answer somethings. It also continues provide good character work. Yeah, I was waiting for other shoe drop with Anna in the end. There was no way she gonna take all that and not snap. I get why they didn't but Shingetsu and her mother really should have told Anna the truth long before she entered Granbelm. Even if might have broken her heart she would have at least have time to heal and move on. Now she like wielding axe and almost murdered her foster sister and might have killed someone over her obsession. I still have wonder Suishou's angle in all of this. No way she just geocentric underling. |
| This episode helped keep my faith in the series. Yeah that Anna twist was well executed but also the rest of the episode felt good. Listening to our two protagonists talk about life and how they feel about themselves was really touching. Anime certainly feels more human with series like this & Bunny Senpai |
 |
| Just thought Anna was some insane bitch, but damn, this episode showed that life sucks for her. Maybe she deserves a bit better.....or so I thought until the fucking ending. Wtf? XD |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| This anime is basically just saying that hard work towards developing a skill means nothing and only innate talent matters. |
 |
| Ehhh I really did not like this ep, easily the worst yet (though it seems I'm in the small minority with this take?). That was a whole lot of stupid. Why on Earth did they wait so long to tell her? Them keeping both things a secret like that completely conflicts with their character motivations (certainly the mom's anyway). And I'm still lost on just what she was/is supposed to be so edgily mad about... And that final scene? Yeaah. Nah. The pacing also took quite a hit this episode I feel. So much jumping about from scene to scene without enough time to really deliver much with each one. 12 episodes is really tough for what they want to do here. |
| Signature removed. Please follow the signature rules, as defined in the Site & Forum Guidelines. |
| Felt for Anna, but I'm glad she finally accepted her fate and was able to reconcile with Ernesta. Speaking of Shingetsu, damn she is such a good girl and one of my favorite character this season! Such power and elegance! Mangetsu is alright though, can't wait for the next battle because this was a little dramatic. |
How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb --- Dr Strangelove  |
lihle808 said: Felt for Anna, but I'm glad she finally accepted her fate and was able to reconcile with Ernesta. Buddy you missed the post-credits scene lmao |
| Signature removed. Please follow the signature rules, as defined in the Site & Forum Guidelines. |
| Going into this episode, I definitely see myself questioning the same way that Mangetsu does: What's the purpose of all the fighting if that same entity desires ONLY ONE mage to have it all: the Witch. And with that, more reveals on Shingetsu and Anna's past. So it seems that Shingetsu is the blessed child and Anna's the cursed one, even though they're in the same family that is now in shackles. Suishou's role as a game-changer still has me up in arms. To Mangetsu, Granbelm is still like a game to her, not knowing what lies ahead. A life of no dreams, no ambitions, nothingness. To Anna though, it's like her entire life was a lie. Her own family history of distortion and powerless mage...everything was through Shingetsu. Oh the truth revealed in shame and regret, I really pity Anna at this point. Regardless, Anna won't go without a fight...and the ED cut proves it all, that was some LEGIT shit there. I thought that it's a broken video, but nope...the suspense IS JUST...WOW, WHAT A TWIST! Hoo boy, we're definitely in for the ride now! |
 |
| 好きだったらこそ心が軋む 好きだったらこそ執着する エルネスタを困らせたい 自分を嫌というほど意識させたい それはすべてをかけたストーキングという名のライフワーク the preview narration turns it into complete gag lmao |
 |
| Shades of Cross Ange in this episode. Finally we had an episode where I understood what was going on. I have a feeling after that brief respite Anna is going to get even more ax-crazy. |
NoviSun said: God I wish this show was at least 1% as good as Cross AngeShades of Cross Ange in this episode. Finally we had an episode where I understood what was going on. I have a feeling after that brief respite Anna is going to get even more ax-crazy. |
| Mangetsu being kind to Kuon is nice. Sick girl taking care of her cursed sister. Sad.. Glad to see that Nene-nee is ok. It seems she does not hold a grudge at all. Funny when she went to the high school classroom, people are looking. The large greeb magic stone in Anna's family.. I could be wrong, but it looks similar to the gem that Suishou holds in the OP. I suspect that this gem would be taken by Suishou from Anna at some point in the story. And lastly. Anna has gone crazy with possible murder of her mom. She now reminds me Dilandau from Escaflowne. >< |
| That post-credit scene tho 😬 |
| Sorry, due to licensing limitations, this signature is unavailable in your region. |
| So, Anna was nothing more than consumed by envy. Just as I expected. There is no help for her. |
 |
| Now the big question : who is the final boss ? Suishou : the more we learn about her the more I feel she was tagging along and playing servant just for the fun and is much stronger than anyone and is probably the one who cursed Kuon's sister. Mangetsu : a complete mystery, always more fighting just for the thrill of fighting regardless of the consequences for the others. Where does her stone come from ? |
| As much as I hate Anna, I do have sympathy for her. Even though she's been giving it her all to become a strong mage, the fact that she's weak as a mage must've felt like being hit by Truck-kun at speed. That, as well as Hakamada finally dropping the facade and owning Anna when she tried to slap her, definitely pushed her over the edge. The way she came at Shingetsu when she visited the household with an axe was scary, but she had to learn the truth about her lack of magical powers and how Shingetsu's own powers tricked Anna into believing that she could perform techniques that her mother and grandmother couldn't do before. I was surprised that she gave Shingetsu a kind smile, wishing her the best in her goal to become the witch. Then came the ED......hooo boy. The ED got cut by a black screen for a second or two and I thought for a second that my internet was acting up. Just as I thought of that, we see Anna's mother in her bed, bleeding heavily from her arm, most likely during a struggle with Anna, rendering her mother unconscious(hopefully). When Anna got her hands on the big magic stone, her grin was, no denying it, absolutely insane and messed up. The next episode is going to be filled with Anna losing her shit every few seconds, of I think it's safe to say that Shingetsu MUST defeat her and most likely will beat her. Whatever happens, I'm certainly looking forward to the next Granbelm fight. =D |
| Holy moly this is getting guuud gomennasai said: That post-credit scene tho 😬 LOL hard with your signature |
Marcos_AspiraAug 10, 2019 7:04 AM
 |
Joshua_Bell said: I hope that Anna's Mother is ok I hope she is not dead I feel really bad for Anna because she is being told that she is not good enough by her own Mother and even by Ernesta who keeps saying to Anna that she can't win against her no wonder she is so crazy now but I do hope that after they fight and Anna losess I hope they make up yeah, and it's bad for Anna's little sis as well if their mother died. things are getting good. Can't wait for next week! :) |
Piromysl said: So, Anna was nothing more than consumed by envy. Just as I expected. There is no help for her. There's way more than just envy. It's frustration that has been building up for a long time. Imagine being on a mage family that isn't that blessed by magic, then, add the pressure Anna must've been through while trying to dominate magic with no success, only to be taken away by a foreign girl that Anna's mom decided to adopt who also contributed on fooling her making her think that she finally succeeded. There's a bit more to be told, about why Shingetsu decided to abandon her family. |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| As i expected, Anna is just a helpless bitch. |
 |
| Yikes, that was a horrific post-credit scene (and a little throwback of sorts to SnK S3 Part 1 finale)! No wonder why she smiled like that and it felt so off-putting, jeez she's so bloody irrational it's legit scary. Did she really just kill her own mother in her sleep? There'll be no saving her anymore after this... Interesting revelation of the past between Ernesta and Anna though. Looks like she's sort of lived a life of lies and we finally get to see why Ernesta's been so hurtful and regretful at the same time. Being born into such a prestigious family and not being blessed (or cursed?) with innate abilities must be hard for Anna. Ernesta managing to pull off the trick that no one's been able to do is a big saying too, I wonder why. As @HereticHunter mentioned, I'm sure there's still a lot more to this and I'm really curious to know about it. On the other hand, Nene makes up with Mangetsu right away and a friendly visit to the white-haired mage's residence. Moreover, the blue-haired girl remains suspicious as ever. Still can't exactly make out where this is going but I'm looking forward to more! |
#Anime4Life be my Life Motto! #PrayForKyoAni  |
| Aoi Yuuki can sounnd really evil and scary, her Suisho is really good. Also felt really bad for Anna, and now she find out EVERYONE knew truth, but her. Nene's mom looked like Emilia in one scene (With shouldnt be surprising, since its same chara design as Re: Zero, but still...) |
| @Marcos_Aspira thanks :) AngryWeasel said: Huh, even after the after credit scene, I feel sorry for Anna. Her mother and Ernesta did an incredibly shitty thing. Keeping her in the grand magician delusion and at the same time constantly saying that her step-sister is better than her. Exactly my thoughts. At least Shingetsu has the excuse of actually feeling sorry for what she did, as seen in the previous episodes. But I guess it's too late for any apology after what happened. |
| Sorry, due to licensing limitations, this signature is unavailable in your region. |
| The thing is, Anna's mother was trying to save her from a hard life trying to be a mage without talent. If that's the case though, she shouldn't have adopted Ernesta in order to be the family's mage candidate. She should have just resolved to have the family exist without competing in GRANBELM and without a mage. She should have steered the entire family out of the mage world. I understand that she was trying to spare Anna, but of course she was also going to breed resentment from Anna, by bringing in Ernesta, even if her mother didn't think less of Anna because of her lack of power, there was little room for Anna to interpret Ernesta as anything other than a replacement for herself. Also where was the mother when Anna took on two "apprentices"? Where was the mother when Anna kicked one of those apprentices out of the house? Does the mother not see that the remaining apprentice is completely unhinged....just like her own daughter? |
| So, the truth was revealed. Ernesta did not betrayed Anna or anything. Anna just lacked magical power and was inferior. That's why Ernesta was chosen despite being adopted. Now, knowing that her grudge was misplaced, she redirected it into her mother. And judging how she was swinging that axe earlier... |
|
| I still can't fucking believe the 6 almost 5 score that this has. This show should be between 7.5 and 8.2 imo Mod should add the dementia tag to series |
anikevinAug 10, 2019 10:45 PM
| lol and i thought Anna would say: "Ernesta...just go ahead and DIE" but that didn't happened but instead the ED was cut-off and Anna went into despair crazy batshit mode! and whose blood is that!? did someone get murdered!? wow! "The Witch" this really has Madoka vibes! 5/5. |
 |
More topics from this board
Poll: » Granbelm Episode 13 Discussion ( 1 2 )Stark700 - Sep 26, 2019 |
88 |
by SlammyHammy
»»
Jan 30, 8:00 PM |
|
Poll: » Granbelm Episode 3 Discussion ( 1 2 )Stark700 - Jul 19, 2019 |
52 |
by RGreatDanton
»»
Jan 28, 11:24 AM |
|
Poll: » Granbelm Episode 2 Discussion ( 1 2 )Stark700 - Jul 12, 2019 |
76 |
by RGreatDanton
»»
Jan 28, 11:09 AM |
|
Poll: » Granbelm Episode 1 Discussion ( 1 2 3 )Stark700 - Jul 5, 2019 |
131 |
by RGreatDanton
»»
Jan 28, 10:57 AM |
|
» Beauty..... so undderated.........SakurakoMikage - May 5, 2023 |
1 |
by NerdyMemer
»»
May 6, 2023 2:55 AM |